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If you are an honest seller, I sincerely apologize.
I'm not sure how much you've looked around the marketplace, but there was a user, ThyDude, that had a low post count similar to yours and in one day posted multiple ads. He was looking to sell multiple technological items worth over $1,000. Some users sent him BTC for some of these goods. Shortly thereafter, 'someone' posted a thread that the user was sent to the hospital for a seizure. This occurred only a few days before I saw your ads.
Again, I am truly sorry if you are an honest seller, but the number of scams on here seems to be on the rise, so I hope you understand my skepticism.
Best of luck selling!
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I know, but I didn't want to create a separate thread for that. It was something that caught my eye, and I knew you were posting on this thread, so I thought I'd slip it in there.
My apologies.
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Looks pretty good to me. In my opinion, focusing too much on the specifics of the market will make you miss the big picture which is quite easy to grasp.
What does big picture look like?
1.) A growing economy, but not a substantial nor rapidly growing one
2.) BTC currently pegged to fiat exchange rate = profit mindset for most users. This is actually a good thing for Bitcoin in the short term as people will buy after every large sell-off, even panic sells. The psychological end of this is a motive for profit.
3.) An electrical cost that acts as a psychological base value figure.
#1 and #2 are the most important ones and they act upon each other. There are simply not enough avenues to spend/save/invest BTC yet that make it a viable or convenient alternative to fiat. Until this happens (most likely this will happen when there is some type of insurance backing BTC that will virtually eliminate fears of scamming/losing BTC) we cannot expect to maintain a high BTC value.
But, the motive for profit in people can be extremely strong. BTC will not collapse completely. There will always be supports at the very bottom, and those supports are very strong. There is a psychological effect from knowing that BTC was once valued at $30 and then seeing it valued at under $1...the motive to buy at that point is reinforced by past data that suggests it has potential to grow again exponentially.
I think everything is in perfect order in Bitcoin land. We have new users registering on the forum every day. Bitcoins just simply cant be expected to be worth $10 when there are not enough goods/services backing the $10 price tag. The electrical cost associated with Bitcoin generation in relation to difficulty will help maintain a base value.
Enjoy the ride down. Don't be scared of heights when there's a nice soft cushion at the bottom.
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Keep an eye on ultraimports.
Would you mind explaining why? ^ read my previous post. Edit: It's actually really unfortunate that I even have to point out users like ultraimports as being suspicious. If he is innocent, I am sorry for casting an aura of doubt. |
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Can we id anyone else who might be related by using the ip's that they used?
There is one other person, but I can't reveal that since there is no evidence that it belongs to this guy. Additionally, I suspect that there are more accounts. I saw many of the same patterns in other threads these guys posted in. If someone could look for those, that'd be great. Keep an eye on ultraimports. He doesn't match the pattern, but he might still be a regular scammer. It's hard to tell. Actually, he fits the pattern of what ThyDude did before 'someone' claimed he had a seizure and was taken to the hospital. Users with under 50 posts who decide to try to sell multiple items in a very short time frame make me very suspicious. |
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Can we id anyone else who might be related by using the ip's that they used?
There is one other person, but I can't reveal that since there is no evidence that it belongs to this guy. Additionally, I suspect that there are more accounts. I saw many of the same patterns in other threads these guys posted in. If someone could look for those, that'd be great. Keep an eye on ultraimports. |
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I noticed someone selling a TI-85 for $10...not 12 BTC. Just a thought.
I'm also suspicious about your limited post count and growing number of marketplace ads.
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And another +1 to xxxcoin Paid BTC up front for gems and was very patient as his parcel was being shipped across the border. Thanks!!  |
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Why would you buy this given the current state of the Bitcoin market/economy?
Actually, let me quote a friend, who I explained bitcoin lately: "The 21 Million cap is a great idea and I also like the fact that this is community-based and not some institution. But, why is there no way to actually use these in physical form for normal people?" This is physical bitcoin money, not (merely) some investment token. No. It is NOT money, for if it were, the maker would get his ass tossed in jail. It is a piece of property, like a baseball card, that you hope will be worth a lot or will trade for some other property. You're hoping that every Bitcoin you purchase will end up like a mickey mantle rookie card or that you can simply trade with all your other non-rookie cards. |
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A troll post complaining about trolling. How original!
Dude... |
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This thread deserves a bump.
Stop trolling yourself. Your post of that woman with the blue and white background makes me want to throw up. |
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This thread deserves a bump.
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Wise man say you may act however you choose. Wise man wish you the best of luck.
sigh, just as i thought; no conviction. you're no different than all the others. quit trolling. Wise man redirect you here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=34921.0Wise man advise you to relax. |
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Wise man say you may act however you choose. Wise man wish you the best of luck.
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Wise man say, "Only a fool buy investment on downtrend with no present indication of future uptrend." Wise man also say, "Fool buy 1 dollar for 1 and 1/5 dollar, but smart man sell 1 dollar for 1 and 1/5 dollar."
Wise man additionally say, "Fallacy is not made truth by multiplied propagation, nor is truth made fallacy because no one will believe it."
Wise man further say, "Idea is good, but better idea is couple BTC code with useful goods. A birthday card with BTC code is better than BTC code alone."
Wise man finally say, "Man who becomes outraged at expressed opinion will not be outraged if he does not identify with contrasting opinion."
since you're so "wise" douche, lets make a bet. i'll bet you 100 BTC to be held in escrow that the price of BTC in USD terms one year from now will be higher than it is today. Wise man say bet is inherently flawed. Wise man see that if he wins, he does not win much. Wise man see that if he loses, he loses much more. Wise man also doesn't want BTC value to plummet and instead wants BTC to succeed. Wise man thinks you create non-sequiturs from what wise man say. oh wise douche, let me rephrase. the bet to be 100 BTC OR $670 USD! Wise man say bet is still inherently flawed. The payout is more for one than the other. Besides, wise man doesn't bet. This why wise man profits. |
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Wise man say, "Only a fool buy investment on downtrend with no present indication of future uptrend." Wise man also say, "Fool buy 1 dollar for 1 and 1/5 dollar, but smart man sell 1 dollar for 1 and 1/5 dollar."
Wise man additionally say, "Fallacy is not made truth by multiplied propagation, nor is truth made fallacy because no one will believe it."
Wise man further say, "Idea is good, but better idea is couple BTC code with useful goods. A birthday card with BTC code is better than BTC code alone."
Wise man finally say, "Man who becomes outraged at expressed opinion will not be outraged if he does not identify with contrasting opinion."
since you're so "wise" douche, lets make a bet. i'll bet you 100 BTC to be held in escrow that the price of BTC in USD terms one year from now will be higher than it is today. Wise man say bet is inherently flawed. Wise man see that if he wins, he does not win much. Wise man see that if he loses, he loses much more. Wise man also doesn't want BTC value to plummet and instead wants BTC to succeed. Wise man thinks you create non-sequiturs from what wise man say. |
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These look awesome but...
Why would you buy this given the current state of the Bitcoin market/economy?
what state is that? btc coins have been low before, there is also nothing wrong with bitcoins being low. Bitcoins might have been priced way too high in the first place. QUestion for you ooooo so wise one, do you think cassius got this idea last night and made these this morning? This might be nice as an investment if there was a good indicator that your investment would give you any kind of return. I don't see good reason to believe this right now. and that is your opinion, which is not shared by a very very very large ammount of people, including those of us who have made great profits investing in bitcoins. How about spread some fud in the speculation channel and not in someones thread who is actually trying to do something good for the community and actually produced something unique. Heck even if BTC was dying, i would buy one of these to keep. Plus they are great for promoting bitcoins which could change the market arround but you dont want to hear about that do you. These would also be nice if I could take them and walk into a store and give them to a merchant to purchase goods. This just isn't possible unless you live around the corner from Meze Grill. My conclusion: This is novel, awesome looking, and way before it's time, but in this case being 'way before it's time' is not in the interest of the consumer. YOU OPINION, doesnt seem to matter to all these consumers in here. Look if you dont want one, dont buy one, I dont see why you had to come up with all this FUD and opinionated crap. Do you actually see any problem with the coin that has to do with the coin and not BTC? anything worth actually complaining about besides "OMG THIS IS SO F'N STUPID BTC IS ABOUT TO DIE!!!" If everyone had attitudes like yours, we might as well all give up, cause BTC wouldnt go anywhere. Like i said if you dont like it, dont buy one, if you want to complain bitcoin is dying, go do that in speculation, personally i think it is a great time to buy BTC and an even better time to buy and give out these coins. I dont think i would give these things out as promotional items if BTC was trading at $50 a coin. Great job cassius and ignore the fear spreading fud'rs. It really takes a special person to go into someones tread trying to sell something and then rather complain about the product itself, complain about the state of the BTC market. Wise man say, "Only a fool buy investment on downtrend with no present indication of future uptrend." Wise man also say, "Fool buy 1 dollar for 1 and 1/5 dollar, but smart man sell 1 dollar for 1 and 1/5 dollar." Wise man additionally say, "Fallacy is not made truth by multiplied propagation, nor is truth made fallacy because no one will believe it." Wise man further say, "Idea is good, but better idea is couple BTC code with useful goods. A birthday card with BTC code is better than BTC code alone." Wise man finally say, "Man who becomes outraged at expressed opinion will not be outraged if he does not identify with contrasting opinion." |
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haha never thought I'd hear about this stuff on the Bitcoin forum.
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change yourself, the universe will follow
Best reply in thread. The implications of this run deep. |
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