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421  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 20, 2020, 07:59:10 PM
422  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 20, 2020, 06:45:07 PM
This would be hilarious if it weren't so sad.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/binance-ceo-suggests-crypto-exchanges-are-safer-than-keeping-ones-keys
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“Many hardcore crypto [organizations] advocate storing your own keys. But the truth is, today most people are not able to secure a key even from themselves (losing it). A trusted centralized exchange is #SAFUer for most people. The numbers speak for themselves. Need to work on wallets.”

Hmm. CZ sez put your money in his trust. Cui Bono?

Yep, sure reads sort of self serving on his part.
423  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 20, 2020, 06:41:41 PM
yeah, Armageddon has about a 1% chance of happening, so don't fuck up your whole life and your ability to retire because you put way the fuck disproportionate preparation into that... like 20% or even 50% like some people seem to be inclined in those kinds of ways to prepare for holy shit not going to happen events - and I am NOT sure if that is just a means to talk themselves out of actually pulling the fuck you lever when they really should (but yeah, ultimately their discretion, and the above remain just factors to consider rather than trying to tell anyone what to do with their ultimate conclusions regarding what is important to them).

I don't really disagree with any of what you said, including the unquoted parts. But having seen the medical issues destroy people's finances more than once, in my personal list of things it's on my list of "it's comin' down the pike" rather than "small chance Armageddon scenario", so as you point out each person has that different list of factors they consider at various priorities.

I totally get that some might see the large numbers and say "fuck it" instead of saving now, hopefully few to none on here, but I just consider it a journey. If I end up there great, if not, well I tried and will continually evaluate my options with regard to whatever curve balls life is throwing at me or likely to throw at me at the time.
424  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Will 2020 be bearish as well? on: January 20, 2020, 03:20:57 PM
Dominance of btc may come at the expense of growth of alt-coins, but that doesn't mean alt-coins are going to do badly at all. I predict that they will rise with btc, even if the rise isn't as steep it will still be a good year.
425  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 20, 2020, 03:01:39 PM
If $5million is your goal, then you need
BTC price                                           BTC quantity

$5k - (anticipated lowest, currently) = 1,000 BTC
$8,600 - (today's price, while typing) =  581.4 BTC
$10k - (reasonable extreme bottom price in 2 years) = 500 BTC
$25k - (reasonable extreme bottom price in 5 years) =200 BTC
$100k - (reasonable extreme top price within 2 years) = 50 BTC
$250k - (reasonable extreme top price in 5 years) = 20 BTC

I personally believe that $2million is decently enough because that gives you $6,666 / mo of passive income.

Always good to see numbers like this. $5 mil is a good goal to have, and the passive income from that would put you in the wealthy status in the USA.

But of course as people age these goals need to be updated, I know a lot of folks here are younger but if you hit a medical emergency or some other such family emergency that requires you to dip into your capital you can be wiped out.

So personally I think JJG's $2 mil figure is good but I'd want a lot of padding to cover those possible (inevitable) times, therefore I'd also peg $5 mil as a decent benchmark for this. Though everyone would be different here I guess.
426  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 20, 2020, 02:53:11 PM
This would be hilarious if it weren't so sad.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/binance-ceo-suggests-crypto-exchanges-are-safer-than-keeping-ones-keys
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“Many hardcore crypto [organizations] advocate storing your own keys. But the truth is, today most people are not able to secure a key even from themselves (losing it). A trusted centralized exchange is #SAFUer for most people. The numbers speak for themselves. Need to work on wallets.”
427  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ħ [HODL] Version 5.0.0 was borked - urgent upgrade to version 6.0.0 on: January 20, 2020, 02:48:33 PM
In the wallet there are the categegories

locked accrued matured

I understand the first 2. What is the third one referring to?

Matured are coins that were locked, went through the interest accrual and have now finished the process. They are funds that have had interest applied through the hold period and can now be traded again.
428  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 16, 2020, 05:00:49 PM
I'm guessing someone probably posted this already but besides the obvious CSW pot stirring, I think it is interesting and a bit scary that exchanges continue to dominate holdings. Seems folks really don't get the importance or don't care that if you don't hold your private keys you don't hold your funds.
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Compiled by monitoring resource Glassnode, the statistics covering Bitcoin exchange balances show that as of Jan. 8, they controlled 2.12 million BTC — 11% of the supply.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/no-it-wasnt-craig-wright-bitfinex-moves-1b-in-bitcoin-for-48-cents
429  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 13, 2020, 02:10:39 PM
FFS, this guy has the luck of the devil, talk about abuse of the court system...
https://cointelegraph.com/news/us-judge-rules-that-craig-wright-wont-forfeit-bitcoin-in-kleiman-case
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The judge questioned the plausibility of Wright’s previous assertion that this courier would deliver the slice by January 2020. However, she did say that the court should indulge him the opportunity.
430  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 12, 2020, 06:36:38 PM
Oh noes the sky is falling!  Roll Eyes
https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-price-4k-by-april-one-big-reason-to-not-be-bullish-just-yet
431  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ħ [HODL] Version 5.0.0 was borked - urgent upgrade to version 6.0.0 on: January 11, 2020, 08:58:39 PM
Is there some retiring of coin going on? I noticed on the chain explorer the in circulation amount seems to have gone down (haven't checked in awhile though).
432  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 10, 2020, 07:12:11 PM
Friday night, observing $8,070

This is how OG HODLERS roll.....

LOL!  Cheesy

Man, I knew we had something in common - here´s how we Greeks roll!  Cool


We do it a little differn't round these har parts...
433  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How much should i trust crypto Youtuber? on: January 10, 2020, 04:44:54 AM
If you trust any youtuber for anything other than casual entertainment you are making a big mistake. Might as well just hand your money over to the first person you see on the street. 
434  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 09, 2020, 04:56:16 PM

The charts seem to think it is. It's a little concerning that the prospect of imminent destruction can only prop up the corn temporarily. I'm sure that says something about humanity but I'm going to actively avoid thinking about that. Go btc!
435  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 09, 2020, 03:20:41 PM
Discussion of crypto's quantum vulnerability (if nothing changes) seems to be heating up...
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We should seek and upgrade to a quantum-resistant crypto stack in blockchain implementations and all other systems that depend on asymmetric crypto (e.g., banks, governments, etc.) as soon as possible. Quantum supremacy is inevitable — it’s just a case of when.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/will-googles-quantum-supremacy-break-bitcoin-in-2020
436  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 09, 2020, 03:18:45 PM
I wonder which of those orange dots was Trump's guess. I did laugh at the guess that puts Iran in Hawaii or Greenland.
437  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: January 08, 2020, 08:57:14 PM
If BTC makes an extended bull run I'm sure ETH will follow. But it's going to take a decent period of investor confidence to drive it.
438  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 08, 2020, 08:55:03 PM
Anyway, very nice pair of earrings.

I can't quite put my finger on it but I'm suddenly thirsty.
439  Economy / Speculation / Re: Halving, who's closest with actual Nrs TAKE A CHANCE on the LIST !!! on: January 07, 2020, 08:49:28 PM
22551-22600      bkbirge
440  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 07, 2020, 08:41:08 PM
This move makes sense as I'm still waiting for a fiat transfer so I can do a beginning of the year bulk buy. I might turn it into a larger weekly DCA instead.
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