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421  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SLR] SolarCoin | PoW to PoS v. 2.0 | Solar Proof of Generation (§1 = 1MWh) on: September 30, 2015, 12:32:32 AM
Question:
What happens, when all available Spendable balances in all currently available (online) wallets go to Staking, and there are ~150-200 confirmations left before the Interest awards begin getting confirmed and coins released from Staking back to Spendable? With no Spendable left, who finds next block?

If all goes well, confirmations should eventually be brought down to a reasonable number. That should reduce the possibility of that happening quite significantly.
422  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SLR] SolarCoin | PoW to PoS v. 2.0 | Solar Proof of Generation (§1 = 1MWh) on: September 29, 2015, 06:58:05 PM
Those of you that had CPU issues, can you confirm any relief in 2.0.5?  (Not during startup or syncing, but while staking.)

-Steve


Huge improvement on CPU usage. I run the wallets on older PC's and they are both responsive now while staking. Smiley
423  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SLR] SolarCoin | PoW to PoS v. 2.0 | Solar Proof of Generation (§1 = 1MWh) on: September 29, 2015, 07:23:50 AM
Can someone clarify how staking really works and why I am getting weird numbers in the spendable tab?
For some reason I have 0.514 ''spendable'' slr even though my stake is a lot more than that.
Shouldn't I be able to spend the coins I already had before block 830000?
I'm worried that my wallet file got corrupted.. My total balance is fine , only the spendable is displaying 0.514 SLR even though there is no transaction for that amount. I have no idea why it's keeping those 0.514?
Is everything fine with my wallet or do I need to reload it from a old backup wallet.dat file?

How much in being "staked"? Staked coins are not available until the stake reward is confirmed. Currently it takes 510 confirms.


I sent you a PM with the numbers... Thx for the info!



Reply sent.
424  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SLR] SolarCoin | PoW to PoS v. 2.0 | Solar Proof of Generation (§1 = 1MWh) on: September 29, 2015, 07:07:27 AM
Can someone clarify how staking really works and why I am getting weird numbers in the spendable tab?
For some reason I have 0.514 ''spendable'' slr even though my stake is a lot more than that.
Shouldn't I be able to spend the coins I already had before block 830000?
I'm worried that my wallet file got corrupted.. My total balance is fine , only the spendable is displaying 0.514 SLR even though there is no transaction for that amount. I have no idea why it's keeping those 0.514?
Is everything fine with my wallet or do I need to reload it from a old backup wallet.dat file?

How much in being "staked"? Staked coins are not available until the stake reward is confirmed. Currently it takes 510 confirms.
425  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SLR] SolarCoin | PoW to PoS v. 2.0 | Solar Proof of Generation (§1 = 1MWh) on: September 28, 2015, 07:06:38 PM
I'm having trouble synchronizing one of my wallets. It's trying to download blocks beyond the current, 835297. This may be due to people running older wallets. It may be necessary to update the next wallet (2.04) to reject any connections below 2.04. This had to be done for Feathercoin if I remember correctly when they were switching to a centralized coin structure.

Hi corather,

You may need to remove blk0001.dat and txleveldb and re-sync using the "File->Reload Blockchain" feature.  2.0.4 is coming out within the hour, so you may want to wait for that.  2.0.4 will block connections from protocol version 70003.  The newest protocol version is 70004.

-Steve


I reinstalled 2.03 last night and got it running again. Just installed 2.04. So far so good. Smiley
426  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SLR] SolarCoin | PoW to PoS v. 2.0 | Solar Proof of Generation (§1 = 1MWh) on: September 28, 2015, 09:24:31 AM
I didn't like it. Wouldn't load at all. Reverted back to original .conf file.
427  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SLR] SolarCoin | PoW to PoS v. 2.0 | Solar Proof of Generation (§1 = 1MWh) on: September 28, 2015, 09:12:12 AM

Question 8:
With version 2.0.1 around, having been downloaded and available for installation, if anyone wants to get on the Lottery-Winning-Train, do they just install 2.0.1 and start staking millions of SLR? Which blockchain should they stick to for better results - the main 1.5 PoW blockchain, or the forked 2.0.3? With no blockchain explorer around, I bet the 2.0.1 version is the way to go if anyone wants to get into the billions of SLR within a day or two, without being noticed.

 Cool Edit: Any further code changes to PoST implementation MUST FIRST ensure 2.0.1 will not be allowed to stake on the blockchain.


I'm having trouble synchronizing one of my wallets. It's trying to download blocks beyond the current, 835297. This may be due to people running older wallets. It may be necessary to update the next wallet (2.04) to reject any connections below 2.04. This had to be done for Feathercoin if I remember correctly when they were switching to a centralized coin structure.

"It may be necessary to update the next wallet (2.04) to reject any connections below 2.04."
If there is a way to that, that will be great, this will solve (I guess) the concern in question 8.




It's quite possible and it's really only a couple of lines of code.

Will keep an eye on that for sure!

btw, one of the reasons I am still mostly on 1.5 is that I am expecting to test the process of the transition from 1.5 to 2.0.4 and the moment I get rejected from 1.5, or have no incentive at all to stay there even if I wanted to. Now replace "I" with "Anyone"...

Also I think I just found a solution to the sync problem as of now - get the 2.0.3 node list from here:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/slr/#!network
and replace with it the contents of the SolarCoin.conf file in the C:\Users\...\AppData\Roaming\SolarCoin folder, then restart 2.0.3. Synced it right away for me after several attempts I did with the same unsuccessful results you quoted.

I'm giving the .conf idea a try. I copy/pasted the original .conf file and then deleted the nodes from the original and pasted the list from the explorer.
428  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SLR] SolarCoin | PoW to PoS v. 2.0 | Solar Proof of Generation (§1 = 1MWh) on: September 28, 2015, 08:27:55 AM

Question 8:
With version 2.0.1 around, having been downloaded and available for installation, if anyone wants to get on the Lottery-Winning-Train, do they just install 2.0.1 and start staking millions of SLR? Which blockchain should they stick to for better results - the main 1.5 PoW blockchain, or the forked 2.0.3? With no blockchain explorer around, I bet the 2.0.1 version is the way to go if anyone wants to get into the billions of SLR within a day or two, without being noticed.

 Cool Edit: Any further code changes to PoST implementation MUST FIRST ensure 2.0.1 will not be allowed to stake on the blockchain.


I'm having trouble synchronizing one of my wallets. It's trying to download blocks beyond the current, 835297. This may be due to people running older wallets. It may be necessary to update the next wallet (2.04) to reject any connections below 2.04. This had to be done for Feathercoin if I remember correctly when they were switching to a centralized coin structure.

"It may be necessary to update the next wallet (2.04) to reject any connections below 2.04."
If there is a way to that, that will be great, this will solve (I guess) the concern in question 8.




It's quite possible and it's really only a couple of lines of code.
429  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SLR] SolarCoin | PoW to PoS v. 2.0 | Solar Proof of Generation (§1 = 1MWh) on: September 28, 2015, 08:16:52 AM
I'm having trouble synchronizing one of my wallets. It's trying to download blocks beyond the current, 835297. This may be due to people running older wallets. It may be necessary to update the next wallet (2.04) to reject any connections below 2.04. This had to be done for Feathercoin if I remember correctly when they were switching to a centralized coin structure.
430  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SLR] SolarCoin | PoW to PoS v. 2.0 | Solar Proof of Generation (§1 = 1MWh) on: September 28, 2015, 07:13:20 AM
You can also use the options menu. There's a reserve feature right in the main panel.
431  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SLR] SolarCoin | PoW to PoS v. 2.0 | Solar Proof of Generation (§1 = 1MWh) on: September 28, 2015, 07:11:18 AM
My 2.0.3 Windows wallet kept dumping the blockchain like everyone is stating, I had it staking and generated a 5 coin payout for 510 confirms. This is not listed in the unconfirmed reserve. My power shut off while staking so I reloaded the bootstrap and rescanned the wallet. I thought everything was synced up so I wanted to stop staking to test and see if I can transfer the 5 coins even though they are 500 confirms out.

So I loaded the Mac OS wallet fresh on a different computer and copied the address then pasted in the other computer and send 10,000 SLR. It has been about an hour and my 10,000 coins still haven't shown up. Glad I didn't send the other 60,000 since they would not release from staking. I will keep watching but I feel I am stuck now in limbo, can't get my coins to Bittrex and can't even transfer to other wallets.

My Windows wallet keeps popping up with Double the coin balance total but the addition is wrong from the listed transactions, I only have 70,000 coins not 130,000. This wallet will say it is synced and staking but no other coins were produced in 24 hours and it keeps dropping and reloading the block chain from 2500 blocks back.

I really like the PoST wallet and want PoST to succeed so I hope this info helps fix any problems. I have screen shots too.

EDIT: 10,000 Coins just showed up must be slow blocks so now to test and see if I can unstake my reward and send the rest...

How did it go?
I think it is due to the slow block rate.

Ver2.0.3
On the wallet balance column it seems that "Spendable" was zero. "Staking" has increased to "Original balance Total +5.71 coins" in the last two days. The wallet is stable. The "+5.71 coins" turned up in a transaction
I turned off my wallet also and restarted just to test. Now it is "staking" and before I restarted it was "In sync".

Now "Spendable" = "Original wallet balance"
"Staking" = Original wallet balance +5.71 coins

But "Total" = Spendable + staking

Just to confirm that this is normal wallet behaviour for staking?
It seems that the +5.71 coins will show up in another 500 blocks before they can be spent as the generated coins must mature.

I can't get my original 59,000+ coins to unstake. This will include my reward for the 5 coins I earned that are not confirmed yet. These DO NOT show as unconfirmed and were grabbed to stake with on the first time the wallet tried to stake. Initially it said Zero staked for 12 hours, then found a block reward and then lumped in the Reward with my second Transaction to stake with. Which was the 59,000+ coins. I posted earlier about the exact match in math of these 2 transactions and now my 59,000 won't release from staking still. I tried disable and enable then disable again... no luck.

Anyone know how to release the staked coins other than Disable Staking which doesn't work?

Turn off staking and wait 8 hours.

-Steve

Question 9:
Since we do not have control over the spendable vs staking balances, when all spendable amount goes to zero beyond my control, do I have to wait 8 hours before being able to send out ANY payment?

As with any staking wallet, any balance in staking cannot be spent until the stake has been confirmed. There is a way to limit how many coins you'd like to have available for staking at any given time through the console menu.
432  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SLR] SolarCoin | PoW to PoS v. 2.0 | Solar Proof of Generation (§1 = 1MWh) on: September 28, 2015, 05:34:34 AM
Question, Can you have the wallet open on 2 separate computers at the same time?

DO NOT open the same wallet on two different computers. It can corrupt the wallet. You can transfer some coins to a new wallet and then stake on two computers with two different wallets, but I'd wait until the blocks start happening more regularly to do so.

Good advice. Yes I agree with this. Corather, what's your opinion on the staking in ver2.0.3 from your experience. Sometimes my balance "total" is completely different depending on when I open and load my wallet, and I see blockchain flashbacks sometimes, (very different block counts). Just speed on block finding update?

Thanks
-lfloorwalker

POST is a little different from some of the coins I've staked. Block counts can be a little random at times because although it's supposed to be uniform across the network, sometimes people who you connect to are just like you, reloading the wallet at the same time so the consensus has to readjust accordingly. I've seen my arch wallet go in and out of sync several times before finally settling on the consensus.

The calculation total is different. Usually a staking wallet will shove the coins staked in the "staking" area and they won't release until your stake has confirmed. Depending on how you've added coins your stake will be a random amount and your unstaked coins will remain in the spendable column. It's possible for more coins in the spendable to begin staking also following a found block, and as confirmations occur it gets slowly released into the soendable column. Come to think of it, that's most likely why the first workable release is staking so slowly and blocks are long. Two reasons: 1st, not many people are staking so there's a smaller percentage of available stake possibilities and 2nd, many of us who are staking have wallets with long coin ages so the entire amount gets popped down into the staking column and we have to wait for our stake to confirm before finding another block. However there is that problem of both values showing up between spendable and staking and it appears to be doubling, it isn't. The software is just tossing your spendable back and continuing to wait for your "stake" to mature. We won't know how it's really going to react until we start seeing matured stakes imo.
433  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SLR] SolarCoin | PoW to PoS v. 2.0 | Solar Proof of Generation (§1 = 1MWh) on: September 28, 2015, 05:02:51 AM
Question, Can you have the wallet open on 2 separate computers at the same time?

DO NOT open the same wallet on two different computers. It can corrupt the wallet. You can transfer some coins to a new wallet and then stake on two computers with two different wallets, but I'd wait until the blocks start happening more regularly to do so.
434  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SLR] SolarCoin | PoW to PoS v. 2.0 | Solar Proof of Generation (§1 = 1MWh) on: September 27, 2015, 06:04:14 PM
Again i would like to express how disappointed I am that we cannot get a fully functional POST release.
How hard can it be to test things before releasing them?
I have to say i'm pretty pissed! My wallet won't stake anymore and I would like to know what's going on.

vipgelsi, look what happens when we rush things!
I don't want to cause drama here , that's probably the last thing I want to do.
Solarcoin is all about trust and I have got to say i'm slowly losing the trust that has been built up over the last two years.
I'm very very dissapointed



You're the only one. Things often need tweaks and adjustments before they work properly. Quit whining and have a little patience.
435  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SLR] SolarCoin | PoW to PoS v. 2.0 | Solar Proof of Generation (§1 = 1MWh) on: September 27, 2015, 04:55:27 PM
Has anyone else noticed upon restarting the client it doesn't always start staking right away.
Now my wallet says IN SYNC, EARNING STAKE TIME.
I assume I have to wait until the next block is found until it starts staking? or why does it say that. I would have thought I don't need to ear stake time since I have already been staking since a few hours

I think it would start making more sense to us if we could get to the 1 block per minute stage. When the blocks are taking two hours each, it's hard to get a full picture. I have a feeling it is using older coins in your wallet to stake first, not just the whole stack at once. Kind of like easing into it or something. I'm really not sure. Corather has a better sense (from experience) what staking tends to be like. Perhaps he will chime in.

Time will speed up as more 2.03 wallets come on-line.

Not sure what's going on. There are new blocks being found and it appears it's all on one chain. I haven't found a block since the first one, but I see more blocks being found as the days progress. The staking process appears to be functional, slow as it is.
436  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SLR] SolarCoin | PoW to PoS v. 2.0 | Solar Proof of Generation (§1 = 1MWh) on: September 26, 2015, 03:23:22 PM
Is there any chance that a weak sempron cpu can harm your chances of finding a block? So far I have only got .255 of a SLR after almost 24 hours of staking with a hefty amount of coins.

You can go days and sometimes weeks without finding a block. The more participants on the network, the greater the chances of anyone generating a block. It's really just a numbers game.
So the power of the CPU is completely irrelevant?

More or less. I ran the ARCH wallet on an Asus netbook with an Intel Atom n270 CPU, still found blocks. I found one block already with Solarcoin on the same netbook computer. Smiley But after nearly 24 hours and 33 blocks found, the network doesn't have enough participants yet to really get the ball rolling. I have to repeat though, sometimes it can take days to find a block. Other times you'll get a few in one day.
437  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SLR] SolarCoin | PoW to PoS v. 2.0 | Solar Proof of Generation (§1 = 1MWh) on: September 26, 2015, 03:18:12 PM
Is there any chance that a weak sempron cpu can harm your chances of finding a block? So far I have only got .255 of a SLR after almost 24 hours of staking with a hefty amount of coins.

You can go days and sometimes weeks without finding a block. The more participants on the network, the greater the chances of anyone generating a block. It's really just a numbers game.
438  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SLR] SolarCoin | PoW to PoS v. 2.0 | Solar Proof of Generation (§1 = 1MWh) on: September 26, 2015, 02:54:56 PM
Any way i could slow down the wallet so i still earn interest but less cpu usage?

This part could be fixed. It does seem a bit cpu hungry.
439  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SLR] SolarCoin | PoW to PoS v. 2.0 | Solar Proof of Generation (§1 = 1MWh) on: September 26, 2015, 02:52:48 PM
Everything is working just fine. Besides blocks being super slow. Myself and family and friends are going to stick with PoST.

My question is why does the staking go from 0% all the way up to 99% and then back down without earning interest.

Also i have about 5 earn interest transaction and about 9 that where not accepted Sad

That's how staking works. Those percentages are a representation of your chances of generating a block with your network weight taken into consideration. Though post is a little different. My experience with staking other coins shows this behavior as completely normal. Some will not be accepted, which is also normal.

It's counter intuitive. Often you'll notice that your wallet will display now as the time it will generate a block, which means your wallet is ready to generate one, but you still have to consider coin age, and whatever else post-staking takes into account while running through its algo.

This wallet staking behaves like every other staking coin I've worked with.
440  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SLR] SolarCoin | PoW to PoS v. 2.0 | Solar Proof of Generation (§1 = 1MWh) on: September 26, 2015, 01:36:37 AM
The cause of the problem in point 1. has not been named exactly.
What was pointed out as a cause did not match the results we saw, so that could not have been the cause. Reference to the POST document only raised more questions, I will now put them in one place and re-post. By expecting the answers first I don't think we are halting things. We are halting the rush to do 2, 3, 4 without having done 1.

I thought it was addressed. Post was working as intended, but the algo didn't fit well with Solarcoin, so it was modified with a hard cap. Anymore technical than that and my eyes will begin to cross.

I again restate things are being carefully watched and triple checking the logic now is a good idea.

A solution was introduced, yes (capping the interest rate), but the results we had could not have been achieved by any intended parameters of the algo. That's why some of the questions are trying to make it clear if the parameters were wrong, or the algo implementation was wrong, or the issue may be somewhere else. In any case, a solution without first figuring out the problem causing those results, is no solution at all.

I have a strong feeling that the mathematical error was caused through anomalies in the math due to the nature of switching from pow to pos. Few people were running the wallets and the software couldn't cope. It looked like a mathematical overflow error. I have some experience in programming, older machines, but the principles are the same and the same kind of errors occur when you overlook a detail like that.
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