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4201  Other / Archival / Re: Donations Towards A Car on: August 23, 2011, 01:56:15 AM
this kid is a douchbag donate to someone who actually needs it . like me !!

No offense, but I don't think I'd ever donate to someone whose username is Dub0matic.  It'd probably go to weed or 24 inch rims.
lol you a funny guy. but actually it has to do with music. i dont do drugs or 24" ghetto cruisers

Haha, nobody can listen to dub without weed or 24" ghetto cruisers  Grin
4202  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Seriously guys, why? on: August 23, 2011, 01:51:46 AM
In my opinion, aside from it being incredibly obvious that all these alternative cryptocurrencies are made with the sole intention of making their creators rich (jealous of Satoshi much?), I think you guys should stick with one digital cryptocurrency, max.  Given its relatively short life-span and the number of unresolved problems associated with it, we can't even call Bitcoin a success yet, although I'm sure those who have profited significantly would be quick to call Bitcoin a success.  At least, it's not a success when compared to fiat currency which has its security and economy in tact.

Sometimes I wonder how often the members of this community realize how much they marginalize their selves.  Everyone's clients/miners/exchanges are ridiculously difficult to use for the average person, and if these issues still exist with the Google of digital cryptocurrencies (i.e. Bitcoin), how do you expect these other silly currencies with dumb names to work (town coin?  GTFO)?

I think all these cryptocurrencies give the Bitcoin community a bad name.  I think it perpetuates the 'geekiness' of Bitcoin -- imagine the average joe coming on here and then reading about namecoin, solid coin, IOcoin, selfish coin, nerd coin, haven't-gotten-laid-since-2009-coin...all these currencies give the impression we're all just a bunch of greedy fucks with no long-term vision of communal success.  If people put half as much time into stimulating the Bitcoin economy as they did devilishly programming their own cryptocurrency code, maybe at least one of these currencies would have a shot (again, i.e. Bitcoin).

Quit marginalizing the community.  Bitcoin is the only one that has a shot at mainstream popularity, so quit marginalizing the community with all this nerd crap like alternative cryptocurrencies, the word "troll" (Jesus Christ I hate when people say troll, and grandma does too), ridiculous clients and miners, etc.  People like simplicity. This complexity isn't cool.  It's chilly.  And chilly ain't never been cool.

You're making the very wrong assumption that people actually give a shit about Bitcoin or crypto-currency in the first place. A very large majority of the people involved in BTC, IXC, IOC, NMC and SC, like myself are here for the profit and nothing more. I will continue to hit every "Crypto- Currency of the Week" coin full force at low difficulty and then sell it like crack to idiots that buy it at Double C's ever adapting exchange!!!!

Looking forward to the next one!

BTC was doomed before it launched, just like any of the crypto-currencies it suffers from NEVER being able to have instant transactions.

Without instant transactions BTC will never become mainstream. It may very well exist as it does now to be a favorite amongst the Drug Dealers, Con Artist and "Geeks". But it a'int ever going to see use by Johnny Q. Public.

Peace,

Well, to be honest, what you said isn't at all far from what I said.  But, I have more hope for mainstream adoption of Bitcoin.  Besides, the instant transaction issue is really only a concern if people are interested in keeping the highest level of anonymity.  I actually don't really get why people think it's necessary  (or even that much better) to have anonymous transactions in all cases.  

All a merchant needs is to link a Bitcoin address to a real life address or a name.  For example, if you order something online, you must put in a shipping address, and this address is linked to a name.  If people keep generating new addresses, then a high level of anonymity can still be retained in general (i.e. it would be hard to link their name to all of their transactions, but specific transactions could be traced back to the person).  Then, a merchant won't have to worry about waiting for 6 confirmations.  They can just go after the guy if the transaction doesn't go through.  The confirmations will only be necessary in larger transactions where waiting an hour simply isn't a big issue (e.g. buying a car, a house, paying rent, depositing or withdrawing from exchanges, etc.).  

Actually, I think we both agree in our belief that the majority of Bitcoin users hope to get rich quick.  But, I simply wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt.  Besides, I bet that for most of them, they spend hours and hours watching the charts or looking at Mt. Gox live only to make $10-$15 a day in trades when they could be out doing real work making a whole lot more money.  Hell, most of them would make far more money working at McDonald's part time.  So, in a way, I'm also trying to point out that they could probably earn a LOT more proportionally long-term if they weren't so focused on the short term.  The real winners in Bitcoin are those who actually make a large business out of it (e.g. Mt. Gox, TradeHill, etc.).  There are solutions to Bitcoin's problems and they aren't that complicated.
4203  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: My $200 Money Pak your BTC on: August 23, 2011, 01:35:24 AM
Why is it that virtually every currency exchange request or video card sell ad I see is from a person with under 50 posts?
4204  Other / Archival / Re: Donations Towards A Car on: August 23, 2011, 01:24:30 AM
this kid is a douchbag donate to someone who actually needs it . like me !!

No offense, but I don't think I'd ever donate to someone whose username is Dub0matic.  It'd probably go to weed or 24 inch rims.
4205  Economy / Gambling / Re: Great ponzi games you are missing out on on: August 23, 2011, 12:30:26 AM
In my opinion, this one is best current running.

http://bitcoinduit.com/game/viewRound.php?id=MaxJackpot

15% ROI can be better than 40% ROI in a jackpot game.  Less risk over time.
4206  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Gold Bars, Silver Bars, Gold Coins, 1g Silver BitCoins on: August 22, 2011, 07:39:35 PM
updated this moment:


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GOLD BARS 1g@ 0BTC 5g@ 0 BTC  #bitcoin #BTCcommodities [http://wp.me/P1C0FA-e]
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1g and 5g gold at 0BTC?  What?  Can I quote you on this and take em all?
4207  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Today is my BIRTHDAY and you are invited! on: August 22, 2011, 07:35:14 PM
So now there is no longer any difference between a mental and physical problem. This is insanity. Or you're just a troll who likes to use big words to confuse people.

I work in an adult inpatient psychiatric unit.  I didn't say there is no difference.  I said it is a false dichotomy and that the two are inherently linked.  One cannot be explained without an explanation of the other.
4208  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Seriously guys, why? on: August 22, 2011, 07:20:01 PM
In theory, bartering is the best option.  

lolwut

Bartering is both universally and individually ethical, is universally and individually fair, and it emphasizes the value of the process of exchange over the value of the products.  Additionally, not every person understands the Bitcoin client/miner/exchange, and not every person understands the way banks, money, interest, fees, etc. work, but ANY idiot can place a subjective value on something and know whether or not they think they got a fair deal in a trade.
4209  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Seriously guys, why? on: August 22, 2011, 07:17:14 PM
This like complaining that because people have free speech they shouldn't curse all the time. Let them do whatever they want, whatever currencies offer real alternatives will naturally be used, and the ones that don't will get oversold. Not sure what the big deal is or why anyone would care.

Crypto-currency speculation is beautiful. It makes Bitcoin and Namecoin more legitimate.

Also, do you ever wonder if some random miner from 2009 with 400k Bitcoin is ever going to suddenly start selling it? I do. In fact, I wonder if it is happening now, for example. I say let these currencies do their thing, if any one of them survives, then the early adopters will be more widespread than the early days of Bitcoin itself at the very least.

Well, like I said, it was 'my opinion,' and it was opinion suggesting that, like in your example, it would be in the community's best interest not to "curse" so-to-speak.  And you're exactly right, I'm not sure why anyone would care.....at all.

I think it makes Bitcoin less legitimate.  Namecoin makes Bitcoin less legitimate, and it will always be an underground thing (if it makes you money, great, just don't think it'll catch on because there's no way in hell that it will).

Honestly, I wonder why some random miner from 2009 with 400k Bitcoin HASN'T sold everything.  I think he's a fantastically huge idiot if he hasn't done so already.  Seriously...being an early adopter is like finding a million dollars superglued to the sidewalk (gotta do a little thinking to get it off the sidewalk without destroying it, but you're a moron to let it sit there without doing anything about it).

4210  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Seriously guys, why? on: August 22, 2011, 07:05:57 PM
Also, if you really think any of these currencies would work better in theory AND could be accepted by the mainstream population, I would love to know why.  But then, of course, if it's solely about theory, I would simply try to one-up you by suggesting that in theory, the lack of any currency is the best option.  In theory, bartering is the best option. 
4211  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Seriously guys, why? on: August 22, 2011, 06:53:00 PM
In my opinion, aside from it being incredibly obvious that all these alternative cryptocurrencies are made with the sole intention of making their creators rich (jealous of Satoshi much?), I think you guys should stick with one digital cryptocurrency, max.  Given its relatively short life-span and the number of unresolved problems associated with it, we can't even call Bitcoin a success yet, although I'm sure those who have profited significantly would be quick to call Bitcoin a success.  At least, it's not a success when compared to fiat currency which has its security and economy in tact.

Sometimes I wonder how often the members of this community realize how much they marginalize their selves.  Everyone's clients/miners/exchanges are ridiculously difficult to use for the average person, and if these issues still exist with the Google of digital cryptocurrencies (i.e. Bitcoin), how do you expect these other silly currencies with dumb names to work (town coin?  GTFO)?

I think all these cryptocurrencies give the Bitcoin community a bad name.  I think it perpetuates the 'geekiness' of Bitcoin -- imagine the average joe coming on here and then reading about namecoin, solid coin, IOcoin, selfish coin, nerd coin, haven't-gotten-laid-since-2009-coin...all these currencies give the impression we're all just a bunch of greedy fucks with no long-term vision of communal success.  If people put half as much time into stimulating the Bitcoin economy as they did devilishly programming their own cryptocurrency code, maybe at least one of these currencies would have a shot (again, i.e. Bitcoin).

Quit marginalizing the community.  Bitcoin is the only one that has a shot at mainstream popularity, so quit marginalizing the community with all this nerd crap like alternative cryptocurrencies, the word "troll" (Jesus Christ I hate when people say troll, and grandma does too), ridiculous clients and miners, etc.  People like simplicity. This complexity isn't cool.  It's chilly.  And chilly ain't never been cool.
4212  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: selling 10 solidcoins for 0.1 btc on: August 22, 2011, 06:37:05 PM
I think you should stick with 1 digital currency max.  And even that's a stretch given how ridiculously difficult everyone's clients/exchanges/miners are to use for the average citizen.  I really wonder sometimes how often the members of this forum realize how much they marginalize their selves.
4213  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Today is my BIRTHDAY and you are invited! on: August 22, 2011, 02:09:30 AM
If you for instance go on statin drugs to lower cholesterol it will lead to reduced testosterone which causes ED and depression!

There are all kinds of plastics & soy products & pthlates in the food (and water) supplies of Western countries which cause the feminization of men.

ED is a physical problem!!!!! So is depression to a lesser extent.

Physical vs. Mental problem is a false dichotomy.  In the example you gave, your (mental) choice to go on specific drug can lead to ED and depression (which obviously both lead to certain mental and physical states).  Mental and physical problems are linked inseparably.  Nature vs. Nurture (or genes vs. environment) is another example of a false dichotomy.
4214  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Make me laugh for a bitcent on: August 21, 2011, 09:03:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNZczIgVXjg

A must see.
4215  Other / Archival / Re: Donations Towards A Car on: August 21, 2011, 08:20:06 PM
It's a nice idea.  My questions, however, are simple.

1.)  How do we know you don't have a car?
2.)  How do we know you can't afford a car?
3.)  How do we know you aren't just doing this as a way to earn extra income?  (e.g. a few donations here and there give me the equivalent of x extra m/hash! sweet!)
4.)  How do we know you're not just lazy and aren't working?
5.)  What does the Bitcoin community get in return besides good karma for giving you a handout?
6.)  There are a bunch of others but these provide the gist of what I'm getting at.

I'd like to take a trip around the world using only BTC, so could someone donate to me too?  I'd like to pay off my student loans (which currently sum to over $70,000) with BTC, and I'd like the community to help me out.

Not that I don't mind giving.  I think it's great that people are willing to donate, whether it's for the Bitcoin cause or simply because when others ask, they are givers.

I wish you the best of luck, but why do you DESERVE it?

1.) Give me a way to prove this, and I will. Sorry, I really don't know how to prove this at the moment, and I do understand the concern.
2.) Same answer as question 1.
3.) Same answer as questions 1 & 2.
4.) Same answer as questions 1, 2 & 3.
5.) Just the fact that that Bitcoins had been used in the purchase of a car. Could I offer more?
6.) I understand. Well, when and if I raise enough Bitcoins to get a car, I will prove that I used them to buy a car.

Thanks for asking, and let me know if you find a way for me to prove those to you, and the rest of this community.

EDIT: I completely missed responding to you asking why I deserve it. Sorry about that. Well, I'm not going to say I deserve it any more than anybody else who needs a car, I just though this would be my way of achieving my goal of acquiring one. For, if I don't get a car though this, rest assured that I will be without a car for several years to come.

All things considered, those are really the best answers I could think of anyway.  To add to question 5, I think it'd give a good rep for the Bitcoin community in the sense that it would show that the free-market can be very considerate.
4216  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: gamble on: August 21, 2011, 07:15:28 PM
I was wondering when this type of site would come out.  I just took a (very) brief look at the layout.  I assume you're taking the Vegas odds and replicating them here?
4217  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Pussy Traders at TradeHill on: August 21, 2011, 06:47:58 PM
Misleading thread title.   Angry

I thought this was an announcement of a new service for pimps.

Haha
4218  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Pussy Traders at TradeHill on: August 21, 2011, 08:10:15 AM
I say fuck all traders/speculators, so, fuck you OP... pussy

Bitcoin would be better without you and valued at $.80

Godspeed

You read this whole thread and that was the best insult you could come up with?

Geez.  That 'play ball' part was more accurate than I originally thought.

$.80?  Yeah I'm sure that would really work out well for mining.  Once you get sub electricity-cost BTC values with the current number of users, you're looking at market collapse (or, at least the most ridiculous market volatility you may ever see as people buy literally 10's or 100's of thousands of BTC and sell off minutes/hours later).  $.80 worked earlier when you could earn multiple BTC in a week and had a realistic chance of solving a block solo in a small time frame.  Try it now and see what happens.  I dare you.

It was not an insult, it was a fact!

If Bitcoin was valued at $.80 maybe people would actually spend them buying things and ot only trade them for $ and/or hoard.

Yeah, most miners could just give up because they are in no way better than you, speculators.

I still don't understand what was it that a big part of them we're doing in folding or SETI when there was no money to be made there... but now, all they see is money on their GPU's.

I'm secretelly hoping that GPU mining will become non-profitable and 90% of miners disappears not to be ssen anymore.

I bet Satoshi abandonned the project not because he thought it didn't needed him anymore, but out of embarassment of what Bitcoin started to be.

If you need a wall of text to understand what i trully meant, you are not a pussy, you are a donkey!

It's not a fact it was your opinion.

Speculators are risk-takers.  So, I'm a risk-taking pussy.  Nice one, smart guy.  Consistently trading and selling minimizes risk.  This can be smart, but its not risky.

If Bitcoin was valued at $.80, you'd have a far fewer merchants to buy anything from.  Increased volatility at this price leads to increased risk on behalf of merchants.

No idea about your SETI comment

Again, don't know, don't care.  But, miners are incredibly good for Bitcoin.  The more miners there are, the more likely it is that the value of Bitcoin increases and/or stabilizes.  More miners = less proportional BTC payout for solved blocks = more time required to gain enough BTC to sell.  Basically, more miners translates into a communal investment.

Satoshi is rich and has no need for involvement.  His rapid financial success was built into Bitcoin's design, and was probably the main reason he actually followed through on its creation.

I don't need a wall of text confusing your opinion for fact.  "Pussy traders" is an opinion, not a fact.  This should have been obvious, and it also should have been obvious that this opinion was referencing a very small time frame (i.e. the period of time during which the price at Mt. Gox shot up 50 cents). 
4219  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Pussy Traders at TradeHill on: August 21, 2011, 07:55:40 AM
I think just for this complete ass clown teenager troll, we should all do a massive sell off BTC dump on tradehill Tongue

I should redirect you to my thread on the word 'troll.'  My thread, my emotive reaction -- deal with it.  If you'd care to release your emotions on the exchange instead, by all means, I would love for you to do so.  I'd love to buy your coins.
4220  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Pussy Traders at TradeHill on: August 21, 2011, 02:06:01 AM
This is why Mt. Gox *is* practically the bitcoin exchange market.

It's the only way to get money in and out in a timely fashion. Other markets are just experiments and curiosities.
The price can change drastically in 30-60 minutes. A trade shouldn't take that long (or even longer)

Yes, I agree.  But TradeHill has things going for it that Mt. Gox doesn't; namely the extreme level of customer service, accountability (they put their faces out constantly), and the fact they haven't been HACKED.  Nonetheless, I'm extremely excited about the new feature (forgot name atm) that will allow transfer of funds and BTC directly between TradeHill and Mt. Gox.  Party time.
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