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441  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Auction] Encyclopedia of physical bitcoins and crypto-currencies revised on: December 29, 2019, 12:01:59 AM
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442  Local / Off-topic (Hrvatski) / Re: Politika u Hrvatskoj on: December 28, 2019, 07:53:14 PM

Ljudi koji rade u državnim službama ne bi trebali imati pravo glasa.

Također, +1 na ovo...


To je nemoguće provesti.
Kako utvrditi tko plaća a tko ne plaća porez u Hrvatskoj?
Većina iseljenika se nikad nije odjavila sa svojih adresa.
Glasačka mjesta u inozemstvu postoje ne samo radi iseljenika nego i državljana koji na putu kako bi mogli iskoristiti glasačko pravo.
E, sad, ti utvrdi tko je na putu a tko iseljenik.

Mislim da porezna vrlo dobro zna tko plaća porez u Hrvatskoj a tko ne Wink

Oduzimati državljanstvo ljudima koji nisu plaćali porez 3 mjeseca?
Ne znam kako bi to funkcioniralo jer svi državljani imaju pravo glasa.
443  Local / Off-topic (Hrvatski) / Re: Politika u Hrvatskoj on: December 28, 2019, 06:45:05 PM
+1 i na ovo, kao i na ukidanje prava glasa svima koji ne plaćaju porez u Hrvatskoj.

S ovim se apsolutno slažem. To bi trebao biti prvi kriterij, koji k... ima pravo glasa netko tko ne plaća porez u toj državi? Tek nakon toga možemo pričati i ostalim stvarima.

To je nemoguće provesti.
Kako utvrditi tko plaća a tko ne plaća porez u Hrvatskoj?
Većina iseljenika se nikad nije odjavila sa svojih adresa.
Glasačka mjesta u inozemstvu postoje ne samo radi iseljenika nego i državljana koji su na putu kako bi mogli iskoristiti glasačko pravo.
E, sad, ti utvrdi tko je na putu a tko iseljenik.
444  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Communist Croatian government on: December 28, 2019, 06:43:24 PM
jes because communist china, boosted production and global trade, and communists eastern european labour is powering the broken western countries till today.

While China was communist it's GDP per capita was 900$.
When they embraced the free market, their GDP has started doubling every 5 years.
In the last 20ish years of capitalism their GDP grew from 900 to 9000$ per capita.

It's individuals forming companies that propelled it's growth.
While the state owned the production they were 10 times poorer (900$/year).

americans definately don't embrace free market, they sanction nord stream 2, gas pipline

thats not true, actually, china is capable of growing to quickly because of communism

lol
all the companies in China are private

If that's communism, USA is communist along with all of Europe
445  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Caribbean Pirates had a Better System of Government on: December 28, 2019, 03:55:14 PM
I'm pretty sure ISIS had a goverment.

im definetly sure they are just a rebel army without politicians voted in. without actual courts, without actual laws
remember the final S in ISIS = syria
ISIS is not the syrian government. never has been. its just a rebel group that just has "state" in the title, but doesnt have the government power to actually be a 'state' governer

the try to gain power using violence but that does not mean they get power

But they did have provinces and leaders
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant#Territorial_control_and_claims
446  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Communist Croatian government on: December 28, 2019, 03:51:25 PM
jes because communist china, boosted production and global trade, and communists eastern european labour is powering the broken western countries till today.

While China was communist it's GDP per capita was 900$.
When they embraced the free market, their GDP has started doubling every 5 years.
In the last 20ish years of capitalism their GDP grew from 900 to 9000$ per capita.

It's individuals forming companies that propelled it's growth.
While the state owned the production they were 10 times poorer (900$/year).
447  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Communist Croatian government on: December 28, 2019, 03:39:43 PM
the victims of capitalism are called "the poor"

the victims of communism are called the exploited workers and talents,

truth is there are always victims.

There has never been a system that has eliminated povery in such proportion as capitalism did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n6ivGgb9RY

jes thats only the case if you reduce the sphere of capitalism on the capitalist core countries and ignore the other countries, like usa and uk being capitalist and latin america, that delivers a lot of american products and asia, being communist.

That's not true.
Poverty worldwide has decreased by 80% since 1970.
448  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Communist Croatian government on: December 28, 2019, 03:33:32 PM
the victims of capitalism are called "the poor"

the victims of communism are called the exploited workers and talents,

truth is there are always victims.

There has never been a system that has eliminated povery in such proportion as capitalism did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n6ivGgb9RY
449  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Caribbean Pirates had a Better System of Government on: December 28, 2019, 01:12:17 PM
no

their law was for even petty things the got thrown off the ship(death)
it was not solidarity, it was fear of life

other pirates would persuade each other not to break the rules of the boat because one less hand onboard means more work for the others

the only time they kept prisoners was if the prisoner had value back on shore. why feed and hydrate someone with no value, who is not helping out the crew and is just dead weight

it wasnt about brotherhood or companionship. or morals. it was about survival
in many cases once they are heading back to shore after their thievery they would kill off a few crew to reduce the amount of people vs treasure.
there was also a hierachy with the captain being the tyrant

so dont think a pirate is all peace, loving brotherhood of equality

badecker. if you were onboard and said
"nah captain, i feel like taking a rest day today as i have my own freedoms to control my own body"(your usual rhetoric) the captain will say "fine control your body in the water, goodbye"
and no he wont give you food, lifejacket and a lifeboat. he would just feed you to the sharks

Ughh, I think that's the point.
A system that's based on morals, brotherhood or companionship is a shit system because sooner or later someone's not going to be moral or brotherly.

pirates and ISIS dont have  governments

governments are a national system.
your trying to assume what hostile acts might work out for some in a army camp or a boat can also work nationally for people not interested in screwing each other over, harming others

sorry. but pirate law would work for prison cellmates but not for populations outside of prison.

but enjoy living a life where you think no one should own property and how stealing is the norm.. so how about you live by your mindset and hand over your private keys to scammers.

oh wait, suddenly not willing to give up your property and dont like the idea of taking your property. well well well

I'm pretty sure ISIS had a goverment.
450  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Communist Croatian government on: December 28, 2019, 12:48:39 PM
HDZ party have nothing to do with communism. Also communism is not about parties. But just about one political group.


Psynthax?  LOL  You need to use different passwords.  

When the Croatian Communist Party fell in 1990 70% of its members joined the HDZ.
Most of the founders of the party were members of the Croatian Communist Party, some even of the notorious UDBA (something like KGB)
Even the first president Franjo Tuđman was a communist general.

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if it would be communist it would have never split appart from jugoslavia, which was an amazing country that was capable to build its own ships unlike what we have in that region today.
Denmark abondoned it's ship industry because it's not profitable.
We heavily subsidize our own so we can lose more money and gain more votes from people who depend on the state.

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To everyone else.
The dude is obviously trolling
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messing my body with computer brain interface that connects to the body via electro-magnetism and can control every aspect of your brain and body.
451  Local / Off-topic (Hrvatski) / Re: Politika u Hrvatskoj on: December 28, 2019, 12:07:36 PM


I sada su glasali po naredbi iz središnjice pa su skoro izgubili izbore sa mizernih 2% prednosti.
Po čemu Škoro nije bolji od standardnog HDZovca?
Čovjek ima 3 fakulteta i akademiju, a jedini meni bitan od tih svih je doktorat iz ekonomskih znanosti te predavanje Uvoda u ekonomiju u Osijeku.
Jedini zna nešto od ekonomiji od svih kandidata koji su bili prisutni (osim Kovača koji iako vjerovatno zna više je marginalan kandidata sa ispod 1% glasova).


Pa i nisu bas HDZovci bili tako strogi oko  presjednickih izbora, onaj  Culej je istaknuti clan pa je javno podrzao Skoru.
Skoro kao i vecina ostalih HDZovaca mlati o domoljubju, domovini i ostalim floskulama, ali znamo di je bio i sta je radio kad je bilo zajebano. Kao onaj redikul Hasanbegovic.
Evo recimo, ajmo uzeti hipotetsku situaciju da na slijedecim izborima HDZ uzme 30%, SDP 25% a Skoro sa tom nekom svojom koalicijom 15%. I sad se treba sloziti vlada. Da li itko uopce sumnja sa kim ce Skoro koalirati?

A sto se tice ekonomije, cini mi se da je i on socijalist, kao i vecina HDZa, evo  jedan njegov odgovor iz intervjua: "Priznajem da sam desno kad su u pitanju nacionalni interesi, ali kad je riječ o radu i čovjeku, tu sam lijevo."
Nisam nasao nista detaljno  o njegovom gospodarskom programu, ali ako stvarno misli ovo sto je rekao , djaba mu svi ekonomski  fakulteti ako se kao i HDZ i SDP nije odmaknuo od socijalizma.


Nijedan predsjednik nikad nije bio branitelj.
Nijedan kandidat nije bio branitelj - osim Đapića.
Pa mi je pomalo i smiješno kada se Škoru napada sa dis bio 91. a nijedan predsjednik i rijetko koji kandidat je riskirao svoj život i nijedan nije napadan s istom retorikom.

Spominjao je porezno opterećenje i preveliki državni aparat više puta tako da mislim da je to neutemeljeno.
Zašto misliš da bi osvojio samo 15%?

Mislim da nijedan "nestranački " premijer realno nema šanse da bilo što napravi ili promjeni zbog jednostavne činjenice da nema političku moć i utjecaj bilo što bitno promijeniti bez podrške stranaka u Saboru.
Takva očekivanja su naivna.
Premijer nije direktor firme već je to politička funkcija i samo onaj sa strankom iza sebe realno ima neki politički utjecaj da nešto napravi.
Isto tako, još od 1990. političke stranke u Hrvatskoj ne dobivaju ili gube izbore na temelju ostvarenog ekonomskog rasta,  razvoja,  modernizacije društva,  novih radnih mjesta, povećanja društvenog blagostanja. ..
Onaj koji misli da je to prosječnom hrvatskom glasaču bitno i važno jako je naivan.
Izbori se kod nas dobivaju na temelju klasične političke korupcije i nepotizma,  gdje za stranke glasaju njihovi članovi jer nakon očekivane pobjede očekuju "uhljebljivanje " u općinska i županijska vijeća,  javne i državne firme. ..
Drugi dio glasača su interesne skupine, državni službenici i namještenicim,  branitelji,  nacionalne manjine,  umirovljenici. ...
Trećima je važnije da pobjede "naši " tj.  pravi hrvati a ne "njihovi " tj  crveni,  orjunasi,  Jugoslaveni,  komunisti. .. pa makar 4 godine travu jeli 😁
Ostali su ionako pobjegli u Irsku,  Njemačku... i glasovali tako da su pobjegli što su dalje mogli odavde 😁😁
Zbog ovakve situacije prave promjene jednostavno nisu moguće i imamo politički status quo,  duopol hdzsdp.
Tko misli da se izbori dobivaju političkim programima i planovima za promjenu društva naivan je.


Ovo je jako tužno i istinito u isto vrijeme.

Što mislite o modelu 'demokracije' kao što je opisano u knjizi 'Starship Troopers' od Robert A. Heinlein-a? Ne znam koliko je to obrađeno u filmu pa, za one koji nisu čitali, osnovni princip je da se glas na izborima mora 'zaslužitii'. Konkretno, u knjizi, pravo glasa su imali samo građani koji su odslužili vojnu službu. Svi ostali su bili civili bez prava glasa.

Alternativno, u Hrvatskoj bi se mogao uvesti i model u kojemu pravo glasa imaju samo građani koji prođu određeni test inteligencije. Smiley


Ljudi koji rade u državnim službama ne bi trebali imati pravo glasa.
452  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Auction] Encyclopedia of physical bitcoins and crypto-currencies revised on: December 27, 2019, 07:46:01 PM
I will take it for .01 but this shipping fee is just a deal breaker.. it’s like paying almost 40% of the item cost into shipping..

Shipping from Croatia is actually quite cheap.
People who bought knives from me can confirm this.

I believe it shouldn't be more than 20$, but I can weigh the book and check the options.
453  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Auction] Encyclopedia of physical bitcoins and crypto-currencies revised on: December 27, 2019, 03:35:08 PM
May be lowering more on  the starting bid will get you started.  Smiley

It's already for 0.01BTC that's 40% of the price!
454  Local / Off-topic (Hrvatski) / Re: Politika u Hrvatskoj on: December 27, 2019, 02:30:43 PM

Mike bitno što su dobili nego to da su imali priliku nešto napraviti, a nisu ju iskoristili. OK, ne ulazim u to koliko ih je HDZ u tome sprečavao ali to je stvar dogovora između Mosta i HDZ-a. Nije bilo potrebe da uzmu Ministarstvo unutarnjih poslova i njega urede. Mogli su urediti neko manje značajno ministarstvo i time bi biračima poručili - evo, uspjeli smo dobiti jedno ministarstvo i vidite što smo postigli. Siguran sam da bi na idućim izborima dobili više glasova. Ali dobro... Bilo pa prošlo.

Što se tiče Oreškovi, meni uopće nije smetalo što nije pričao čisti hrvatski jezik. Da dođe Kinez koji uopće ne priča hrvatski i uspije pokrenuti gospodarstvo, imao bi moj glas zauvijek!

Ma, mislim da im ne bi pomoglo ništa poslije te koalicije xD
80% glasača ih je prekrižilo čim su koalirali.
Morao je Orešković ostati na vlasti i napraviti čuda i to rast bar od 6% BDPa.

U svakom slučaju bolje je da se dvopartijskim strukturama malo tresu gaće zbog slabog rada, i oni će se morati potruditi ako žele zadržati više stolica Smiley
455  Local / Off-topic (Hrvatski) / Re: Politika u Hrvatskoj on: December 27, 2019, 02:15:32 PM
Nisam za niti jednu od dvije opcije HDZ-SDP. Ali ne razumijem zašto ljudi misle da će se nešto promijeniti ako dobijemo treću opciju? Zar ju nismo imali kad je Most dobio velik broj glasova? I što se dogodilo? Opet su koalirali s HDZ-om i na kraju propali. Ne znam kakva bi ta treća opcija morala biti da uspije nešto promijeniti. Stvarno sumnjam da itko kao treća opcija može osvojiti dovoljno glasova da samostalno sastavi vladu. A bez toga promjene nema. Uvijek će netko od dvoje glavnih biti upravo to - glavni.

Most nije došao na vlast.
Most je dogovorom uspio postaviti na vlast nestranačkog premijera (unpopular opionion: Orešković je bio bolji premijer od svih HDZovih/SDPovih premijera), no HDZ je naravno srušio istog i postavio svog čovjeka jer ih ovaj nije slušao jer je - nestranački premijer.

Ma kako nije došao na vlast ako je bio u koaliciji s HDZ-om i "dobio" neka ministarstva (odnosno njihovi ljudi su bili ministri)? Što točno tebi znači doći na vlast? Samostalno uspostaviti vladu? Pa onda nitko osim povremeno HDZ-a nikada nije došao na vlast.
Što se tiče nestranačkog premijera, od početka je bilo jasno kako će to završiti... Ne razumijem se u političke borbe ali mislim da bi im bolje bilo da su uzeli dva-tri ministarstva i probali srediti njih za početak. Onda bi narod možda pomislio "gle, pa ovi stvarno žele nešto promijeniti" i na idućim izborima bi više neodlučnih otišlo na izbore i glasalo za Most. Ovako su dobili jedno veliko NIŠTA. Više čak nisu niti ozbiljna politička opcija...

Dobili su sitan broj ministarstava koje su držali koliko dugo?
Nije im dugo trajala ta koalicija a ni nestranački premijer.

Da ne ispadne da ih branim, daleko od toga, počinili su ogromnu izdaju svojih birača koalicijom, ali ne treba ih suditi po 'vladanju' jer vladanja baš i nisu imali. A Oreškovića što se tiče, meni se sviđao To što nije znao jezik mi nije bilo ni najmanje bitno.
Dovukao je neke investicije u tih bijednih par mjeseci, od čega i tražanje nafte po bivšem Panonskom moru.
456  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Auction] Encyclopedia of physical bitcoins and crypto-currencies revised on: December 27, 2019, 02:09:58 PM
Only 2 days left, bump.
457  Other / Ivory Tower / Re: Our capitalist minds don't let us evolve. on: December 27, 2019, 02:45:07 AM
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1.- 100 years ago Nicola Tesla discover a technology called 'WiTricity', and yes, that's electricity without wires, and if we are not using it now is because the copper wire industry can't die, there is too much money involved.

Yes. The copperwire industry is stopping us from having wireless electricity lol
The losses in this kind of transfer are too high, that's the reason why it's not widespread today.

My highschool classmate built a Tesla coil himself, and we used it.
The transfer losses are enormous and not at all viable to use.
Besides from that, people complain about 4G and 5G killing birds and radiation, how do you think they'd react to a 100x pricier wireless transmitted electrical current?

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2.- Ask yourself why people keep going to church in 2019... for simple mortals is about faith, but for the religion is about to make from god their hooker and have him working 24/7-365. And if you think the religion make it for us and not for business, just look all that gold...

Yes. Those priest live such good lives with so many women and alcohol (oh wait, they don't have wives and don't drink o.o)

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3.- We already can make electric cars, the fuel cars make damage to our ambient and contribute to global warming, but the fuel cars production will not stop because #FuckEvolution #MoneyTalks

CO2 is plant food.

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-Why cure diseases and illnesses when profit can be made off them?

You will profit out of making a cure and you don't care that someone is making money off of it somehow else.

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-Why have efficient energy for free when profit is to be from oil?

We can't have efficient energy because countries heavily subsidize inefficent electric energy with taxpayer money while heavily critising the most efficient forms (nuclear).

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We are losing many great minds as well to people stuck in the capitalistic system.  They have to struggle just for basic needs like shelter and food as their talents and abilities go to waste.

If that's true how come Tesla didn't invent anything in his native Triune Kingdom of Croatia under the Austrian monarchy and moved to the capitalist USA? Where are all the Soviet scientists?

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Exactly, an incident happened few years back in my country, The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation picked up interested in sponsoring a vaccine that'll reduce/stop the spread of malaria as it's the N01 cause of death in my country but the medical/pharmaceutical association in my country rejected the offer with the claim, malaria treatment is their main source of income and spraying the vaccine will stop their source of income.

You can't stop the free market.
You can stop the goverment with lobbyng.
Goverment run healthcare = inefficient lobbyng group

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and speaking of religion (church) that one have been turned into a full time business in my country. We now have more numbers and very well built churches than schools.

I don't see the priests driving around in Ferraris.
And even if they did, why would it be a bad thing?

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I was trying to explain with different examples why our capitalism minds don't let us evolve... but if those were nonsense for you i would like to give another example... Just think about RAM memory card, the production cost of the 2GB card and the 8GB card is almost the same. So, why keep creating 2GB cards?

You should start a RAM business and make yourself a wealthy man.

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We have been conditioned to think and prioritise in a capitalist way. This pushes us towards valuing accumulation of money and consumer goods above concerns such as the welfare of individuals, establishment of a 'fair' society where everyone has equal opportunities, establishment of a guaranteed minimum standard of living with universal rights such as free speech, healthcare, fair trial etc.
Pursuit of money or pursuit of individual interest makes everyones life better.

“It is not from the benevolence (kindness) of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest.”

By pursuing individual interest, people make society better as a whole because in order to obtain currency you have to produce something of value that will make other peoples lives better.
100s of millions of people operating this way gave the average man a car, a phone and a laptop.

458  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Auction] Encyclopedia of physical bitcoins and crypto-currencies revised on: December 27, 2019, 01:07:33 AM
where is it shipping from?


European Union, Croatia to be exact.
459  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: December 26, 2019, 06:33:33 PM
Just to start with numbers & highlight the seriousness of the issue – there were around 40K gun deaths in 2017 alone which was 1000 more than the year before. What I think, the goal should be simple and clear to reduce overall number of guns available with masses, especially the ones considered weapons of war like AKs and Semis. Policy and amendments’ must be in place to reduce market desire for new weapons.

Do you think criminals care if the guns are legal or not?
You'll only take them from law-abiding citizens.
Ill-intetioned people will still have theirs.
460  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Targeted Individual on: December 26, 2019, 06:28:40 PM
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