Hello;
Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.
I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.
I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.
So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?
I am a Muslim and I am not the problem. All around I see a siege being laid for the Muslims of this country. Government, TV media, social media – everywhere there is a cacophony around the Muslims. This cacophony is the problem. I am not the problem. Hate is being mainstreamed by the very people responsible to maintain harmony, to bridge divides. This hate is the problem. I am not the problem. Everywhere you go, where there's a lot of immigirants, the locals dislike them It's not about being Muslim, it's about being n immigrant and taking over someone elses land I'm not even talking about people of different nationalities or religions People of the same nationality and religion are hated upon if they move in big numbers to a certain territory The locals dislike them, because they're threatened The most common name given to a baby in London is Mohammad, that says enough. |
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Wait are you talking about joe or you, because there's no point discussing anything further with joe. In terms of you all I did was use your own logic to present a different opinion, if that's your definition of emotion, cool.
How is it the same logic? The logic was DT abuse. Both threads have a red tag from DT members. Thanks, I don't have anything against you either, we had a successful non escrow transaction a few months back. I would conduct another transaction again without hesitation. That doesn't change the fact I think your wrong and joe is a retard.
Again thanks for the advice on changing my approach but to be honest I'm Ok with calling a person unable to identify a circle from a picture a retard. No need to be nice to them as it just encourages them and then they think the are special and beat science.
I think its worth noting I don't think joe should be banned or silenced, I just think hes mentally fucking retarded and really it shouldn't be a surprise a person might not find him trustworthy... I assume we'll just agree to disagree since the argument is clearly heading nowhere  No problem  *an account
not accounts
It is clearly stated I would not sell to people with a red tag, and I ended up locking the thread because only newbies were contacting me!
I would not have given it to someone who would of missused it!
Ok, account, not accounts. You wouldn't sell account to random newbie or user with red tag. Let's say that you you would sell it to user with neutral trust. But how you can be sure that he wont missue that account? There was many cases when green trusted people with solid reputation or Donators turned into scammers. Well, he could already do it with his own account. If he would decide to scam, I would be able to neg the account that bought it too. |
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Okay, I'm out.
Could report that post, insults without any constructive info behind are deleted sometimes..
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OP, you've been long enough here to know that account sales aren't tolerated by DT members. No matter you're newbie or legendary member. It's not worth to risk your reputation while trying to sell accounts.
Maybe you still can be considered as as trusted lender or escrow agent, but I think that negative trust rating that you got is fair. Usually people buying accounts with bad intentions - they want to scam someone, abuse bounties and etc. And by selling account you're just helping to these abusers.
I don't know, maybe trust system is missued sometimes, but it's not your case. People offen complaining that trust system is unfair, but they can't offer better alternatives to current system.
P.S. I think this topic belongs to reputation board.
*an account not accounts It is clearly stated I would not sell to people with a red tag, and I ended up locking the thread because only newbies were contacting me! I would not have given it to someone who would of missused it!
You insults to joe, which include stupid, retarded etc. are really on a kindergarden level, and you seem to be continuing the same actions in this thread too.
If you incapable of leading a civilized discussion please feel free to ignore my posts.
First off I did not insult you so I am not continuing any such thing in this thread. I insulted joe calling him a retard because he is. Even a kindergarten student can look at a picture and identify a round object. I am very capable of having a civilized discussion, generally though when a person is not smart enough to identify a round object from a picture it is impossible for them to have a rational discussion and so all political correctness for me goes out the window. Not everyone deserves to be treated with respect point blank, when you simply refuse to accept basic facts because of self incredulity I am going to call you a retard. sue me, red tag me, ban me I don't give a fuck tbh. I appreciate the advice to ignore your posts but I will keep responding as I like! BTW you are also quite free to ignore my uncivilized posts as well. You haven't but your way of replying is sort of mock-yell which resembles children arguing. Only using emotions instead of actually discussing something. Just look at your posts and tell me you don't see it.. Don't think I have something against you personally, I just think you should change the way you approach discussion. |
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My feedback is factual and appropriate.
Come on. You know you don't really believe he has severe mental issues! By the same logic if we let lying become socially acceptable then... well, luckily for you the reality is not a black-and-white slippery slope so don't worry too much about that. We'll cross that bridge (or slope) when we get to it. He hasn't been negged for lying but for believing that Earth is flat. |
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Whoa hey man why are you trying to stifle free speech of peoples opinions?? Their opinion is you're not trustworthy dude let the users figure out if you are trustworthy or not man. You don't agree with their opinion so you want to pressure them with a completely irrelevant poll and retaliatory feedback to remove it. Your suggestion is totally against the libertarian principles on which the forum was founded (Satohsi is rolling in his grave)...     For people reading this right now, this is about: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5036845.msg46153606#msg46153606--------------- Are you really missing the point I am trying to make in both threads? DT feedback is a tool that can be missused, feedback that is not DT is not, since it does not have nearly the same impact and is completely decentralized. If it wasn't DT trust, it would be as you said 'people deciding on their own', but we all know what DT feedback carries a lot more weight, and that power is being missused As I have said previously, I do not care what Lauda thinks or what his feedback is, nor am I trying to pressure him to change it (what?), I am merely stating the flaws of the trust system, since DT members have labeled me as 'not to be trusted' but obviously according to this poll, users of bitcointalk.org do trust me? Thanks for your vote too! Although it's against me Doesn't that mean that the trust system is being missused? If a 'not to be trusted' person is trusted? And a DT member steals 3000 BCH and extorts people? You insults to joe, which include stupid, retarded etc. are really on a kindergarden level, and you seem to be continuing the same actions in this thread too. If you incapable of leading a civilized discussion please feel free to ignore my posts. |
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How would the website know you are you before logging in?
It would only work with a dedicated IP, so Tor isn't an option.
Perhaps if there was a bitcointalk add-on you'd have to buy, and the website would reckognize you have it installed.
However, this is extremely unlikely..
Couldn't Theymos provide users with a special cookie? Pretty sure I also saw somewhere that Vod doesn't need to complete captcha because of some bypass he has, maybe he can comment if he sees this, or perhaps this just relates to his BPIP website I don't recall exactly. Whatever the solution, I would certainly pay a small sum to bypass the captcha, I have been infuriated by it more times than I care to remember. I'm infuriated right now just thinking about it. It could be done, but it's complicated. Don't believe we're gonna see this happen. |
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How would the website know you are you before logging in?
It would only work with a dedicated IP, so Tor isn't an option.
Perhaps if there was a bitcointalk add-on you'd have to buy, and the website would reckognize you have it installed.
However, this is extremely unlikely..
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Can you pin-point the reply where he is blatantly lying?
I mean, as in lying, not having a different opinion.
In the flat earth thread, he claims he watched a ship go over the horizon and he brought it back with binoculars. That is obviously a lie, because it's impossible. :/ Okay. So, the correct wording should be: The user has been caught lying. Trade with caution. Or something along those lines. Not Believes the earth is flat. I can't trust people with severe mental issues. |
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1. We red tag joe for believing in something that can be easily refuted
2. I can now red tag people who believe the moon landing was fake
3. I can now red tag people who believe 9/11 was an inside job
4. I can now red tag communists because there's irrefutable evidence around the world communism doesn't work
5. I can now red tag religious people for believing in an imaginary man on the sky
First of all yes you and any users can tag anyone you want for any reason. Second Vod has not red tagged anyone for any of those reasons so your logic is specious. Yes, he didn't. But if we let this become socially acceptable, someone else will, and it's a matter of time when it's going to happen. I would like to remind Vod of one of his posts earlier https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2805176.msg28696741#msg28696741Who knows, given some time you might even learn to tackle the argument, not just the person. What the? You guys were the ones who were calling him a retard, stupid etc. instead of explaining why his 'experiment' is fake and that isn't possible. |
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1. We red tag joe for believing in something that can be easily refuted 2. I can now red tag people who believe the moon landing was fake 3. I can now red tag people who believe 9/11 was an inside job 4. I can now red tag communists because there's irrefutable evidence around the world communism doesn't work 5. I can now red tag religious people for believing in an imaginary man on the sky  |
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Can Lauda meme?  |
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I think this post is a pretty good example of Lauda promptly ignores all concerns with his trust ratings Whining when your lies get exposed will not help you. Nobody in their right mind is going to support your bullshit nowadays. Write something in Croatian. $1,000,000 isn't even a lot of money. Maybe you can buy a small house in Los Angeles.
Or Nigeria... On Topic: I think you should not accept accounts as collateral anymore, there is clearly an issue with account selling. I clearly won't. It was a mistake. Mistakes happen  |
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Unfortunately there isn’t anything that can be done. Lauda promptly ignores all concerns with his trust ratings and regularly leaves negative ratings to those who speak out against him.
The administration ignores all instances of clearly erroneous trust ratings in the name of “free markets” which is idiotic because the administration is who arbitrarily allowed these people to leave ratings with substantially greater weight in the first place.
In regards to your question in the OP, it is ridiculous to say that selling some kind of your ethically obtained is somehow going to make you a scammer or untrustworthy. That is nothing more than an effort to artificially and arbitrarily regulate free markets and stifle free trade.
The truth meter for that post:
It still hurts that we killed your account farming and selling business, doesn't it? How exactly did you kill something? If I wanted to trade acounts, I could just do it. How would a tag stop me? However, I locked the thread and didn't sell 1 account. 1 account, my account, the account I got as collateral 2 years ago. Btw, your weakass scammer memes are no match for not-scamming dank memes.  |
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It doesn't matter it's about flat-earth, it starts a bad precedent.
Bullshit. The subject matters and the user's blatant lying matters too. Your attempt to make this into some free speech issue is pathetic. This is a Bitcoin forum, not a "come here to lie without consequences" forum. I'm sure there are places for flat-earthers to discuss their pancakes without repercussions. On this forum however trust matters and it just so happens that a liar got called out as untrustworthy. Here are some other things you want to avoid "discussing" here: "$10,000 reward for a Super Hero Legendary Merit Source account and how it relates to Bitcoin" "$10,000 reward for a plagiarism bot and how it relates to Bitcoin" "$10,000 reward for running a ponzi ICO and how it relates to Bitcoin" "$10,000 reward for killing Vod and hiding the body and how it relates to Bitcoin" I'm sure there is an endless list of idiotic shit that one can frame as a "reward" and then claim to have an "opinion" justifying it. Doesn't mean everybody has to consider such behavior trustworthy. I will not lie, I haven't read through the entire thread, I skimmed it mostly. Can you pin-point the reply where he is blatantly lying? I mean, as in lying, not having a different opinion.
It doesn't matter it's about flat-earth, it starts a bad precedent.
For some reason people think context doesn't matter when its actually paramount LOL. You might just be on to something I think we should let scammers remain untagged as well since its their opinion that they are not scamming and limiting their opinions is a violation of free speech as well... I also don't think we should ban plagiarists since it's there opinion they are not doing anything wrong! Murders shouldn't be prosecuted (at least any murder who's opinion is they are doing nothing wrong). The OP is retarded, mentally unbalanced or lying and we as a society are not doing them or ourselves any favours letting him think hes a special snowflake who somehow beat science. We literally have 1000's of photo's of the fucking earth, simply put even a retard can look at a picture and say round. No we shouldn't make room for the OP's opinion we should ridicule and laugh his demonstrably retarded ass out of the fucking gene pool. Reductio ad absurdum. It's their opinion to scam? Are you high or something? Copy&pasting isn't an opinion. Murdering someone makes harm to someone else, it is not an opinion. Now I can red tag you because you're a retard who doesn't know the definition of an opinion? opinion (ə-pĭnˈyən)►
n.
A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof: "The world is not run by thought, nor by imagination, but by opinion” ( Elizabeth Drew).
n.
A judgment based on special knowledge and given by an expert: a medical opinion.
n.
A judgment or estimation of the merit of a person or thing: has a low opinion of braggarts.
As I said so far, facts don't care about opinions. So if your opinion is you're innocent what does that have to do with you killing someone? The same way, him believing the earth is flat doesn't make it flat! But you should not red tag him because of believing it since he's not doing harm to anyone! Some time ago people behaved this way to those who claimed the earth was round Really pathetic how the staff and DT members gang up so violently and aggresive on the community for daring to defend someone who they consider a victim of the trust system.
Out of curiosity: Who exactly are you and why are you particularly interested in this particular reputation issue? Outlier names tend to catch my old eye, although I'm not up to date with all the newly active individuals here. Dunno, he's probably just someone who didn't mismanage 3000 BTC. |
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If you want to, I can make another poll to see who would bitcointalk users rather trust with their BTC, Lauda or iluvbitcoins I don't really care whether you're willing to put up the effort to gather support from kool-aid drinking XMR bagholders. You're clearly responding emotionally to thus, as you got caught and thus can't be trusted. How the hell did I "get caught"? By stumbling upon a public thread I opened in front of everyone? I posted it publicly in the auction section. Written clearly, I got this account from a defaulted loan and will not sell to people with a red tag. Correct, you got caught. Not everything posted publicly gets noticed. So, your definition of getting caught is opening a thread I opened, and bumped each day lol As, I said, I believe I deserve another chance, I see you think otherwise, I really don't care what you think as long as I see the public is with me. I will continue to do my business around the forums with a 'not to be trusted' tag, and will continue to be trusted Meanwhile, you are DT and people still won't trust you You being DT means shit when you're a piece of shit scammer  That red tag won't make me a scammer though Cheers Lauda, keep your stolen forked coins and lecture others about trust. Ohh yeah, also, I'll ask you again, how come you forgot to speak Croatian after resetting your e-mail address :O |
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If you want to, I can make another poll to see who would bitcointalk users rather trust with their BTC, Lauda or iluvbitcoins I don't really care whether you're willing to put up the effort to gather support from kool-aid drinking XMR bagholders. You're clearly responding emotionally to thus, as you got caught and thus can't be trusted. How the hell did I "get caught"? By stumbling upon a public thread I opened in front of everyone? I posted it publicly in the auction section. Written clearly, I got this account from a defaulted loan and will not sell to people with a red tag. You blew your second chance when you falsely tagged The Pharmacist and me in a malicious attempt to tarnish our reputations. I am willing to remove the tag I left on The Pharmacist. Not you. You have mismanaged 3000 BTC worth of assets. And should be removed immediately from DT. |
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