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461  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: December 17, 2021, 12:56:21 PM
OO wow woohoo! Looks like I won this round's yellow cap yay! LFC_Bitcoin I thought would get it but day before yesterday games went my way!




Wooden spoon for me  Cheesy

Burnley - Watford has just got postponed due to covid. I feel like this is biggest virus problem in England and consequently Premier League since that first lock down when whole league was on pause.

How bad is the situation in England actually? Is there realistic chance to stop the league? I hear Leicester is also hit hard and their games could get postponed as well.

Probably depends who you ask and what you define as bad. If you consult the media and government then it's potentially the zombie plague and you should stay inside under all circumstances as we're all going to die, possibly. Or if you turn off the news and carry on as normal everything will be ok and you probably wouldn't even notice anything, except you might end up catching a mild winter cold. Doesn't look to be many if any players coming down with symptoms just testing positive which isn't that surprising when they're probably testing every day or so. I'm sure they're fit enough to play but if you test positive even without symptoms they won't let you play. I'm sure more games will be called off  this month.
462  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: December 15, 2021, 05:40:13 PM
Christ, Man City really gave Leeds an ass whooping didn’t they Cheesy
Hopefully Liverpool do something similar to Newcastle. I was supposed to be going to the game but had to give up my ticket.

Yeah, it wasn't pretty. City could have easy got over 10 goals. One was disallowed, couple hit the woodwork and another couple were millimetres wide. Lots of good goalward bound blocks from the Leeds defence as well.

Am hardly worried though. We just need to match City every step of the way, and nice to have Chelsea pushing us as well. December heat is seldom our problem... We top Christmas often enough. It is Afcon and January that keep haunting us season after season. IIRC our six loss streak last season set off around that time... Though that was really more of an assembly line of injury bad luck that started with VVD.
AFCON will be though for Liverpool, even if they were just loosing Salah it would be devastating since he is in the best form of his career but loosing him and Mane at the same time could place serious dent in the attack. Especially if Firmihno does not get back from injury.

Arsenal - West ham should have goals in it, right? My bet goes on both to score in that game + Crystal Palace to win against injury stricken Southampton.

Yeah, I can see that, though 0-0 wouldn't surprise me either. I've gone for 2-2 cos I can't pick a winner and put a quid on the both teams to score in each half with 2 cards and 2 corners each.
463  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Jake Paul vs Tyron Woodley 2 - December 18 on: December 14, 2021, 02:22:26 PM
At all bookmakers, Woodley is a favorite, but is such a short period of time enough to prepare him for the fight? Normally I would say it was a stupid decision, but I think Woodley was getting ready for the fight anyway, or he might have had suspicions long before that this was going to happen and was in the process of preparing. I can't see any other rational explanation.

I think I might back Woodley in this one. I think he's going to want to avenge his loss and try get the job done without it going to points. That huge 500k knockout bonus is a huge incentive as well so I think he might go all out trying to get that KO. I'm sure he'll capitalise if he stings Jake again rather than not going in for the kill. I kinda want Jake Paul to continue his winning streak though just to see how far he can go and what opponents are clamouring to fight him next. I really want to see him take on a big name opponent and I'm sure that will come if the can get through this fight and then the Tommy one which I'm sure will happen still.
464  Economy / Goods / Re: ~ Buying a TESLA CYBERTRUCK with BITCOIN ~ on: December 14, 2021, 02:12:58 PM
There's been a lot of talk about the giant windshield wiper on the latest cybertruck prototype.  People were hoping for lasers to remove water from the windshield after a Tesla patent on the process was made public.  There is still hope though, as Elon made a couple of tweets addressing the subject for those who found the windshield wiper pictured in the last post to be abhorrent.

I still don't think Tesla is going to reinvent the windshield wiper with lasers, but you gotta give it to Elon to fuel the fire when he sees an opportunity.  I love that about him.

Couldn't they make it telescopic? I.e it's a third of the size or so but it can extend and retract when needed or not? It does look pretty unsightly right now.

There has been talk that the windshield wiper may utilize a different patent of Tesla's known as the Regen Wiper Blade.  One where the force of the wind pushes the wiper up and that energy is captured and used to help power the system.  Basically turns the windshield wiper into a wind turbine.  This seems a little far fetched to me, but no more than using lasers instead of a wiper.

That doesn't sound feasible or practical to me.

I'm not a Tesla fanboy or even fan and their other cars look average and overpriced to me, but I love everything about the Cybertruck and would certainly buy one if they accepted bitcoin again. My only fear is that they won't be street legal in the UK. They're going to have to scale it down even further to make it viable for UK's smaller/narrower roads.
465  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: December 14, 2021, 02:06:09 PM
After checking out my next fixture on my betslip I had for the later matches today:

Noticed the Manchester match has been postponed when looking for more news about it found this:
https://www.si.com/soccer/manchestercity/news/pep-guardiola-urges-manchester-city-players-to-be-careful-amid-rise-in-covid-19-cases

Do they have symptoms or just negative tests? I can't believe how overboard the government is going over omicron. Wildly reported as much milder symptoms, but just shut the entire country down and force vaccine passports and masks on everyone again along with more boosters that might not even work against it just in case. Looks like we're one step away from vaccine mandates right now and the gov threatening a vague 'plan C' on everyone.



@Betwrong @cygan: Leeds 19/1 to win, of course I bet on it. I've not predicted 100% with my bets in this season's pool though Wink

Leeds played pretty well last week and deserved a point but not sure City will be as easy. I could see a lot of goals though. Leeds still have a lot of players out including some of their best. They have a hell of a lot of players of yelllows as well which could effect their performance or we might see a lot of them getting subbed off to spare them from suspensions.
466  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Jake Paul vs Tyron Woodley 2 - December 18 on: December 09, 2021, 11:52:11 AM
Can't believe Woodley is already prepared.



So he says. Not sure if I believe him unless he was told to keep trim for a potential replacement if anything happened to Tommy. Either way he probably doesn't care as it's still a huge pay day for him.

Despite me wanting to see Jake Paul actually fight a boxer, I'm more interested in this rematch than I am with the fight against Tommy. I don't really know why, I just couldn't see Tommy beating Jake. At least now, I think there's a slight chance. Especially, since Tyron shouldn't be too worried about getting rematch money or at least if he wins, it opens up the potential for a rematch. I just want to see the Woodley that lets his hands go instead of just freezing up when he has an opponent hurt.

Honestly, I thought Tommy would've fought with a broken rib, and a chest infection just to get the money, since its probably a lot of money riding on this fight. Probably the biggest payday of his career so I don't think he pulled out willing fully, probably was by doctors orders.

I don't know if I'd back Jake but I think it's a fairly rounded fight so he had a chance. I don't think Jake would KO him but I could see it going the distance and at least it gets Jake the credentials of fighting a proper boxer. It's definitely a fight I'm hoping gets rescheduled. There's so much on the line for Tommy that that alone makes it worth a watch.

The additional $500K bonus if Woodley knocks him out seems like the icing on the cake to make people know that Woodley has an incentive to try and win.  I'm not sure how many people care to watch this rematch though.  I know I don't.  If someone gets knocked out I'll happily watch the clip but we've already seen this spectacle.

I wonder if this will make a difference to Woodly. He could get reckless going all out for a KO.

Oh, the same result again right?

looking forward to seeing this kind of scenario, where when he has the chance to follow up some huge punches but he chose to remain calm because he might lose his payment if he throws another punch. Rig!
This isn't talked about enough, that's a knockdown. He's clearly being held up by the ropes, the annoying part is Woodley didn't capitalise on this after hurting Jake. Something which us MMA fans have gotten used to, and has earned his nickname "the frozen one".

I honestly think Tyron can put away Jake Paul in round one if he would just let his hands go. Unfortunately, I'm expecting this to go similar to how it did in the first fight. I just wish Tyron would open up a little more, and have a little bit of fun in there on the night. Jake clearly isn't that good, alright he's probably better than you would expect from a Youtuber coming into boxing, but he certainly isn't usual pro boxing standards.

He might do, especially with that 500k bonus. He knows what he needs to do in this fight and I think he has to try go for a knockout. Doubt he will outbox him so unless he wants to lose on points he's going to have to capitalise if he stuns Jake again. In Jake's defence though he recovered very well.

Don't worry. Jake Paul's reputation won't be changed even he will win continuously unless he will now fight a real professional boxer in their prime.
Without knowing what went on behind the scenes, and seeing evidence of Tommy's injuries we can't really assume this was a dodge. So, we can't really blame Jake Paul for Tommy pulling out. I wouldn't hold it against Jake in this case, I'm not a huge fan of Jake Paul, but he isn't the one to blame. Although, that doesn't mean Tommy is to blame either, accidents, and injuries happen there's no real way of avoiding them. Just unfortunate timing.

Tommy has posted evidence that has been independently checked by doctors to be legit, unless he faked it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxPrBKZKzUI

Tyson did say a week or two ago that he might have broken his rib (as well as his own): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aYZDLaf6Xo

It was probably from doing that stupid medicine ball exercise where he was just smashing it into his ribs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC94DFkJa3U

No idea what's that's good for other than some broken ribs.
467  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: December 09, 2021, 11:23:59 AM
You guys are terrific predictors. It's so hard to compete with you. Smiley

And it's not like I'm not trying. Quite the contrary. I analyze the historic results, the odds etc. ... and yet, 44th place in several rounds in a row. Well, we are not halfway yet, so, I'm not losing my hope. Smiley


Maybe you're overthinking it. Maybe don't put too much thought into it and just go with your gut instinct. I usually just check the last 5 results of each team which it gives you on Superbru so there's not much effort involved. The table is quite compact point wise so I wouldn't get disheartened as consistent results can quickly get you up the table.

You guys are terrific predictors. It's so hard to compete with you. Smiley

And it's not like I'm not trying. Quite the contrary. I analyze the historic results, the odds etc. ... and yet, 44th place in several rounds in a row. Well, we are not halfway yet, so, I'm not losing my hope. Smiley


I completely understand your pain  Sad it seems to me that the more I do the analysis, the poorer the results I have.

btw. do you think that your username betwrong has nothing to do with the accuracy of your bets?  Grin

Haha  Grin. Jinxed himself.
468  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Tommy Fury vs Jake Paul on: December 06, 2021, 05:06:07 PM
https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/12488354/tommy-fury-pulls-out-of-jake-paul-fight-tyron-woodley-to-step-in-for-rematch-as-replacement-opponent

Tommy has fumbled it and pulled out of the fight. Jake will now be fighting Woodly in the rematch. He's even offered him an extra 500k if he can knock Jake out. Ballsy of Jake to offer such a bonus.

I know there was several allegations after the fight about terms being inserted into the contract to favour Jake, however to be honest the more I think about it the more likely this is MMA fans trying to save face.

That was complete BS spouted by Dillon Dannis. He's obviously pretty butthurt over not being the one fighting Jake.

I think what fed those allegations or rumours whatever you want to call them, is the fact that Woodley actually did knock down Jake, however it wasn't a clear knock down. Jake fell into the ropes, however as far as I know that should count as a knock down according to the boxing rules. He looked like the ropes stopped him from falling rather than just resting on them after a decent punch taken.

I guess you can debate whether it was a knock down but it was more of a stumble to me and he looked ok after it and bounced straight back.
469  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: December 03, 2021, 10:22:37 AM
That first Arsenal goal that was disallowed was an interesting situation. De Gea went down, play went on, Arsenal scored and then the ref blew the whistle as if to disallowed it. Not sure why he did that. Maybe he thought it was a foul on him but the replay showed it was a Man U player that stood on his foot. De Gea went down rolling around with the amateur dramatics as footballers do and ultimately paid the price for it. Glad it was given.

Yeah, I'm not trying to insinuate the conspiracies surrounding the vaccines. Like I said, this has definitely happened in stadiums before, I've personally seen someone collapse on a game day inside the stadium, though that was acted upon quickly by the stewards, and was quite far away from me so not quite sure what the cause was.

They probably happen more than people think and previously they probably could have gone largely unnoticed or reported. There's a lot of people at football games and a lot of people have heart attacks so they will happen from time to time. Regarding the vaccines, I do find it interesting that in the UK they don't seem to be aspirating the needles which is the way they're meant to be given. This should be done to ensure it's not gone into a vein as doing so can be very dangerous. You really shouldn't be mainlining this stuff as it obviously goes straight to your heart which could be causing a lot of these heart issues that people have been reporting after vaccination.
470  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: December 01, 2021, 12:33:15 AM
Uggh. Don't normally change my scores but changed the Newcastle game from 0-0 to 1-0 and Leeds 1-0 to 1-1. Lost out on 4 points there haha. Should have stuck to my guns. Leeds were lucky to get the late penalty though. Palace deserved a point.

Rangnick's at the wheeeel ♪ https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/man-utd-official-statement-to-confirm-ralf-rangnick-appointment-as-interim-manager

^According to calculations from Spurs,,, the very earliest this game takes place is Matchday 21, in after 1 January vs Watford and 2 January Burnley vs Manchester United.
does that mean we're gonna have to wait until next year to see who won the yellow cap in roun 14?  that sucks  Cheesy

Should be interesting to see if he has an impact. Klopp seems to think he's a tactical genius. Man U probably need someone to come in and do something drastic. I wonder how he will treat Ronaldo? Carrick was balsy benching him. I wonder if that was done due to a tantrum he had. Can't have been 'tactical' as I think was claimed. Might have won that if he had been on from the start.
471  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Tommy Fury vs Jake Paul on: December 01, 2021, 12:28:20 AM
I disagree, as does Tyson Fury. It's good for the sport as it brings in a whole new audience and some of them will stick around for other pro fights. I think it adds a little spice to the sport. Big fights tend to take ages to get sorted whereas these big-money match-ups get sorted pretty quick and they're often fun to watch in between the big main pro events.
I'm kind of sick of it, though I'll probably admit that its been beneficial to boxing as a whole. I've felt for years now, boxing has been on the decline, and these Youtubers certainly put the spotlight back onto boxing. I used to watch quite a bit of boxing, but these days I only really tune into my favourite fighters, and most of them are in the heavyweight division. UFC played a part in my interest waning, but I've definitely focused on boxing a lot more recently due to this....circus? I don't know if it's fair to say that, the Jake Paul vs Tyrone Woodley fight was actually alright. The Jake Paul fights before that were ridiculous, but I guess the Mayweather vs Logan fight was OK.

That's the fight that made me take an interest in him. Jake blitzed the other two but I expected Woodly to KO him fairly easy as he has - or had - knock-out power but Jake was the better fighter in that fight. If I had no idea who Jake was tuning into that match I wouldn't have thought he was a youtuber or not a pro boxer. With amateurs or newcomers to the sport you can usually tell a mile off that they're not very good or can't box. Jake looked a natural and from what I've seen of Tommy's fight I don't think there's much between them to be honest. Jake has impressed me whereas Tommy has just been ok, but he's clearly been fighting journeymen. This fight will see them both step up in my opinion. Pressure is all on Tommy though as well so I think that could play a part. If Jake gives him a good first round I'm sure Tommy will go back the corner looking pretty worried.

My biggest gripe with boxing is the politics involved in matching up fighters. Joshua, and Fury should have already fought, and it's annoying as a fan to be strung along, and then the big fights end up happening when they are no longer in their prime, making it a bit of a farce, due to the fact they wanted to milk the hype behind them as much as possible.

It's all down to the money at the end of the day, but the mandatory fights always throw a spanner in the works. If it wasn't for the Wilder rematch then the Fury/AJ fight would have happened. I'm sure it will still happen but a lot of people will lose interest if AJ keeps losing. There's not many fighters left for Fury though. Usyk will likely be next if he beats AJ again which he probably will. Then who? I'm kinda hoping Ngannou goes into boxing as I'd love to see him against one of the big boxing heavyweights. I think he can knock anyone out if he lands one of those bombs he swings from a different universe. He'd get out-boxed all day against someone like Fury, AJ or Wilder, but I'd like to see what happens if someone like them took one of his best shots.
472  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Tommy Fury vs Jake Paul on: November 30, 2021, 10:41:09 PM
Because whether these fights are treated as professional or amateur, these are actually nothing but exhibition matches. They're done purely for the sake of entertainment and making money. The bodies, strength, and stamina of these people are not honed by the distinct rigors of boxing. I guess it is also for their safety.

Correct and that's what exhibition matches are for.

But this Tommy Fury vs Jake Paul is sanctioned as a professional match. Win or loss, the result will affect their respective boxing records. They will fight at a catchweight of 192 lbs. Jake Paul is more of boxing with records compared to Logan Paul that is always in the exhibition matches.

Jake Paul should try to fight an already popular boxer for people to recognize him as a real boxer. Even his upcoming fight is a professional one, it looks like an exhibition match because that's what they are famous for.


Tommy is a good enough opponent as any other and in my opinion a decent stepping stone/challenge to see if Jake can compete at a pro level. It would be unwise of him to try fight a seasoned pro but I think if he can just give Tommy a decent run for his money then we'll soon see him step it up a notch.


If Jake is so fond of boxing, he should train more and do more amateur boxing fights, instead of moving to professionals or having exhibition matches. If he posses himself more like a youtuber, then he should to say loud words about being greatest or be able to knockout anyone. He can knockout anyone on the street, but that is more about luck.
I don't hate Jake Paul, it's an exhibition fight, anyone can fight as long as you play the rules which are obviously different compared to professional boxing. Some fans maybe hated exhibition fights as it's taking the opportunity of the real boxing fights since people now are willing to spend money just to see a meaningless exhibition fight, but it's their right, it's their money so we have to respect them too.
With the exhibition matches, the real boxing importance keeps shrinking. Just our forum discussion itself a proof, because we are discussing much about the exhibition matches that are played than the real boxing. Somehow the matches aren't played with unmatched opponents.

I disagree, as does Tyson Fury. It's good for the sport as it brings in a whole new audience and some of them will stick around for other pro fights. I think it adds a little spice to the sport. Big fights tend to take ages to get sorted whereas these big-money match-ups get sorted pretty quick and they're often fun to watch in between the big main pro events.
473  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Tommy Fury vs Jake Paul on: November 26, 2021, 11:17:57 AM
Those who havent seen this conference - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwfWkxUiak8

Why would Tommy called his relatives to the conference ? He is a big boy, he can handle things by himself. Otherwise it looks like a parent meeting at school Cheesy I am just joking, they just call them for hype.



Well they're technically his trainers and Tyson will be in his corner for the fight so it's usual that a fighter's training partners are at a conference. John can't fly to the States and would be there if they could, but he needs to chill out as he's going to get himself in trouble. Trying to square up to a TV monitor of Jake was quite funny though.

Btw, we are in 2021, why their video call is so laggy? This conference was unfair, it was 1 vs 3 Cheesy To make this show more entertaining, Jake should fight all of them same time on the ring.

Well he was on his phone in his pool in Costa Rica. Probably not the best wifi. He probably should have done this in front of a computer as it was a shambles because of the lagging etc.


Tommy Fury is the brother of the world famous Tyson Fury.  He is a professional boxer and is serious about winning. 

Jake Paul is physically very strong.  He recently defeated Tyrone Woodley.  However, Tyrone Woodley is not a professional boxer.  Tyrone Woodley is a former UFC fighter.  That is, he owns boxing techniques, but his main technique is wrestling.  And the fight was held according to boxing rules. 

And here Jake Paul will be confronted by a professional boxer strongly motivated to win. 

In my opinion, Tommy Fury will have a convincing victory over Jake Paul.

I hope the same as I am tired of these fights with Paul brothers. They don't bring anything good to the boxing sport. This will the first fight that Jake Paul is fighting against a real boxer and I sure hope that Tommy Fury can deliver what we expect and knock him out in the first round  Grin.

I think they bring a lot of eyeballs to the sport and can be quite entertaining, especially when anything can happen. You'll have people tuning in because they want to see Jake lose and get knocked out and you'll also have people watching for the same to happen to Tommy. There's a lot at stake for Tommy so that adds an extra element to the fight for me. If Jake actually wins this fight then his stock will go up massively and who knows who he'll go on to fight next and like I've said above don't be surprised if his next fight is someone huge.
474  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Tommy Fury vs Jake Paul on: November 25, 2021, 01:22:49 PM
there is a recent update on their fight. looks like jake paul has been given an advantage in the fight(I am not surprised really). according to the article, the weight catch for the fight will be 192lbs. which was similar/closer to the weights where jake paul previously fought. as for Tommy Fury, the heaviest weight he has fought in is 189lbs which is still 3 pounds lighter than 192lbs.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/boxing/jake-paul-might-just-been-22207992

I think Jake will need all the advantages he can get. I'm all for levelling the playing field a bit to make the fight more interesting.

there is a recent update on their fight. looks like jake paul has been given an advantage in the fight(I am not surprised really). according to the article, the weight catch for the fight will be 192lbs. which was similar/closer to the weights where jake paul previously fought. as for Tommy Fury, the heaviest weight he has fought in is 189lbs which is still 3 pounds lighter than 192lbs.
Makes sense, probably worth putting a punt on Jake just because I haven't got absolute confidence in Tommy on the best days which have been few, and far between recently.

As for the weight minor difference there for Tommy, I don't think he'll struggle at that weight, after all both men are probably walking around much heavier than that, so higher limit while still being only a minor difference should benefit the cut rather than hinder performance on the night.


Might be worth a shot as I think he could win this, but at the odds I'm seeing it wouldn't be worth it for me. I usually don't take any bets under 4/1.

I'm a bit scared for the sport of boxing if he wins.

I am more scared how they influence on professional athletes. For example, I am a MMA fan. After such boxing exhibition fights, many ufc fighters started to ask for a greater pay cheque for their fights. They refuse to fight if they wont be paid hundred thounsands, while previously a solid fighter get 20-50k for the fight. Instead if dreaming of becoming a champ, they dream to fight this clowns. One fight against a clown brings them same money they would earn in a couple of years. If the UFC management agrees to pay their fighters more, that would mean they would have to find that money somewhere? Where can they be found? In a greater ticket and ppv price for example.

UFC does kinda stiff their athletes in multiple ways though. Most of them aren't paid much unless you're one of the big names and as the UFC is practically a monopoly they can do what they want regarding pay. They also have blanket deals with sponsors so all UFC fighters have to wear Venum clothing with the UFC sponsors on them like crypto.com and that stops athletes negotiating their own individual deals and it's those sorts of sponsorships that usually draw in the most money for fighters.

This is the first time he's squaring up against a real boxer who isn't retired.  Honestly, this is the make or break moment for Jake Paul.  Either he wins and proves that he can compete at a high level professionally in the boxing ring, or he loses to the younger brother of a prize fighter and everyone can say that this gimmick is behind us.  Personally, I'm a bit scared for the sport of boxing if he wins. 
I don't think Jake is actually going to go far in boxing, but there's hope in a lot of peoples mind that Tommy could go far, although I'm not one of those people. I think Tommy losing here hurts him a lot more than Jake Paul. Jake Paul is still relevant even if he loses, he'll pick up a few more celebrity past it fighters, and collect the money. However, if Tommy loses that's his career probably over.

I think most people are praying that the circus ends at this point, but as I've been quite vocal about; I really don't have a lot of confidence in Tommy doing the job, and I'm afraid these types of match ups, and the hyping up of Jake Paul will continue long after this fight.



I don't think Jake has his sights set on attaining world titles. He'll just keep collecting those huge bags as long as he can and they keep getting bigger with every fight. Jake just needs to make it though this fight without being embarrassed and he'll be fine. Tommy is the perfect next step in my opinion. He might not be the best boxer but he still is one and has that huge Fury name attached to him so it's a wise choice for Paul I think. It's not so dangerous for him but still gets him that clout of fighting a pro boxer without the huge risk of fighting someone who could KO him with one punch. It's a very interesting fight for me. Jake could be embarrassed and so could Fury. The fight going all the way or even Paul just putting in a decent performance is still going to be a win for him I think. If it's close they might even do a rematch and I'm sure both parties involved will love that.

Did anyone see the press conference? Was pretty shambolic and embarrassing. John Fury needs to sit these things out. He said Tommy would bend Jake's GF over after the fight haha. A bit rapey  Grin.
475  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: November 24, 2021, 01:36:13 PM
~snip

Tottenham just leveled against Leeds, hopefully they can now push for a win.

almost third of our pool had 2:1 as result for Tottenham - Leeds
and they won with this result

regarding the match, Leeds is worst than I thought, and Tottenham is not great as well, but match was open and there were a lot of chances for both teams

back to position 8, which is great, top5 is above expectation, trying to stay within 6-10 place range

Did you watch the game? I thought Leeds were by far the better team, especially in the first half and deserved a point. Leeds had the majority of possession and attacks. 60% possession in the first half. They pretty much had a b team out as well due to lots of injuries. A few players I'd never even heard of and it looked like a couple got their first starts. I did get the 2-1 score right though. Probably would have gone for 3-0 or something if I'd have seen the line up.

@LFC_Bitcoin, congrats, dude! 17 points after international break is solid result. You only managed to predict Norwich win - I guess this result is new manager effect.
For me it was good round too finally, managed to climb up by 7 positions to 31th. I hope that from now I will go up only. As said mutliple times - don't give up too early because few good rounds can improve your position significantly or bring yellow cap. And yeah, there is still 2/3 of season remaining.

17 points from that round is pretty impressive. I would have got the wooden spoon if it wasn't for me getting the correct score on the Leeds game.

Poch to Man Utd? 👀 https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/59372826

this could be done deal by the end of the week imo,, Poch wants to leave psg and Man utd always wanted him



Can he get out of his contract at PSG just like that though? It's usually hard to get out of them unless you're sacked and have lost the dressing room and fans. PSG are doing pretty well and have an 11 point buffer but that's to be expected.
476  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BitcoinNews.com's UEFA Champions League Football Preditor Pool Discussion thread on: November 24, 2021, 09:52:26 AM
Definitely surprised me that Chelsea won by such a big scoreline. We all knew they were big favorites but remember against Malmo all they could do was score 1 goal and it was a very lucky one too, whereas here they all finished chances well.

Other surprise which is not a real surprise is Barcelona drawing... which makes me worried but also okay at the same time since all they need to do is win their next 2 games.

Halab did well with the only slam point so far Smiley

Well I agree, but like Barcelona Juventus aren't the same team they used to be. If Chelsea keep playing like this I guess the PL will be there's this year. They're playing Man U on the weekend which could be interesting. I'm tempted to go with a large scoreline in that match with a home win as well but maybe United will be wanting to change their fortunes around now.

I watched most of the United game -- Villareal had over 60% possession, 7 corners to their 1, and just poor finishing in the final third to blame. Midfield was as bad if not worse as their other games in group, but everything changed after Bruno came on. Fred is not good, I doubt he'd even get a spot in mid table teams. I never liked his play, weak and fumbling.


I wanted them to lose just to make this round's last games more interesting. That, and to see Ronaldo's face when he doesn't even make it out of the CL group stages.
477  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BitcoinNews.com's UEFA Champions League Football Preditor Pool Discussion thread on: November 23, 2021, 05:37:09 PM
Man United V Villa Real game could be interesting. If Man U lose or draw and Atlanta win today it will certainly make the last game United play against Young Boys as they could be out. Ronaldo wouldn't be happy about that. With today's match being the first with Michael Carrick in charge I think anything could happen. Don't get the logic of sacking managers midseason when there's nobody else lined up especially when you're just going with someone with no previous managerial experience.

478  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Tommy Fury vs Jake Paul on: November 18, 2021, 10:15:28 AM
He did very well against Woodley and whilst obviously he wasn't a pro boxer Woodley isn't a bad one and has several KOs from punches. I think we could probably ask would Tommy even be a pro boxer if it wasn't for his family connections? I'm not sure if he would as even a mediocre fighter would probably be signed on the Fury name alone. It's like how the children of pro footballers also get shoe-horned in to teams. Some of them certainly deserve it but others probably would have never even made it to an academy if it wasn't for their father's connections. Tommy really needs to win this fight as if he doesn't he's always just going to be the little bro of Tyson riding on his coattails not to mention a laughing stock. 
I'll definitely agree with that, he did decent against Woodley. I mean I was hoping Woodley would've got the job done, but I was met with the same frustration as watching him in the UFC. Although, there was definitely a point in that boxing fight which was a little weird, he definitely caught Jake, and Jake fell onto the ropes which should technically be a knock down. Jake looked a little dazed at that point too, but did recover fairly well.

I thought Woodley would KO him so I was actually very surprised with Jake's performance as Woodly isn't a pushover and that's what makes me think he's got at least a chance against Fury, or at the very least Fury shouldn't go into this thinking he's going to be an easy match. The fact that I think anything can happen in this fight is what makes it enticing for me, that and if Fury loses how are his family going to react? I mean, I don't think they will literally disown him but they'll struggle to get behind him in future fights. Tyson is apparently going to be in his corner for the fight so that adds an extra dimension too.

It would be a circus but I'm sure they'd both make it one worth watching. I wonder if the sort of money is there for McGregor. I'm sure it's a big pay day for Tommy and Jake but they're still not on the same level as Connor or the Mayweather money. Then again, I'm sure Jake would fight McGregor for even 10% of the purse so I guess it could happen. We'll have to see what Connor's next moves are. His stock is going to continue to decline the longer he's out of the ring and even more so if he keeps losing. 
Yeah, I say it'll be a circus, but I guess that's one of the draws of boxing these days. The era is definitely changing, and boxing is becoming more entertainment outside the ring, than inside. Maybe, that is unfair, but I've definitely started to not watch as much boxing as I used too, though I'm probably an outlier, and this is partly because of MMA replacing it.

Yeah, if your Jake you fight Mcgregor whatever he offers.  Jake Paul walks out of that fight with sponsorships, and more exposure than he could ever ask for. He doesn't necessarily need the money from the fight.

Yeah. Jake is either going to need a win or at the very least give a very good performance if he wants to move up to the big names next. If he gets embarrassed I doubt many people will care who he fights next. If Jake does win this though I'm sure his next fight would be someone huge as there'll be a market for it and I think Jake would be all too eager to take a big fight like McGregor/Mayweather even though he knows he'll probably lose because he knows once he does his stock will drop like a rock. Regardless of who you are there's always something alluring about being 'undefeated' even though he's only got a few fights under his belt people will either want to see you lose that status or keep it going.
479  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Tommy Fury vs Jake Paul on: November 17, 2021, 04:35:52 PM
Why would these two guys actually fight ? Ok, it is clear that Tommy is here for money. Jake Paul sells lots of PPV, he know how to promote and has an army of teenagers to follow every step he make. But what Jake Paul wins from that fight ? Except money. Is Tommy Fury a huge star ? No. Is he really famous? Maybe he is famous to somebody, but for me he is an average fighter and not a really huge celebrity. Jake hopes that with this fight he will hype somehow on Tyson Fury name? Tyson could just ignore that fight, skip attending fighting event, ignore in social media.

Why does any boxer fight? Money. Tommy isn't really a huge star but he's the younger brother of one of the biggest and one of the best heavyweight boxers in the world so there's certainly a draw there. Both have quite big social media followings but Tommy is more of an up-and-commer in boxing terms and is more of a realty TV star over here in the UK but he's trying to break away from that. It's going to be both their biggest paydays so it makes sense to both of them. In fact, Tommy's last fight on the undercard of the Jake Paul fight was his biggest payday and Paul even forgoed some of his purse so the fighters on the undercard got more which was actually a respectable thing to do. Tommy thinks it's going to be easy money for him and it should be, but the pressure is certainly on him. Like I said above, I think it's going to be win-win for Jake Paul whatever the outcome just as long as he doesn't get knocked out in the first couple of rounds.
480  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: November 17, 2021, 12:23:55 PM
But, after a quick research I want to ask you, are you sure the predictions have something to do with AI? I can't find that info anywhere.  Undecided

If that's an AI as in a literal machine calculating the results with no human curation whatsoever (so this is not like Superbru's insights picks), then I don't think it's going to be very accurate, as it mostly looks at long term trends, not short term stuff like did someone get injured during training or how is the stadium atmosphere, etc.

If somebody had an AI that was accurate enough they wouldn't be letting others use it haha. They wouldn't need to. I'm sure if will get some games right but it takes the fun out of picking them yourselves.
That is probably just some algorithm looking trough the limited database and picking out the results. Certainly not worth to pay something for it but since it is free it can be used for those games where gut feeling leave us. Probably as good guess as any.

I mean you could probably do that yourself just by looking at the odds haha.

I'm sure Newcastle will probably have half a new squad in the upcoming transfer window. It's going to be interesting to see who they get. I'm sure players won't be clamouring to go there straight away so they'll have to build their squad up over a few seasons, consistently climb up the table and attract some big names. It's not like City flipped their fortunes around over night but as bigger players start to go to St James' Park more will likely follow.
What I'm really interested in seeing is what sort of players that will play for Newcastle, considering who they are owned by. I'm not going to dig into the political stuff here too much, but I imagine not every top player will want to go there. For example, and this is just an example since I could never imagine his even being entertained, but take Salah at Liverpool for example. Currently, there's a few issues surrounding his contract, would Newcastle be a team that you could realistically see Salah playing for, due to the political issues, I don't think I ever could even if they did become a top team.

Plus, I think plenty of other players won't want too either. I guess it depends on their personal morals, as well as how much they value money. Obviously, like you say Manchester City took many years to build up, though they did build up pretty quickly.

I doubt they really care. Man City is owned by Abu Dhabi United Group which is part owned by Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan a member of the Saudi Royal family. It's all a load of hypocrisy anyway. I'm sure most football clubs owners are unscrupulous or have ties to dodgy stuff. Mike Ashley was hardly a well respected businessman and was pretty exploitative of workers but that's just business I guess. The UK government sells arms to the Saudi's and they don't seem to mind blowing civilians up themselves but every footballer still pays their taxes. I don't think it's morals that will get in the way and would think it would be quite unfair if it did but they will certainly have their detractors who will surely whine about this sort of stuff. I think the biggest hurdle will be getting that first star player signing. It's going to have to be a lot of money to even get them as they're still going to be playing for a mediocre side until they sign more players.
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