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461  Other / Off-topic / League of Legends Thread on: July 05, 2015, 03:20:36 AM
Feel free to come on in and post your IGN, rant about the Katarina that just facerolled your team into a penta, talk builds, all that fun stuff Cheesy

I'll start:

IGN: Cooldgamer
Rank: Bronze 3
Mains: Varus, Kat, Cait, Ahri
462  Other / Politics & Society / Re: LGBT on: July 04, 2015, 01:31:24 PM
FUCKLGBT
You know you want to

463  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christian bakers fined $135,000 for refusing to make wedding cake for lesbians on: July 03, 2015, 05:07:25 PM
Furthermore even if you think homosexuality should be a protected class, you you really honestly believe the supposed hardship placed on this lesbian couple was so severe that the baker should pay $135,000, a sum that would be sure to destroy the livelihoods of almost anyone? Is the punishment proportional to the supposed crime? I don't think so. I believe this is way beyond insane.
I'm more than happy to see bigotry come at such a high cost to the ignorant ones who practice it. Bigotry kills. Hate kills.

So you think gays struggle as much for acceptance as blacks do?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonewall_riots

I think that's a fruitless and fucked up question to ask. In both cases, less so each passing day as Christianity slowly dies in America.

Yeah, I am aware you have no sense of justice or proportional punishment and would gladly exterminate all those whom dare not fit within your imaginary utopian social construct. This is not bigotry, this is a business owner exercising their right to choose who they contract with. It is not like they sat down at a diner and they refused to serve them a meal. Making a wedding cake is a LOT of work, and some people might find being forced to use their craft to support something they find offensive under threat of hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines pretty excessive, imposing, and intolerant of their own religious rights and their rights as a business owner. Making homosexuality as a protected class is simply not something that can be enforced justly or equitably with any degree of certainty.

People in the past who denied services to people based on their race did not do so on the basis of religion, they did it based on racism. There is no constitutional right to racism in the USA, but there is that right for religion. This kind of thing is a purposely constructed abuse of the law and a tale of victim hood designed to destroy those who practice their faith.


Interesting. A riot happened once. That proves what? I don't know if that compares to hundreds of years of slavery and institutionalized oppression. Also remind me when the hundreds of years of gay slavery happened.

Why is it a fruitless question? Because it points out your flippant characterization of the struggle of gays against homophobia being exactly the same as the struggle of blacks against racism? You are the one that made the comparison, why is it an invalid comparison now when I point out the inconsistencies under your own example? Also who said anything about Christianity? You are showing your bias and hatred for a particular group of religious peoples. I believe all religious peoples should be free to practice their faith as long as they are not violating the rights of others. Refusing to bake a cake for someone does not qualify as violating someone's rights in my book.



Having a business owner be able to discriminate based on religion is a tough topic for sure.  If we lived in a world where you could go next door to the Christian baker and get a cake made for anybody, I really would have no problem with it.  However, this simply isn't the case.  Coming from the deep south, the vast majority of the people here are anti-LGBT and would turn you away in a heartbeat if they had the option to.  Is it really okay for somebody to have to drive hours just to get a service they want to pay for simply because they live a different lifestyle than the service provider?

Moreso, people won't be happy if it's just marriage based services, and even if they were it would be hard to figure out where the line is drawn.  Is it okay to not allow a gay couple to stay at your motel on their honeymoon because of your beliefs?  If I claimed to be a Humanist and refused to serve anti-gay people on my religious basis, would that be okay?  While it wouldn't be possible to do that since you'd have no idea, you get the point I'm trying to make.

Religion shouldn't have any basis in a publicly owned business.  You're welcome to donate it's money to whatever causes you want, welcome to pray every day before starting work and take off early to go to church.  However, your rights end where another person's right to be served begins.
464  Other / Politics & Society / Re: LGBT on: July 03, 2015, 06:35:00 AM
i understand what you are saying.

but if the school is asking the community how they feel about this being taught, and the community says we don't want it taught, and they go ahead and plan to teach it despite the communities disapproval......

i do consider that being shoved down their throat.
While it does seem a bit tacky to do it that way (if that's the word for it), the alternative would have been to just go ahead and implement it, and then parents would have said they never got asked for input.  Schools are a place to educate, not re-enforce the beliefs of the parents.  If you want to do that, homeschool or send them to a private religious one.  

The negatives to teaching it aren't really there except for exposing teens to lifestyles beyond what they may believe to be moral, the positives are less STD's, possibly less suicides, getting to ask questions before making a bad mistake...  
465  Other / Politics & Society / Re: UK authorities arrest 15-year-old girl on suspicion of joining ISIS on: July 03, 2015, 06:27:51 AM
This is really disturbing...  Since she's not 18 we don't know all the details, but for all we know she wasn't even islamic to start with.  Teens really want to be a part of something, and when these groups make it seem like they can be some really bad decisions end up being made. 

Hell, something similar happened just recently with a teen giving them advice on using BTC.
466  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A Warning from Canada: Same-Sex Marriage Erodes Fundamental Rights on: July 03, 2015, 06:14:51 AM
Why is it you two are so against gay marriage like we are in the 1800s?
This is the 21st century, and the vast majority of the people on earth still opposes perversities such as faggot sex, beastiality and pedophilia.
Did you really just put 2 consenting adults doing something on the same level as with a child or an animal?  Wooow...

Annnyway, onto the OP article


We have great compassion for people who struggle with their sexuality and gender identity—not animosity. And we love our parents. Yet, when we go public with our stories, we often face ostracism, silencing, and threats.

That seems like an asshole problem, not a gay marriage one

In Canada, freedoms of speech, press, religion, and association have suffered greatly due to government pressure. The debate over same-sex marriage that is taking place in the United States could not legally exist in Canada today. Because of legal restrictions on speech, if you say or write anything considered “homophobic” (including, by definition, anything questioning same-sex marriage), you could face discipline, termination of employment, or prosecution by the government.


Why do police prosecute speech under the guise of eliminating “hate speech” when there are existing legal remedies and criminal protections against slander, defamation, threats, and assault that equally apply to all Americans? Hate-crime-like policies using the terms “sexual orientation” and “gender identity” create unequal protections in law, whereby protected groups receive more legal protection than other groups.

No argument here, people should be able to say what they want short of inciting violence.  However, if you attack somebody and it's motivated by that it doesn't seem unreasonable to provide the same protections as an attack based on religion, race, etc...  Whether those laws should exist or not, if we're punishing motivated crimes heavier then at least include them.

Having witnessed how mob hysteria in Indiana caused the legislature to back-track on a Religious Freedom Restoration Act, many Americans are beginning to understand that some activists on the Left want to usher in state control over every institution and freedom. In this scheme, personal autonomy and freedom of expression become nothing more than pipe dreams, and children become commodified.

The 'mob hysteria' was over the potential to turn people away from a public business based on their lifestyle.  If you run a business, you're open to everybody.  It's not a church.  It was also quite civilized.  Nobody was rioting in the streets, just protesting the state.

Children are not commodities that can be justifiably severed from their natural parentage and traded between unrelated adults. Children in same-sex households will often deny their grief and pretend they don’t miss a biological parent, feeling pressured to speak positively due to the politics surrounding LGBT households. However, when children lose either of their biological parents because of death, divorce, adoption, or artificial reproductive technology, they experience a painful void. It is the same for us when our gay parent brings his or her same-sex partner(s) into our lives. Their partner(s) can never replace our missing biological parent.

The vast majority of same-sex couples adopt their children.  It's growing up in a loving family vs in a state care facility to raise as many as possible.  Nevermind the fact that they're not worse off than the general population.  The biggest issue honestly seems like it would be people that harass them over it

Over and over, we are told that “permitting same-sex couples access to the designation of marriage will not deprive anyone of any rights.” That is a lie.

When same-sex marriage was legalized in Canada in 2005, parenting was immediately redefined. Canada’s gay marriage law, Bill C-38, included a provision to erase the term “natural parent” and replace it across the board with gender-neutral “legal parent” in federal law. Now all children only have “legal parents,” as defined by the state. By legally erasing biological parenthood in this way, the state ignores children’s foremost right: their immutable, intrinsic yearning to know and be raised by their own biological parents.

That's not a gay marriage issue, that's a shitty law issue.  You can easily have one without the other.

Mothers and fathers bring unique and complementary gifts to their children. Contrary to the logic of same-sex marriage, the gender of parents matters for the healthy development of children. We know, for example, that the majority of incarcerated men did not have their fathers in the home. Fathers by their nature secure identity, instill direction, provide discipline, boundaries, and risk-taking adventures, and set lifelong examples for children. But fathers cannot nurture children in the womb or give birth to and breast-feed babies. Mothers nurture children in unique and beneficial ways that cannot be duplicated by fathers.


It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that men and women are anatomically, biologically, physiologically, psychologically, hormonally, and neurologically different from each other. These unique differences provide lifelong benefits to children that cannot be duplicated by same-gender “legal” parents acting out different gender roles or attempting to substitute for the missing male or female role model in the home.

So should we make every couple take a personality test to make sure the father isn't feminine and soft, and the mother isn't harsh and tough?  Having only one parent can make you worse off, but that's as much of it putting you in worse economic circumstances, more time the children are alone because of work, the knowledge of having a parent in jail in some cases....

Just for fun, here's yet another study showing children of same-sex couples aren't worse off.  The author of this is making a lot of claims without anything to back it up.

In Canada, it is considered discriminatory to say that marriage is between a man and a woman or that every child should know and be raised by his or her biological married parents. It is not just politically incorrect in Canada to say so; you can be saddled with tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees, fined, and forced to take sensitivity training.
Anyone who is offended by something you have said or written can make a complaint to the Human Rights Commissions and Tribunals. In Canada, these organizations police speech, penalizing citizens for any expression deemed in opposition to particular sexual behaviors or protected groups identified under “sexual orientation.” It takes only one complaint against a person to be brought before the tribunal, costing the defendant tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees. The commissions have the power to enter private residences and remove all items pertinent to their investigations, checking for hate speech.


The plaintiff making the complaint has his legal fees completely paid for by the government. Not so the defendant. Even if the defendant is found innocent, he cannot recover his legal costs. If he is found guilty, he must pay fines to the person(s) who brought forth the complaint.

You can have gay marriage and still keep freedom of speech.  This sounds like a system that really could use some adjustment, but the answer isn't just to toss gay marriage out entirely because we went too far with censorship.

If your beliefs, values, and political opinions are different from the state’s, you risk losing your professional license, job, or business, and even your children. Look no further than the Lev Tahor Sect, an Orthodox Jewish sect. Many members, who had been involved in a bitter custody battle with child protection services, began leaving Chatham, Ontario, for Guatemala in March 2014, to escape prosecution for their religious faith, which conflicted with the Province’s guidelines for religious education. Of the two hundred sect members, only half a dozen families remain in Chatham.


Parents can expect state interference when it comes to moral values, parenting, and education—and not just in school. The state has access into your home to supervise you as the parent, to judge your suitability. And if the state doesn’t like what you are teaching your children, the state will attempt to remove them from your home.
Teachers cannot make comments in their social networks, write letters to editors, publicly debate, or vote according to their own conscience on their own time. They can be disciplined or lose any chance of tenure. They can be required at a bureaucrat’s whim to take re-education classes or sensitivity training, or be fired for thinking politically incorrect thoughts.
If you're a public business you need to be open to all.  The government shouldn't touch religion, or what's being taught in the home as long as it isn't 'If you see a gay guy, punch him for god'.  Teachers can say whatever they want on private social networks (or writing to an editor, who does that now though?).  However, if you're doing it publicly it could be seen as representing the view of the school.  I really doubt a teacher would get anything besides a warning unless it was wishing violence or something.  As for voting, who is even going to know how you vote?

When same-sex marriage was created in Canada, gender-neutral language became legally mandated. Newspeak proclaims that it is discriminatory to assume a human being is male or female, or heterosexual. So, to be inclusive, special non-gender-specific language is being used in media, government, workplaces, and especially schools to avoid appearing ignorant, homophobic, or discriminatory. A special curriculum is being used in many schools to teach students how to use proper gender-neutral language. Unbeknownst to many parents, use of gender terms to describe husband and wife, father and mother, Mother’s Day and Father’s Day, and “he” and “she” is being steadily eradicated in Canadian schools.

You're telling me there's a class on how to not call a dude a dude?  I call bullshit on this part.  Using language that includes everyone isn't wrong if you're just trying to, well, refer to everyone.

Wedding planners, rental halls, bed and breakfast owners, florists, photographers, and bakers have already seen their freedoms eroded, conscience rights ignored, and religious freedoms trampled in Canada. But this is not just about the wedding industry. Anybody who owns a business may not legally permit his or her conscience to inform business practices or decisions if those decisions are not in line with the tribunals’ decisions and the government’s sexual orientation and gender identity non-discrimination laws. In the end, this means that the state basically dictates whether and how citizens may express themselves.

The right to discriminate as a business is not a right.  If you're open, you're open to all.  I live in the deep south, and given the choice there would be a toooon of places that would turn away gay people.  You shouldn't have to look all around to find somewhere to take your money, or call ahead to make sure a business is 'gay-friendly' any more than if it's black-friendly.  

Freedom to assemble and speak freely about man-woman marriage, family, and sexuality is now restricted. Most faith communities have become “politically correct” to avoid fines and loss of charitable status. Canadian media are restricted by the Canadian Radio, Television, and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC), which is similar to the FCC. If the media air anything considered discriminatory, broadcasting licenses can be revoked, and “human rights bodies” can charge fines and restrict future airings.


An example of legally curtailed speech regarding homosexuality in Canada involves the case of Bill Whatcott, who was arrested for hate speech in April 2014 after distributing pamphlets that were critical of homosexuality. Whether or not you agree with what he says, you should be aghast at this state-sanctioned gagging. Books, DVDs, and other materials can also be confiscated at the Canadian border if the materials are deemed “hateful.”

Soooo let them keep talking.  I have no problem with crazies like Pat Robertson rambling on TV about the gays trying to infect people with AIDS rings.  However, the majority of private channels are probably going to not want to cause controversy like that, and they have a right to govern what's on.  Soon enough nobody will want to just because it makes you look like an asshole.

Nothing against handing stuff out that says you're going to hell.  I had some random Christian give me a pamphlet on "Hell-bound and Who Cares" chilling at my motel on vacation.  Wasn't even doing anything wrong, just look crazy I guess.  People should just laugh that stuff off.




tl;dr:  Say what you want, don't discriminate as a business, let people get married.  Kids aren't worse off.
467  Other / Politics & Society / Re: LGBT on: July 03, 2015, 05:11:12 AM
VA School Board Votes To Teach ‘Gender Identity’ In Seventh Grade
*snip*
Sex-ed is just a part of school, what exactly is wrong with teaching about trans/gay stuff factually?  It's not like the whole school year is going to be filled with it, but when it's relevant it should not be an avoided subject.  Some of these students may grow up to be LGBT, and we shouldn't withhold the information from them.  Gay people do have a higher STD risk, and that can be avoided with education.  Considering that ~50% of trans people attempt suicide sometime in their life, it's not a half bad idea to at least be like "Hey, this is a thing, don't try to hang yourself because you feel this way".  It's not being shoved down their throats, they're being educated just like they are about other sex concepts, hence the whole point of sex ed.

This isn't kindergarten, these are teenagers.  They shouldn't be shielded from the world.

it's shoved in your face and your choice of being exposed to it is being taken away. this is my problem with it.

Nobody is making you be LGBT.  You don't even have to accept their life choices personally, but you can't ask to not be exposed to how people live unless you just want to stay home all day.  Pride parades are a fucking awful thing though, I really don't know why the community thinks they're a good idea...
468  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Free speech just took a major hit here in the US! Is Bitcoin next? on: June 26, 2015, 07:19:19 PM
Any store can sell the confederate flag if they want to, just not on eBay.  While I don't exactly agree with the new policy, they are a private business and have the right to do whatever they want.  Vote with your dollar and buy somewhere else.
469  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Hosted mining space? Does anyone do it? on: June 25, 2015, 09:56:57 AM
1: If you have a life, it won't be profitable.  You have to be able to spend time troubleshooting, reboot when something happens, setup/takedown/sell, impliment cooling...  It's a lot of work.  Not to mention, if you're away for a few days and a machine goes down, there goes a ton of your profit.  God forbid a piece of networking gear goes out

2: If you're going large scale, you need to think about the possibility of something going wrong.  You're not a datacenter with fire suppression, and you're working with a ton of power.  Spoondolies can easily happen to your house.  Insurance would negate any profit

3: You're a residential house using a ton of power.  This could easily be you

4: Power for the machines =/= power you'll use.  AC is expensive both to implement and run

5: Power strips to take advantage of your full capacity will cost a lot

6: If power goes out you're screwed.  Got a storm?  There goes your profit.  Same goes for internet.

Enjoy mining yourself, fill the room to your heart's content.  Don't try to make it into a business
470  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★★ KoreCoin v2.0 ★★ [KORE]New ERA - VOIP WALLET -100% ANON - 100% PoS - PoBAnon on: June 25, 2015, 09:40:00 AM
By request of Mikemike, the escrow coins are now staking
471  Other / Meta / Re: should luke-jr be on Default Trust? on: June 23, 2015, 08:54:45 AM
I am changing my rating to a neutral.  I believe that he should not be on Default Trust, as his blacklist episode worked against the general consensus of the BTC community.  His actions worked against the general idea of decentralization (nobody wanted the blacklist), and I left feedback to represent this.  

It is not established that the majority of people using it did not want it, nor that the majority of Gentoo users do not want it.
It is also not established that the majority of people who actually understand it (as opposed to reading lies such as the first quote) do not want it.

Has anybody ever said they did want a blacklist?  We're fighting over the block size and you made an assumption as big as blocking transactions from certain sources on a network that is supposed to be completely free.

While it is a crappy attempt at censorship, it still meets the definition.  If everybody was using this blacklist, the network would block transactions from those sources.

This isn't your first time doing things without people wanting it.  You changed the definition of a paper wallet to something besides the generally agreed definition, put prayers in the blockchain, and added tonal to the BTC wiki (seriously, who uses that?)



This also seems like a good time to point out the glaring flaw in his trust.  He was at +100 for a single rating with 1,000 BTC risked.  This was for creating code.

However, the developers of armory or any of the 'lite' wallets have nothing of the type.  The general concensus is that you should be rated on the amount paid in exchange for the code, not how much that was on the system it ran on.  I'm guessing what he made was open source, so it could have been examined to see that nothing bad was in there, but instead gmaxwell didn't do so and rated him for his lax security.
472  Other / Off-topic / Re: Pastor Creflo Dollar buys $65 000 000 jet on: June 06, 2015, 09:01:58 PM


The obvious point is that Cash-flow read that Matthew passage. That's exactly why he bought the plane!!!  Now, he isn't rich anymore. Think of what it costs to fuel and fly that thing! I don't know what "Creflo" means, but "Cash-flow isn't necessarily rich.

Smiley
He's not following the bible if he's spending the money on luxury instead of necessity.

Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."  (Matthew 19:21)

http://www.inquisitr.com/2104957/creflo-dollars-80-million-per-year-church-jets-cars-buckhead-condo-new-york-georgia-homes-buzz-pastor-wont-reveal-earnings/
473  Other / Off-topic / Re: Pastor Creflo Dollar buys $65 000 000 jet on: June 06, 2015, 08:24:26 PM
Well of course (Watch all the forum folks who will ... about this, my post.).

Jesus would rather that people used the Holy Spirit to get around, like Philip, who talked to the Ethiopian eunuch, in The Acts of the Apostles. However, even the Bible says that Jesus had trouble doing miracles at times because of the unbelief of the people around Him. So, what can you expect about somebody like Cash-flow Dollar?

Look. The guy is preaching Jesus Christ and Him crucified, for the salvation of souls. And even if not all of Cash-flow's doctrine is quite pure, he is still preaching salvation, and reaching people, and saving souls. With DHS and the TSA what they are these days, Cash-flow needs a way to get around without so much government interference, and popularity intrusion by fans.

The money itself? I can tell you, from the little bit of "preaching" that I have done in this forum, preaching Jesus really works. While I haven't so much as received a raise at work (that wouldn't have come anyway), my popularity is soaring, and funds are coming in from other sources, and I am receiving blessings in other ways.

The question always is one of sincerity. Is Cash-flow sincere about what he preaches? And of course... AM I? Jesus says that if we aren't sincere, in the judgment, we will be rejected, even if we do many miracles. But Saint Paul has the answer when he says in Philippians,
Quote
But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached.

So, yes! What do you think? A forum like this one is like a church. Many people here believe. Others don't. Still others are undecided. With Saint Paul I say, "But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached."

Smiley

The bible says rich men are not going to get into heaven (Matthew 19:24).  If he was truly preaching the word of your god, wouldn't the money have been put to much better use by donating it to charity?  Imagine how much food for the homeless 65 million could buy.  Airport security is a pain, but an extra hour or two saved is no reason that you need a private jet, it's not like security is kicking out Christians or taking his bibles, just that persecution complex you guys love to use. 



Even if this guy did need private travel for one reason or another, 65 million is way more than necessary.  He could have gotten out for under 5 million (source), but instead he chooses to go all out for luxury.

474  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: May 08, 2015, 04:05:26 AM
Here's another statement the 'trolls' proved false, he just bullshits in the face of MC denying it directly

475  Other / Off-topic / Re: A Christian's response to the Evil found in the Bible on: May 08, 2015, 01:08:36 AM
They're mentally ill, there is no way around it.  At least they believe their god will take care of it so they don't try to do it themselves, and it gives them /some/ sort of morals.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/25/phil-robertson-atheist-rape_n_6936662.html

476  Economy / Digital goods / Re: 40% Gopro employee discount! on: April 27, 2015, 09:01:38 AM
I find it odd that this account is made so shortly after this thread failed because of the user's low feedback.  

Taking escrow doesn't always mean a scam, this user managed to rip a few people off while accepting it.

Gopros have a strict minimum resale value, and I doubt anybody would risk a job for such a low amount unless the discount was not obtained legitimately, as in the case of the first thread.  
477  Economy / Goods / Re: Adult Plastic Pants on: April 27, 2015, 08:49:30 AM
It's light-hearted but serious. I sell incontinence supplies and thought I'd have a bit of fun and maybe help a few folks.


And yes, I'll be more than glad to "drop ship" a pair to anyone you like, and if requested I can make it VERY clear what the contents of the package is Smiley
You may have found the next glitter bombing.  Quick, grab it before it's too late!

478  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: problem on localbitcoins on: April 27, 2015, 08:46:03 AM
Is it possible to sign from android wallet?
I sent them an ads lad of screenshots of my wallet and the block chain.. timestamps match as well as amounts and addresses...I just really need those fucking coins back....God DAMNIT this will teach me to be more careful...
Depends on the wallet.  If you're using Mycellum it shouldn't be a problem, otherwise you may need to import it to a desktop wallet

479  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: problem on localbitcoins on: April 27, 2015, 08:32:10 AM
https://blockchain.info/address/1H2TP6CnJ32r6ZKEFqDf43VRbFs1AsQveQ



See... I sent them 0.2 and 0.74 by mistake.. but they paid me 0.94 I mistakenly put in their address when I meant to paste my friends address
You may get lucky if you contact their support fast enough.  No idea how their backend works, but you may have ended up depositing it to an address owned by somebody else.  Hopefully it's somebody that hasn't logged in for a while, and they'll give the coins back after you prove you own the address by signing a message from it.

https://localbitcoins.com/support
480  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Long-Term Difficulty Speculation Thread on: April 27, 2015, 02:30:16 AM
I don't think we're going to be seeing too much of a jump soon, even when next-gen miners come out.  For people to upgrade it has to be somewhat worth the investment, and at the current price I just don't see that happening.  Not much big investment going into mining right now, so we're not going to be seeing the kinds of increases that we did when massive farms were coming online.  We may even see it go down as some of those farms close down operations and sell the space/use it for different things

Until we have another price bubble, we won't have one for difficulty either.
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