No, it is not.  If everything complex required a creator than your god would also have to have one, and it's creator have one....  By your logic it would be impossible for a creator to exist because it gets in a infinite loop of needing creators.

Your example of a computer needing code really doesn't work here, as the first organisms didn't have any at all.  Over time evolution made them grow in complexity by making the ones that did thrive, so really it's more like self-patching code by finding out what does and doesn't work.

Check out this video, it does a pretty good job of covering it

*facedesk*

All you have is the fine-tuned universe fallacy, which I've gone over so many times.  Complexity is not proof for a creator

No scientific evidence so far has pointed to anything besides evolution.  You can't just take one piece of evidence and say this doesn't prove everything, therefor it was gawd.  You have to look at everything we have discovered so far, and the more we find out the more we find that backs the theory of evolution.

You cannot use something written in the bible as evidence of the bible being impossible.  Much of the bible could have been fabricated by the authors, and stories being passed down from generation to generation explain the theme being the same.  Historical impact means nothing, Greek mythology had a huge one and you think that isn't real.  This thread is about science, you cannot use anything in the bible to prove the bible, because nobody is able to prove the accuracy of what was written.  

I'm losing braincells responding, but I'll keep doing it in hopes you might learn something.  

First, there is lots/LOTS/LOTS of evidence for evolution.  You said it is 'just a theory', but a scientific theory does not mean the same thing as the normal usage of the word.  Pretty much all of the research in the field so far has pointed to evolution as what has happened.  We can observe it happening before our eyes in labs on small scales, anybody that denies evolution is just flat out stupid.  Same goes for the big bang and a extremely old universe, everything we have so far points to it (although not as definitively for those, but a million times more than evidence that supports the bible: none).  Scientists don't agree with you, you're delusional.

The existence of the bible is impossible?  There is something that kept words from being written down?  Dunno what you're smoking, but get me some of it

*Facepalm*  

Again, you absolutely MUST distinguish between science as a method and science a body of evidence.  This is an elementary distinction that, for some reason, you're having an extraordinarily difficult time picking up on.  

There is no relevant response I can make until you understand this distinction.  Your misunderstanding of this distinction begins with your first sentence, thus rendering everything that follows as an abysmal understanding of scientific progress and how it compares to the pervasiveness of the Bible.

Edit:  A note about evidence:  Evidence simply means "that which is apparent."  When you go to the Bible for evidence, what "is apparent" is that there is a page with words on it.  That is it.  Seriously, that's where the buck stops, and you need to turn the authority over to scientists (e.g. anthropologists) to use the Scientific Method to search for additional evidence to support the Bible.  

Using the Bible in and of itself as evidence holds the same weight as grabbing Humpty Dumpty and using it as evidence.  At this point, it seems your understanding is worse than I thought, because you don't even know what evidence means.  That's pretty shocking, sorry to say.

I need to try something again.. it's nothing more than a stupid way of viewing thing's, but once understood, youd understand why everytime I attempt to 'write' this stupid way of viewing thing's, it never makes much sense, for it does..

How I figured it all out:

1. Take a 12v battery. Without connecting it to any test equipment, or anything that requires power, prove it has 'life'. Positive and Negative exist in this inanimate object.. touch each terminal with a spanner, you will 'see' the spark of life, which is nothing more than positive and negative reacting to being directly connected to each other. Henceforth you know this battery has 'life'.

2. I once learned that in hebrew, they dont use the number 0, for it cannot add, subtract, devide etc, in fact, it does not exist. Yet it does, if you know WHEN to use it.. for instance, we could go ..7, 8, 9, 11, but MUST go ..7, 8, 9, 10.. 11 etc.. hence, 10 does not exist in hebrew, for it is only 1. Forgive my flawed logic, but it will make sense in the end.

3. How does the pyramid of gizeh relate to time? Well, Let's start with digging half the height.. why? Because you 'want' to be in the underground chamber (that lead's you to light). Half of 480 feet (gonna replace feet with 'unit' (of measuremeant)) is 240.. Can you see yet?

4. If I did not live in the UK, I would never have figured it out. For here, a car runs on 12v. Double the power is required for trucks etc.. 24v. I knew this for years, but never knew the hebrew drop the zero (at the time), me, What I noticed, was that to times 12 by 100, we get the third power scource, 240v, for the home.

Year's later, I noticed that hebrew's dropped the zero, and I thought.. wow..

So I go back to gizeh, and think, ok, here we have a structure 48 unit's in height. We are to 'dig' half the height, which would be 24 unit's. Indeed, this is how the underground chamber was discovered, I mean, here's these first explorer's for years, standing at the granite plug, thinking, 'how will we get passed that?' One would think, let's just dig under it, until we get to other side.. the safety conscious, however, would dig OVER, for fear of plug squashing them, get it yet? NO? They knew their intentions were to find this underground chamber, not what was at the other side of said plug. They just kept digging DOWN, until they found, exactly what was stated in the emerald tablet's. This means there is indeed a circular passage, running top to bottom of each pyramd, further evidenced by the fact that neither king or queen's chamber, take up any of the CENTER of ANY pyramid, (they are indeed slightly off center.. In fact, the entrance to the king's chamber takes a kind of 'roundabout' way around said center ) which it is reasonably safe to say, is because there IS something else, that we cant see yet, or is denied us. The crazy thing is, that there was apparently a spaceship approx 24 units beneath the image. Hence why they dug DOWN. Hence my quest.

So after doing math after math, I knew I'd never figure it unless I got to really know time. I thought to myself, 'what if the numbers involved, in the height, were hours?' Then it all fell into place. Keep in mind, WHEN to drop the 0. And let's introduce knowing when to double what you 'see'.. even if it is.. zero.

The killer for most folks today, is NOT knowing that when the pyramid's/stonehenge (to name a few) were designed and built, the circle had 370 degree's. You believe a circle has 360 degree's. This is why no-one can make sense of any megalithic structure. The last supper is an image of the constellations, and I did mention earlier, what the 13th constellation is. By dropping the zero, we get 37, (that which we know, but cannot prove) and by accepting this, all fall's into place. You see, The 72 TARO cards, the origional deck of cards, (as replaced with the 52 pack) each represent a degree of sky. How is this done?

It take's the sun 72 day's to traverse 1 degree of the 26.000 year cycle granted to each constellation. Double it. You now have the scource of the 144 (whomever will be saved, this is more likely those born under a certain constelation..). There are 72 names of god in hebrew. There 'name's' = 216, the holly of hollies.. Go.

The egyptian callender has 361 days, and 5 'epagonomal?' days. (hope I used correct word/spelling)

Derived by 26000 devided by 72. Answer = 361, with 5 left over for 'forgiving' or cancellation of debt etc.. today it is christmas.

Using todays math?

Devide 26.000 by 216. Answer?

0.

Devide 26.000 by 72? Answer?

0.

Devide 26.000 by 144? Answer?

0.

All I have done here is try to show an alternative way of viewing math, before we got educated in it, before pi existed as we know it today. This taught me the light of all wisdom, Only then did I circle a square using maths, in order to reckon the number of the beast.. A short sharp wake ye up to why I say, WE know nowt.

26.000 is less than 26000. The pyramid's are made of solid rock, 'ENCASED' in stone blocks. How DID they get the granite inside the pyramid using spaces far too small to get the granite in? They grew it. (Granite = crystal, that can be 'grown'). Why a height of 48 hours? (Never thought of that, did ya?) To show what equal's 2 days. Based on this, everything is doubled. For instance, should we wish to use the pyramid to worship the moon, we would assume that every TWO weeks, (or 14 day's) there is no moon, and for the next two, there is, With DOUBLE the light of the night.

Every 72 days, there are '5' (atlantean sacred number = points of pyramid) period's of dark and light, 14 days of dark, and 14 days of the light of the moon. And 5 x 72 is not only the degree's of my avatar, but how I just showed you how to 'circle' a pyramid, and WHERE the NEW perimeter of a circle of 360 degree's origionated from.

Have a nice day

For those with eye's to see..

JaBaalOn, aka the TETRAGRAMMATON, is akin to worshipping the moon. The reason for this is the 'halo' or gold orb behind most image's of Hiram Abiff.. oop's, Jesus Christ. You see, To see the light on the moons surface, is to see TOMORROW's light before it happens, for the light of the moon is the light of the coming day, this is the TRUE definition of the Sun behind the Son.

Fin.

Proof exists in the reality experienced by those who experience the proof, the rest is conjecture.

For the 100th time, a complex universe does not prove a god.  Your god is fucked if he doesn't care about what you actually do and only if you believe in his son.

Drivel, fuckin drivel.. I've already provided the proof COUNTLESS times, you, have quoted your book, which, by admission of many of it's reader's, is dangerous. It's not the book in itself that is dangerous, it's the games played by it's followers (you), who are killing the planet in HIS name, be that what you want. You are as guilty of bombing what-ever country as you are for shooting kids in school, for it's the only excuse you mind fucks can come out with in order to excuse yourself from the blame you place, not on everyone else, but on YOUR CHOICE OF god, in his name.. you know nowt but a sick twisted book. Keep it..

This thread is about scientific evidence, not getting all preachy about how god loves me.  I actually was brought up in a very religious home and learned firsthand all the damage that religion can do.  I'm not going to throw the facts to the wind just so I can think my life has a life after this one and (re)join a cult

Thanks for proving I was right not wasting an hour on him.  The so called man footprints were debunked a long time ago. http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/paluxy.html

Science has made a amazing case for evolution over and over and over.  There is a reason only the occasional nutjob like him thinks he can disprove it.

Thanks for proving I was right not wasting an hour on him.  The so called man footprints were debunked a long time ago. http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/paluxy.html

Science has made a amazing case for evolution over and over and over.  There is a reason only the occasional nutjob like him thinks he can disprove it.