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821  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: October 02, 2014, 10:07:38 PM
So Dicksperiment, any proof of those 50btc you own?   Roll Eyes

Yeah, Decky. Take Vod on his honor, and send him the bitcoins. He'll send 'em back if he loses.   Grin
He asked him to sign the address, not send him the coins

On topic: no matter how much you guys debate how entropy works, it still doesn't prove there is a god.  Seems to be the latest buzzword for trying to disprove evolution, even though scientists have already debunked that idea.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/thermo.html
822  Economy / Auctions / [AUCTION] x1 Antminer S2 and x3 Antminer S3 with Power Supply on: October 02, 2014, 07:27:22 PM
Starting price: .2 for the S2, .5 for the S3's

Shipping: .24 for the S2, .32 S3's

Bidding Increments: .01

End time: Sunday 11:59 PM EST

Details: All of these have been used for a few months and are working great.  The S3's come with a EVGA 1300 gold power supply that can easily handle them all.  Shipping is done by UPS ground, I can see about combined shipping if you want to buy them both.  Ships out within 2 business days of getting payment.  The S2 is the most recent batch with the intake hole for the power supply and internals that don't fall apart during shipping Wink

Pics coming up soon
823  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: October 02, 2014, 06:09:56 PM

Failing that, delete my account, for I'm not here to sit with losers.

The "ignore" button is always an option to avoid this.  Wink

Yeah, I tried that, but if I had ignored him, I would not have been given external links that pointed out that I am not the only one that is raging that this guy is still attacking and scamming.. so un-ignoring, in my opinion, and pardon the pun, was a necessary evil.. Just a shame he made a mess of our lovely thread..
What is your response to that scientific evidence I posed?
That it is incorrect.  The second law of thermodynamics does not disprove evolution
824  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: WTB BTC with PayPal Cash Card(similar to MoneyPak) on: October 01, 2014, 07:14:58 PM
Hey,

I know I'm a bit of a "newbie" here on the forum but I've been more of a lurker than anything and not posting. I want to know if anyone is interested in selling BTC for PayPal Cash cards. They're similar to those MoneyPaks and I've actually used them to load my PayPal account up when I had some cash. Since I need to start somewhere in building up trust, I would be offering btc-e price + $20 on top of that. Here's a link to where you redeem your PayPal Cash card: http://www.paypal.com/cash. Let me know if anyone is interested, we can also start with smaller figures to build trust with each other and obviously I'll send you card pin first. These are irreversible just like MoneyPaks but these don't require you to enter your address and SSN and such when redeeming them like those Greendot MoneyPaks.

Let me know if you're interested! Just looking for ways to buy some BTC and in a way that's trustworthy for both parties. Thanks in advanced!
That is incorrect, you need to put in all the same info. 


I highly recommend using escrow instead of sending first or you'll be scammed insanely fast.
825  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: (W) $15 paypal on: October 01, 2014, 04:25:07 AM
Can do 1% under Bitstamp, let me know if interested
826  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTB] BFL Coffee Mug on: September 30, 2014, 05:19:12 PM
Also looking for a mug once everybody else in the thread gets one
827  Other / Off-topic / Re: how much you have a strong PC on: September 30, 2014, 07:05:59 AM
MSI 970A-G46
AMD Athlon x3 435 with 4th core unlocked and OC'd to 3.3ghz
Cooler Master tx3
1tb Seagate HDD
6 gigs of assorted RAM
Thermaltake 650w PSU
HIS HD 7850 1gb
828  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion shitlist on: September 30, 2014, 05:42:43 AM
Atheism has a doctrine. They don't think anyone else should be able to have a doctrine.
Incorrect, atheism is simply the lack of a belief in a god, there is no book of atheism that says there can be no religion.  The majority of them have no problem with it as long as it does not affect their lives.

Atheism exists only as a definition of an abstract idea. So-called atheists have simply deluded themselves into thinking that there is no God.  There aren't any atheists.

Smiley
Where is the evidence that there is a god?  We simply draw conclusions based on the information we have available.  I find it much harder to believe that we were all zapped into existence in 7 days, mankind was doomed to a whole bunch of bad stuff because the first 2 people ate a piece of fruit that god told them not to, yet put right in their reach, a Jewish guy he sent down was killed and came back from the dead after 3 days to save people from bad things they've done/will do because god couldn't just clean the slate, and everything that he wants us to know was told through a whole bunch of ancient tribesmen that wrote it down and passed the books down for thousands of years.
829  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion shitlist on: September 30, 2014, 03:02:55 AM
Atheism has a doctrine. They don't think anyone else should be able to have a doctrine.
Incorrect, atheism is simply the lack of a belief in a god, there is no book of atheism that says there can be no religion.  The majority of them have no problem with it as long as it does not affect their lives.
830  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion shitlist on: September 30, 2014, 02:23:32 AM

In what ways does science debunk evolution and support intelligent design?  Keep in mind that  the second law of thermodynamics (entropy) does not disprove evolution, and the burden of proof is on you for there being a god.

Minor issue, there exists an error in the construction of the argument.  Neither evolution or intelligent design proves or disproves a god.

Intelligent design could simply be super smart aliens playing with their toys.  Gamers.

ID does not prove or even buttress the argument for a god.  I understand why believers hold that it does.  They seek proof of words such as "God created (man, woman...).  Then confronted with evolution created man, they devise ID.  The logical fallacy is in believing that ID means "God created..."

ID actually means (set of possible creators and gamers) created (man, woman...)

This cannot be disproven by believers in ID who in fact are creationist religious people.
True, I was addressing the belief of a god creating us vs evolution, should have phrased my question better.
831  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion shitlist on: September 30, 2014, 12:38:33 AM
Genital mutilation: Islam and Judaism.

Catholic Church: Antisemitism for ~2000 years.

Buddhism: Karma, if your people gets slaughtered it's because they deserved it.
By genital mutilation you mean circumcision because if so its being scientifically researched that it might reduce chance of cancer. also why do people have to be such dickheads about religion because if you really believed in free speech then you wouldn't be attacking people for saying they believe in a god  or saying bless you when you sneeze.

you will find out that the biggest fascists are liberals

they will never allow someone to think differently

because their belief is the right belief

btw #7 Atheisim

-violence
-convert or else
-theism discrimination
-godphobia
-violence towards Christians

I'm an Agnostic, but I do hate Atheists

Let people believe what they want
-I don't see any cases of Atheists blowing up abortion clinics or beating people up for their sexual orientation.  The lack of a belief in a god doesn't make us more violent.

-We don't threaten to burn you in a eternal fire if you don't convert to atheism like some religions.  People on the more anti-theistic side may try to talk people out of believing, but that's about it.

-Wait, what?  Since when do we discriminate against people that believe in a god?

-You can't fear what doesn't exist

-The lack of a belief in a god does not cause you to be violent towards somebody that does.

I have been personally called out as dumb for believing in a god. Most atheist I have meet have a superiority complex to believers thinking were retards. Not saying you are but most atheist are assholes in my opinion due to there ignorance in thinking this way.

The debunking of which includes all kinds of twisted logic that can be applied in ways exactly the opposite for debunking. We still see entropy all around us.

Smiley
In what ways does science debunk evolution and support intelligent design?  Keep in mind that  the second law of thermodynamics (entropy) does not disprove evolution, and the burden of proof is on you for there being a god.
832  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion shitlist on: September 29, 2014, 10:40:06 PM
That was one crazy guy, in any large group there will always be some.  There is no atheist doctrine telling us to hate certain people or try to convert others, but rather a very broad spectrum of people that simply lack the belief in a diety.

In the strict dictionary meaning of "science," you may be correct. Proof has to do with what people think. For example. People haven't been able to find proof for evolution. In fact, all that they have been able to do is find strong evidence that evolution shouldn't even be considered a theory. So, the thing that they have done is to change the meaning of "science" informally if not dictionary-wise.

How much evidence does it take that the proven laws of entropy are correct? In the minds of evolutionists, they keep on seeking evidence for some little thing that might prove entropy incorrect. So, what really is proof?

Smiley
Yes they have



Wrong!

1. We see entropy all around. It is readily identifiable. It is a law of nature.
2. We don't see anything that could kick the universe into the high heights of advancement that are all around us.
3. Man is extremely intelligent and advanced (compared with, say, a microbe), and life and the universe as we see it are marvelous in their actions and activity, even though everything is slowing down due to entropy.
4. If the universe is billions of years old, and entropy has been going on all this long while ('cause we don't see anything other than entropy), just think how great everything must have been even only 1 billion years ago!!!

Entropy is causing everything to decline. Just think of the heights we must have fallen from if we have been declining for billions of years. And we must be declining. Why? Because we don't see anything that could have caused any advancement in all that time. It just doesn't exist. Evolution is all guesswork. Entropy is so widespread that evolution is as though it were nothing, or less than nothing.

So, since we have been declining due to entropy for all these billions of years, why haven't we left ourselves any clear records form the past? You know, the past of, say, a million years ago when we were advanced way higher than we are now, because entropy didn't have time to do its work way back then, yet, as much as it has done now?

Evolution is something that has to be searched for. You can't tell that it is there just by looking. Yet anybody and everybody who thinks about it and looks around, can see entropy. Evolution is a homemade interpretation of things that can be interpreted many other ways as well.

Smiley
Ah, the second law of thermodynamics argument, which has been debunked
833  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: BUYING BTC for Paypal/Cash Deposit/Prepaid/Gift Cards/MORE! BITSTAMP-1% on: September 29, 2014, 07:42:08 PM
hi are you online ,i sent you a skype request want to sell some btc for pp
I didn't get one, you probably sent one to my impersonator Lips sealed
834  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion shitlist on: September 29, 2014, 06:36:37 PM
That was one crazy guy, in any large group there will always be some.  There is no atheist doctrine telling us to hate certain people or try to convert others, but rather a very broad spectrum of people that simply lack the belief in a diety.

same goes for some religions

they represent peace and toleration but people often use it for their own selfish reasons

the Quran itself has quotes like this
Quote
[29:46] Do not argue with the people of the scripture (Jews, Christians, and Muslims) except in the nicest possible manner - unless they transgress - and say, "We believe in what was revealed to us and in what was revealed to you, and our god and your god is one and the same; to Him we are submitters."


[31:18-19] "You shall not treat the people with arrogance, nor shall you roam the earth proudly. GOD does not like the arrogant showoffs. "Walk humbly and lower your voice - the ugliest voice is the donkey's voice."

[4:148] GOD does not like the utterance of bad language, unless one is treated with gross injustice. GOD is Hearer, Knower.

[49:11] O you who believe, no people shall ridicule other people, for they may be better than they. Nor shall any women ridicule other women, for they may be better than they. Nor shall you mock one another, or make fun of your names. Evil indeed is the reversion to wickedness after attaining faith. Anyone who does not repent after this, these are the transgressors.

[41:34] Not equal is the good response and the bad response. You shall resort to the nicest possible response. Thus, the one who used to be your enemy, may become your best friend

people tend to use religion to cover-up their own selfish reasons

the public should be more aware of this "kind" rules from their Bibles,Qurans,Torahs etc.
it is us, that justify that for them because their religion "tells them so"
this is not true, but we have made it true for them at least


No it doesn't, because all of the people in a religion are living their lives based on a single holy book, and a good bit of their crimes are because of what the book told them.  For example, the bible literally says to stone gays, so when Christians beat up people based on that it's not hard to find out how they got there.  You hear about that stuff all the time, that post you linked was the first atheist I've heard of that got violent because of religion.  The lack of a belief does not make us all think the same.
835  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion shitlist on: September 29, 2014, 06:18:23 PM
That was one crazy guy, in any large group there will always be some.  There is no atheist doctrine telling us to hate certain people or try to convert others, but rather a very broad spectrum of people that simply lack the belief in a diety.

In the strict dictionary meaning of "science," you may be correct. Proof has to do with what people think. For example. People haven't been able to find proof for evolution. In fact, all that they have been able to do is find strong evidence that evolution shouldn't even be considered a theory. So, the thing that they have done is to change the meaning of "science" informally if not dictionary-wise.

How much evidence does it take that the proven laws of entropy are correct? In the minds of evolutionists, they keep on seeking evidence for some little thing that might prove entropy incorrect. So, what really is proof?

Smiley
Yes they have

836  Economy / Services / Re: Need something bought on Amazon? I'll buy it! (I have Prime) on: September 29, 2014, 06:08:53 PM
Escrow?
837  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion shitlist on: September 29, 2014, 06:04:25 PM
WTF are you talking about?!
The shitlist is by DOCTRINE, on personal basis there are Muslim pacifists and violent Buddhists. The list refers to what the religion preaches.
Atheism has no doctrines, the only doctrine is "there is no God", absolutely nothing else.

All the religions are practiced incorrectly by at least some of their people. All the religions have people who are ignorant of some of the tenets of their very own religion. Since it has not been proven that God does NOT exist (even by atheists), atheism is a religion, and one that attempts to hide the fact that atheists are setting themselves up as god, simply by denying the existence of God, without being able to prove that God doesn't exist.

Smiley

Prove to me that santa dont excist and I will prove with the same argument that God dont excist

Prove that Santa doesn't exist, and you will have the exact proofs that show you that God DOES exist.

Smiley

And you are incorrect.  There's this thing called the burden of proof when making a claim (that there is a god)

Quote from: Wikipedia
When debating any issue, there is an implicit burden of proof on the person asserting a claim. An argument from ignorance occurs when either a proposition is assumed to be true because it has not yet been proven false or a proposition is assumed to be false because it has not yet been proven true.

Proof only works when people are reasonably honest, especially with themselves.  Smiley
What is that supposed to mean?  We are talking scientific proof, either it exists or it doesn't.  
838  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion shitlist on: September 29, 2014, 05:44:03 PM
WTF are you talking about?!
The shitlist is by DOCTRINE, on personal basis there are Muslim pacifists and violent Buddhists. The list refers to what the religion preaches.
Atheism has no doctrines, the only doctrine is "there is no God", absolutely nothing else.

All the religions are practiced incorrectly by at least some of their people. All the religions have people who are ignorant of some of the tenets of their very own religion. Since it has not been proven that God does NOT exist (even by atheists), atheism is a religion, and one that attempts to hide the fact that atheists are setting themselves up as god, simply by denying the existence of God, without being able to prove that God doesn't exist.

Smiley

Prove to me that santa dont excist and I will prove with the same argument that God dont excist

Prove that Santa doesn't exist, and you will have the exact proofs that show you that God DOES exist.

Smiley

And you are incorrect.  There's this thing called the burden of proof when making a claim (that there is a god)

Quote from: Wikipedia
When debating any issue, there is an implicit burden of proof on the person asserting a claim. An argument from ignorance occurs when either a proposition is assumed to be true because it has not yet been proven false or a proposition is assumed to be false because it has not yet been proven true.
839  Other / Archival / Re: ~ ~ [ANN] | redsn0w's Escrow Service | [FREE] ~ ~ on: September 29, 2014, 04:27:57 PM
Accidentally sent Redsn0w .3 worth of Paypal instead of .03, was immediately refunded the difference.  Very trustworthy
840  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion shitlist on: September 29, 2014, 01:09:41 AM
Genital mutilation: Islam and Judaism.

Catholic Church: Antisemitism for ~2000 years.

Buddhism: Karma, if your people gets slaughtered it's because they deserved it.
By genital mutilation you mean circumcision because if so its being scientifically researched that it might reduce chance of cancer. also why do people have to be such dickheads about religion because if you really believed in free speech then you wouldn't be attacking people for saying they believe in a god  or saying bless you when you sneeze.

you will find out that the biggest fascists are liberals

they will never allow someone to think differently

because their belief is the right belief

btw #7 Atheisim

-violence
-convert or else
-theism discrimination
-godphobia
-violence towards Christians

I'm an Agnostic, but I do hate Atheists

Let people believe what they want
-I don't see any cases of Atheists blowing up abortion clinics or beating people up for their sexual orientation.  The lack of a belief in a god doesn't make us more violent.

-We don't threaten to burn you in a eternal fire if you don't convert to atheism like some religions.  People on the more anti-theistic side may try to talk people out of believing, but that's about it.

-Wait, what?  Since when do we discriminate against people that believe in a god?

-You can't fear what doesn't exist

-The lack of a belief in a god does not cause you to be violent towards somebody that does.
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