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481  Other / Meta / Re: Abuse of the trust system by Vod on: November 12, 2013, 08:34:53 PM
Still waiting on Vod....
482  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Tithing on: November 12, 2013, 08:24:06 PM


Muslims Around The World Are Burning Churches and Killing Christians – Where is The Outrage?
http://zionstrumpet.com/2011/08/04/muslims-around-the-world-are-burning-churches-and-killing-christians-where-is-the-outrage/

"Where is the outrage from the worldwide Christian community? I could fill hundreds of pages with stories of muslims burning down churches and killing Christians. Here is a very small sample of recent incidents of Christian persecution taking place on a regular basis in countries with majority muslim populations."
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“We don’t want churches on our street. Today we are going to burn the church, and if you continue we are going to burn your house also,” Note posted to the donor of a plot for a church building in Zanzibar. As if a 97% Muslim majority was not enough, the local population and government (taking a cue from how they do it in other Muslim countries) is, through this latest Zanzibar church burning incident, seeing to it that Islam is the only way on Tanzania’s Pemba and Unguja Islands.

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The Muslims had burned down the homes of 30 Christian leaders, they had killed one Christian, wounded several others, and burned down 69 churches, a Bible school, and a Christian orphanage.

Muslim Brotherhood Supporters Burning Coptic Christian
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2013/08/15/peaceful-brotherhood-protesters-torching-coptic-christian-churches-n1665492

Muslim Brotherhood Memo Encourages Burning Churches in Egypt
http://www.algemeiner.com/2013/08/20/muslim-brotherhood-memo-encourages-burning-churches-in-egypt/

"Muslims Burn Down Catholic Church in Sudan"- Christian Post
http://www.christianpost.com/news/muslims-burn-down-catholic-church-in-sudan-73668/





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I for one do agree that rapists, child molesters, should be treated like parasites, but thats just me. So their death doesn't have an impact....
The problem with Islam is that they will accuse anyone of the above, just so they can kill them to get their property and land.

Yeah, the Hagia Sophia, a church the Muslims took over and made a mosque!

You are either in denial, or defending these murderers!
483  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Looking for a repuatable business email service that accepts Bitcoin on: November 12, 2013, 08:17:15 PM

Mykolab looked interesting, but I couldn't find a way to pay with bitcoins and I didn't see 2FA offered for webmail login.  Hushmail is in the process of adding 2FA, but the told me they have no plans to begin accepting bitcoins (I mentioned BitPay to them). 



Don't use Hushmail, it is not private.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2007/11/encrypted-e-mai/
http://www.cajuntechie.org/2013/06/the-problem-with-hushmail.html




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484  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Looking for a repuatable business email service that accepts Bitcoin on: November 12, 2013, 06:22:39 PM
@all:

Please understand that we are looking for a service that we can run in conjunction with our own domain, where we can manage users. Such email service from Google is certainly not free. We are not looking for @gmail.com accounts or something like this.

Mykolab allows you to do that.
485  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Tithing on: November 12, 2013, 06:19:17 PM

I didn't ignored anything.

Christianity isnt the oldest religion, there are older ones. Also only Ten Commandments were dictated by the God ( or a talking burning bush ). Everything else was written by the man, that is even stated in the Bible.

Because Muslims say so?!? And because Christians says so?!? If you read few posts above you would see that I am not religious...

Christianity became recognized religion when Roman Emperor on his death bed became Christian... Also didn't Christians killed millions because of the religion?!?

I know many Muslims and none of them would be killed if they decide to become Christian or denounce religion... So thats not true at all. There are countries that are strictly following teaching in Kuran, but that's not important.
And if you are gay according Bible should face the same fate...

Leviticus 18:22 - Homosexual acts are an abomination to God.
Leviticus 20:13 - If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.
Chronicles 15:12-13 - They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of                                             Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.....

You do realize that there are so many orders to kill nonbelievers, false prophets, witches...
That everything alive was killed by God ( flood ), the cities destroyed, then killing of 1st born sons and so on....

The big difference is, Muslims are carrying out these murders to this very day.

You should read http://www.atlasshrugs.com

Thousands are dying in the name of Islam every month for apostasy, being gay, and other "crimes."

Muslims are persecuting Christians in Egypt and throughout the Middle East, burning their churches and killing them. I do not see Christianity doing the same. Get your head out of the sand!
486  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Love Max Keiser's Show - (I think I need change my dollars) on: November 12, 2013, 06:17:12 PM
Im in the UK and watch HIGNFY most weeks, I was surprised (gobsmacked) when the panel was introduced and Max was on, Ive watched RT and seen vids of him on youtube and although he is knowledgable, he always has to spoil it by going on a global financial apocolypse rant! and then comes across as a loony, this doesnt help spread the bitcoin word, I also got the impression he didnt know much about bitcoin other than what he'd been told.

still it was good to hear bitcoin mentioned on the BBC at primetime on a friday night, cant hurt.  Grin


You realize he is right about the US economy collapsing soon right?
487  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Looking for a repuatable business email service that accepts Bitcoin on: November 12, 2013, 06:04:24 PM
Opt out of global data surveillance programs.

https://www.prism-break.org/


488  Economy / Lending / Re: Requesting 0.25 Btc loan on: November 12, 2013, 05:53:22 PM
I just got this PM from Joey:


(No subject)
« Sent to: AndrewWilliams on: Today at 07:54:01 AM »
   
Yo I really need that loan that u commented on awhile back... I can provide id to a third party if you would like
-



I looked at his posts and his name is Joey. And this is for a gambling loan. Not a faith inspiring combination.
489  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Tithing on: November 12, 2013, 02:08:18 AM

Why would you look a definition of a cult from Christianity view point?

Christianity wasn't even a religion some 2000 years ago, it was banned and it was considered something that isn't going to do any good to Roman belief system. Also considering that a cult is a belief in a deity, then Christianity is a cult, same as any other religion in the world. Gautama Buddha, a person that paved the path to Buddhism rejected the existance of creator  deity, and as far as I remember from school and talks, there is no concept of God like in Islam, Christianity and so on.

Also, every religion has their rules. One thing you didnt mentioned when you talked about Bible. Bible is written by man ( of many of them ), Kur'an was written by the man but the instruction ( or what to write ) was dictated by the God.
The, Christianity, same as any other religion is based on a reward system, that if you follow you get a reward and if you don;t, well you are punished. So that is the same as in any cult.

You ignored what I wrote.

Christianity is based on Judaism and the Old Testament. Hence the Old Testament (Judaism and Christianity) and the New Testament (Christianity).

Yes, the Romans murdered Jesus on the cross for preaching the gospel.

Not sure why you think the Quran is dictated by God and the Bible is not... are you Muslim?

The main difference is Islam punishes apostates (converts to another religion) and preaching another religion to a Muslim is viewed as grounds to imprison and execute them.
If you are Muslim and become agnostic, they will try and kill you if you live in a Muslim country. It is actually written into the laws and enforced.
In Iran they will hang you if you are gay. Happens quite often actually.


IMO the Quran is a hack job which copies the Old and New Testaments. If you want to see a REAL cult in action, study Islam.
I know many former Muslims who agree with this assessment.
490  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Tithing on: November 12, 2013, 01:37:57 AM
A Working Definition of a "Cult"

    The definition of cult in this essay is primarily non-theological. Traditionally Christians apply the term to Bible based groups that have significantly departed from the mainstream and historical creeds, particularly regarding the deity of Jesus and the meaning of His sacrifice on the cross. Bible based cults typically deny the full deity and humanity of Jesus, His atoning work on the cross, bodily resurrection, and return at the end of the age as King of kings and Lord of lords to judge the living and the dead.

    However, Islam is being examined here using a secular definition of cult, that is, the use of mind-bending psychological and sociological techniques to recruit, motivate, and retain converts and members. Contrary to popular understandings, cults may not be religious; they may be political, commercial, or psychological! educational in nature. Cults may be large or small, named or unnamed, known or unknown. They may have a leader or be without a leader. The essential issue is the use of control mechanisms that violate the individuality of participants to freely associate with the group.

    Cults are dangerous-they control, manipulate, and use those under their sway. Islam leaders issue declarations, a "fatwa", and may even call for a holy war, the "jihad". These clerical pronouncements place demands upon Muslims, which may violate their will and inner sensibilities. If Islam were not so fractured into sects and splinter movements, the non-Muslim world would face a more serious enemy that it does today. So strange is Islam, that it sanctions the murder of "infidels" and, of course, I am one and so is anyone who is not a Muslim.

Is Islam Cultic?

    My answer to the above question is that Islam is cultic. The following is a series of questions and assertions designed to demonstrate this contention.

    Why is Islam not a cult when in many Muslim dominated countries it is a capital offense to hand Muslims a Bible, or, to simply explain Christianity to them? Of course, the same holds true for a Hindu or a Buddhist or a Taoist who might attempt to pass along something of his or her faith. Saudi Arabia, the guardian of Islam's most holy shrines in Mecca and Medina, is a highly restricted society where Christians are not allowed any public expression of their faith.

    Why is Islam not a cult when it is virtually impossible for a Muslim to leave the religion even if one is not converting to another religion but merely wishes to become, for example, an atheist or agnostic?

    Why is Islam not a cult when Muslim warriors force their religion on people? The history of Islam is full of that kind of proselytization. Yes, I know the Roman Catholic Church has forced "pagans" to adopt Catholicism. However that church has recognized that in so doing it was wrong-headed, anti-biblical, and, indeed, anti-Christian. As a Baptist, I can say that in 500 years of our history we have not engaged in such tactics and neither have any of the traditional Evangelical, Protestant denominations.

    A vivid illustration of the cultic nature of Islam is the case of the novelist Salman Rushdie. Rushdie had a death contract issued against his life for what was taken as a slight against Allah in his Satanic Verses. Whereas, novelists, journalists, commentators, filmmakers, and television producers routinely critique Christianity without reprisal. Yes, I know there were the inquisitions, but again, those were carried out by the Roman Church, which is only one segment of the Christian Church. But with Islam, vengeance, reprisals, and even death contracts are systemic and ingrained in the religion.

    Many if not most Muslims who live in Western countries are not cultic extremists and will be patriots of whatever country in which they live. But, the commitment to Islam may run far deeper than loyalty to any nation. Muslims will change national or political affiliations if needed, but their commitment to the defense of Islam may be fanatical. Religious faith, especially cultic religious faith, may motivate people into radical behavior.

http://www.w3church.org/ISLAM1.html
491  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Tithing on: November 12, 2013, 12:41:57 AM
And of course you are allowed to think it's wrong, even if you don't see it's only because of your association.  You are "too close", so to say.

I am curious as to why you call islam a cult, but not your own christianity.

What do you think the definition of "cult" is?    According to the dictionary, which most people get their definitions from, any group of people that worship the same thing is a cult.


Further, if you got to Europe, you can see how Islam has turned many cities into disaster areas.

In England and Norway, there are many areas considered "no go zones" for non Muslims. Unlike going down a street in a nice neighborhood in the US or Canada, going in will not only elicit dirty looks, but will likely get you beat up or killed. Even the police will not go into certain areas for fear of violence.



Islam is a cult because of it tenets

In Islam, you can be killed for apostasy (leaving Islam).
In Islam, you cannot say anything derogatory about Muhammed, or you will be killed.
Preaching another religion in a Muslim country will get you imprisoned and or killed.

In Islam disciplinary action includes beating, maiming, stoning, beheading or jail. Excommunication is for minor offenses.
Those who leave Islam must live in constant threat of being discovered and killed.


Based on the above, Islam is a cult. It is the biggest and the most successful cult. It practically reunites every feature of cult. Other cults may not be cultic in some of the above points. But Islam is cultic in every way and it would be a gross mistake to number it among religions just because 1.2 billion benighted people call themselves Muslims.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina50218.htm
492  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Looking for a repuatable business email service that accepts Bitcoin on: November 12, 2013, 12:33:16 AM
http://www.mykolab.com

Swiss based privacy focused email service. Very good.
493  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Tithing on: November 12, 2013, 12:25:13 AM

I certainly didn't mean you MUST be born a christian if you live in America.  Thanks for assuming though.

Atheists have existed in America for generations already - it's certainly possible you were born to one of them.

I meant that if born in the US, you are much more likely to be a christian than a buddhist.   No god has international influence like you think an all powerful god would.


Interesting point, except I think it is wrong.

The three major religions are Christianity, Judaism, and Islam.

Each of them recognizes "fundamentals," including Jesus Christ. The interpretation of course differs among them.

But, obviously, Abraham, the Old Testament, are an underlying recurrence.

Quote from: Vod
Christianity is just as much of a cult as Islam is.  You just don't think so because you are in it.

Wrong. Look up definition of a cult. Hint: It's not just a trendy word.

Islam is a cult because of it tenets.

In Islam, you can be killed for apostasy (leaving Islam).
In Islam, you cannot say anything derogatory about Muhammed, or you will be killed.


http://www.articlesbase.com/news-and-society-articles/islam-is-not-a-religion-islam-is-a-cult-877139.html
Read and learn.
494  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Tithing on: November 12, 2013, 12:13:12 AM
Unfortunately some of the groups are run by corrupt, selfish, and criminal idiots (see Warren Jeffs), but they are usually in the minority.

Are you claiming that every one of your sect leaders are just, honorable and honest?  If so, how are all the young boys being molested?

The only reason you are a christian is because of where in the world you were born.  Had you been born in India, for example, you wouldn't be a christian.  Don't knock one cult unless you are willing to knock them all, because that makes you a hypocrite.


If you read the sentence, it says "Unfortunately some of the groups are run by corrupt, selfish, and criminal idiots."



Wrong. I was not born a Christian. Thanks for assuming though.

In fact, I was raised to hate Christianity, and some of my early experiences with "Christians" were negative.
Over time though, I figured out there were many hypocrites who called themselves Christians, but really weren't. In fact, many Christians I know are not ones who boast "I am a Christian!" but exhibit the values nonetheless. Christianity is about values, not titles.

And many people all over the world come to Christianity through learning about it. It is not a static religion where one is simply born into it.

These days I am very critical of the Pastor Rick Warren (what a scam) and any Christian church who is aligning themselves with Islam, saying the Jesus in Islam is the same Jesus in Christianity, which it's not. But that's another story.

If you want to talk about cults, talk about Islam. THAT is a real cult.
495  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Tithing on: November 11, 2013, 10:53:06 PM

I'm not surprised they would do that, but what a crock of shit

I admire the way LDS folk take care of one another, but in order to be part of the "care circle" you have to join their club and pay the dues (and not be black).  No thank you...  Similar to the Amish, you'll be taken care of, but you have to play by their rules and listen to the elders.   




Unfortunately some of the groups are run by corrupt, selfish, and criminal idiots (see Warren Jeffs), but they are usually in the minority.

Amish are very admirable. Although the show Amish Mafia really tries to show another side of it, LOL.

496  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I invest in the dollar? on: November 11, 2013, 10:39:42 PM
The dollar is going to continue going downhill as long as Obama proceeds with his plan to make the USA a third world country.
Angering other countries by spying on them doesn't help.
497  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Crashes Nearly 25% - Joe Weisenthal at Business Insider on: November 11, 2013, 10:35:11 PM

It is hard to understand how can you see racial bashing in my text. I was implying at cultural, social and religious backgrounds. Races are an biological or an anthropological mater and were not discussed about.
But you are right, I should correct myself and accept that a lot of people are confident that some subjects are more sacred then others, and should receive special treatment. I apologize that I spoke my mind and in the future, I'll try to filter my thoughts according to your personal wishes. I am sorry.

You might find people sympathetic to your viewpoint on Stormfront.



EDIT: This guy is a troll. Ignored.
498  Economy / Speculation / Re: Was... that the crash -.- on: November 11, 2013, 10:25:45 PM
I have a feeling we are all in for a big surprise in the next 3 weeks Cheesy
499  Economy / Speculation / Re: dollar collapse on: November 11, 2013, 10:21:06 PM
It should be noted that the european economy is in deep shit even without the failing dollar to push it along. There are simply not enough people in the 20-30 range to pay for the retiring baby boomers, and it's their fault for not having enough kids (sub-replacement rate).


Yeah, the geniuses linked all the European economies together using the Euro, knowing that if they could get 1 or 2 large countries to fall, the rest of Europe would fall (Greece and Spain).

In times of uncertainty, Bitcoin is king.
500  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Crashes Nearly 25% - Joe Weisenthal at Business Insider on: November 11, 2013, 10:08:19 PM

I am free-minded towards anyone, by discarding their background while valuating their character as a whole. But still, there are certain stereotypes for certain backgrounds and these types would not be considered stereotypes if they weren't often seen by others. Everyone can break free from their background and what is expected from them, not everyone choose to break free though.
It is just sad that we can joke freely about some stereotypes, but with others, people freeze and find you inappropriate Sad


Keep your sterotypes to yourself. If you want to start bashing races you can go to Storm Front for that.
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