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481  Economy / Gambling / Re: Betnomi.com | Crypto Centric 🏀Sportsbook and 🎲Casino - 🔥Biggest Jackpots on: October 10, 2020, 11:04:27 PM
Just made a deposit in betnomi, got 50% cash bonus and been making some bets.

Odds: not the best but is ok in high market sports.
Software: Betconstruct, not bad.
Poker: Good traffic, for cash games and tournaments
Casino and Livecasino: its not bad, a lot of slots, and top games in live casino as blackjack, roulette, rusky poker, bacarrat etc... tables enough for playing.
Deposit: crypto only, bitcoin, eth, tron etc....

For now, everything is ok, fast registration and no KYC.

What a feel strange, in his telegram nobody talking about bets or gambling, only about the BNI token.


You are welcome, always available to support you every step of the way. It can only get better from here. Hope you are having fun
482  Economy / Gambling / Re: Betnomi.com | Crypto Centric 🏀Sportsbook and 🎲Casino - 🔥Biggest Jackpots on: October 10, 2020, 10:17:12 PM

This means that you accept customers from countries where gambling is prohibited? I wonder if that's a smart thing to write, and I think it's illegal too.

Its obvious you are here for no good. Not trying to get any information or suggest how to improve anything but only here to point figure and cause issues. We say to use our service if its not legal in your country.
You don't determine what we can or cant do. We are not going to prevent anyone from using our platform except in the above stated situations.
483  Economy / Reputation / Re: Alt of game-protect? on: October 10, 2020, 09:52:14 PM
What if Betnomi logged in wrong and messed up with copy? It is a very strange situation.
Suppose Betnomi made a post, but the post was not good after all in his eyes. Then he post this with Betnomi, but then realized he used the wrong account and then copy paste from translation, and things messed up.
There are many cases possible. Or maybe Gosha is indeed trying to set Betnomi up. ican not find the post anymore now, so somebody is trying to cover traces.


This is an interesting theory. Maybe you should look at the archives and the times here.

https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5535/55352590.html (gosha@e-coin)

https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5535/55352601.html (betnomi)


Looking at this and the time difference, you would have to assume, 1. I made a post/ reply with the "game protect account" then after one minute, i decided to go reply the same comment with the "betnomi account"
then i came back to edit the game protect account post to match exactly as the betnomi post or however you want to explain it.

Congratulations! Its kinda sad i would have to be responding to stuffs like this. One aimless guy trying to troll/ set us up and now, everyone has to waste their precious time on this.
484  Economy / Reputation / Re: Alt of game-protect? on: October 10, 2020, 09:19:52 PM
Are you saying gosha@e-coin is trying to set up Betnomi?

Quite possible. gosha@e-coin replies pretending they're betnomi. Real betnomi posts a reply a few minutes later. gosha@e-coin edits their post (still within the 10-minute window so we wouldn't know if not for LoyceV's archive) to copy betnomi's response. Random newbie just happens to find this thread and posts "proof". gosha@e-coin didn't delete their post, which a real "red handed" sockpuppet would have done instead if editing their sockpuppet post to match their real one... why? Shady AF.


This I found very interesting. I was trying to look at his dictions as a proof that, the post is not from the same person but, he is cleaver enough to copy bits and pieces from my previous comments and reassemble them together. Unbelievable!





what was the neg tag for?  Already some people jumped the gun by giving us a neg tag now they are no longer active in the forum to withdraw it.
We kindly request, you take your time and review the evidence before giving people neg tags.
Did I gave you negative tag?
-No. I gave you betonomi gosha neutral tag because of clear account connection with posting 100% exact same post.

Account connecting? Kindly look at the archive @suchmoon was able to pull out and tell me why i would edit a post from my supposedly second account to match the post from our account? lol
485  Economy / Reputation / Re: Alt of game-protect? on: October 10, 2020, 09:05:44 PM
Seems that Game Protect AKA Gosha@e-coin started a new casino for his own: Betnomi.com
He made a mistake by logging in with the wrong account and made a post:


True story. Original post was different than one in the screenshot but still shows they're the same person: Hmmmm.... maybe not. Could be clever setup.

https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5535/55352590.html (gosha@e-coin)

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Our goal is to process all payouts as quickly and efficiently as possible. people can still use the free 100 usd bonus to test our site. making a withdrawal has no requirements. we will look into each case different and will show that we will not disappoint our customers. and maybe somebody will hit the jackpot on our site as well lol.

https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5535/55352601.html (betnomi)

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We appreciate the positive outlook on our website. Just kindly asking everyone gives us a few days to get everything together and tie up all loose ends.  Its going to be 🔥 and a lot of fun.

Regarding withdrawals, there is a 24 hour limit of 100,000 Euros. Ie, for every 24 hours, a user can withdrawal up to 100,000 Euros.


@suchmoon Thank you so much for being able to pull up the archive of his original post else this would have been another big issue where we will be forced to waste a lot of time refuting this claim.  He was clearly trying to set us up.  We really appreciate it. Thank you And @dkbit98 what was the neg tag for?  Already some people jumped the gun by giving us a neg tag now they are no longer active in the forum to withdraw it.
We kindly request, you take your time and review the evidence before giving people neg tags.
486  Economy / Gambling / Re: Betnomi.com | Crypto Centric 🏀Sportsbook and 🎲Casino - 🔥Biggest Jackpots on: October 10, 2020, 07:45:51 PM
I want everybody to read the following article, as some people have clear evidence this site is a SCAM.
From the beginning, I knew something was shady on them.
And now we all know why Game Protect was not responding here all these months, because he was creating his own casino!

So Betnomi = Game Protect



You are a joke! This nonsense was raised months ago and we had to fight and explain things for weeks to clean up things. The current 2 neg on our profile is as a result of that. The users who left that are not longer active on the forum to withdraw it other than that, everyone else took off their neg and here we are again, you are trying to bring up this nonsense.

Anyways, jokes on you. We have nothing to do with Game Protect or whatever!

@kamadazje for all we know, you are @Game Protect

#edit





Thank you for answering my question. This is very important to know because some of us really don't like KYC and they will even avoid sites that require users to fill out KYC form. I like anonymity because I really don't want my gambling activities to be known by those around me and so far I have felt very comfortable with crypto-based game. As a campaign participant of this site, will we also be required to fill out KYC to make withdrawal ?
I don't expect it to be necessary.

No, you are not required to do any KYC for withdrawal.





To summarize, you will pay all customers except those from Curacao, The Netherlands, France and the United States of America? Am i correct?

These 4 countries, we will actively look for users and ban them but for all other countries, this should not be a problem. Our rule of thumb is, don't do it if its not legal in your country.  Although we will not prevent you from doing so. Smiley
487  Economy / Gambling / Re: Betnomi.com | Crypto Centric 🏀Sportsbook and 🎲Casino - 🔥Biggest Jackpots on: October 10, 2020, 05:33:18 PM

Wait... what-? I think you are using wrong account to reply.


We appreciate the positive outlook on our website. Just kindly asking everyone gives us a few days to get everything together and tie up all loose ends.  Its going to be 🔥 and a lot of fun.

Regarding withdrawals, there is a 24 hour limit of 100,000 Euros. Ie, for every 24 hours, a user can withdrawal up to 100,000 Euros.


We do not have any relationship with this users and his is not authorized to speak on our behalf. We recommend, you disregard his comments.
488  Economy / Gambling / Re: Betnomi.com | Crypto Centric 🏀Sportsbook and 🎲Casino - 🔥Biggest Jackpots on: October 10, 2020, 05:24:15 PM
-snip-
Regarding withdrawals, there is a 24 hour limit of 100,000 Euros. Ie, for every 24 hours, a user can withdrawal up to 100,000 Euros.
I think that number is good enough for the players on the site to agree on. 100K Euro per 24 hours is a withdrawal limit and is almost up to 10.5 btc at the current price.
A little additional question, is every player who will withdraw fund from the site required to fill out a KYC form ?


About KYC and restricted countries, our official position is, we do out outright ask for KYC from any user. However, there may be some rare situations where this may be required ie. Gaming authorities request, a court order
or similar such circumstances. Our commitment to the general public is, in very uncomfortable situations such as these, we will stand by you every step of the way to resolve the issue. Betnomi will do whatever it can to resolve the issue. We are fans of privacy and anonymity, would be ideal not to have these rules and laws, to begin with, but, "We will work with you to resolve any KYC related issues" This is how far we can go on this issue without breaking any laws. Let those who can read into this read what they can Smiley. On the subject of confiscating user's funds, we are categorically stating, we will "never Confiscate"  the funds of any user for KYC or restricted country related issues. We do understand people make mistakes and someone could make a deposit without properly following the rules. In an event like this, we will simply return your deposit to you and will not "Confiscate your money". However, we will unapologetically ban your account if we determine of course with sufficient evidence that you cheated or are cheating or exploiting our systems and or promotional activities.  Please archive this statement for future references if you have any doubts. It's not just a statement, its a Promise.

Good luck everyone and have a fun time.

That is our position regarding KYC and country restrictions.
489  Economy / Gambling / Re: Betnomi.com | Crypto Centric 🏀Sportsbook and 🎲Casino - 🔥Biggest Jackpots on: October 10, 2020, 05:03:37 PM
It is nice to read that people are now more positive about the site and that the documentation has been adjusted on the site. In the beginning, adjustments are always needed. I've tested the site a few times, it seems to be pretty stable too. Do you also have certain limits with withdrawals?

We appreciate the positive outlook on our website. Just kindly asking everyone gives us a few days to get everything together and tie up all loose ends.  Its going to be 🔥 and a lot of fun.

Regarding withdrawals, there is a 24 hour limit of 100,000 Euros. Ie, for every 24 hours, a user can withdrawal up to 100,000 Euros.
490  Economy / Gambling / Re: Betnomi.com | Crypto Centric 🏀Sportsbook and 🎲Casino - 🔥Biggest Jackpots on: October 10, 2020, 04:02:35 PM
First, thank you for keeping us up to date, you're actively answering those queries on previous pages.

~snip~
We will do one massive token give away before an exchange listing. The idea behind the token is for it to be a free token and grant many people access to play games on our website who would be unable to otherwise.
Great idea, it will lure many gamblers to visit the site and I guess will have for them an interest to play. I thought before the token was created just for the testing on the site but now, it will have a value since you have a plan to list on the exchange. Can we know in what exchange platform could be the token listed?


We do have 3-4 exchanges that are in talks with us about listing the tokens. Regarding the value of the tokens, we do not know about that as the token is not intended to be profitable or as a kind of investment for our users.
The general idea is to give out the token free to our community and every now and then, we will put 10-30% of the platform revenue back into the tokens. Its our way of rewarding the community for the tremendous support. Maybe some people can make some money off it lol. We do not intend to make any profit off the tokens. We are 100% self funded project.
491  Economy / Gambling / Re: Betnomi.com | Crypto Centric 🏀Sportsbook and 🎲Casino - 🔥Biggest Jackpots on: October 10, 2020, 03:06:48 PM

Thanks for the clarification. Many people play gambling around the world even though it is restricted in their countries. With the use of crypto currencies, its hard to trace if anyone is gambling or not. People from my country will keep on playing on your site.  Smiley

They are very welcome to pay on betnomi. No one is going to stop them  Cool





Nice to see the Betnomi team works hard to find an efficient way to list the token and decrease the transaction fees. I have checked the Telegram group and Wolfbain(admin) has announced there is a 1-week deadline to convert the ERC20 tokens to the BEP2 chain. Is this true or you will extend the deadline depending on the user's actions? One more question, when you will activate the BTN tokens for gambling on the main platform? If there is no exchange, at least playing slots on Betnomi will be the best to have fun.


We can confirm this is true and we surely will have our tokens integrated into the main platform where users would be able to play with our tokens. There was a one week deadline for the token swap but, we will give some additional time as many people still haven't completed the token swaps. We will do one massive token give away before an exchange listing. The idea behind the token is for it to be a free token and grant many people access to play games on our website who would be unable to otherwise.
492  Economy / Gambling / Re: Betnomi.com | Crypto Centric 🏀Sportsbook and 🎲Casino - 🔥Biggest Jackpots on: October 10, 2020, 02:17:56 PM

So if gambling is not legally allowed in any country, you will restrict it too ?
Gambling is not legally allowed in Pakistan but you have not included in your restricted countries ?  It will be better if you can update on it.


Pakistan is not on the list of restricted countries from the licensing authorities and or any of our game providers. The general rule is, do not engage in any activity that is not legal in your country.
Users from Pakistan will not be restricted from our from our service.

493  Economy / Gambling / Re: Betnomi.com | Crypto Centric 🏀Sportsbook and 🎲Casino - 🔥Biggest Jackpots on: October 10, 2020, 01:51:02 PM

I am very glad that you came in front and answered all the questions kindly. Now all out confusions are clear about kyc, license and withdrawal fees. While the website is still new and can have a lot of bugs, I think you should ask your developer to launch and add a test coin for your website like (example) BNM 'Betnomi coin' and allow us to test the website by giving us some free coins like we get at bitsler too. This will help you in finding major bugs and remove them from the site, may these test coins play a leading role in adding more audience to your site.

This is a very good suggestion. Our team will look into this and for the most efficient ways to implement this feature. We have plans on launching a bug bounty program in the next few weeks.
494  Economy / Gambling / Re: Betnomi.com | Crypto Centric 🏀Sportsbook and 🎲Casino - 🔥Biggest Jackpots on: October 10, 2020, 01:00:21 PM

Good luck everyone and have a fun time.
You're right, it is something to fun at this site using the available features it has. But I hope you will add more to the existing features as it surely helps and attracts more gamblers.
Well, I'm not saying it is a must because it was your team and the developers to decide which better and it looks more unique from the other site. But, I have to say also that it is much better to listen to the demand of the community.

But anyway, I really appreciate the response that you've shared with us, especially to KYC.


We are actively working, making updates, adding new features and changes. One of the things we value the most is the communities feedbacks and suggestions. We take this very seriously and will always implement/ make the necessary changes. Really appreciate the support and we won't let you all down.

495  Economy / Gambling / Re: Betnomi.com | Crypto Centric 🏀Sportsbook and 🎲Casino - 🔥Biggest Jackpots on: October 10, 2020, 12:42:12 PM
@Betnomi
Do you have your own gaming license or are you renting the platform from a White label organisation and rent their license?

Considering they still haven't tweaked the vallidator, I have a strong suspicion that they aren't licensed at all directly.
I had also asked a similar question once before, but there was no response then. It would be smart that the Operator will start giving explanations.

I think everybody would appreciate if you answer this simple question.


We do have a license and the validator links and all related information's will be update soon. We are working on it.
496  Economy / Gambling / Re: Betnomi.com | Crypto Centric 🏀Sportsbook and 🎲Casino - 🔥Biggest Jackpots on: October 10, 2020, 11:52:33 AM

There is currently a withdrawal fee of +0.00040000 for BTC and of +0.00600000 for ETH. For other coins, the fees are negligible. The minimum withdrawal for Bitcoins is 10$ and for every other coins is 5$.

Thank you for reply.
I was once a player at duckdice and they allowed exchanging any crypto to their listed crypto at no extra cost. Will you allow exchanging btc to other crypto at your website in future?





As I know there is no exchange feature, but once you make a deposit then it will be credited in fiat (usd).
Lets say you make a deposit of 100$ worth of bitcoin, then you will have $100 on your account.
Once you want to withdraw, you are able to withdraw it in any available coins provided by betnomi for example Doge.
So I do not think exchange is needed since you can withdraw your money with any coins.
Correct me if I'm wrong.


@panjul07 You are correct. There is no exchange on our website currently. Whatever amount you deposit in in cryptocurrencies, you will receive its equivalent in your selected fiat currency at the time of registration. Same way, there are 9 different cryptocurrencies we support at this time and you can withdraw your balance in any of this crypto in fiat and you will receive the fiat equivalent in crypto so essentially, its a "pseudo exchange".
Working on adding some more crypto to the platform.



About KYC and restricted countries, our official position is, we do out outright ask for KYC from any user. However, there may be some rare situations where this may be required ie. Gaming authorities request, a court order
or similar such circumstances. Our commitment to the general public is, in very uncomfortable situations such as these, we will stand by you every step of the way to resolve the issue. Betnomi will do whatever it can to resolve the issue. We are fans of privacy and anonymity, would be ideal not to have these rules and laws, to begin with, but, "We will work with you to resolve any KYC related issues" This is how far we can go on this issue without breaking any laws. Let those who can read into this read what they can Smiley. On the subject of confiscating user's funds, we are categorically stating, we will "never Confiscate"  the funds of any user for KYC or restricted country related issues. We do understand people make mistakes and someone could make a deposit without properly following the rules. In an event like this, we will simply return your deposit to you and will not "Confiscate your money". However, we will unapologetically ban your account if we determine of course with sufficient evidence that you cheated or are cheating or exploiting our systems and or promotional activities.  Please archive this statement for future references if you have any doubts. It's not just a statement, its a Promise.

Good luck everyone and have a fun time.
497  Economy / Gambling / Re: Betnomi.com | Crypto Centric 🏀Sportsbook and 🎲Casino - 🔥Biggest Jackpots on: October 10, 2020, 12:04:59 AM
After many months later,  I have used this platform again. I remember the first days of Betnomi promotions while only Blast game was available. Now it has grown and there is a chance to go up on the list of top gambling platforms.  By the way, you have announced the swap from ERC-20 tokens to BEP2, what happened to the listing on the exchange ideas? All the best!

Yes, we switch to Binance smart chain because of the ETH fees. The tokens are essentially not for sale. The idea is to  distribute ~ 10-30% of our net profit to the token holders in the future.
About exchange listing, we already have a few exchanges lined up and we will list the token as soon as we have an established community around the project.





been betting on their sportsbooks before and based from my experience, betting is so easy. but if possible they need to use the cryptocurrency that the player is using like btc or doge. because up until today your account will still be in USD. though i know, they are already working on it.
but their new look is great!
 also they rename their pre-match to sports again, as highly suggested.

We remember you and we cant wait to have you back. Don't hesitate to pm us, lets drop you some bonus for free bets.




Just a little reminder. Our platform is growing and we currently have some open positions. Kindly check out this topic and reach out if you are interested in joining us to make Betnomi a big success.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5261031.new#new
498  Economy / Gambling / Re: Betnomi.com | Crypto Centric 🏀Sportsbook and 🎲Casino - 🔥Biggest Jackpots on: October 09, 2020, 11:48:43 PM
Nice.

Unfortunately my country is now prohibited though.  Grin

You seem has not understand the latest reply of Betnomi, what I understand is there's no more restriction as they remove it based on their post.

Our terms and conditions has been updated now to include all restricted countries. Please review on our website.




It is good to see that the terms and agreement is updated, sadly my country is restricted to play in your Casino, I wonder why is the Philippines blocked to your site while lots of Crypto Casino don't block.

Nice.

Unfortunately my country is now prohibited though.  Grin

You seem has not understand the latest reply of Betnomi, what I understand is there's no more restriction as they remove it based on their post.

Our terms and conditions has been updated now to include all restricted countries. Please review on our website.

I understand it as the terms and condition added the list of restricted country.


We want to clarify this once and for all. There are some countries that have very loosely defined rules regarding gambling restrictions. We have multiple game providers with their own list of restricted countries and some of these are just 3-4 countries. Some other providers are restricting a lot of countries. We do have all the the possibly restricted countries in our terms and conditions for regulatory compliance reasons. However, there are some countries in that list where we have discretion to or not to restrict. Example of such countries is "Philippines" we are not obligated to block this but as precautionary measure, we added it.  Our rule of thumb is, if its illegal in your country, we say don't do it Smiley  

As for these 4 countries, (Curacao, The Netherlands, France and the United States of America) we will actively look for and restrict the accounts of users from these 4 countries as they are explicitly forbidden by the licensing authorities.
Hope this answers the questions regarding the restricted countries. Hopefully, everyone can read in between the lines.  Grin
499  Economy / Gambling / Re: Betnomi.com | Crypto Centric 🏀Sportsbook and 🎲Casino - 🔥Biggest Jackpots on: October 09, 2020, 07:09:21 PM

Everytime users won't be kept under tracking, from which jurisdiction the person is playing. The team can't remind the user everytime, because there'll be users who use VPN to bypass and use the services. In this case if error arises, then it creates conflict. By that time surely there'll be controversy on refunding. Several such incidents have taken place on other Gambling platforms. Here betnomi needs to have a clear condition to be followed.





Have read all pages from the beginning mate. In fact, i asked Betnomi 2 times to clearly state the prohibited countries but they haven't officially responded yet. Hope this time they answer

Our terms and conditions has been updated now to include all restricted countries. Please review on our website.

Not to be a resident of Afghanistan, Antigua and Barbuda, Australia, Belgium, Bulgaria, Cayman Islands, Cuba, Cyprus, China, Czech Republic, Denmark, France, and other French territories, Germany, Greece, Hong Kong SAR, Hungary, Iran, Iraq, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Kahnawake, Libya, Macau, Myanmar, Netherlands, Netherlands Antilles, North Korea, Poland, Portugal, Saudi Arabia, Serbia, Singapore, Spain, Sudan, Syria, The Philippines, Turkey, United Kingdom, United States and other U.S. territories, Vatican City, Yemen.

(please be aware of particular country exclusions for Casino – Games – Live Casino, Poker and Bingo); Betnomi reserves the right to block the access to Betnomi.com and not to pay the winning to the players from the mentioned countries.
500  Economy / Gambling / Re: Betnomi.com | Crypto Centric 🏀Sportsbook and 🎲Casino - 🔥Biggest Jackpots on: October 09, 2020, 05:04:34 PM
@betnomi, I tried my best to search the whole website as well as this thread but there is nothing mentioned about the withdrawal fees. Is there any withdrawal fee applicable when I will go for a withdrawal or is it free? Can I withdraw any amount in USD or is there a minimum amount that I need to have before I can go for a withdrawal?


There is currently a withdrawal fee of +0.00040000 for BTC and of +0.00600000 for ETH. For other coins, the fees are negligible. The minimum withdrawal for Bitcoins is 10$ and for every other coins is 5$.





@betnomi

I joined there but while I see 3 promo on the front page there is actually no way to read any more information and after making the account I could find how to claim the bonuses or any link about it at all.

I see 2 promos on the front page that are welcome bonus and the free $50 esports bet but there is actually no page or link to read more about it like how to claim those bonuses. I tried my best and in the account section there is a link for Bonuses but there it shows as - No record found.

I would appreciate if someone can give a guide on how to claim those bonuses because there is no live support either who can help find more details. Maybe the casino is new and they are working about it yet.

We are currently optimizing our promo page to display details and rules of all our promos. Upon registration for new users, they will automatically receive a message with all our available promos and on login for existing users. There is going to be a lot of promos and bonuses available all the time. In the meantime, we are offering exclusive bonuses to the first few users that want to try our platform. Feel free to pm us for special bonuses.
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