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5181  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Etherum mining error on: July 14, 2016, 04:35:54 AM
Even the current AMD APUs can't access enough GPU ram to mine Ethereum with (I see 2GB as an OPTION on a couple of my motherboards with the 7860K, but the system crashes when I TRY to use that setting).

 Even if they could do so, they'd likely only be good for 2-3 MH I'd guess due to their VERY SLOW memory access compared to even 3-4 generation old GPU cards.



5182  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Anyone use dust filters on their miners? on: July 14, 2016, 04:30:22 AM
I prefer to put the dust filters on the fans I feed air into my mining area with - a 20x20 furnace-type filter makes a VERY good match with common box-type fans.
5183  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: July 14, 2016, 04:23:06 AM
It varies pretty often - Batches 7 and 9 only things available as of a few seconds ago.

5184  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: July 13, 2016, 05:31:02 AM

Why would they do something that they have not done on the last three devices they have released?  They NEVER mine at the advertised hashrate.

 Last 3?
 Most S5's mined at or better than at advertised hashrate.
 Ditto the S5+ as I recall.
 S7.... well, iffy on the early batches.

 Last *2* have been an issue....
5185  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: Bitcoin Meetup Fort Wayne Indiana on: July 12, 2016, 06:49:16 AM
Haven't been there in a very long time - but have quite a bit of family in the area and was born there.

5186  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Is there an app that can schedule frequency changes on S7/S9 ? Thanks! Anyone? on: July 12, 2016, 06:44:49 AM
Should be some way to do that using the standard cron in pretty much every LINUX distribution.
5187  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: With the halving now official, how much hash power are you turning off? on: July 12, 2016, 06:17:57 AM
I didn't have any Bitcoin hashrate left to turn off, so zero.

 9-)

5188  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: July 12, 2016, 06:01:56 AM
20 amp NEMA 5 sockets are NOT standard in U.S. homes and most businesses, though they're more frequently found in shop/industrial type business locations.

 You will find exceptions SOMETIMES in newer homes or homes that have upgraded wiring, used mostly for medium-sized window A/C units and washers, or sometimes in garages/shop areas.

 You'll also find occasional NEMA 6 220v series sockets, usually intended for use with electric driers, electric hot water heaters, or large (most 25,000 BTU and up) window A/C units.

The STANDARD is a NEMA 5-15 dual socket for almost ALL outlets in the large marjority of US homes.



 Most of the power connectors I've seen in the pair of hospitals I've been in this year were GFI NEMA 5-20.

 This is not a "hospital grade" connector as such, GFI is specified for any location that wetness or other higher risk of shock hazards can be found, though that "higher risk" issue is why pretty much all line-powered medical equipment specifies connection to a GCI-equipped circuit and therefore that type of outlet is the norm in most areas of a hospital.



 
5189  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: July 11, 2016, 08:21:00 PM

also im confused about this guy talking about 1000w ac in not being able to produce 2000w dc out....a typical house uses 10/15a breakers in its rooms. older houses use 10a while newer ones have larger ones. my house has 20a breakers for all the 110v sockets so im one of the lucky ones. at 20a i can push about 2300w dc.

 The BREAKER might be rated at 20 amps,  but most common house 110V SOCKETS are rated at 15 amps (and I believe that applies to BOTH sockets combined on a typical dual-socket outlet).

 Keep in mind that a breaker can have MANY outlets on it.


 Also, breakers derate with heat - if you don't run AC in the room your breaker box is in, it's not uncommon for the breakers to start tripping at a fair bit lower than their RATED capasity - especially if you have any of the "2 circuits on one breaker" type breakers, those things overheat if you look at them funny.

 Last place I was in was running a QO box - the 15 AMP rated 2-in-one-slot breakers on some of my mining circuits were typically tripping at 10 AMPS or so actual draw (appx. 1KW "at the wall" A2 Mega Terminators) if the outside ambient got over 90F (inside in that room ran 4-5 degrees hotter). This was on a breaker RATED for 104F (40C, which is the NORM for every breaker I've ever seen).

 I'm not sure if the actual outlet has to be derated for temperature.
 Wire does derate, but that's already taken into account in the NEMA code wire size guides on a quite conservative basis.
5190  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Anyone know about an Industrial Rate for Electricity on: July 02, 2016, 02:08:10 AM
It varies with the specific local power company you are dealing with - but "industrial" is generally a VERY HIGH USAGE (hundreds of kilowatts or MEGAwatts of draw) plan anywhere I've seen.

5191  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: New to me - Terraminer IV on: July 02, 2016, 02:05:56 AM
Unless you have FREE power, those things are so inefficient by current standards that ANY price would be "wrong".

 I ran on Slush's pool for a while when I was bitcoin mining, didn't have any issues with it and they have a good reputation.

5192  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Radeon released RX 480. (Card is Released) on: July 02, 2016, 01:48:55 AM
This is what I came home to today.



 And that's WHY you use powered risers.
5193  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: July 02, 2016, 01:46:48 AM
I wonder why the default freq on these is only 550.  Same number of chips as previous batches, so no doubt the same board.  Why lower the freq and thereby the hashrate?  Are these QA failures on some level?

 Yield and manufacturing variation on a very NEW manufacturing process node, I'd guess.
 Batch 1 seemed to have some MAJOR issues with not being able to meet it's specs on a lot of units - similar to the early S7 batches, then they redesigned the hashboards on the S7 to use a buck and fewer chips running at higher voltage, thus managing to meet the hashrate spec while eating noticeably more power....

5194  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Community brainpan - please discuss and debate desirable features for a miner on: July 02, 2016, 01:46:12 AM
Yeah, both side nice SOLID heatsinks would tend to help with making good reliable thermal contact long-term.

 Might be a little more expensive, but heatsinks don't cost all THAT much.



 That reminds me - why do you keep specifying you are locked into the "1 kilowatt power consumption" ballpark on the design?

5195  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Ethereum mining still profitable? on: July 02, 2016, 01:42:34 AM

The big players of ethereum don't need to mine, they bought the coin when it was cheap and have millions now.  The softfork also will not pass because they discovered a vulnerability in the code that is suppose to cause problems for the miners and possibly blockchain but im not 100% on that.  The big pools will accept a fork once something stable is proposed in hopes that it will be bullish to the market and raise the price.

The Ethereum devs really are screwing up big time.  How they can propose a fork that has further problems is beyond me unless they want to crash the market.

They still have 14 days to solve the soft fork problem and implement it. I hope the new one does not have the problems.

I am mining with the 280X at the moment. It seems in 2 months, my mining operation will not be profitable.

If you use the default clocks and do not undervolte, you will not be profitable. If you use undervolt, one more month.

For high electricity price place, it is getting harder week after week to be profitable. The difficulty is too high.

 That's why I am moving (and others have already moved) to a land of VERY VERY low electric rates.
5196  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: CGMiner support for bitfury 100th mine on: July 01, 2016, 12:53:26 AM
Sounds like a question to direct to MegaBigPower.
5197  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Mining Software compatible to Windows XP 32bit? on: July 01, 2016, 12:52:27 AM
It's about running a 64 bit OS in many cases - Ethereum in particular REQUIRES a 64 bit OS to mine on.

 XP works for ASIC USB-based miners, but those aren't very efficient and the miner software tends to crash out a lot, IME.

 You CAN "mine" FoldCoin with XP - via running FAH.
5198  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: How plausible is this invention? on: July 01, 2016, 12:44:07 AM
Space heater might actually be one of the few VIABLE ideas - you need the heat anyway, so it's essentially a "free electric" situation for the mining part.

 The Bitfury and 21 visions of "a bitcoin miner in every appliance" are not viable, the overhead costs would quickly get too high and would make the resulting appliances non-competative VERY quickly.

5199  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Radeon RX 480 --- How many LTC can it mine per day? on: July 01, 2016, 12:27:01 AM
To achieve 0.1 LTC/day, the card would have to mine about 10 MH/s - which is *AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE* greater than any GPU has ever managed.

 NOT POSSIBLE.

 I seriously doubt the card will be able to manage 2 MH/s, much less 10.
1.something it MIGHT manage - but that's entirely due to it clocking quite a bit higher than any other card ever used for Litecoin, and DESPITE it having fewer stream units than some cards that HAVE been used for Litecoin in the past.

 Keep in mind that Scrypt wasn't a "memory intensive" protocal to anywhere near the same degree that Ethereum is - it was more limited by the processing units x clock rate.

 I stand by my original reply, it won't be as efficient as ANY Scrypt-related ASIC has managed - closer than anything that came before, but STILL inferior to the original-generation GC3355 much less anything more current - and those GC3355 units are NOT PROFITABLE any more unless you have free electric.


That means Radeon RX480 is overrated, in your opinion?

 No, it just means don't try to compete with ASIC in mining with a GPU (which means forget any coin that uses the SHA256, Scrypt, or X11 algoruthms).

 The 480 looks like a VERY GOOD option for mining Ethereum with, among other usages.
5200  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Community brainpan - please discuss and debate desirable features for a miner on: July 01, 2016, 12:24:46 AM
<snip>
I am definitely in favor of monolithic heatsinks, but I also suggest that double-siding should get better heat transfer to air which should result in quieter fans. However, I'm not a mechanical engineer or heat transfer guy so I don't have the numbers to back that up, it's just an intuition.<snip>

The single problem with mono heatsinks as usually done (on the back of a board) is one of thermal transfer. If a chips is dissipating more than 10-15w then great care has to be taken regarding thermal vias and contact bumps on the board/heat sink interface to make sure enough heat can flow from the chip through the board/vias to the sinks. Even if done properly a naked chip is still going to run a fair bit hotter than one with a topside heat sink which in turn will directly set what the maximum speed/Vcore can be.

Now maybe if the chips can be mounted on one side of the board and all other components in the other to allow a single large heatsink contacting the tops of the chips-- that could work as it takes the boards thermal resistance right out of the picture.

 Trying to heatsink a chip THROUGH the board is just a nightmare of inefficiency. VERY VERY bad idea.

 On the other hand, trying to get multichips to make good contact with a single HS on top of them isn't fun either - but it's a TON more efficient when you can get it to work.
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