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521  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The Best Time to Become a Trader on: May 15, 2017, 04:38:01 PM
any time you can become a trader. but my suggestion, when you start the better the earlier you already have a basic trade and try with a small capital. so you will not lose much in the beginning, and small capital is very good for learning.

Yes. We need to start with a small capital that is not terrible to lose, but also to ensure that the funds remain. Before you start, you need to learn the most important principles of trade.
Actually, there are some platforms that allow you virtual trading, where you can test you knowledge and your skill in trading without spending any dime just so you can get your feet wet in the market, and I found this really helpful especially for those who have no skill in it, because it guides you through the basics of trading, and prevents you from doing bad decisions that otherwise will prove to be a costly lose in the real market.
i do not think that virtual trading can help you so much. you need to have real involvement in trading and only then you can get some good experience in trading. because in virtual trading you do not have any worry about losing your money and therefore you may not be giving proper attention toward t. but if you will invest even a little amount of money in trading then you will certainly show great interest there and will tray to invest your money in such places where you have more chances of making money. therefore it is too much important to take active part in trading, if you want to get some experience.
What you said it is perfectly right, if we do virtual trading we can not show interest on that because if we lose also no problem, we will not lose our money. So when you invested your money, then you will show more interest because that is your money and if you lose means it is a loss for you. So try to spend small amount and learn to trade. Real experience is the best lesson for anything to learn.
522  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How is trading *not* gambling? on: May 15, 2017, 04:31:51 PM
Gambling is a situation involving exactly 50-50 chance of getting either success or failure. Now if you succeed to change 50-50 to even 51-49 through your skills, past experience, knowledge, education, etc. then it no longer remains gambling. It becomes special class of investment called trading which involves speculation about trading items based on skills and knowledge.

It is still gambling, as you don't have 100% control of what's happening. Life on its own, and all the decisions you make, are a gamble. However you can increase your chances of being on the winning stroke while gambling if you do research, get knowledge, know what you are doing, and have a goal and confidence.

This all is missing from the dice gambling, where you are playing against the odds, where no knowledge or skills are required.

So no, trading isn't to be compared with all the casino games, but it surely has a gambling touch to it. It's never risk-free, but is anything in without any risks?
No there is nothing without risk, but only, for this reason, we can't be considered Trading is gambling. We have a lot of thigs to prove that Trading is not gambling. In Trading, if we wait for some time patiently I am sure we will make a profit. But this is impossible in gambling. Here no option for making profit only luck will help us. But in trading, we have many options to make a profit.
523  Economy / Speculation / Re: What price would you stop buying Bitcoin? on: May 15, 2017, 04:21:41 PM
You can't stop people to buying Bitcoin because even this time Bitcoin is really high still have someone buy BItcoin for invest their money and they are really sure Bitcoin will be up again.
We can't stop others to buying bitcoins. but OP is asking where you will you stop buying bitcoins. I already stopped to buy bitcoins. today's price is $1750 if I buy BTC for this price and wait for profit means. Max to max how much profit I will make in 1 or 2 month. And more people will not buy 1 BTC including me because I don't have that much money. Taking a risk with the big amount I can't afford so I stopped to buy bitcoins.
524  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How much risk in bitcoin investement ? on: May 15, 2017, 04:14:44 PM
Yes There is always A risk . No Risk No Gain . Same Thing Applies here .

What i can suggest You is to Monitor Your Btc Portfolio On every Week Basis and have some stop Loss Limit fixed and You can divest your amount when It reaches your stop loss Limit . This way You Will be Minimizing Your Risk .

I agree, and to add to that, the higher the risk, the highest the return! That's basically how it is. The more risky your investment then the higher the returns. Look at the first adopters of bitcoins have profited so much. They risked believing in something and now they are filthy rich! Especially those people who had thousands of bitcoins when the prices were just a fraction of a cent each.

Yes how much risk we take that much profit we will make but don't take over risk how much you can afford that much money you can put in risk and do business. Suppose if you lose means you can lead your life with your extra money. If you invest all money in this and lost means your future will be too worst. So think twice before investing any amount.
525  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Returning to bitcoin after 2 years! shocked at confirmation time! on: May 15, 2017, 04:11:26 PM
This was not the bitcoin i had seen!

What in the world has happened to bitcoin


It is almost one day and the transaction has not been confirmed and as a result i am not able to trade in any exchange..

i have heard that the transaction confirmation time has increased but never expected this worst case.. at this rate everyone will soon abandon bitcoin and this is the reason perhaps bitcoin dominance has come down significantly in the crypto space
That is true, confirmation time has increased in last few months slightly, but the change is not so big as you may think.
It is more about what fee are you wiling to pay for a transaction, because if you want to get your transaction confirmed in the first block, then you should just go with a fee that is high enough to be very attractive to miners. After all, they have profits from doing that, so they are seeking for the transactions that give the biggest bounty: where the fee is highest.

Usually, average fee right now is somewhere between 35-50k satoshi, not 20k like previously.
I advise you to use https://bitcoinfees.21.co/ , it is very useful for doing transactions at blockchain.
Because of this late transaction now all sites are increased the confirmation fee to get fast confirmation. Before it was standard fee 0.0002 BTC if we pay this amount the transaction will confirm within few minutes. But now it's doubled we have to pay 0.0004 BTC to get fast confirmation. The speed increased, but the fee is bit high we can't do anything we must pay.
526  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best Gambling Movie on: May 14, 2017, 05:45:26 PM
What is that 21 movie is that the complete movie title? Id just watch King of gamblers and i really loved it they can make the card be changed for real those powers so amusement Tongue is anybody here can do that? Not only in the movie but in real life,
Ys 21 is the movie name there is no other title for this movie. You just type 21 in google you will get the movie details. It is a fantastic movie for gamblers. The director narrated story with the point of how real gambler will cheat casino's and what all problems he will face if the casino knows that he is cheating.
This movie is really very impressive. Every gambler must like the film. The director told how we could make strategies in gambling clearly. And we found there are a lot of information regarding this gambling in this movie. And I like one more movie Ocean's Eleven this is also good to watch and entertaining.
527  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you guys think about Casino and dice games? on: May 14, 2017, 05:40:56 PM
Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?


I am not a person who understands how a gambling system works especially those associated with provably fair. But I'm sure there are a lot of people out there who really understand about it and surely if anything goes wrong with the system which casinos offer, surely these people will let us know in various ways. For me, trust is absolutely necessary if we want to engage in online gambling.

Yes many players will keep on watching casino offers bonus and other things from casinos. And they will inform if any issues they found in a casino. I also not understand this gambling how exactly it will work. But most of them are fair enough. And your final word is 100% correct trust is must necessary if we want to engage online gambling.
528  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: May 14, 2017, 05:33:37 PM
Hey! Good day i really need some answers because its about gambling in your life and other people are playing for it with heart and i just thought that how can gambling help you with your life? and do you gain something from it? does it help you to be wise or worst your attitude will change.. i need answers please!
There are only two things that you can positively get from gambling. The first one and the most important thing for most gamblers, the profit, the money. If you're earning out of gambling, then it's a good thing because you don't have to grind in the outside world to get money. You only have to gamble.

The second thing is the experience. To be honest, most gamblers out there are wise decision makers. Every step that they do is calculated and thought of logically inside their minds before they speak of it. There are experiences that you can only get from the casino and from gambling.

I agree that people play gambling because of money and other are experience. Many people that are starting here in bitcoin is very urged to earn bitcoin in fast way so that they see that gambling is one of that. There are some people that look only on the earnings and not on the way of earning income. And some people find the best way to eaen gambling. Because some people look on how it will help gambling in their life. For me gambling is one of the most effective teacher that teach experiences and lessons in life.

I don't think that gambling will help people in their life. I rarely heard this type of news from some people. Most of the gamblers say the gambling will spoil their life. And this is a real fact. In this gambling world, only the lucky people can survive and rest of all end with the loss. I am not in profit side and also not lost more money both are equal.
529  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much have you lost / win on Bitcoin dice ? on: May 14, 2017, 05:27:28 PM
Bitcoin dice, i have lost once full week signature payment (0.04 btc), after that i never played in dice with huge bitcoins, just now use to play for fun, only now gambling in sports betting.

Ouch. Considering that you've worked for your signature payments, if this happened to me that would be quite regretful. Though it would be more acceptable than losing money that you've earned from your day job. I tend not to involve myself especially in dice because I've lost a one time roll of around 0.1 that I earned in trading. It's really hard to bear but that was a lesson that made me avoid dice all in all
I generally try to play less gambling for bitcoins, and I do everything because I almost always lose. Whether there is a bet in another currency, then this is where Bitcoin for some reason is unlucky, I always lose it.
Which games do you play? Becasue casino games people will always lose I agree but in skill games, we have a chance to make money in long term. I also lose money in a dice game. While playing this game, i don't expect any profit from this game. How much I can afford that much money only I invest, and I know before only I will lose that money. Becasue my winning chance in a dice game is very less.
530  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do you care? on: May 14, 2017, 05:22:57 PM
I have a curiosity...

In a month on this website all that i saw are gambling discussion, idiot scam accusations and so on...

This topic is about how fair are the casinos...Why do you care? If the fair system is ok or so on...you will lose money legally same shit..

If a casino is fair with what is helping you? When you go to a casino and play on slots you will ask the girls if the bet you did is fair?

Well it's never really fair when you talk about casinos basically because they have the edge over you considering that most games are luck based. So of course, casinos have an advantage over the players. Once you deposit a capital, you should be aware of this and just go with the flow and enjoy playing

The casinos always have the edge over players. They will just tell people that we don't have a house edge, but it is not true. And I think no one will ask casino girls our bet is fair or not because the girls always work for casinos. When you are in long run win they will come and disturb you they won't help anyone to win money in gambling.
531  Economy / Economics / Re: I have 12 BTC in my Account, How should I invest this?? on: May 13, 2017, 06:04:11 PM
I think you have more choices to make a profit from 12BTC you have in your wallet. I will give you two typical ways. The simplest and sure way to make a profit is to wait for Bitcoin's price to rise, sell it and you will be profitable. Or you can also use the amount of capital you have, investing in some kind of altcoin has the potential to make a profit. This method requires a bit of knowledge, you need to learn skills. If you know how, then it will help you earn a lot. That's just my opinion, the decision is yours
Holding your bitcoins in your wallet is a good idea. Now the price is very high and we are expecting more in coming days. It may cross $2k this month's end so holding your coins is the best option. Other than this you have options to do trading or investing on casino sites. You can split your capital and do this business you can make a profit. But you need more knowledge in this field.
532  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Where and which part of day do you gamble? on: May 13, 2017, 05:59:47 PM
There's no right place for me to gamble and there's no right time for me to gamble. I just feel it when I want and it is depending on my mood, I'm not planning my gambling activity, I just gamble whenever and wherever I want. That is the most comfortable way of gambling.
It is not about the right time or the right place. I think he just want to ask about your hobby while gambling. Which and what day do you usually gamble and make your bet
He said the same thing whenever he feels good he will play gambling what is wrong in his statement. For me also there is no particular time to do gamble. Sometimes if any work pressure comes to get relax, i do gamble in office. Not much time I go cafeteria and few minutes I will spend time on some gambling sites. Not every time when I feel like to be alone that time I do like this.
533  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin treated as money in Australia from 1. july on: May 13, 2017, 05:54:00 PM
This is what my friend talking about since last day. Bitcoin is becoming mainstream and more country will be accepting bitcoin as currency. We expect more country will follow suit. Congratulations to Australia!
Yeah soon after bitcoin adoption from Japan more Countries have started to use bitcoin in a large scale. As a part now Australia have started to use bitcoin similar to mainstream currency. By the coming years we can expect more and more users into the bitcoin as well digital currency network.
Bitcoin is growing so fast all over the world. A few months back Japan accepted, and now Australia may be after few months some more countries will accept this is possible. This is a good move from Bitcoin. That means people are addicted to Bitcoin, and daily more new people are entering this Bitcoin world. I hope coming days we see more good news from other countries.
534  Economy / Economics / Re: Which one is good, trading or investing? on: May 13, 2017, 05:49:50 PM
Investing your money in real estate and bitcoin is better because it is a possible income.
By using bitcoin you can invest and trade at once, because the fluctuations in bitcoin often happen if you just want to invest enough to hold it in the wallet for several months


agreed, most traders do this and applied this most often actually. For me you cannot separate them because, how can you do trade if you're not going to make an invest in the platform to buy some coins so that you can do trade to their exchange site.

You can get bitcoin from other sources and not just by investing. There are places where you buy bitcoin by fiat and also there are methods to earn bitcoin both of which are very popular. After that we can trade those coins for future. Hold them as long as we want then sell them, or buy more and sell when prices rise. But again buying and selling on the same site is good as well.

Investing in real estate is good thinking, but Bitcoin is acceptable in real estate? In my country, we don't have this option. We have to either trading or invest in casino sites. So most of the people do only trading to make money from Bitcoin. Investment need high capital plus more patience to make a profit. I don't have trust on long term profit, so I do only trading.
535  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do you convince people into you using Bitcoin? on: May 11, 2017, 06:57:45 PM
I always used money term to make them interested, and I always show them what bitcoin can do and what method can be used to earn bitcoin, but I must admit it is a bit difficult to convince someone to used bitcoin, some of them don't like the idea of new payment method
It's like how my friend introduce me this bitcoin. Because at first I was not really believing it or im not really into it although he already told me his earning income, not tried it. But then again he convinced me again and  I got to think of it and why not try? There's nothing wrong with trying then I have it the proof, i earned and now Im really thankful to my friend of mine for not getting tired of convincing me.
See here no need to convince anyone, just tell them what all benefits you will get it from Bitcoin. And how bitcoin will help in your daily life. Once people know about this bitcoin use and price of the bitcoin automatically, they will convince and ask you how to earn Bitcoin.
536  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What type of sports you love in sports betting and why? on: May 11, 2017, 06:54:09 PM
Hi, guys , I am just wondering what type of sports you love in sports betting? Does choosing that type of game gives you more advantage than other sports or you just love it because that is your favorite sport?

Please do share some inputs here.. Grin
Well in my own personal experience and personal choice i always go in a popular sports betting like horse racing, boxing, and basketball because they are known and popular almost a year and 80% of people around the world who go for a sports betting has this three choices at their top of their list.
Horse racing is universal betting all over the world people will like this betting from poor to rich people play this betting. And remaining sports depend on country fav sports people like. For example in your country boxing and basketball is famous. But in my country, criekct and football are famous like that people will choose their fav games.
537  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's your favorite casino game or slot? on: May 10, 2017, 02:23:51 PM
I think Dice offers the best chances and the best flexibility out of all casino games. It's very fast, simple and responsive, it's good for both new and old players and doesn't require any specific skills to play. Although sometimes it can become boring, but usually you can quickly switch games in most gambling sites.
Dice game is easy to play and also a very exiting game. For this, we no need any experience anyone can play this game without having any knowledge. The beauty of this game is it will treat same for both experience and new players. There is no difference in game result. But if you play more time you will get bored. For short time good entertainment.
538  Other / Archival / Re: Do you think that you're addicted to gambling? on: May 10, 2017, 02:19:36 PM
Addiction means too much and we know that too much with everything is going to be bad for us, emotionally and physically. And if you don't want to get into the poverty line because of gambling, you should be aware that it is possible to happen for you. So if you will not do something for stopping your addiction, you are near to it.

I am so confused from what you have said. You said that if you will not do something to stop your addiction, you are near to it, but the thing is, you are addicted that is why you need to stop, so why will you say we are close or near if we are really addicted. I think these is the mistake most addicted gamblers think, they are thinking that they are not addicted to it, but the truth is, they are already addicted to it.

Addiction is also not a negative trait so don't worry too much about it because all skills and comfort techniques start from controlled addiction, I help addicts who often experience high emotions not by telling them to retire, but need to set the time and learn from defeat every day, any defeat will be a power to rise smartly and addiction in this case is needed.

What you will learn from defeat. Is this help our next bet? I think no. In gambling win and loss is not in our hand it depends on our luck. I lost many games in sports betting, but I didn't find anything to learn from that loss. The only thing I found that I don't want to play more games and try to avoid daily gambling.
539  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is more risky. Sport or casino bets ? on: May 10, 2017, 02:14:26 PM
Gambling is always risky.  But you can always find some safer bets with sports than you can in just casino bets.

But for me casino bets are riskier because everything there is automated and the house will always have the advantage if you will gamble there. I find sports betting as safer way of gambling just like you said. Because you can have the advantage on it by doing some analysis and the house will doesn't have control for each game.

They had both high risk but I can say that casino bets are more riskier since we are using our barehands on it and sometimes we are not pretty lucky to hit those winnings while in sportbetting we should need to spot on who is the most advantages guys and who are the underdogs so that we could win. And we if we are a fan kid on sports we are betting on well we can truly earn from that since we have great knowledge on what we are betting on.

Yes the sports players and sports likers will guess the game result easily. And for them, it is easy to make money in sports betting. Casino games are more riskier than sports betting. Here we can not guess the results, and there is no hope that we will win our bet. Casino games are a dead investment and unprofitable.
540  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is there any insurance service for gamblers to retain heavy losses....??? on: May 10, 2017, 02:10:01 PM
I have been thinking of an insurance service for gamblers, in which they were supposed to pay regular premiums. And while placing bets can get back at least a small amount back if the lost amount is a huge one. Myself too haven't come across such services. What you people think of an insurance for gambling.
According to me there is no Company that Offer you Insurance Facilities for your Gambling activities because Gambling is just a Game of Luck and Not a Business, So No Company Owner wants to Insure a Game of Luck and I also Suggest you to Leave Gambling and do some other Business because it's good for your Future........

i think so because the company don't want to risk their money to give insurance for gamblers to retain heavy losses, its about gamblers responsibilities when they are playing gambling and its not for other people. i think the insurance company don't want to give their insurance to cover the gamblers but its different if gamblers is borrow the money from them because gamblers should give payback to that company.

The main reason of insurance company that's why they offering that kind of service because they are expecting their customer to not any accident happened so that they can have profit on monthly payment from their customer. So why they will be decided to establish an insurance for gambling while the possibility of lossing is very high and it is unprofitable.

There is no insurance company for this gambling loss. But if we lose a huge amount in the casino they will give some percentage of coins to play again in their casino. To get this, we have to play a big amount of money. Means they will give some packages we have to choose, and we must play that amount then only we will get this offer.
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