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521  Other / Politics & Society / Re: U.S. Aircraft Strike ISIS Targets in Iraq on: August 11, 2014, 11:52:27 AM
Unsurprising, US military direct involvement was just a matter of time after the Iraqi Army turned tail and ran from a numerically inferior ISIS force. And given that we had a pretty large part in creating this mess, I can't say I take much issue with it vs. other military campaigns.
522  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Poll: Who Should Be the First Woman On a Modern Dollar Bill? on: August 11, 2014, 11:29:18 AM
I like the idea of Eleanor Roosevelt and Abigail Adams. Perhaps someone like Margaret Fuller or Mary Harris Jones too.
523  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Obama's 'junior varsity' ISIS is beheading children on: August 11, 2014, 11:28:12 AM
And do you think the humanitarians on the left give a damn? The muzzies are slaughtering Christians so why should the left give a damn? And where is the UN? No outcry regarding violations of human rights? When you look at this and realize how silent the world is when muzzies go on the rampage just remember that hillary went to the UN and filed charges against AZ for daring to pass a law to try and curb illegal immigration by asking for federal ID from immigrants legally required to carry that ID. Now doesn't her action look foolish and inane?
524  Other / Off-topic / Re: Biblical Prayer - driver version on: August 11, 2014, 10:46:59 AM
The only new thing about prayer ever invented by man is making more and more excuses for why prayers are not answered,not in our days.
You mean not answered by God - people pray to other folk all the time, and get those prayers answered - including yourself.  Granted, not all the time, but, we all have.
525  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Key Points about the Jewish religion on: August 11, 2014, 10:42:51 AM
I read somewhere that Jews cannot be near the homeless because it could turn them poor, which is against the Jewish religion, nor can they walk under ladders .
526  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Key Points about the Jewish religion on: August 11, 2014, 10:31:41 AM
What about cheapness? Are Jews more or less generous than Christians?
527  Economy / Economics / Re: Tax crew:Is Not-for-profit rental a"property held for the production of income"? on: August 11, 2014, 09:35:08 AM
Can you clarify on what you mean by a "not for profit rental".
528  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Misconceptions of Israeli Culture on: August 11, 2014, 09:17:54 AM
The Book of Genesis is mainly symbolic in nature. The six days of creation could have been billions of years. A day for God is like a thousand years for us or a billion years for us.

And whether or not the Bible is true, a lot of cultures, when speaking about their kings, would create stories about how they talked to the Gods. This is how history was passed down in ancient times. They would make up myths and legends to talk about their civilization's origins and to talk about their kings.
Well, that is 100% of religion. I specifically pointed out the myths and legends. So yes, necessarily.
529  Other / Off-topic / Re: Biblical Prayer - driver version on: August 09, 2014, 01:07:06 PM
From Calvary Grace Mail

http://www.calvaryphx.com/

"The prayer of a righteous person has great power as it is working" (James 5:16b).

This verse could be translated, "The fervent, hot-hearted prayer of a righteous person is very effective."

Too often our prayers are general and unspecific. We may pray, "Lord, please bless my family," or "Lord, give wisdom to my friend," or maybe "Lord, please bring peace to the world."

Now, there's nothing wrong with praying for these things, but they are very general, and you know they are somewhat half-hearted and lack enthusiasm.

James talks about a prayer that is "fervent" and a heart that is heated in its desire to see a specific answer from God. These prayers are effective and powerful.

Maltbie Babcock was a strong young man who walked away from a potential baseball career to become a preacher and an evangelist. You may know him best by the hymn he wrote, "This Is My Father's World." He once talked about the key to effective prayer: "Our prayers are to mean something to us if they are to mean anything to God."

Today, pray something specific for someone. Pray with enthusiasm, expecting God to answer and see what He does.
Jesus CLEARLY equate Faith + ACTION= Forgiveness.

Paul never heard of "The Lord's Prayer", and would have never taught it because Paul's "faith" never required actions/deeds.

Now, we do have Jesus saying this (John 5:24):

Jesus: Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.

How do you reconcile that?  Jesus says nothing there about works earning eternal life.  Agree?
530  Other / Off-topic / Re: Biblical Prayer - driver version on: August 09, 2014, 12:04:50 PM
From Calvary Grace Mail

http://www.calvaryphx.com/

"The prayer of a righteous person has great power as it is working" (James 5:16b).

This verse could be translated, "The fervent, hot-hearted prayer of a righteous person is very effective."

Too often our prayers are general and unspecific. We may pray, "Lord, please bless my family," or "Lord, give wisdom to my friend," or maybe "Lord, please bring peace to the world."

Now, there's nothing wrong with praying for these things, but they are very general, and you know they are somewhat half-hearted and lack enthusiasm.

James talks about a prayer that is "fervent" and a heart that is heated in its desire to see a specific answer from God. These prayers are effective and powerful.

Maltbie Babcock was a strong young man who walked away from a potential baseball career to become a preacher and an evangelist. You may know him best by the hymn he wrote, "This Is My Father's World." He once talked about the key to effective prayer: "Our prayers are to mean something to us if they are to mean anything to God."

Today, pray something specific for someone. Pray with enthusiasm, expecting God to answer and see what He does.
531  Other / Off-topic / Biblical Prayer - driver version on: August 09, 2014, 11:59:43 AM
Given the interest in the topic of prayer, it helps to point out that if prayer is to be answered, it is dependent on object to which prayer is addressed.

I pray to my boss for a raise - he may answer in the positive.  I pray to my co worker for a raise - he may be willing, but it is not in his power to answer such a prayer.

And, with my boss, how I approach him/her when I pray will  make a difference also.  I come in disrespectful, how likely will the boss answer my prayer, compared to coming in respectful?

 

And prayer is just communication - usually we think of it in terms of a 'deity', but, the object of prayer is not by definition restricted to 'deity'.

So, when one is asking if prayer works, one is really asking if prayer to a 'deity' works.

This thread is looking at what the Bible says about praying.  One thing is clear from the Bible - not all prayers are going to be answered.

To start off, the following devotions give us a good start.
532  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Misconceptions of Israeli Culture on: August 09, 2014, 11:18:18 AM
My main point in the grand scheme of things is that organized religion is making a mockery of itself when you have groups that, instead of following the teachings of the text, derives their own interpretation of the text to justify actions for their own self interest.
533  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Misconceptions of Israeli Culture on: August 09, 2014, 11:04:10 AM
Like I said in the Key Points About The Jewish Religion thread, I am not religious by any stretch of the imagination. If people were truly religious, and stoned people to death for committing sins, then they themselves would go to prison for a long time.

The Bible has a good message overall, but some of the beliefs and some of the actions committed in the Bible, as well as punishments for sins, are way out-of-line of my moral code.


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Which was also written in 4 different languages.
True, but about 80% were written in Hebrew.
Which means there are 20% of the text that may have been misinterpreted. But then again, I have not read the religious text myself, so who's to say its not the least important 20%.
534  Other / Politics & Society / Re: State Atheism on: August 08, 2014, 06:04:56 PM
State atheism is the official promotion of atheism by a government

There are no countries that activlty/OFFICIALLY promote atheism in leiu of any recognized religion.

The USA allows people to practice atheism. Is that an example of, "state atheism"?
535  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Key Points about the Jewish religion on: August 08, 2014, 05:58:34 PM
From what I understand the Jews came up with monotheism in 600 B.C. when they took one of the babylonian g-----------------ds and made him above all others.
536  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Key Points about the Jewish religion on: August 08, 2014, 05:52:02 PM
sounds to me like this G-d you speak of is limited .
537  Other / Politics & Society / White House won’t commit on stopping potential ‘genocide’ in Iraq on: August 08, 2014, 04:31:34 PM
White House won’t commit on stopping potential ‘genocide’ in Iraq, but weighing options

WHITE HOUSE STOPS SHORT of committing US military to stopping a potential 'genocide' in Iraq, and whether doing so is in 'America's core interest' — as Islamic State militants seize Iraq's biggest Christian city and nearly 40,000 religious minorities are trapped on a mountainside.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/08/07/Obama-Flashback-Were-Leaving-Behind-a-Sovereign-Stable-and-Self-Reliant-Iraq
538  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Lost Emails Scandal Spreads to Top Obamacare Official on: August 08, 2014, 04:29:12 PM
What's to stop them, they know they can get away with it now, even though they're violating the law.....
539  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Misconceptions of Israeli Culture on: August 08, 2014, 04:17:52 PM
Which was also written in 4 different languages.
540  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Misconceptions of Israeli Culture on: August 08, 2014, 03:16:11 PM
Technicalities like these are what bugs me about organized religion. The books have been translated andinterpreted so many times, who know what the original text said. What I can safely assume is that the intentwas to feature stories and lessons to live a righteous life and not for legalinterpretation of the wording.
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