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521  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: June 21, 2017, 03:40:50 AM
Gambling becomes wrong when you're getting addicted to it. If you gamble with a certain amount like once every month or so. You should be okay.
Yes I agreed on you mate in that matter, because we know that being an addict is not a good thing to become.
So gambling is not a good habit at all.

Even you gamble with a certain amount every month, you can still be on the wrong decision. Because you have been allocating a budget to gamble, that's making it wrong. What if the time of needs come? When you have something important to buy or use that money for, for your relatives? But you did allocate a budget of it instead of that important matter. And that what makes gambling wrong.

That is why you have to allocate something for the gambling right? As long as you are balanced enough to not waste that money you have separated for own use or personal. And that is just the common dilemma for gamblers even if u said you would set it aside if you lose there is always the rage to gain or to take back what was lost to you in gambling. Generally it is wrong but it is definitely a fault in your own self righteousness.
522  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Best website for trading Altcoin's??? on: June 21, 2017, 03:19:33 AM
I first learned altcoin trading on poloniex and bittrex, until now i feel comfortable trading on both exchange sites.
And until now i've never had a problem with altcoin trading that i do.

There has had issues but it was just during the pumps of coins so probably those are just normal and Bittrex for me is a good exchangeing site because there are a lot of traders and good for investors. It is really good for newbies to try and experiment on it. It is also in my personal experience that it runs a good traders to traders deal. I could really recommend bittrex and im sure many will back me up here.
523  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Live]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | Multi Wallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟 on: June 20, 2017, 11:17:27 AM
Hello i already logged in and already entered a btc address but when i press the home button it returns me too log in again i tried it thrice already. is there something im missing in logging in?.. thanks
524  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin reduces unemployment on: June 20, 2017, 10:24:23 AM
Only people who are looking for job are counted as unemployed. If someone can earn enough money with bitcoin so he doesn't need to have a job we can say bitcoin reduced unemployment.

And its really great that btc really helps even just local persons who are enthusiast enough to manage to learn how bitcoin works. Making money through btc is gives anonymity to everyone. Even if mostly it takes time to have profit but nonetheless its a great oppurunity to learn even languages and or anyother programming application cause its nothing to lose for the opportunity.
525  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Ethereum in 5 years on: June 20, 2017, 07:54:30 AM
What would be your target price of Ethereum for 2022?
Since I know about the Bitcoin With eth then at that time the price of the one eth was about 0.009 btc/ETH .
But after a long discussion and 2 year travelling with the Bitcoin I seen that many person have invested Thier money in the ETH coin and found that the ETH is the good coin to get profit .
Because from.that time when the price was 0.001btc then they bought and now the price is 114times more and secondly the value of Bitcoin is get 4 times +now .
That is making cool to use such powerful coins for the Investment .
So here I am thinking that the trust of the people with the eth coin is more than what with Bitcoin we have .
So probably in my opinion may be its price will be equal to 1 btc or more because this increase in the price of ETH showing clearly what the ETH is .

Well i may not be an ethereum enthusiast but i had invested in eth most likely during its price peek that in just three months it had a very high price increase and so far it has not came down to below 200$. So if we are talking about 5 years from now then it may increase to what blockchain is having right now. Because more and more investors and not just some lowly investors but corporations and even government like Russia and i doubt ethereum would just crash knowing that it is also a billion dollar project.
526  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Do you have an idea to invest your bitcoin in offline business? on: June 20, 2017, 07:27:31 AM
Bitcoin is not an ordinary currency to use it investing anywhere, you should never invest your coins no matter what because when just holding them could bring you such a profit why would you invest them?

Yes it is not like other currencies. And this is the best thing in bitcoin because by just letting your btc's stay at your wallet it will give you a good income. But we don't have the same way of thinking, I want to invest not just with bitcoin but also with real property. Maybe as long as you will invest those bitcoins into another investment, it would be fine.

I guess the idea of investing in other coins is to have alternate business or profit so we would now stuck at one income. Like they say " Don't test depth of a river with two feet". Always have a backup plan and dont just stick to one income strategy. While you are investing in btc try looking for other businesses if not online they as the topic says go offline or even go in the physical world and look for something you could produce while you are in btc. For me i would want to have internet shops because this involves internet and it is a double profit because while you work online you while shooting two birds with one stone.
527  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Would Bitcoin ending up like Yahoo in the future? on: June 20, 2017, 06:41:14 AM
This the law of nature, if bitcoin not keep on developing and follow the development then one day it will collapsed and replaced by other coin, the technology is keep on advancing bitcoin will need to adapt to it to survive

That is mostly the speculations right now but blockchain is still the biggest transations right now and if somehow another coins could make something like with there own then i think that would be the start of its own downfall. Many altcoins have tried after bitcoin came out and so far the most successful and the longest is ethereum and chances are eth can make its own chain. For example ethereum somehow managaed to elevate its own technology and probably the has a lot more faster problem solving in terms of its issues but it is yet nowhere near the issues btc is facing right now.
528  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Next 5 years, BTC will be 50000US, ETH will be 5000 US, IOTA will be 500 US on: June 20, 2017, 02:44:36 AM
Next 3 years, BTC will be 30000US, ETH will be 3000 US, IOTA will be 500 US, LTE will be 500 US.

Do you believe it? How do you think all next 3 years.

I'm crossing my fingers that all your predictions come true, I have failth  on Bitcoin but not on other coins with the exception of ethereum but I don't think it will be in the next 3 years because sometimes price falls and takes weeks to recover so it's kinda a slow growth .


If only btc will only rise and never dump, but thats makes btc interesting theres a thrill on storing it knowing it may rise as our expected or beyond what we expect or can get lower unexpectedly, but just by waiting for the right time we can earn more.

Technically the lowing of the price can be called dump but i agree that there will never be dump in btc. And when segwit was added some altcoins have increased in price for example the litecoin and people might say its a bit too much but there is always reasons for pumping isnt it?Like more and more people are going in on this so why not take the chance, the same with eth and i see a bit of future increases for eth and maybe other ICO's but not all.
529  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: June 19, 2017, 03:05:51 PM
The most easy way to make a profit are no deposit bonuses because you can win but you can not lose anything. Skill based games have tendencial a higher chance to make a profit but this depend also on your personal skills.

Oh well you might have some point but for me, tere are different styles on how you approach gambling some would strategize and some would just base it on pure luck. Some would even think they are lukcy that they will go all in. And at the end of the day, if you win then you are lucky, but if you lose then its just not your day already and take that hint to go home.
530  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Price Prediction 2017 on: June 19, 2017, 06:07:49 AM
Since early this year, the trend in bitcoin price has been bullish and I believe it might even go beyond $4000 by the end of this year. As we speak, the price is almost hitting $3000. There have been oscillations in the past few days and this is what always happens before the price shoots.

Probably for there are really high chances as long as there would be other issues or some scams then it would smoothly go at 3500k. I know that we've all been following or speculating and having a keen eye on  the pricestock in this past few months, but my hypothesis is this price number because with the recent news on countries adapting it or countries using the blockchains, I myself wont exactly be suprised once it reaches 4k.
531  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How much BTC is required for trade? on: June 18, 2017, 05:51:21 AM
In my opinion there is really no limitions as long as you are willing to learn btc. Some have started in a some fare amounts just to experiment and once they had the grasp ot it then you can start doing higher odds in trading. But off course the most important factor in trading is how you mange and how good your knowledge and wisdon. An example would be to know how and when btc would increase and decrease depending on factors that you've searched.
532  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: June 18, 2017, 05:27:46 AM
If you were in desperate need for money / Bitcoins, what would you do? How to get it, earn it, whatw are your solutions and experiences? I wonder what people are ready to do when money is the problem.
If people were in desperate or needed money or bitcoins they could do illegal activities like selling drugs, robbing, scamming, and other illegal things which involves money. But if i were desperate in money i could go for bitcoin because i am seeing many people who has been rich using bitcoin and i am inspire by those people.
Then ,what if desperate in money in emergency .Those things you said that were illegal will be in the line of someone who's in rush need of money .For long term is in bitcoins and it doesnt in hurry or in true desperate like the OP post.
Maybe people who use illegal things to solve their problems like desperate money because first they can be stupid, or they already have no other option to be able to get money so he does something illegal



And sometimes even pro's need money for desperation and they would also like to go beyond the rules. But often times they just get simple punishments, where as even an average person would try that then people would just say that they are just the worst people. This are just some reality but there are also famous people who served severe punishments but just on some rare occasions. I guess the lack of profit for average or poor people is just whats wrong for the economy.
533  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When to leave the game? on: June 18, 2017, 04:42:22 AM
As you know that you need to stop and leave the game? How can you feel this moment. I almost always lose their money because they can't learn when to leave the game. I'm not sorry to lose. I have a lot of money not to lose, but I can't keep the winnings if I'm lucky.
What do you mean leaving the game in gambling? is it a kind of quitting in gambling or just when you played in gambling you need to leave at once if you are winning already.

If I am almost will always lose money on every bet in the earliest known gambling because they can't learn when to leave the game. then I will not regret losing. because I have a lot of money not to lose, but I can not save if I'm fortunate. so make I have to stop my game in order not to lose too much

I cant see also that there is a guaranty that if you lose enough you will stop. Because for me if i have 2k in my pocket, i will gamble 1k and thats it. If i win, i will just continue until i could lose even in just one round. But if i lost 2k in just 2 rounds then thats it for me. And i just used that style after i only had 200 dollars in my possession. Just enough to go home and i have lived through if i gamble just enough so that i could live the next day after.
534  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Invest in ETH or ETC? on: June 18, 2017, 03:53:26 AM
I just choose Ethereum or ETH because their price was still remain to raised up. I believe that this coin were continues raising up in the future. I was hoping that this coins was followed the bitcoin price.

Yap me too. And during the past week i could have thought it was just a pump but damn it is constantly increasing even with just few amounts in a day. I guess there are really many investors in eth especially with the plan of Russia to support blockchain. Because from what i see, it surpassed btc in some aspects and there will come a time where probably it could reach 5k in just 2 months.
535  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do people keep saying BTC is dead?! on: June 18, 2017, 03:26:57 AM
Well i gotta some of the are just ignorant haters who cant seem to understand or have been scammed. The trend of the Bitcoin is more than enough proof to show that the coin is not dead and it is not dying sooner. Many people has improved there lives through btc so i doubt that these people would just stop trading and investing in bitcoin. Cause from what i see btc maybe be ranked 2nd in the market but there is no doubt that it is still the pioneer of digital currency.
536  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin may not be number one for long on: June 18, 2017, 02:59:14 AM
I thought for sure it would take until the end of 2018 but it looks like this summer ethereum might pass it up. With the turmoil around BTC potential splitting, it might be very soon. IMO this is healthy, we will always value bitcoin for being the one that started it all, but it's time for a more dynamic and adaptable currency to take the lead.

Bitcoin will never die but it will certainly lose it's value and it will be cheaper, it is a good time to invest on Ethereum  Grin

But the most expected coin to surpass it is ethereu. Because Russia is now developing its own coin and from what i see the creator of ethereum is Russian. So my guess is that the government with Sir Vladimir is making a move make ethereum the number one coin. In a sense also even if btc will be surpassed by ethereum, it will still be the greatest coin it became the platform of many other coins which is they just adapted the blockchain.
537  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC will up. dont worrry on: June 17, 2017, 08:22:15 AM
as u see . now btc is around 2k4. but i think it will up to 2k8 again. keep it and hope!!!
I don't have problem with bitcoins price increased, that is good for trading altcoins, we can makes good profit due to fluctuating of price, even bitcoins never back again, still there are other altcoins that can be changed to fiat money like ethereum and litecoin, fluctuation of bitcoins is not something scary but it is chance to getting money.

Yap and every move from btc is just another oppurtunity for people. If it goes down, many will buy. And if goes up, many sell. Thats just how the way it works. It is not always that we see it increasing or even decreasing. So a member we should just observe and be keen on the aspects of the prices of btc. Because sooner or later we can profit as long as we dont do reckless decisions and hope that there is always a profit even if there is just a little thing we do. A lot of altcoins are in the market so if you dont want btc, then you can always trade in these alt coins.
538  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Mayweather Vs McGregor: Info and prediction thread on: June 17, 2017, 07:02:15 AM
@thejaytiesto. Yes it is mainly that but not only that. Conor has something special in him to make and promote a fight. To hype it very well that you would have no choice but to want to watch it.

Floyd saw this opportunity to fight someone who is the same as him so he took it.

Prepare for the trash talking. It will be the better part of this entire event than the fight.
I'll watch it anyway but I'm not willing to pay for the PPV if there's any which I'm sure there is.
This is all about money and Mayweather is known for that as his name says, Conor is a good fighter because he is very aggressive but he is entering
in the game of Mayweather where he was undefeated when he retired, I could expect a running show at the entire time and the winner is pretty obvious.
Probably they are going to hype it up more by posting tweets and probably throwback some old quotes from the old times where McGregor trashtalks Mayweather or something like that. It's going to be pretty easy to make the fight more viral with those kinds of posts. We will see the outcome when it comes, as long as you bet on the right man, it's going to be hella worth it.

Well this is a boxing match and i think mayweather has an upperhand for the tactics and tricks to be used. MCgregor may be fierce in the UFC but wayweather can manipulate boxing rules for the years he has been boxing. Probably mayweather will again to play in a smart way rather than just go and punch and use force. In what i see if the enemies is famous or really strong he just try too get in the mind of his enemy and try to annoy him if possibel then he would make moves for offense. On the other hand mcgregor is uses feet in his battles so i think some of his ufc reflexes will be restrained thus disabling some of his mental awareness if ever he would think he is about to disobey rules. But i would want to see mcgregor win for this one.
539  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How to make 1 bitcoin in a month or 2? on: June 17, 2017, 06:42:56 AM
Hi, I am looking for a way to earn some money without invest(because I am broke), I can dedicate 2 hours a day in that. what can I do to make a bitcoin per month without any investment?

Well, if you are just starting to have business with bitcoin and you don't have any fund to start with, then I can suggest that you must start first by joining signature campaigns. Somehow by that you will get paid. And you can start saving your earnings until it expand. And then you can start investing and trading if you have already enough funds.
Actually, all you need to do is work hard in order to reach 1 bitcoin in a month. However, it’s not easy to do because you need to consider the time and money that you need to gain that 1 bitcoin in a month.Furthermore, some people join in signature campaign in bitcoin forum to gain bitcoin and it’s very effective.

Joining signature campaign is a good way to start earning bitcoins but we cannot depend only on it to earn 1 btc as it will take very long time to achieve that amount as payouts are limited so we need to discover different methods of earning bitcoins which can help us in achieving that milestone of 1 btc quicker.

Yap and i find it kind of funny that we want shortcuts with less efforts. Everyone knows we have to have a bad day 1st then have to enjoy next good days. Even in the earlier days of btc its hard to earn 1btc if you really no money. But if you have invested 2 months earlier then there is a high chance that you could have earned high amount of btc. Because the deal in btc is that you have to be patient for a profit. Do not always expect btc to put food in the table everyday. If you want fast money. Try doing some freelance jobs or even contract works per day or per week.
540  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to control greed on gambling? on: June 17, 2017, 06:03:54 AM
It is very difficult to control greed. In playing gambling when you can win the game then you will always try again. Even if you lose but you will spend money to re-open the chances of winning. And if we are not greedy then we can get big profits .This is a big loss of greed. We can lose everything we have. Not many people can control the nature of greed they have.

Yap, this is just basic for gambling. Even if you won a day earlier if you did not spend the money you won the day after there is always a tendency that you would return and think are a lucky man. Because for me if you were lucky other night. You will think of any charms you had compared to that days you was losing. It has been in a mans heart to go for more. It is not just in gambling but also in real life. You've had success and you still want more either risk high or go down shamefully. But there is no shame in gambling, only guilt that you should've said no to temptations that you could be somewhere now if hadnt have gambled.
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