I'm mining cann. I don't have a high powered rig, but some things brewing lately got me to start mining it again. I don't believe in coinspiracies. See what I did there?  |
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You guys are making this so incredibly and unnecessary complicated that it is ultimately, sadly, quite off-putting. No one, no one sane, let alone even slightly interested in understanding what SolarCoin is and wants to achieve, would even remotely attempt to go through the incredible amount of blabber posted just in this last page. What a pity.
If you can't make your pits in 15 seconds or less, you don't have anything worth pitching.
Chances are pretty good you've never read this book then...   What you see is what you get, take it or leave. Rest is BS. But I thought we are here to promote the spread of usage of solar energy, unless I am mistaken... you seem to want to play games instead.... ok. It is a concern to me that ANY individual coming in here, that could be interested in solar energy for his home and could be interested in some kind of beneficial angle of doing so, through solarcoin, will be lost after the first paragraphs of the OP and, if he/she goes on and read the "latest developments" of this project, will actually hate himself/herself for even contemplate the possibility of ever pay the slightest attention to the enormous amount of fluff posted. Anywhere at all that anyone will get, clearly AND SUCCINTLY explained, 1mgw = 1solarcoin and what in figures that anyone can understand, WILL that mean from day one? Where and how to claim it -perhaps with a little infographic aid-, would also help AND, no doubt, would clarify the bigger picture for every one. After that, back to the games by all means... Solar adopters are already used to counter intuitive technology. If you aren't, you aren't part of the target market. Is that understandable in 15 seconds or less? |
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Have you given some thought to adding a premium onto grant payouts adding extra Solarcoin from donations? Is this something that can be easily implemented?
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Ok, so we have a new dev on the scene for POSv. Here is the proposal. I am curious what people's feedback is in terms of technical risk and implementation. Once this looks good we will execute ASAP. Also would be happy for people to sign up for testing. Here is the new dev's proposal: 1. We will use new blockchain. Current one will not be used after migration to POSV anymore. The new one will keep all the balances from an old one. Question: do you also want to re-send transactions with messages which were on old blockchain? This is doable however complicates things.
2. Such setup gives us several bonuses:
- freedom to perform tests for a week or two so people will be able to download new POSV wallets and check if their money is still there.
- we will check if messaging works
- and check how staking works
- you will also have shorter blockchain which speeds up future client installations
3. After tests are finished we will let external parties (exchanges, pools etc) know they need to proceed with wallet update. As long as the old blockchain can be accessed via the new wallet there should be no issue. I'm sure that's possible, a sort of "soft" fork. Keep things simple. Please.  |
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So over on the FB group, Matt J. suggested "burning" coins in the spirit of donation to one of the Generator pools. I had done this back in July for §7200 as a pledge of my support for the future. Matt makes a compelling case!  So I decided to donate 5% of my current holdings again. If anyone else wants to do this, it's a good way to reduce current supply so somewhere down the road, those coins will help finance an actual 20,000 MWh worth of electricity generated and that's worth it to me. On a personal note, this is a choice to do this. I liked what Matt was suggesting and I chose to do it with him. If anyone else feels compelled to as well, do it as an informed choice, not just because you feel you have to. It's an important distinction to make as an individual. Here is the address if anyone else wants to do some "burning": 8Kau7tve5QoGKNMHomDr2tHcAMmqUN2zYuhttps://chainz.cryptoid.info/slr/address.dws?8Kau7tve5QoGKNMHomDr2tHcAMmqUN2zYu.htmIt may actually be more effective in terms of value creation to create more users. Creating a super faucet or reaching out to homeowners and 10x their claims etc. Shrinking the coinbase is helpful and the sacrifice and intent are appreciated, but reaching out or giving to grow the community of holders may be more effective. We are waiting for POSV to start reaching out to Journos and solar groups with the solarcoin message. Solarcoin is like airmiles for solar generators. POSv will make us carbon negligible so easier story. Solar energy groups/charties at the local or national level may appreciate and redistribute $20-$100 worth of coin. Just a thought. I suggested on facebook a donation pool controlled by the Solarcoin foundation/automated pool. People can donate to this address and a percentage will be paid to claimants based on their claim and the size of the donation pool. I think this would be an effective means of reinvesting back into the proper solar claimants community. What do you think? |
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There is no argument here - just reality. If you can't see it - this might be a reason the world disagrees with you Viz.I remember that episode. The universe created with the mind of Beverly Crusher kept shrinking as her reality disintegrated. Much like the bubble universe on Bitcoin talk. Small world, gets smaller every day. The outer shell can only hold the vacuum so long from outside pressure. I'd suggest opening the hatch, but just a tiny bit to let the atmosphere enter slowly so you don't cause an atmospheric disturbance large enough to affect the weather patterns in Idaho. I did and a stench permeated my lungs and burned my eyes. The stench of lies and deceit was GAWD awful. No silly billy, I didn't say you should fart. Now you'll need to open that hatch or you'll die in your own methane. |
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There is no argument here - just reality. If you can't see it - this might be a reason the world disagrees with you Viz.I remember that episode. The universe created with the mind of Beverly Crusher kept shrinking as her reality disintegrated. Much like the bubble universe on Bitcoin talk. Small world, gets smaller every day. The outer shell can only hold the vacuum so long from outside pressure. I'd suggest opening the hatch, but just a tiny bit to let the atmosphere enter slowly so you don't cause an atmospheric disturbance large enough to affect the weather patterns in Idaho. |
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Over a 40 year period it does. So you have done all the math for every possible claimant or I guess you just pool it? If the coins are never claimed then the disparity is shown in the market since they can be claimed later. So you always base your Market Cap on unclaimed coins and you also base their output prior to your coin's creation. While you give the same value to the PoW coins as you do the Claim coins. Using PoW means you use energy and do not create energy when creating coins, good thing there is only 200Mhash as it is low energy consumption. This was an oversight. So claim coins will be sold off to FIAT at a low price. Below 1MWh per coin. These claimants do not care what they sell at for free money. This will erode the value. Since you want to PEG the price at 1MWh per coin you would have to create a buy wall vs FIAT to sustain it. Otherwise it would not be equal in FIAT. Saying 1 Coin Equals 1MWh is only truthful when not compared to FIAT, but when you pay for a MWh how much does that cost and what can your market bear? Seeing that it will be rife with speculators and whales buying and selling it, the manipulation will be rampant. People wanting to get out of the market into FIAT will take losses to the manipulations making it impossible to equal 1MWh cost per coin per BitCoin value... since we know it will not cost more than 1MWh per coin, the price can only be eroded. Not to mention the people who got in on the PoW at 100 per block can manipulate the price also. So lets say on average a MWh costs $90 on the low end. In some US states it goes as high as $120 per MWh. The cost per coin right now is .00001788 x $232 per BitCoin equals $0.0041 per SLR Coin. This just proves my point. Each coin is not even worth half a penny yet 1 Coin = 1MWh. You don't even have the market cap of a Million AAA Energizer Batteries! So the price per coin should be around .388 per SLR coin to start with or slightly lower reflecting wholesale. So if you are expecting investors to pay for this type of market movement based on Claims made by companies who have already been paid for the power they produced, I have to admire your sense of greed not green. I'd suggest you head over to solarcoin.org. You have a lot of misconceptions about this coin. Also a good read is found here: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1802166Solarcoin is designed as a feed in tariff for solar power production. It's not designed to replace the value of solar energy, but to encourage more solar energy production. |
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It is way more scary than that, what is even more scary is that only 1 person has gone to jail for CDO fraud and the only reason he went to jail is that he admitted to it. Back in 2008 it was a Quadrillion dollar call on the Open Derivatives market with the Credit Default Swaps taken out of the safety net. The banks securitized the bad loans they said were Triple AAA's. This also made it so there was no negotiation possible for reworking payment structure on the loans, forcing people to Short Sale or get Robo Signed into Forclosure. Then through MERS the whole thing was devised to also step around the county recorders office in order to not have to pay filing fees or tax burdens on the properties. This was the crime of the century and then the most obvious terminology came into play. TARP, and we all know that TARP's are used to cover things up! lol The rich get even richer in bad times, they buy up all the Forclosures or Short Sales and the banks also get the difference covered by Federal Insurance. So guess who just lost out? The little guys. And the actual properties that still have MERZ on their Titles now have Clouded Titles. The Security holders are now trying to take action too. A quadrillion dollars is 1000 Trillions! You can also find out more about the FED RES audit and investigation by the senate only to realize the senate has been barred and has no oversight. They asked about the off the books ledger and it got real scary very quickly. Who is minding the till at the Federal Reserve is the name of the video. SolarCoin could rescue the world if it goes Viral and backs with a type of system I suggested. I also think that when people go to FIAT that the SolarCoin should be burned since the wall is the money generated by the panels. 1 SLR = 1 MW/h right? Well what good is energy generation? What Solarcoin is doing is getting backing by the ability to do work in a clean way. This in itself carries value. This coin doesn't merely derive it's value by entering the populace. It gets most of it's value by representing units of the ability to do work, this is the most basic definition of energy. It's a real value based system, and it trumps fiat, but it must work with fiat in order to have a basis of trade. If and when Solarcoin goes straight to fiat with a large enough following of claimants, it will begin to build true real world value. There's only a couple of crypto currencies that are doing something like this, but Solarcoin is unique even amongst them. SolarCoin is in PoW and uses energy to create the coins so how green is that? If the coin were more popular the nethash rate would be higher than 200Mhash and using much more electricity if scaled to BitCoin Diff and Pool Divisions. So people who don't even have Solar Panels can mine the coin, so who really needs solar panels at all? Using your logic, I could just start a coin based on Geo Thermal power. I may only have 10 people that claim the credit but everyone could mine it and intrinsically the 10 applicants made 1 coin per MWh so they proved all is right with my model. Meanwhile one million coins were created in the PoW pool and 1000 coins were created by the Geo Thermal proven sites. This may not be the exact math but I would venture to say that you don't have 33.5 Million+ MWh setup to make the coin in circulation equate. Right now you can complain about Whales since the coin was minted instead of harvested and now sold. But they are the ones getting rich and we don't really know who they are to begin with, yet they proved they have mining equipment and own a ton of coin now. Your entire economy can be manipulated since it still doesn't relate to power even though it matches 1 coin per 1MWh. These coins are not matched to this equation but may sell at that rate or most likely lower since more coin is being mined. So if you are just Pegging the coin to the cost of a MegaWatt there is nothing tangible at all other than the index. I can create my own coin now and call it ElectriCoin and peg it to the same index and you can plug in a meter to prove you have updated appliances. Over a 40 year period it does. There are billions of coins in the pool waiting for solar claimants over that 40 year period, and it even goes back 3 years right now for claims. The large solar farms can always claim tens of thousands of coins for 2012(?) to 2014 power production. That's several hundred thousand coins right there and more in the future. You misunderstand the scale of this venture. It's designed with much longer time periods than you're suggesting. |
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If I add up all the hateraid brains on this thread, would I get barely half a brain?
Typical shill behavior. Attack the messenger when you have no argument to counter the message. We win and you lose. Deal with it. It's not my fault you cannot read cointwats own admission. The argument is already over, you lost, have a beer and get over yourself. |
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It is way more scary than that, what is even more scary is that only 1 person has gone to jail for CDO fraud and the only reason he went to jail is that he admitted to it. Back in 2008 it was a Quadrillion dollar call on the Open Derivatives market with the Credit Default Swaps taken out of the safety net. The banks securitized the bad loans they said were Triple AAA's. This also made it so there was no negotiation possible for reworking payment structure on the loans, forcing people to Short Sale or get Robo Signed into Forclosure. Then through MERS the whole thing was devised to also step around the county recorders office in order to not have to pay filing fees or tax burdens on the properties. This was the crime of the century and then the most obvious terminology came into play. TARP, and we all know that TARP's are used to cover things up! lol The rich get even richer in bad times, they buy up all the Forclosures or Short Sales and the banks also get the difference covered by Federal Insurance. So guess who just lost out? The little guys. And the actual properties that still have MERZ on their Titles now have Clouded Titles. The Security holders are now trying to take action too. A quadrillion dollars is 1000 Trillions! You can also find out more about the FED RES audit and investigation by the senate only to realize the senate has been barred and has no oversight. They asked about the off the books ledger and it got real scary very quickly. Who is minding the till at the Federal Reserve is the name of the video. SolarCoin could rescue the world if it goes Viral and backs with a type of system I suggested. I also think that when people go to FIAT that the SolarCoin should be burned since the wall is the money generated by the panels. 1 SLR = 1 MW/h right? Well what good is energy generation? What Solarcoin is doing is getting backing by the ability to do work in a clean way. This in itself carries value. This coin doesn't merely derive it's value by entering the populace. It gets most of it's value by representing units of the ability to do work, this is the most basic definition of energy. It's a real value based system, and it trumps fiat, but it must work with fiat in order to have a basis of trade. If and when Solarcoin goes straight to fiat with a large enough following of claimants, it will begin to build true real world value. There's only a couple of crypto currencies that are doing something like this, but Solarcoin is unique even amongst them. |
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If I add up all the hateraid brains on this thread, would I get barely half a brain?
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Man, I already read this, and I paid 19.95 + 2.95 shipping. What a rip.  I'm never buying another one of your works again, very unsatisfied. It isn't the first time you expected something to be worth $20, is it? If his book is 20 dollars, I pay 20 dollars. But his book sucks, it's the same work he did 3 years ago with a different cover. Typical pump and dump tactic used on just about every crypto currency. Something you should be very familiar with. I guess the fictional stories I am outlining based on this GAWdawful stockpile of juicy material will not be on your bookshelf then.  However, if this story plays out the way that logic, math, and history say it likely will and there is an arrest/suicide/murder involved, then the actual true story might make for a salable made for TV movie and you can catch it after Ow My Balls when you are done Batin'!  Fictional is correct. Your true nature knows yourself better that you think it does. |
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Man, I already read this, and I paid 19.95 + 2.95 shipping. What a rip. I'm never buying another one of your works again, very unsatisfied. It isn't the first time you expected something to be worth $20, is it? If his book is 20 dollars, I pay 20 dollars. But his book sucks, it's the same work he did 3 years ago with a different cover. Typical pump and dump tactic used on just about every crypto currency. Something you should be very familiar with. |
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881 pages of opinions all written by not more than 20 people while GAW's customers can be counted in thousands. A nice hater lounge you have there, full of newbies posting memes all day  Another thrilling, heart pounding and brilliant comment by none other than our very own "Paul Revere". I can't wait for your next novel. Man, I already read this, and I paid 19.95 + 2.95 shipping. What a rip. I'm never buying another one of your works again, very unsatisfied. |
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881 pages of opinions all written by not more than 20 people while GAW's customers can be counted in thousands. A nice hater lounge you have there, full of newbies posting memes all day Another thrilling, heart pounding and brilliant comment by none other than our very own "Paul Revere". I can't wait for your next novel. |
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GAW is a scum organization run by scumbags preying on the greedy and gullible. He will be going to jail but the law takes time to do its thing.
To the Gawtards - everybody pray to the Man.
Well that makes you look both intelligent and well intentioned. Or I'm being sarcastic. I'll let you decide with your powerful and well read intellect. Like I said...scum.. SEC is a coming. Just like I predicted. Not just after the Dear Leader but after his underlinings and including forum Mods. They are scrubbing at a fever pitch now but it is too late. Intellect...you decide: https://coinfire.cf/2015/01/19/sec-investigation-of-gaw-miners-underway/Oh yeah baby, I feel the hate. How's your blood pressure? Hateraid more Mr. "...scum.." Hahahahaha! Blood pressure is fine. I do not hate this guy. Not worth the energy. That does not change the fact that the scumminess oozes from him and his legion of Gawtards. I'll let the rest of the world decide. Your single opinion is just that. And 881 pages of more opinions with over 99% agreeing with me. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.0Apparently the SEC doesn't: I'm trying to digest all of this with the coin fire article. Before we break open a bottle of Champaign, Is there any chance of inaccuracies? or is there any facts to support the "facts" as described in the article? Just playing the devils advocate for a moment, as we all know there is and will be skepticism from many fronts until we read or see more on the investigation if we can dare call it that. I guess I am waiting to see more than the snippets posted in article... albeit well written. Just hope its all accurate and true PS: ok, Don't throw eggs at me lol Absolutely, No one should open a bottle. This is going to be a long running thing and will take time. This is merely the beginning. They have documents they are putting together to determine if it warrants any sort of major investigation. One of our sources even ended with a remark that now is the time to submit information or else more resources won't be spent on this.We hope to bring more of the document in the future. Right now the bulk of it is just things people have sent in. That said some of them have been given directly to our sources so we are trying to be careful about what we release in the meantime. I like how coinfire doesn't agree with the statement made by the SEC by attempting to give no credence to his "sources". Guess they don't like their "sources" opinion on the matter either. Wonder where that's going to take them... |
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GAW is a scum organization run by scumbags preying on the greedy and gullible. He will be going to jail but the law takes time to do its thing.
To the Gawtards - everybody pray to the Man.
Well that makes you look both intelligent and well intentioned. Or I'm being sarcastic. I'll let you decide with your powerful and well read intellect. Like I said...scum.. SEC is a coming. Just like I predicted. Not just after the Dear Leader but after his underlinings and including forum Mods. They are scrubbing at a fever pitch now but it is too late. Intellect...you decide: https://coinfire.cf/2015/01/19/sec-investigation-of-gaw-miners-underway/Oh yeah baby, I feel the hate. How's your blood pressure? Hateraid more Mr. "...scum.." Hahahahaha! Blood pressure is fine. I do not hate this guy. Not worth the energy. That does not change the fact that the scumminess oozes from him and his legion of Gawtards. I'll let the rest of the world decide. Your single opinion is just that. |
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