I wonder if GAW has started a concerted effort to derail this thread. Now suddenly the topic has become LED lighting and marihuana? I've seen the same tactic used on HT as well. Can we clean up this sabotage?
Well to be fair that was dekay and he luvs sum weed. But yeah concerted effort by TeamScam to come over and act like a new sheriff was in town you could trust (non-profit), truth is the new boss is the same as the old boss. MrGanza is still running the show from a distance and the scam continues under a new guise. fuckwads. They all showed up and were like "OMG Paul, your memes are awesome" and "Hey I don't even know what xpee is!" " heck Im just a volunteer for a non-profit" and "look constand is awesome look at my xbox crap!" ...sigh. They have no real product or future and the only hope is to control the message as long as they can cash out xpee til it fuckin dies. don't think this has been updated in a while No premine, we'll mine for our coins just like everyone else" - lie Hashlets will "Never expire and always be profitable" - lie Valutbreakers - lie Prime Hashlets will be able to mine SHA-256 - lie Prime Hashlets will be the only ones mining XPY PoW phase - lie HashBase - lie AmpStore is coming soon - lie Hybrid-thermal-rubber-rabbit-flux-chain BTC2 capabilities - lie Orion nodes with higher payouts - lie Paybase debit card - lie Paybase Amazon, WallMart and co - lie Paybase BillPay - lie Paybase thousands of merchants on board - lie XPY $20 floor - lie World leading coin development team hired - lie CAF (Coin Adoption Fund) - lie $100 Million Fiat reserve - lie We're moving the market - lie GAW "bought" BTC.com for $1 Million dollar - lie GAW bought ZenCloud for $8 Million dollar - lie We'll destroy all the test coins once we've finished debugging - lie premier accounts on paybase will go out in a week - lie hundreds of coinstand invites are going out in the next few hours - lie Honor program will buy back coins at 20$ - lie Prime Hashlets will no longer be sold after a certain date - lie Paybase is here to stay - lie Thousands of coinstand invites are going out this week - lie GAW is not dumping any XPY on exchanges - lie Remember Legendarys limited to 500 - LIE Vegas Legendarys only given to those attending Vegas - LIE Vegas Legendarys will be the rarest of Legendarys - LIE Holloween legendarys will be able to combine into something special - LIE Staker Legendarys will only be limited to 100 - LIE all Legendarys converted to Stakers will keep their Legendary status - LIE all legendarys converted to Stakers will get extra abilities - LIE Coinstand is a large merchant that will value paycoin at $20 - LIE ========------------------============-----------------=========== |
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What might we infer from the sudden excitement and chatter from those that were so silent for so long.
Paul and Mage were discussing the future of xpy, Mage has helped, may help going forward and Paul is of the opinion the coin should be left to die. I agree, it should be left to die. My sense is they think the board is divided and they are here for a show of sympathy to gain support for all the non-profit (lol!) prime controllers and xpy to continue the pump and dump. |
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I understand why people want to take away Josh's coins and end the staking, but can't you see how that will kill the coin? If you can do that to him, or change something so fundamental (remember, the only reason most people have these coins is because they thought they would make money via staking) why would anyone invest in the coin when it can be taken away from them or something else can be changed?
It sucks that these people got conned, it's nice that people want to help, but it happened. Don't waste your/their time and energy on something that won't work.
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A bit of humor here where the scumbags thought that Suchmoon might be the "woman" Stacey Tenen (Rootdude): https://i.imgur.com/C9eAb4W.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/AAOwM2U.jpgSomething else that is proven by these Emails is that Luke Rusten is not the nice innocent guy everyone seems to believe. He is actively and gleefully trying to hunt down a customer (Suchmoon) so that he can be criminally harassed, or worse. Fuck him, he is as big of a piece of trash as the rest of those criminals. You seriously never go outside do you? Really the amount of time you spend here is well passed obsessive. The amount of post and hours of the day are pretty much almost 24/7. Its down right just pathetic at this point. Seriously, Go outside See the Sun. Meet a Girl, Something but for fuck sake Get a Life, 24/7 on the pc cant be good for your health. I worried about you! Toodles. Look forward to my picture  Hows that laptop doing you got for shilling from Josh Coinstand? What was that about me being better then you at the internet & gaining something from spending 1/16th of the time you do online? Ohh your got it wrong. It was 1x Laptop 2x Xbox Ones 1 Amd CPU 1 Touchscreen monitor 2x Xbox One controlers 1 Air Mouse Yup, Was more then 1k in stuff since I gave them honesty about what i actually received then still pushed my extra orders through. Total cost to me... About $37.00 Wait nvm Free because I ROI'd 3 months before coinstand existed. Now lets focus on my Ponzi that is now 100% Paid & how im going to jail.... That was a fun game! That is a lot of gifts to declare on your tax return. Or are you going to claim it as income, which is probably more accurate? They were purchases.... You already know this from my post on HT where it shows my order list. Sorry to disappoint. PS, I get a hefty tax return every year. Probably because I use Line 6 on my W4 and give a extra $40.00 every week to the man...... Just in case! I'm slightly more intelligent then you give me credit for. But only slightly! When i think of intelligent the first thing I think of is giving the government an extra $40 interest free loan every week. That's what all the smart people do. I actually anticipated this comment about giving the interest free loan to the government. That's why I added "but only slightly" Alternatively I've never had to pay even when my work messed up and had me claiming 5 dependents every week. Peace of mind is well worth the 37.00 (if that) i would have gained in interest. IMO I guess Im just a Patriot LOL. HG, you're just the latest member of TeamShill and apparently the cost to TeamScam is the following 1x Laptop 2x Xbox Ones 1 Amd CPU 1 Touchscreen monitor 2x Xbox One controlers 1 Air Mouse so basically, here's a bunch of crap GO FORTH and shill! now, let's see...where is that ignore button ? |
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There should be another three or four - one when I was pissed at them as well - if you cant find them then let me know Nothing too exciting or revealing there. Actually it shows that AnimoEsto was honest when he came here and was obviously trying to help GAW/paycoin on real issues that MrGanza had no interest in listening to since it didn't really progress the scam. |
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Ya'll should watch some American Greed for a good look into how scams can operate for so long, how much time/effort the feds make before making a move, and how hard they hit scammers. Garza has actually attracted negative attention and investigations wayyyy faster than professional grifters do. I forget where I posted it, but I had a family friend get prosecuted by the SEC for something extremely similar. It took 2 years or so and it was a slap on the hand with fines. Good thing is he can't operate a business in the USA for a while. The family friend was a 10 year ban. check this out: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg10993165#msg10993165Garza managed to attract the FBI, IRS, and DHS too as far as we know, who are going to bring much more painful charges than the SEC The other difference here is that Garza seems to be making out with little to no money to finance future scams, let alone pay his bills to his wife-monitoring subscriptions wrong. He has a buttload of bitcoin. He isn't paying the bills cause he never intended to pay the bills. |
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dickhead  -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: Car Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2014 16:46:16 -0400 From: Juliette Dunlevy < juliette@geniusesatwork.com> To: Josh Garza < josh@btc.com> CC: Amber Messer < amber@gawminers.com> We just talked about this. I got it under control. On Oct 4, 2014 4:42 PM, "Josh Garza" < josh@btc.com <mailto:josh@btc.com>> wrote: who is handling? The only thing I will drive in Vegas is a merci or McLain Or an r8 Thank you for your help in setting everything up -- Sent from Gmail Mobile Anyone who can't spell McLaren properly shouldn't be allowed near one. I assume he meant the P1 or a Mercedes. |
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Homero trying to con bitmain: In the end he was forced to buy 2000 units why? Because he wanted bitmain to publicize his order. Homero orders a small amount of machines and negotiates a whole lot more then starts to plead with bitmain to public state he bought 5 or 6 PH of machines. Bitmain refuses, saying, we can't publicly declare this unless it is true, that is you make payment and we deliver it then we can publicly declare this. Homero is nagging him that 'the money is en-route' state for me publicly I have bought this from you and on and on. In one instance he sends the money confirms it to bitmain, pleads for him to say he has bought the hashing power, reverses the wire where again bitmain refuses to make this state. So in the end in order to get bitmain to make a statement, homero actually has to buy the goods and physically take possession of them before any statement is made. What he tried to do was buy a few, negotiate more, based on that have bitmain declare he has bought x hashing power, there after without question the Homero would have cancelled the balance order. So far everything Homero does and has done is a reaction to the public, the outcry for proof of mining, forced him to buy a few, attempt to get bitmain declare he has x hashing power base don a small order + negotiating more, that fails so to fulfill the public outcry and in order to get bitmain to make the statement, he ends up having to actually buy it all. Clearly he never really wanted them didn't need them because bullshit was working, but when pushed by the public bought 'some' to make it look like he as mining, then when negotiating i.e. pretending he was more/all, bitmain refuses to confirm publicly based on negotiations, so a at the end of the day he is forced to buy it all. Actually the entire operation from start to finish is based on what was analyzed here, and on reddit and elsewhere, every time, someone here analyzed their TOS, pointed out a problem, they made a note of the thread and comments, and quickly changed it, likewise with the coin itself, all problems and all analysis here on this thread was monitored daily by them, and everything modified to address it on their end once revealed here. Everything. This was the MO from day one, bullshit our way through and if push comes to shove quickly remedy it by actually doing what we are bullshitting about. That he why he specifically targetd naive noobs with zero experience in crypto as his marks. Too bad everyone here and everywhere else with some experience caught and exposed this sack of shit for what he is. Hi josh,
We do not release any customer's information or transaction record to anyone other than to the transacting customer by default.
Just like any businesses in USA, we need a waiver from you that we can release 5PH or 6PH purchase to the general public by how you want us to say it. We need the waiver of liability from you or the contract I sent to you.
The latest contract has the paragraph for us to release the statement as part of the sales agreement. you can strike the message and hand write into, what you want us to post it or we can post it the way it is in the sales agreement.
We are eager to post confirmation for you, but we have to take care of ourself, too.
Also, If I'm misunderstanding what you want me to do, please clarify. (Confirm the 5PH order is placed/negotiated at the moment, or purchase is completed or paid for) When it is paid, we consider it is completed.
As you can see, we listed 2 URLs, one from your forum and the other from the bitcointalk you specified and we already created BITMAIN account on your forum to honor your request as soon as you requested, but we just need confirmation and waiver from your side for us to do so.
YOSHI
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Josh Garza <josh@btc.com> wrote:
What waiver?
On Oct 25, 2014 11:06 AM, "Yoshi Goto" <yoshi@bitmaintech.com> wrote:
Hi Josh,
We have no problem confirming the completing order. (If already paid for), then we have confidence that it will be shipped, and we can post confirmation that 5PH or 6PH was purchased.
Are you asking me to confirm that the order was placed/negociated or the order was completed (meaning paid for)?
either way, please give us the release consent/waiver to do so. (to cover Bitmain's officers, board members, employees, agent and associated members from liability related to posting the comments to confirm the order was requested or order paid.
YOSHI
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Josh Garza <josh@btc.com> wrote:
It seems to elude you that all I am/was asking for was confirmation we placed the order. Placing the order and completing it are not the same thing.
I will get a confirmation number when accounting gets in.
On Oct 25, 2014 10:51 AM, "Yoshi Goto" <yoshi@bitmaintech.com> wrote:
Josh,
What Im trying to confirm is you stated you sent the payment in and we are not seeing it yet. If you could help us see it it would help, but our company can not make statement based on the speculation.
So, let me confirm, just to complete the 1.25m portion of the order?
Thank you
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Josh Garza <josh@btc.com> wrote:
Hi Yoshi,
You got my correspondence and I got yours. I appreciate your perspective, but my board and I have our own, which I outline for you in my previous email.
Since neither of us are changing positions, it looks like we should just focus on completing the order. The order. Thanks
On Oct 25, 2014 10:34 AM, "Yoshi Goto" <yoshi@bitmaintech.com> wrote:
Hi josh,
May be I missed the point?
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Josh Garza <josh@btc.com> wrote:
I stated my position in my last email.
On Oct 24, 2014 6:06 PM, "Yoshi Goto" <yoshi@bitmaintech.com> wrote:
HI Josh,
If you are looking for the long term, lets make it work.
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Josh Garza <josh@btc.com> wrote:
Understood
On Oct 24, 2014 5:31 PM, "Yoshi Goto" <yoshi@bitmaintech.com> wrote:
Hi Josh,
I can write about what happen in the first dealing from your side and how we feel about it, but that's not going to be productive to both of us. Lets put this part of the dealing behind us and move forward.
Your primary goal is to acquire reliable hardware your customers can trust as lowest as possible as fast as possible with the reliable supply chain with a short notice. Our goal is to fullfill customers need as fast as we could upon confirming the payment.
We as the hardware manufacture, we can cater your need in timely manner and we will do our best to exceed your expectation.
We are catering your request as we can and accepting your modifications as we possibly could, however, the payment did not show up in Hong Kong by the end of October 24th business day and it is still not showing up. We haven't receive the contract nor the copy of wire receipt. We generally do not publicly announce our out put capacity and it was not in the original agreement, but we are willing to do so for this order. (We do not use BFL Marketing Model)
We do business in the long term. One thing we want to make it clear is payment must be in first before we allocate large production quantity with the special version. You will receive the priority in processing, however, the payment has to meet the deadline to keep the on-time schedule. (To cater the special order item, we do everything we can to speed things up and there is no other manufacture that can meet this demand at the moment or even by end of this year)
I don't know how to stress this to you, just like SP and Bitfury, we do ship on time upon payment, but we can't do anything without the payment being confirmed specially in public. Bitmain sales term is very clear and there is no refund specially if the batch was a custom made version.
At this moment, we can post a note for 2PH. or we can wait for another 5-6 hours and see if the wire shows up for saturday's business day.
P.S for this first deal, we gave you the hardware at our cost and for immediate shipping to show you our capacity and how we do business with private sale's side. Bitmain's major target is the Chinese Domestic Market and this size order is nothing new for us to handle when it comes to the capacity wise. (You are the special customer in the private client's side) You can google but you will not find any complaints from private sales customers that the order was delayed, because we fullfill these order ahead of schedule most of the time.
Yoshi
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 5:34 PM, Josh Garza <josh@btc.com> wrote:
Yoshi, I get it, but it goes both ways. I get that you guys were upset
that we almost canceled the order, but you guys also refused to give
us our payment back. This is also not appropriate, so it goes both
ways.
We need to both agree if the goal here is this order, or a long
partnership. If its this order, enough said.
But if its a partnership, then there is more here.
I appreciate all you guys are doing, but lets be honest here (we both
run business) you are doing it to capture more business in the future.
Assuming that your goal, it does not make me feel good that the
expectation is I absorb a million dollar plus risk, with the promise
that you will be shipping us hardware (which you did, but its still a
risk). And you guys can not take a risk to write a simple note
confirming our order that is already partially paid for. Seems like a
very one sided partnership, and that wont work in the long run.
In the US, we have a saying "dont throw the baby out with the bath
water" and thats whats happening here.
To leave a sour taste in my mouth for refusing to write a simple note
(that you could have easily deleted in a future), does not make me
feel great about the future. It's small potatoes with the business we
can do as time goes on.
The way this note was handled will make me I need to continue looking
for where our long term business ends up. I hope that changes.
Josh
On 10/23/14, Yoshi Goto <yoshi@bitmaintech.com> wrote:
> Hi Josh,
>
> Hope you understand, we ship products upon payment but the last wire
> reversal attempt made it very uncomfortable for us to take any action until
> the funds truly clear the international transit. The process involved not
> only us but the bank, too. Normally any attempt to reverse the wire will
> cause the future ban on customers but we did not do that for you guys. We
> already shifted the production cycle to cater your special versions but the
> confirmation wise, we can't really state anything clear in PH power wise
> without the payment.
>
> We can however, post that we are "confirming the order" to have the wire
> shows up and settle. If it went out yesterday business day, it may show up
> in the next several hours once the new business day open. (If it was 1.6
> million, then that will cover 5PH, if you submitted additional 750,000 that
> will do for sure 6PH.
>
> sorry for the delay, I just landed in new york from Israel.
>
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Josh Garza <josh@btc.com> wrote:
>
>> How about just keeping it simple.
>>
>> "Bitmain is confirming that GAW miners last order was for over 6ph"
>>
>> Simple, easy and accurate.
>>
>> For a partnership to work, just has to go both ways. We sent you guys
>> over
>> a million dollars for product that had not been shipped yet. And we just
>> sent even more. So we are showing our trust in you guys with our cash.
>>
>> And it's taken almost a week to get one sentence of confirmation. Hoping
>> you can take care of this asap. :)
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, October 23, 2014, Yoshi Goto <yoshi@bitmaintech.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Does this work for you?
>>>
>>> **********************
>>> please wait for a moment, we are counting the total army of ants
>>> marching
>>> your way
>>>
>>> Confirming the validity of the comment request from GAW Management, it
>>> took a bit longer due to the time difference (day&night) and the
>>> weekend.
>>> **********************
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> YOSHI
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 9:30 PM, Yoshi Goto <yoshi@bitmaintech.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> how about, us coming online, and say, please wait for a moment, we are
>>>> counting the total army of ants marching your way. or something like
>>>> that?
>>>> 2PH for sure already by the end of the month shipping. (Not counting
>>>> your
>>>> existing S2 and S3)
>>>>
>>>> We may also be able to, mention that the Bitmain side try to confirm
>>>> the
>>>> validity of the comment request from GAW Management and due to the time
>>>> difference (day&night) and the weekend, it took a bit longer.
>>>>
>>>> What do you think?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 9:17 PM, Josh Garza <josh@btc.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, we will do that chunk soon. So maybe say close to 7 ph
>>>>>
>>>>> Please do that asap. I did not realize you guys would not do it until
>>>>> the wire went out. So I look like a fool now.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, October 22, 2014, Yoshi Goto <yoshi@bitmaintech.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Josh,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for the update. We are not seeing the pending incoming
>>>>>> yet,
>>>>>> but Im sure it will show up soon. If you could send the contract and
>>>>>> wire
>>>>>> receipt, it will help a lot!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you selected for the optional 750,000 option, do you want us to
>>>>>> say
>>>>>> over 6PH? + another chunk you already have from S3 and S2? May push
>>>>>> close
>>>>>> to 7PH or just a little shy of 7PH may be.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> YOSHI
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Josh Garza <josh@btc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wire is out, pls make update
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Josh Garza*
>>>>>>> *CEO- *GAW Corp
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Yoshi Goto <yoshi@bitmaintech.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Josh,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please let us know the status. We are ready to make the
>>>>>>>> announcement as requested.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> YOSHI
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> “The information contained in this email message may be
>>>>>>> confidential.
>>>>>>> If you are not the intended recipient any use, distribution,
>>>>>>> disclosure or
>>>>>>> copying of this information is prohibited. If you receive this email
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> error, please tell us by return email and destroy this communication
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> any attachments from your system.”
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>>>>>
>>>>> “The information contained in this email message may be confidential.
>>>>> If you are not the intended recipient any use, distribution, disclosure
>>>>> or
>>>>> copying of this information is prohibited. If you receive this email
>>>>> in
>>>>> error, please tell us by return email and destroy this communication
>>>>> and
>>>>> any attachments from your system.”
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>>
>> “The information contained in this email message may be confidential. If
>> you are not the intended recipient any use, distribution, disclosure or
>> copying of this information is prohibited. If you receive this email in
>> error, please tell us by return email and destroy this communication and
>> any attachments from your system.”
>>
>
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copying of this information is prohibited. If you receive this email in
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Josh to Yoshi: To leave a sour taste in my mouth for refusing to write a simple note (that you could have easily deleted in a future), does not make me feel great about the future. It's small potatoes with the business we can do as time goes on. Write me a note and if it is not true you can delete it. He would have promoted the hell out of that note getting more suckers and then when the smoke and mirrors eventually revealed the scam Bitmain's reputation would take a big hit. Good job on Yoshi. Josh...well...what a slime bag! One thing I have notice repeatedly is how MrGanza ™ turns into a bully when he doesn't get his way. He is always offended when others play honestly. He was clearly going to cancel the order once he got his confirmation as he had no need for "real" miners since he had already moved on past that silly business to "always profitable" PNG's |
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Using Jessica's AmEx to spy on her... I assume its a shared card but still... nice touch. He's a smooth operator. You don't know that. Could just be for internet security at home, they have 3 kids. Wild assumptions don't help. Let's stay focused on exposing the fraud. I don't think it was to spy ON her, it was to know where she was so he could bang the accountant safely. |
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oh bitpop! "and I want you to know that I'm doing this to keep you and Stuart and me and Joe and everybody else out of jail" |
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holy shit ... seriously ... wow. I know, right? People were trying to get him to reign things in and understand how he was exposing everybody to potentially serious criminal charges and he just kept on swinging at his detractors and calling it a 'conspiracy' of FUD. it explains this thread I suppose, lol paraphrased "hey Josh gimme a call please, I'm a little bit nervous if you saw my email, I hope you did. Um, I'm nervous that you are excited by this launch but we're not going through the proper channels of AML compliance and that worries me cause you're not communicating with me" "and I want you to know that I'm doing this to keep you and Stuart and me and Joe and everybody else out of jail" "We just can't do this right now, it's just, you know, I guarantee we're gonna get nabbed and if we don't get nabbed and we end up funding a terrorist organization I'm gonna feel just as bad, um can we take the time to make sure we do this right, please?" "gimme a holler please?, thanks" |
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Yeah, you can hear the nervousness and seriousness in Dan's voice. Feel sorry for the guy TBH. Josh is such an incredible shitreaper. holy shit ... seriously ... wow. paraphrased "hey Josh gimme a call please, I'm a little bit nervous if you saw my email, I hope you did. Um, I'm nervous that you are excited by this launch but we're not going through the proper channels of AML compliance and that worries me cause you're not communicating with me" "and I want you to know that I'm doing this to keep you and Stuart and me and Joe and everybody else out of jail" "We just can't do this right now, it's just, you know, I guarantee we're gonna get nabbed and if we don't get nabbed and we end up funding a terrorist organization I'm gonna feel just as bad, um can we take the time to make sure we do this right, please?" "gimme a holler please?, thanks" |
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holy shit ... seriously ... wow. |
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Did gawceo's twitter account get hacked and unhacked earlier today? It was tweeting some funny things about ponzi's and what-not, but when I came around to this thread and checked it again for screenshots, the tweets were gone. Anyone got screenshots of those?  I think it was Homero playing Interwebz games. OMG, i was hackered there are screenshots a few pages back |
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Yeah, burn them with tx fees, would love to see the market cap drop to a real value
it's a shitcoin with no future and no one but a bag holder would want to see it live. tx fees will save the coin, what a joke. It isn't about tx fees, it's that you can change a coin in whatever way you want, it just has to be rewarding for people to hold and sell small amounts at a time so it has liquidity in the market. Just refine stuff as you go, if you want a hardfork then you take the time of the life of the Coin, about how many people you think there are, and the amount of services and determine the time that can be given. tx fees are the incentive to ....ok wait. Ha, you got me! sorry folks, back to "always profitable, never obsolete" hashlets! thread. |
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please start another thread and stop with the shitcoin promo...i really want to hear your opinion otherwise Please do not quote him either. Ruins it for us that have the Paycon shills on ignore  I hope the edit meets your approval :-) |
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Yeah, burn them with tx fees, would love to see the market cap drop to a real value
it's a shitcoin with no future and no one but a bag holder would want to see it live. tx fees will save the coin, what a joke. |
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I see no reason why selling products for less than you can purchase them will fail, that is the way it is always done- right? He senses the Gaw faithful are ready to be sheared yet again. You know... until we see if he's jacking his prices up or not... I'm going to give him credit for really believing that he can pull that off. I consult and, when the bitcoin market is in the RIGHT mood, I do give a deduction for bitcoin payment. I've managed to get 5 people into routine bitcoin use that way. So, I count it as a win even if I only break even. In the Gold/Silver business there is no huge markup to begin with where you can make discounts, and then he is saying he will undercut the Fair Market Value, which is what you can buy the products for to begin with - if you buy in large quantities. There is no such thing as "wholesale" in the Gold/Silver business, it costs what it costs. (yes, giant industrial purchases are slightly less, but that is Millions of dollars in purchases) I have been into Gold & Silver for a very long time (Thanks Hunt Brothers, you helped me buy my first car!) and I can tell you for sure that there simply is no way to do what he is suggesting. It would be easier for him to just send back more XPY than customers pay him and save all the fucking around buying inventory and shipping things. Seriously. This guy has some mental issues, hard to believe he is an actual M.D. . Might have something to do with his drug addiction, of course. Me personally? I'm giving discounts on consulting. Him? I think he really does think that the XPY will go up significantly and he's bought into the idea that the future increase will offset his current losses. I'm pretty sure anyone who's offering to sell gold already knows it isn't a retail type of market. Notice that he's not using spot prices? He probably has a local shop that can sell to him at a "FMV"-ish price and going to take a personal hit for 'the interim' until XPY shoots off to the moon. I think its a bad business decision, but I've looked at some of the online links related to him and he's not going to have Mensa battering down his door any time soon... so, unjustified, idealistic belief in Paycoin is consistent with his past performance. I think you are missing something regarding Gold/Silver pricing. Fair Market Value is what you can actually buy something for. Small purchases like a single gram of gold or a single ounce of Silver will run you maybe ~20% MAX over spot, and that is if you do not know how to shop around. In today's market you can buy locally for ~5% over spot prices for less than ~1,000ish and more like 2% over spot once you get up above that. Beyond that the discounts to approach actual spot are very gradual as the quantities go up exponentially. What WhoCares is saying is that he is going to sell at less than he can buy his inventory for, unless of course, he plans on saying "Fair Market Value" is WAAY above spot and then give a ~5-10% discount or such, which then he is just full of bullshit and what he is stating is pure lies. I typically do not post here, but wanted to make it clear. If the Spot Price is $1200/oz for gold - and you see the price on APMEX etc is $1230/oz - you will be able to purchase it for $1170 on my site-- so that beats the Spot price and the FMV price from the major dealers/refiners- If you purchase a 1 ct diamond and the Rap price is $3000 and the FMV is 60% of Rap - then you will pay less than 60% of Rap-- So, continue to say what you will - the only person that looks ridiculous in this situation is you- because you obviously have no idea about Gold/Silver or Gems-- And to prove my point - I will personally invite someone respectable from BCT like OgNasty to check it out and make a purchase (with escrow) to shut you up- although that would probably not work either. Lastly- You guys spend a bunch of time digging up dirt on people- Why is it that all of you hide behind your Usernames - I will venture a guess but most people already know the answer - because you are a coward you should stick to your "I typically do not post here" policy and go the fuck away |
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Has anyone seen suchmoons reputation?
why yes, thanks for asking. His reputation is doing quite well. yours, however, is quite shallow and repetitive. |
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