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561  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I stop Buying BTC? on: September 23, 2017, 07:56:17 PM
Yes you should still buy bitcoin because it still has room for growth and progression, if you stop buying bitcoin I'm sure you will regret not buying it this time. In fact since bitcoin has been going down recently because of the news China brought the crypto world it is the best time to buy bitcoin before it regains back and continue where it left off.
I agree with you, now is the best chance for us to accumulate more bitcoin, the price of bitcoin will soon recover and stabilize again, we just need to buy, hold and wait, Bitcoin will give us a lot of surprises. In my personal opinion, the news from China is a huge trap, they want to drive the price of Bitcoin down, buy cheap and sell high, bitcoin helped China's economy greatly improve, I do not think the Chinese government wants to stop the development of their country, it's a stupid thing, they will not do it.

Same with me here,  am confident that bitcoin will really recover it's price and holding is the best options to do while price is struggling to pump right now. That's why more and more investors will just hesitant to move further for their future plans of their investments, but still waiting for the exact time even though it's very challenging moments with bitcoin.
562  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: September 22, 2017, 11:59:26 PM
Yes, I do love slot games, thanks God there are many on the net which accept bitcoins. But reciently it appeared very hard slot games with different skript and where you need to solve the mission, yes, they are interesting, but I never haven't success in it, so I prefer ordinary ones. My biggest prize was 1,3 BTC  Smiley
1.3 BTC was a big money mate when you won this money long back or recently. I never made this kind of big winning in any format of gambling games. I will play more skill games very rarely I will do slot games, but I don't have any history of winning big mount I slot games. all flop stories and lost stories.

Slots can give massive payouts from time to time but it is not something to count on.

Some friends have hit decent payouts of like 1000x their bet, but in the end they never walked away with more than a couple hundred euro.

Of course they have decent payouts but I don't think in the long run they will sustain playing and being lose with the game. Other gamblers who were addicted were very much addicted to it that's why sometimes but not all the time, they'd win luckily for it due to the slot casino bankers didn't hit the target and they aimed for quota in every game.
563  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Problem Gamblers here who are in Debt ? on: September 22, 2017, 09:17:11 PM
Whenever i remember my bad times i remember those peoples also who lost their everything in this gambling addiction. i want to know what you think about such peoples and how they need to survive after so much losses in their life.
I personally knows some people who are in big debt and they even cant recover that debt and tries to commit suicide every time . so guys can you tell me whats the best solution for them regain their happiness in their life ?

This thread is only for those peoples opinion who faced such situations and recovered or atleast know how to tackle such situations in easy way ( btw i know its not easy )

It is a sad predicament he is in, but nothing really we can do about his money debts. If there would be good people that could try and pay off his debts then that is the best thing for him. However, the root of the problem has not been solved. The problem here is that he is an addicted gambler and he does not even want to work to pay off his debts then we cannot do anything about him.
it would be a miracle if someone suddenly arrived and paid off all the debts he had,
but this would be impossible
because rarely is there anyone who can help the gambler regardless of the debt winding that he is suffering
except for his parents who helped him
IN real time it is not possible, nowadays there is no helping nature like this. People all become selfish if they have enough money also they will not help others who are in trouble. So as you said the parents or brothers or sisters only the family members can help. The friends and other people just give free advice nobody will help.

and this is real happening,
friends can only help morally.
this may be of little help to us
and for the next we must be able to try to get out of debt.
and I'm a little suggesting here to keep our own effort without asking anyone to help pay off the debt.
because if we can get out of debt by own business of course we will be happier when that time happens

A gambler needs attention from friends or any family member, that's why it kept on a recurring situation that they went on debt most of the time. They've seek attention most of the time from their reliable sources, and borrowed more money just to satisfy their gambling motives. Getting out of a debt will not happen if a gambler doesn't change his attitude and never cut the gambling activities he had in his life.
564  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: September 22, 2017, 02:06:08 PM

Roulette is one of the most risky gambling activities that you could do and it also doesn't provide the same amount of excitement you would get from betting on a sports game or something like that.

It lasts for pretty much lower time and it is pretty hard to win anything because the house charges huge house edge.


Everyone has a different taste in gambling. For me, I find sportsbetting is not really a fun game. Thats for me because I will always prefer game that has instant result such as dice and roulette. That is true that roulette has high house edge but it is still fun to play roulette and try our luck
As you have said, individuals have choices of their own and they choose what is according to their nature. Some might love sports bet while others don't. Nothing is compulsory to choose. As far as someone is playing safely, the betting will be an enjoyment.

For some people it will never be an enjoyment for sure they will try to get as many profit as possible. That is where they are making the worst mistake ever. People dont realize that gambling is for entertainment and nothing else. If they keep spending alot of money in the end they are going to lose alot as well unless they are able to afford it

That's right spending a lot would lose your money very fast, but people doesn't value money even if they lost their money because of it. As long as they're enjoying it they kept on pursuing their passion although it costs them money.
565  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Ethereum in 5 years on: September 22, 2017, 10:33:42 AM
Expect to see 2000 in a few years of course bitcoin will be also much higher it this hapens hopefully.
You are right if ETH reaches 2000, one ETH coin. then bitcoin will be much higher than that, because the parent bitcoin of all types of altcoin. we would all expect the value of bitcoin to increase every year, so ETH and other altcoins are also increasing.

If that's the scenario in the future, well I must think to it that bitcoin will also be reaching at $10K right? That's what will happen if taken effect all crypto decentralized currency will grow of it's demand soon in five years, besides it will took long years to achieve. Maybe ethereum will also have it's own fiat exchanges if possible after 5 years as an additional changes.
566  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you set up limits for yourself? on: September 22, 2017, 10:04:40 AM
Yes it is a good idea, havingaccess to a lot of bitcoins then you might not stop gambling because some people can't control himself and this is what becomes a problem.

Setting limits is something any Gambler should think of before even trying to play.
If you have lots of bitcoins then it is better to avoid gambling, gambling with bitcoin is a lot easier than to gamble with fiat, you only need an email and a bitcoin wallet, you do not need anything more than that, so if you are not careful about gambling you could become addicted in the future.

If I have alot of bitcoin then first thing I will do is to invest some into bitcoin gambling site, there is nothing better than gambling site investment. If we choose to gamble then we are going to be addicted. Somehow people will still gamble if they choose to invest just like me but the portion for it would be alot smaller if you dont invest
Yes investing it is much more better than risking it in gambling,
It has lesser risk than playing it in gambling.

That's right, we should not risk our btc or fiat money with gambling as it will be prone to losing if you gamble. Setting up limits is controlling your aggressiveness in betting with gambling, that's you needed to divert your gambling ideas to investments like holding bitcoin in your wallet. The risk is really less and worry free even though it's volatile.
567  Economy / Economics / Re: Investing money on bitcoin..! on: September 22, 2017, 09:15:55 AM
Nowadays many people are starting to invest money on bitcoin or the buy bitcoin..is this a good approach?
How this will influence us in future?
Bitcoin is a good investment for long-term and even for short term. You can earn big profit in bitcoin just don't invest your all money. Bitcoin is very important to all because its help to them to reach their dream in life.
It's easy to say we can earn big profit but in reality we sometimes panic when the price dump, this is a game for the risk takers
and for you to have big profits you need to invest big and must be strong in holding your bitcoins as there will be a lot of trials you will face.
It depends on who wants to panic. Every price dump comes with a rise. Bitcoin is still in its early stage and you going into bitcoin now, you should have been able to understand that it is a volatile market.
However, panicking will not solve anything and that is the reason we always see that huge dump. If you understand what you are holding is not just an asset but the future, you will never panic during any bearish trend.

Having this option of investing bitcoin using the fiat cash you had in your vault or savings account can be a wise decisions to do. Never mind those panics or whatever false perceptions, like being afraid of volatility of the currency. Nothing to worry about volatile character as long as you closely monitor the price and the asset will no turn our stagnant for long time, it will increase it's value into profitable price even though dumps happened always.
568  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting on cryptocurrencies prices on: September 21, 2017, 11:10:02 PM
If I'm not mistaken, if you'll try to look on the coming of gogooption, it was the time that secondstrade was gone. And the account of secondstrade here in forum was hacked by someone and I guess that's the reason why the owner decided to stop the operation of ST and now he open a new binary option which is gogooption. I have a feeling that it has the same owner and it's just renamed after the hack of account here or else there is some deep reason behind that change.

Oh OK. Yeah secondstrade account was hacked and in about the same time gogooption comes to life. Probably is the same owner because the layout of the signature and the payment scheme is just the same as secondstrade.

I assume that they are the same people behind this two companies and look that gogooption popped out, secondstrade was gone. And their signature campaign was even the same, the rates, the rules and almost everything they are the same so kind of there is an assurance that only one person behind this. Well, did ericBcoins those the site where he'll play binary?

I think handling cyptocurrencies gambling might be a good options if playing anonymously. Gogooptions can be sustainable if playing in a fair games and I am not so certain if it will be sustainable for a long time, because rates were now being changes from time to time. That's why we still have to control the funds that you have, so that you will earn that lucky orofit and can be traded when amount increased.
569  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitmixer.io - Every end is a new begining on: September 21, 2017, 10:46:25 PM
Probably guys who're running Bitmixer earned huge profit from this service. Obviously, they are modest and they are not greedy.
Although I think there is something else behind it, something they did not tell us. it's a strange decision for me they didn't to sell the service at least

They probably earning huge profit but the people whose willing to join lately wasn't given a chance to enjoy the profit which other people having lately. Nice thing about it they really providing complete payments to those every members who joined. Eventually we have no updates yet if they're will be starting again with their mixing services, hopefully those investors will have another chances again so that profit will bebefit everybody in terms of good btc amounts.
570  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to increase BTC? on: September 21, 2017, 08:57:05 PM
If you're a scammer you can easily multiply the bitcoin but if you're a gambler you're a bit harder to multiply bitcoin. Trading in more knowledge is cool as it is one of the first trading investments. if you are a little lazy and you know you are the lucky person in the world to gamble your ez fonz money ..

No need to scam people just to gain a lot of bitcoin, you can do decent things to obtain bitcoin like trading, joining signature campaign or offering your service. Scamming are for people who are lazy and have nothing good to do in life.
That is a bad thing to do by one person, scamming more people to gain money to buy food to eat by your family, i do not think your family would be happy if their food are came from scam. Earning in bitcoin having multiple method that all of us can do because it much easier than finding a regular job with small amount of salary, just dont be lazy in working in bitcoin and i think you will be gaining much higher profit and has possibility to be rich in the future.
Yes it's a really bad thing to scam people because they work hard for the money that you earn from them. Why those people are choosing to scam others? Even they can do also a legal job with a good salary offer. There is many opportunities that may come in our life that help us to earn additional income just like the trading and joining campaigns​ were we can earn money just to be patient and learn all the lessons from it.
Exactly we have many opportunities to get more BTC out of a single one. We only have to get any option from these you just mentioned. Trading is more powerful in terms of yielding percentages. It make money double or even triple if you just do it with wise and active mind.

It's not an easy task to do tripling your money in trading like with altcoins. Many struggle will come specially when the coin you are investing with has low demand in the market and slowly rising. Even if that's the scenario, I do felt positively motivated with this type of earnings because it can possibly be increase the btc amount that we have. Not just trading but there's a lot more in the service section and also at altcoins bounties marketplace campaigns.
571  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: September 21, 2017, 08:08:33 PM
If someone which follows the set of rules and be discipline enoff. Can people make 50-100 $ a day just gambling in online casino.....?
Well getting 50-100$ per day as a profit in gambling is very hard to get I think. Because as most often in the gambling the players/gamblers are always luck dependent. So its not a profitable in a long term.

Winning $50-100 per day will never happens with gambling...ever.
You can get this reward a day or two days but in the next day you will loose much more money than you ever made. Or else, the gambling casinos will never survive  Wink
If you want to earn money try to find a good investment plan or a profitable service but beware of the scammy one...

That's a nice strategy compared to gambling, because you can't be certain at all times that winning huge amounts of money will be always possible. Investing for another profitable platforms might be challenging and as mentioned here, scammers were prone nowadays we should be more vigilant at all times.
572  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: freebitco.in "Browser Mining" - is it worth it? on: September 21, 2017, 11:59:18 AM
Mining option seems no more accessible on the site because it might have created lots of negative reviews for freebitco.in they might be trying to do something different but people might actually burn their laptop/pc when trying to get few satoshi from this type of bitcoin mining.

This one seems to be their another failed attempt to look different than another faucet out there.

It's accessible yet, not for everyone as it's an experiment yet for few or some users.

I don't know yet if it worth, maybe for who has powerful machines it can be interesting, but for who has cheap laptops it won't be profitable, it won't pay even the electricity you are spending. Anyway if you want to check when the time comes for all, just set low CPU usage to prevent damage to your laptop.

You're correct that this is just in beta testing and still being rolled out to more users, most certainly not a failed experiment. There is a lot of nonsense being posted about this. You can turn the % CPU used up and down in increments of 10% so there is no reason to overheat anything.
I think you're right about cheap laptops, but with a modern desktop, it looks quite promising. I'm using an old i5 processor at 20% in the background and I've calculated that it's running at about breakeven so if you have something newer and more efficient than that it should be worth doing.



I think that's explained well and looking unto the promising effect of the mining cpu, maybe that's not yet performing for a long time. The computer hardware might be overworking for several hours doing the mining operations. For me it still not worth it for now since, using personal computers in mining doesn't conform to the actual performances of dedicated mining gpu's.
573  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: September 17, 2017, 12:52:54 PM
Hey! Good day i really need some answers because its about gambling in your life and other people are playing for it with heart and i just thought that how can gambling help you with your life? and do you gain something from it? does it help you to be wise or worst your attitude will change.. i need answers please!
In my own opinion, there is no way that gambling will help you in your life because all it will do is to get all of your money and makes you more addicted and waste your life. Gambling is not beneficial so it cannot change your life. The only people you get benefits from gambling is the dealer and the owner of a casino.
Gambling cannot help a person financially but it does not mean that one cannot learn anything useful out of it. Clever gamblers increase their analytical skills, improve their manipulation and mind reading skills, and get a good control over their greed and emotions. It is not that useless after all.

Maybe it wouldn't help us to financial aspects but I think it has good advantages for people who wanted fun from gambling. Even though it might have negative effects in terms it can let somebody addicted of it when extremely playing gambling, but it has no significant effects if a person has self control in every situations.
574  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam? on: September 14, 2017, 08:25:04 PM
I can't even find a website but spotting a scam cloud mining service is pretty easy. First thing is that most of them are. Second, look at the interest rates that are ridiculously high, also many of them don't respond to customer support once you've deposited your btc and when you think of it, for a cloud mining to be profitable, they'd need huge, huge amounts of money invested and it will probably never pay out for them to rent that hashpower. So pretty much in the end, there are no more legit cloudmining services or there's maybe just a few, like 2-3.

It sounds funny that more people will be investing for it since then, and as we have observed for the current reviews this was really showing that scam is already happening here. That has been confirmed that most of those who invested was into ponzi scheme, and the strategies were almost similar to those networkers of fiat cash. The investments offering any food supplements or any other products venturing any referral reward system, which made people hesitant on any fiat investments but now more rampant in cloud mining platforms.
575  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin - time to buy or sell? on: September 14, 2017, 04:04:22 PM
With Bitcoin falling so much this week/month, do you think it's a great opportunity to buy in or time to cash out?
For me it's not time to convert our money to cash, it is because the decreasing and increasing is normal like what happen every time that bitcoin fall and easy to recover. Maybe this time we need to hold our bitcoin or buy some bitcoin cause of low price. This is because you can use the bitcoin as investment, like what we observed to other previous year and now the price has big increasing, it gives a lot of profit if you hold and wait for the higher price.

The investment must not take short term and it's better to have long term investment here in digital currency, rather than fiat world currency. Banking fiat isn't that profitable for the smaller fish like us, and that's a certain idea for now while btc price still at low value we should really have strong decisions to hold it.
576  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why trading is better than gambling? on: September 14, 2017, 03:41:09 PM
Trading is not that risky if you are doing sufficient research. I do know of people who already have $100k and even millions already. They have done proper research, so although they cant time the market, they are not worry about ups and downs but in the long run, they can profit a lot. As for gambling, there is no example that people become rich by gambling against the house edge.

I agree, Trading is a very good way to earn money unlike gambling. Trading will only become like gambling if you are just going to do it without any knowledge about Trading, you are just going to throw away your money that way. Trading is a good way if you want to earn profits in the long run, it is a very good investment but we have to consider the facts that Trading will not be as easy as you think, there are times where the tokens you are holding is going to Dump and Pump, amd all you have to do is to wait.
yes i agree trading is 50% less risk tahn gambling .it has a good  feedback and it really has a big capability to earn big if you have a good experience on it.where as in gambling  is not really profitable in a long run because this gambling is not a good source  of making money because it depend upon your luck.
Risk is there in both trading and gambling but as you said, there are very low chances of loss in trading. It is safe, secure and have much more potential than any game of gambling to yield profit. Gambling is like a parasite that eats you up while trading makes your life easy.

We do hear some people are making money from gambling too. But those cases are very rare hence we never need to consider compared to most of the traders are finding chances to make money.

Maybe making money from gambling was just came from a person who profits gambling business and not a gambling player. Those rare cases came from those lucky winners but definitely those were few of them. Of course in trading great chances will be awaited for you if you had that perseverance, patience and determination to wait for your holding to grow it's value.
577  Economy / Services / Re: [OPEN] Moneypot X Signature Campaign (10 Day Blitz) on: September 13, 2017, 02:55:17 AM
Posting Bitcoin Username & UID: btcjocan & 967100
Posting Rank: Full member
Posting Starting Post Count: 242
Posting Bitcoin Address or Moneypot Username: 3MgBBXDWjJkM7F5zr2pEg1EJohvCucjkmn
Wearing appropriate signature: yes
578  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why trading is better than gambling? on: September 09, 2017, 12:40:36 AM
actually between trading and gambling is almost the same. if trading it means to trade, buying something cheaply and sell it with the price hight for profit. while gambling is a bet, in the hope of victory for profit. so it's better to trade, even though the risk is equally great, but trading can be safer because we can save our assets first if it cant be sold at the desired price and we can wait until the price really can give profit.

Trading sometimes viewed by people to be like gambling, but it differs actually on it's current situations because you have to decide whether you sell in a low price or not. In gambling we have no option to decide either you cancel the betting or not, you will be bonded with current situation that gambling rounds can possible lose your money all the way. Although trading has lots of risk like losing your coins when price drops fast but I must agree those points that trading is safer rather than other investment because you can hold your asset and just wait for the right that sell price will mature then you can sell it in the future.
579  Economy / Economics / Re: Can you really make money on Forex? on: September 08, 2017, 10:04:42 PM
Anyone tried or currently trading forex is it possible to make money on it?
Me  i have been in forex trading and i will lie if i will sau that you cant make money on it,in fact you can gey more and more money there than trading in altcoin but the risk is more higher and failure rate is high
So true , itried to play and to risk how much can i afford to lose and suddenly i lose big amounts without winning. Like others say its a different kind of extreme level trading it is much not easy to understand unlike the normal crypto trading .
You are absolutely right risk is very high and failure rate is also very high because you need too much research and current affairs study for this if you can do this all home work then you can earn some good amount in this Forex field some time ago I try and have very big lost

Two years ago I was able to register at online forex trading site and got interested with their platform, but as you mentioned here failure rate is very high. Yes that's right and based on how I analyze the scenario here the trading system of the mode of exchange they had was much more volatile compared with crypto currency trading, rather than you trade using fiat forex exchange. However I wasn't able to decide on investing with forex agent, because the funds I am going to use for was spent for family needs.
580  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Understanding signature campaign on: September 08, 2017, 03:24:17 AM
Just read the latest page of the campaign thread to see the updates. Sometimes they announce it by editing the title "[Closed]" or "[Ended]". If you see that at the sigcamp thread title. That means they are closed or ended. There are some sigcamps which stopped. Which means they stopped the campaign and will continue later. Right now only few campaigns are open for new members at the service section. Also the chances to be accepted there is very hard. So better improve the quality of your posts before applying. But if you feel confident with your posts. Feel free to apply.

There are campaigns at the altcoin section. Just go to Bounty section to look for campaign which suits your rank. Also applying there are not that hard. The good thing who bounty is the reward is huge. You just have to wait and meet what they're require you to do. If you are lucky, you'll get 1 btc easy.

Sometimes it's getting so boring to wait the bounty distributions at the altcoins campaign but the good opportunity is always there from altcoins. You can trade the coins bounty at trading sites ang have a quick selling. Bitcoin payment campaigns is the best options like what others were hoping for but it's hard to get there since many participants were all willing to apply and grab the opportunity
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