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681  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is rise an interesting project? on: August 08, 2017, 02:36:53 PM
Their website is being redesigned. I watched a video, but looked a bit crappy with lots of buzzwords.

https://rise.vision/

Could be wrong, though. Their Twitter isn't really chatty either. Potential?
I see little to no potential at all in rise coin. Also idea seems to be not that useful at all and site looks crappy.  This project is somewhat what I consider as an ICO that is probably a scam, because the testimony on the lower part of the page seems to be not true. Also they provided a list of organizations that trusts them, but I doubt it and to prove if its real or not, it needs further investigation.
I haven't heard about it yet. Rise coin? Is there such a name like that? And why is it crappy? If this is a kind of scam how do we know if it is really a scam. I just wondered how scammers get in or join in bitcointalk. Are they also paid for pulling bitcoin down? Or they just try to ruin other people's success. If this project keeps going then try to stop it if it's a real information.
682  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is more profitable: a gambling site or a dating site? on: August 08, 2017, 02:15:55 PM
Today a question came to my mind that which site will be more profitable a gambling site or a dating site? Actually I want to find out that in which place people are more interested and where people mostly want to go to get fun.

Gambling site would be more profitable because more people are visiting these sites for fun and many people are more interested in earning more or looking for ways to get money as fast as they can while the people who go to the dating sites are the ones who are looking for pleasure and they have the alternative to just engage the people they like in social media.
Particularly gambling is more profitable than dating since when we gamble,we always have money to bet on. Unlike dating we are the ones who spend for the woman or person we like. If we spend daily if there's a woman who demands almost everyday then you will spend a lot of time for her wants. But im gambling if you like to play and bet for a certain game, there might be big chances that you can win from the money you bet. So I guess people prefer gambling than dating most especially men to be exact.
683  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When to leave the game? on: August 07, 2017, 01:29:40 PM
Many addicted to gamble that they don't know how to leave gamble even they won they want to play more until there money lose all. That is my problem when i gamble i don't know how to leave in casino thats why i always lose. But now i stop it.
It's not only your problem or the problems of a small group of people everyone in gambling don't really know when to stop winning is really hard but when someone keeps winnig he doesn't stop and thinks he cam earn more than his goal and finally loses all. You should always stick to your goal and quickly withdraw after achieving it
Here you need to consider what is actually happening with every gambler. Because no gambler is entering into gambling for the reason of losing his money and moreover all the gamblers are having some plan to make profit and to limit their gambling activity for that day. Even they are having such plans, they are unable to follow it almost every day. That is the reason they are booking profit at the end of the day.

I believe there will be no possibility of leaving gambling after winning but the only possibility must be leaving off gambling completely. You should never go to gambling hence you never need to win and then lose there. Possible ?
Of course you can stop gambling when you win. Most people just lack the resolve to do so and then blame gambling and call it "addictive" rather than taking responsibility for their behaviour.
Yeaaa i agree the very basic gambling rule is to take on responsibility on what you have done.
And people mostly cannot do that , they think it was because an addiction.
Actually it is not , when you can learn how to accept facts you have lost or be wise by taking a little profit only. You will realize that nothing impossible.
Leave the game once you get a full bag of money. There's no point of returning if you can establish your own gambling business if you want to. Anyway, you can't stay or having fun in that way forever because there a number of people will continue to gamble despite losing their time and money. So better leave when you get already what you want. Have your own life and don't gamble again instead make others gamble for you in your own business.
684  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Which is the best way to promote products or links? on: August 07, 2017, 01:02:11 PM
Which is the best way to promote products or refferal links? Social media and forums is total shit,no one interested in this.

May be you are doing some thing wrong. All big investors are preferring the social media for promoting their products. You think they are only wasting their money?
For Example- If you promoting a product like "How to make money" and if you post that product in a group like " Online Income" then there is a possibility that no one will test your product, as members in that kind of group is looking for selling their product only. So you have to post them in right place.
You've got a point there mate. Products nowadays have been promoting in social medias because that is the fastest way of selling. Not only the fastest but the cheaper way endorsing products. I would definitely agree on online shopping, even myself had tried buying online and it guaranteed me satisfaction despite some minor difference but it's still good and I had no problems on its transactions. Don't make yourself worry just use Facebook since it has millions or billions of popularity. Go for it.
685  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: When did altcoins got so popular? on: August 07, 2017, 12:34:42 PM
Altcoins was always lurking the price increase in BTC made altcoins more attractive as a substitute for BTC investments. Also the popularity of Ethereum gained considerable momentum and also gained allot of traction in the media. Not to discount really good projects like Byteball, Dash, Waves, Stratis these are on of my favorite projects that currently exits in the altcoins sphere as they have a good working platform and alot of community support.
So that's why many of us depend on altcoins. Therefore if altcoin is lurking the price from btc,they are proportion in that case. Isn't it? On the other hand , btc is more popular than altcoins. Whichever the case I will support both of them because they are one of my sources of funds or extra income. It is popular for its value and trading factor so I keep going.
686  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Is Bitcoin's Value So Volatile? on: August 07, 2017, 11:35:08 AM
Price do really moves anytime on bitcoin because there are sellers and there are buyers and when theres a lot of demand on this coin then expect for the price to rise up even more because the higher the demand the higher the value of it. Volatility of price is the thing why most investors and traders do really like on it. They can able to make money on it when the price moves. If you are a trader you will surely know what i mean.
That's true. It is volatile in the sense that the demands are getting quicker and this makes the world of bitcoin go round. Investors also good at trading because they have the guts and resources. Moreover, they become more successful because of the benefits coming from btc.
687  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: In Gambling, Money is not everything on: August 06, 2017, 02:19:08 PM
What is the prime motto for your gambling.
Many people here are against considering gambling as a earning source. Without money, you will not be able to gamble.
Just for fun type of gamblers, only a demo account or a video game is more than enough.

Please share your ideas on role of money in gambling.


It's true that money is a must when gambling, but I think the most important part of gambling is enjoying it. Gambling is created for entertainment, so people shouldn't put much emphasis on money. It's fun to earn some money while having fun. It relieves stress and it will make you happier.
Yes I also believe that money is necessary when playing gambling but I don't think you were going to be happy if you lose on gambling. There's no guarantee that you will win in gambling because gambling is all about luck and sometimes even though you have enough luck still you cannot win because the house is always the winner. And I don't think it'll make you happier you will felt frustration rather because you will always a loser and worse if you become addicted to it.
Is not everything? Of course it is. In gambling it needs much money to bet because there are several ways to play the game. And also it has different amount to bet. I just don't get why others continue even if they lost lots of money. Maybe it's really their nature to gamble.
688  Economy / Marketplace / Re: What would you like to buy? on: August 06, 2017, 01:37:26 PM
Clothes,Outdoor Equipment (e.g. footballs, bike pumps etc.),Art and Craft,Paper and Card,Shop/Business Supplies,Pet Supplies/Products,Water,Bags,Lighting.These are the necessities of life, we can not do without it, and we can not do it, I will buy it in Bitcoin.
That's too basic of course. I already have my own family so instead of buying my wants I would just give it to my children and to my wife. I find it meaningful and I'm satisfied with it. Most importantly bitcoin helps my family needs and that's worth it for me and for them.
689  Economy / Economics / Re: Can bitcoin improve the economy of a country? on: August 06, 2017, 01:17:57 PM
I don't think so. It only improves the economy of some groups that use bitcoin. how it can improve the economy of a country if in some countries bitcoin still not legitimately accepted as a method of payment, besides the government will have difficulty determining the tax from the use of bitcoin
Improve of economy by bitcoin is very easy if government take some action which is known as legal action like they provide to people funds by bitcoin they purchase some bitcoin and distribute them into economy so that's the way the can improve the economy because it is easy for bitcoin. So i will prefer that government should take some actions as well.
in fact bitcoin is providing opportunities to its people to make money from bitcoin, and specially to those people who do not have any day job so in this sense bitcoin is really improving the economy of a country.
I agree to that, bitcoin is now an opportunity for the people who do not have any kind of job because bitcoin can be a source of income as long as the person is determined to do it with his best. If the people who doesn't have any regular job and if they will be on bitcoin and earn much money then it will help to the country's economy because the tax of the items or things that they purchased will be added on the gross income of the country.
- Personally, I think Bitcoin only improve part of the economy, can not improve completely because Bitcoin really not too popular, only young people and working regularly on computer know bitcoin, and not all of them have enough patience and effort to make money with bitcoin, mostly they are depressed and give up after a short time. So I believe bitcoin only improves a very small part for the economy of a country, even it could be no
yes still now bitcoin can improve a small part of a country economy, because many people have no idea about bitcoin that how they will use it and some people are not know about it so i think the main reason is that many countries did not accept it their no knowldge of bitcoin. But i think if all the government see that it goes to development there has chance to it that they accept it their country.and then bitcoin improve the all part of the economy of a country.
I agree with you. Though bitcoin has a dicrete way of helping most of the countries including mine, that will definitely has a big name with many businesses or percentage that makes investors richer. However, it's not yet fully adopted to everybody. But maybe there's a big chance someday and I'm waiting for that.
690  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: can bitcoin wallet be hacked by hackers? on: August 06, 2017, 12:50:58 PM
I think if you use good wallet and strong security, your Bitcoin will be safe. Smiley

Whatever strong security you have , they are professional they still can do it, the better way double or even triple protection by your mobile, email and by taking backup.
More or less that is possible. I think the better way to do is you have to transfer it into your currency so that whatever may happen it has already a value and you can spend on. Don't wait too much for the growth if you think it's enough then transfer it to your wallet and make use of it before discrepancies may occur. The earlier the better.
691  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Are You Disappointed In Trading? on: August 06, 2017, 12:27:33 PM
yes lost lots of money
There's no use to be disappointed in trading.Trading is always like that,the high and low rate of trading is just normal and I already experienced that with my parents when they trade their livestocks. It's just so similar when trading coins. What's good im trading btc is it won't spoil or feed it you just need to have strong will and patience.
692  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Wich cryptocurrency is the most promising? on: August 06, 2017, 12:03:18 PM
There are a lot of cryptocurrencies that are promising and I'm sure we all have different ideas on which altcoins are worth to invest, it is entirely up to you whichever you feel like are promising based on what you read about the coin. Choose the top 10 coins first in the coinmarketcap website and do a research on those coins, don't just rely on what people tell you or hype you on which coin because in the end you might blame them.
It is a good thing to base your investment on the market wherein there is a specific top 10 crypto-currency that has volume and stock on the market. Hence , if you want to earn more or to have a new kind of token to invest with the best thing to do is to support and to apply on a signature campaign alts. The thing is there is a new ICO project where in it can be released on the market when the whole project succeed. So you will need to support the project in order for it to be successful and to earn new token that is suitable for the platform of trading.
Could you mention few promising cryptocurrency? Because I got only one or two. I also do that, the joining of signature campaigns,twitter, Facebook and the like. I always have my support to every campaigns that I am with and I like earnings coins. So someday if I will be more knowledgeable, I will know the promising coins.
693  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Is that possible to earn bitcoin with Youtube Channel? on: August 06, 2017, 11:41:23 AM
youtube does not pay in bitcoin so it it directly not possible. But it is still possible to earn bitcoins from youtube channels by promoting some websites in your channel. you can find those kind of jobs in this forum keep searching them(but very few I have found).  here--->https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1883624.0 you can find those kind of job.They are paying 1.00 BTC, if your video hits at least 100,000 REAL views without cheating.

Nothing is impossible because Youtube is a very big company. Precisely one of the famous and successful in internet sensation. If bitcoin will be published more and more in YouTube the more people will know about bitcoin's information and how to deal with it in the society. It is the fastest and advanced. Moreover, it's easier to have income in YouTube but make sure the videos you upload are good info and interesting at the same time so that many will subscribe to your channel and who knows they will give you btc per video you upload or more than that. Don't forget to reply the comments of your viewers for this wiill measure the quality of the info you upload.
694  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin in Economics class? on: August 06, 2017, 11:20:37 AM


Do you think they are talking about bitcoin in your basic ECON class?
In the country I have many classes teach you rich lamg. Experienced foremen and they teach back to those who follow the secret, experience in investment and business. And most of these classes are free. So there are many opportunities for you to get rich, it is important that you have a chance to catch up!
So far it hasn't discussed yet by many in the class but I only heard very few from other students but I guess it's just passing. But if they talk it over and over maybe the class would be surrounded with business minded students and future big time investors in the world of bitcoin. In addition, the class would be an interactive and interesting class since many students told me that economics is a boring class but if they integrate the lesson with bitcoin well it would be extraordinary and fun at the same time.
695  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: regret by not believing in BITCOIN? on: August 06, 2017, 10:47:02 AM
who among you here heard bitcoin back in 2009 and 2010? I was one of the people who is very skeptical about it and I really regret it. Sad I missed the best opportunity for a lifetime.
I didn't get the chance of knowing about bitcoins earlier.I heard about bitcoin just an year ago when i was working in Dubai.At that time,price of one bitcoin was just $650.I just used it for sending my salary to india at a very low transaction fee.But now,i am getting my full earnings from bitcoins.But the early birds who knew about bitcoin in 2008 were blessed enough to enjoy such huge benefits today.
I agree with you. But I think it's a matter of chance because I was too young back then. So when bitcoin started in that year I was like 16. I didn't have a phone that time and I only go to the internet café to research on my homework and projects at school. I don't regret at all because I can still appreciate the benefits of bitcoin piece by piece. Not too early and not too late, just right and I wanna know more and more about bitcoin.
696  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Benefits from Gambling on: August 06, 2017, 08:30:31 AM
The benefit of gambling is that we can feel good about playing. Do not consider gambling as a land to be able to earn money. For gambling I think for an entertainment. If we win is our luck
That's correct! In gambling activity there have individual reasons, like as a pass - time, pleasure or for gambling purposes. But whatever you choose this place, you need to play wisely indeed. This way getting benefit in both.
Benefits? Maybe to some there is but I haven't seen anything such a benefit. Based to my grandpa's experienced, he was so addicted in cock fighting back in his single life. He said that he often won the game but the big problem was he always had fight with grandma because of his addiction. Until grandpa moved out to the house. So I guess in his case was not a benefit all the time but to some cases only which is acceptable on the part of a relationship. Monetarily a bit beneficial but it somehow ruins relationship if not controlled.
697  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you think billionaires invest in BTC? on: August 06, 2017, 07:22:21 AM
yes, I think they invested for bitcoin. That's why we called them BILLIONAIRE. They know how play the MONEY. They have all the money to invest.
Of course they also invest. You know what billionaires having fear of money to loss. Therefore, they can play their money even it's a little to them but it's big for some because they don't know what's the essence of money for they have a lot of it. Investing their money in BTC is like an experiment to them but at they they can get profit. They don't care of the risks that might happen because they can still manage it. Well, that's how I think about this.
698  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do Not Use Electron Cash! on: August 06, 2017, 06:42:12 AM
Hello everyone. I have a problem claiming my Bitcoin cash from the private keys.

I had a BTC balance on Electrum wallet before and after the swap. Moved my BTC after the swap to a diff address for security reasons. Now cannot use my private keys, every wallet (Electron cash, coinomi, Bitcoin ABC ) says that there is no funds on those keys, but the block explorer confirms that my Bitcoin Cash is there: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/address/36XmauGXBMEMjMNbRXxmCWy1X8g9SLEwFC. What am I doing wrong? Anyone has an idea?
Thanks.

Wait for sync and make sure the wallet is connecting?

Everything is synced and connected to the right servers. Also tripple-checked that the public and private keys match.
I think half and half but it doesn't mean not to use really electronic cash. For as long as it is useful regardless of the source of the cash. We as people are not hyprocrites to disregard money because that's how we survive daily. What's more necessary to us is how we can manage ourselves in giving importance on what we do everyday with that cash inlvove in us. If the company uses electronic cash, so be it. You can't choose your own if you need a job so just work and be contended so that you can have or get your income by means of electronic cash.
699  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Reasons why Bitcoin Cash will take over Bitcoin on: August 06, 2017, 02:17:04 AM
BHC will not replace BTC. The explanation for this is clear. Bitcoin is the original form of its blockchain technology, it's trusted
Indeed it is btc all alone not bcc. For sure many people would not favor for this even me. I just hope that bcc won't get shared by many bitcoiners because probably it will be a problem and causing to worriness. It's like intimidating for some to hear bcc will rise up. But definitely that won't happen because we will always be in bitcoin's side only,the original blockchain form technology.
700  Economy / Economics / Re: How long could bitcoin last? on: August 06, 2017, 01:17:09 AM
As of right now, the bitcoin price is expected to keep going up in the next 20 years. But can it last that long? I believe it's possible. But can't it crash at a random time? Like the price going down hard.
As much as you'd love to see bitcoin to rise, you should also be prepared of that downward growth of it. You can't expect it to just rise for the next years. It would fluctuate.. and there's so many things that could happen in that 20 years. Do not hope so much on the expectations, one should be ready for the unexpected events.
There is no such prediction when this bitcoin last because people have found their comfort zone because of bitcoin. That is truly amazing how bitcoin changes the life of people in the society. We cannot even say if when will we end our life. Therefore it's just a matter of time and perseverance if are really engaged in this world of cryptocurrency. It may sound awkward from others who are not willing to invest in bitcoin but who cares let's not force them to believe in the goodness of bitcoin.
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