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581  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: STOP BUYING BITCOIN NOW!!! This coin is crap on: December 17, 2019, 02:15:28 PM
Bitcoin is a total worthless coin that is controlled by chinese miners that hate you.

Bitcoin cant do anything that ethereum can do much better.

Bitcoin is worthless and only paid shills like tone vays or antonopulus are promoting this crap coin so you can lose your money on it.

Proove me wrong before delete my thread- and what happened to free speech bitcointalk moderators?  are you paid to be chinese?


Bitcoin isnt a coin anymore for the people but it became a chinese company

stop bitcoin now
Bitcoin is a worthless coin? Don't make me laugh, because we all here know that bitcoin is the best coin ever and it is the mainstream of the cryptocurrency so if bitcoin is really a worthless or trash coin then maybe no investors will try to invest on it and how about those people who are investing to bitcoin that are not chinese? Then they are already same as the chinese citizen? because you said that bitcoin right now is a Chinese company. Not just because Chinese people become open to the world of cryptocurrency doesn't means that it is already control by the Chinese people.
Exactly, we can't deny the fact that China has a big impact on the movement of the market especially on crypto but this doesn't necessarily mean that they have the full control on cryptocurrency such as Bitcoin. Yeah, they had the largest Bitcoin mining across the world but just like what I say Bitcoin is decentralized and cannot be controlled by, anyone. Chinese would never create their own digital currency if they had control over Bitcoin. Probably OP had experienced something worse here in industry that is why he had so much bad impression on it but we cannot blame him though we all have the same experience before but because of the trust we have we manage it through.
Why have stop buying bitcoin when price still down because we can get profit later when bitcoin have higher price, but we will worry when bitcoin have lower price because bitcoin will keep lower or back with higher price again, when we are waiting miss chance buy bitcoin have lower price and chance to get profit with bitcoin is come once.
It is not about that, bitcoin is worth it because of its function in our society. There are economies who are now prefer to use bitcoin because their fiat money doesn't have value anymore. I prefer to buy bitcoin than other cryptocurrencies because I can handle the risks. I'm a day trader and there are many opportunities that we can get from trading bitcoin. I really do not know why the user who created this topic really hated the bitcoin. Maybe he losses money from it after all because he does not have enough idea how it works.
582  Local / Pamilihan / Re: Stock market: P127B lost after Duterte hits water firms on: December 17, 2019, 05:56:55 AM
Sa ngayon, nag crashed ang MWC o ang manila water company. Sa katunayan nag all time low nga ito at ang presyo ay umabot sa 5.01 per share. Madami talaga ang pang panic selling at ang daming news ang lumalabas tungkol dito. Sa pag gamit din ng fundamental analysis ay pwede natin maiwasan ang mga major loss kagaya na nangyari sa MWC na kung saan -42% ang binaba ngayong araw. Kawawa yung mga investors na hinde nakapag cut ng losses dahil sa improper risk management.
583  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 100 Most Influential People In Crypto on: December 17, 2019, 04:18:31 AM
Pretty good list they got there, even though I only know a few ones of them. Still, CZ being in the first place is no wonder at all. After all of his achievements, it's a given he is ranked 1 and as the most inflluential people in cryptocurrency.

I'm not surprised to see CZ's position is ranked 1 because he is succeeded in developing binance. But why is john mcafee so far away from position 70? Maybe John should be in the top 10 in my opinion
at first john mcafee had a tremendous influence but now people are starting to be pessimistic about him and don't care about what he says. basically the john mcafee's goal is only to market his product, entering the crypto world is one of his steps to increasingly famous (business marketing strategy) and now every talk he has about crypto is nonsense. he had not exerted any influence, so if he was ranked 70 then it was appropriate.
Right!? I also feel the same, at first I really liked John Mcafee's positiveness about all of his predictions and the way he thinks. But the more you hear it, the funnier they sound. People nowadays don't really take his words seriously, how could they not? Sometimes what he has said didn't make any sense at all.
Even there is an influential person in the world and tells his opinions or predictions, I still not believing to them. They are humans like us and they are not from future so their prediction are pure hunch and guess that have no basis. Like what John Mcafee said that the bitcoin will turn $1,000,000 per each before the 2020 ends, the year 2019 will now end and the bear market is still occuring. It is the reason why we should not believe to the influential person in the internet.
584  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Long Term VS Daily Trading on: December 17, 2019, 03:09:53 AM
actually trading last year and now is very different. if you know about trading before 2017 it will be safe if it is better to choose the long term or as a holder. but for now, I personally choose the short term when there is an opportunity to take a profit. considering it is rather difficult to get a profit with a percentage that is far away. then prepare your capital when the is price go down

It depends on the kind of trader that you are, if you are a day trader then the overall market conditions do not really matter that much, your profits will be very similar regardless of the market conditions, but if you are a swing trader then the conditions of the market affect you greatly because if the price of bitcoin does not go up at least for a few days then it is going to be impossible for you to obtain profits, and the ones that are affected the most are those that are long term traders or investors because they are the ones that hold their coins the longest.
It is really depends on the trader, you cannot say that day trade is more good than long term trader or vice versa. For those have full time job, for them long term investment is good for them because they do not need to monitor always the price of the coin because of their schedule. I'm a day trader but still I do not say that it is more good than long term trade because we have different kind of mindset, strategies and personalities.
I never said that one style of trading is better than the other it is up to each person to decide which style fits them better, you say that you are a day trader, good for you, but I don't like to day trade I do not like the idea of being in front of the screen all day just to see if I can make some money, I prefer to be a long term trader but that is what it works for me and it is not going to be the same for everyone, as long as you can obtain consistent profits then whatever method that you choose to trade is fine.
The topic is subjective after all, there are people who are good in day trading and there are people who are good in long term trading. A trader should choose between the two; in where they will make more profit. Like what you said, you are good in long term trading and it because your skills are suitable to it. If we will push a day trader to trade long term of course they will lose money because the strategy is not good to for them.
585  Economy / Speculation / Re: What's going on? on: December 17, 2019, 01:58:54 AM
It isn't new. Haven't we seen this scenario last year? The moment we are expecting the bullish market, the opposite thing happens. It's easy to see a pump and dump but we can always dance with the market, considering every dump and pump an opportunity to buy and gain benefits. Don't worry, this bear market I think is the preparation for the big pump next year.
I think he was confused about why prices rose and fell so quickly, whereas he was quite difficult to draw conclusions about whether we would end up on bears or bull markets. I also think that this happens often, and it is normal. however, we don't know whether the price of bitcoin will actually reach the bull run as we predicted or vice versa. however, the rapid rise and decrease that occur are due to the needs of each trader. all you need to do is enjoy and take advantage of every moment of fluctuation that occurs, that's what makes crypto special.
But we can have foresight on what will happen if we will use technical analysis. Before we trade, identify first what is the current trend. The preferable trend in terms of trading is uptrend because in uptrend the price is keep increasing because the buyers are in control. Right now the sellers are in control where we can observe that the price of bitcoin is having a hard time to breakout due to sellers pressure.
586  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin halving 2020 prediction on: December 16, 2019, 12:52:27 PM
youre right on that , and there are known people who just predicted bitcoin price going to skyrocket but the question is if they knew bitcoin will reach thier prediction why they arent buying? Why bitcoin price drops instead of going up because of thier predictions.
Maybe they're still waiting for the price to drop, or maybe they're just waiting for the right time. Because they are looking forward to lower prices that could be recorded next year.
But I think the price of bitcoin will increase after bitcoin halving, and let's not expect the btc price to reach $ 20,000 again as it could only reach 15,000 $ because people will sell immideiatly to safe thier profit from the possible big dump.
There are a lot of predictions that I keep seeing in the internet about the big growth of the bitcoin after the halving. I do not know if it really happens and I do not believe to anyone and I only relying to my self. I will only buy bitcoin if the bear market will be a bull market because in uptrend the price is keep rising so loss is avoidable.
587  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Before I Invest With Cryptoqurrency? on: December 16, 2019, 08:09:18 AM
If you don't want to invest in higher risk, lower market cap assets, then its best to stick to the top ranked projects on Coinmarketcap as these will offer the most balanced returns coming into next year, so build a portfolio of those with at least half in Bitcoin and you should have manageable risk
Those coins who have low market capitalization are shitcoins in the market and they are considered as illiquid tokens because of their low volume. Beginners think that they will get easily rich if they will buy a coin that is cheap and haw low volume becuaee they are expecting that its price will go to the moon, it is a wrong idea and if we want to but cryotocurrencies make sure it has high volume and it is part of the highest market capitalization in the market.
588  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: All of you Bitcoin Hodlers are mentally ill - *Must Read! on: December 16, 2019, 05:20:50 AM
Identify what kind of hodler are you? Are you the one who hold bitcoin in a long time and you will keep holding it if the market crashed? Or are you the type of the hodler who I can say that a trend follower where you will only hold bitcoin if the market is bull. A trend follower is a type of hodler that we should do because the chance of winning is high. As my personal experiece, I lose money in holding due to the bearish market and it is now not good to hold bitcoin if the market is in downtrend.
589  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Can i Bitcoin or not on: December 16, 2019, 03:50:52 AM
If this is your first experience in crypto I won't invest all 5k. I'd invest 1k in btc now, while it's a bear market, and watch the behavior of this investment.
actually a good first step to asking if you really don't understand and don't speculate. I agree with you not to invest everything into bitcoin can be divided into several items, so there are alternatives that have.
some to bitcoin and some to altcoin, but it is not recommended to buy new altcoin at ICO because it is currently not good and there are no guarantees. better to buy altcoin that already has a market and can analyze briefly at CMC to determine its choice.
You are the one who is actually to decide if you want to invest or not, but I am recommending you to do invest but first, you need to study a lot of things for you to protect your own money and to make it grow here because knowledge is important in a sector like this especially your own money is at stake. I can say that you should know different terms and information wherein can help you to the technique you want for you to earn cryptocurrency. It is actually the perfect time to invest or to buy tokens, buy low sell high.
Investment without knowledge can lead to losses, bitcoin investment is a good thing but people who want to buy bitcoins should aware to the risks of it. They are required to study first before they buy bitcoin in order to fully understand it. There are right and wrong in investing and we should invest in right time to maximize our profit and to avoid loss in our portfolio.
590  Economy / Economics / Re: Where should we focus this year? on: December 16, 2019, 02:50:56 AM
the thread was posted last year 2018  . 2018 was late imo and people only realize to start or to focus on blockchain tech ? if they do that they are now behind because others are already done with that but they can still catch up and make thier performance better so that they can won the competition  .

anyway we are now currently on the year 2019 and its also about to end   , blockchain is also more popular .  i think people are done with it and now foccusing on other things   .

it's never too late to start. It doesn't matter what year it is or people say oh you're too late the others are more than that.
as long as development is still needed there is no harm in trying, remember the more you try the more opportunities or opportunities that will arise.
There are people who doesn't want to make investment because they think that they are late. They are still many opportunities in the market and they should not be discouraged. Changing their mindset can help them to be a better person. Once they able to change their mindset then they can see the opportunities by making investment in the market. They are not late and they can still say that they are part of the early investors.
591  Economy / Economics / Re: what should consider before investing in a coin? on: December 15, 2019, 10:25:29 AM
Which scale should an investor use to go before investing in a coin? Is it the code, or the system it based, or their community strength, or is it depends on their venture capital that how much big it is?
Probably would go with the professionalism of the team, how they treat the community by answering ther questions and answering those inquiries where everyday people are curious about those stuff and you can definitely measure are those projects even worth to invest by looking at the team first.
Reviewing the people behind the project is good idea because you will identify if the project is legit or not. I also consider thr volatility amd the value of the coin before investing. I keep staying away to the coins that have high volatility. The potential coins in the market are the coins that have high volume. Those coins that have low volume are eorthless and I blocking it to my watchlists.
592  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Just earned my first 9$ in Bitcoin Cash, how can I grow it? on: December 15, 2019, 08:22:13 AM
What can I do with this 9$ worth of Bitcoin Cash to make it grow in a short time? Should I trade cryptocurrencies? How about trading bots?

If you only have Bitcoin with a circulation value of $ 9. I think, you can't do anything, because the amount is very small. My advice, you sell Bitcoin and buy EOS or Tron, then trade.
even more so you are looking for a fast way for that. Well, if you are looking for a quick way to multiply the money you have, you need to invest large amounts and I do not recommend it because it is very risky for you, and also for those who are new to the crypto world. for the time being, I suggest to hold the bitcoin cash that you get right now and start collecting it again. if you already have assets above $ 100, then you can start with trading.
9$ is too small and it is hard to multiply it. The best decision if you want to multiply it is to invest medium of capital. I think $500-$1000 is enough in trading. I started to trade and I have a starting capital of $600 and after all of these years I managed to grow it and my portfolio is now consisting of $10000. It is really hard at first to multiply it but if you focus on improving on what you know then you can also do it.
593  Local / Pilipinas / Re: [Research] Crypto holder in the Philippines on: December 15, 2019, 04:29:15 AM
Kung pagbabasehan din yung mga dating balita tungkol sa mga na scam dahil sa crypto, ibig sabihin lang nun na aware na talaga ang mga pinoy sa crypto kaya sila nag-iinvest yung nga lang karamihan sa kanila ay hindi ba ganoon kalawak ang kaalaman pagdating sa crypto kaya marami sa kanila ay naloloko pero siguro sa mga susunod na taon mas magiging aware at matalino na ang mga pinoy tungkol sa crypto.
Madami na nga ang aware na mga pinoy patungkol sa cryptocurrencies at isa tong good sign pero ang bad sign lang ay ang alam nilang information ay misleading info kung saan ang alam nila ay ang bad side ng pag gamit neto at hinde ang good side. Kaya may mga kakilala talaga akong takot na mag invest dahil nga sa takot na nabuo dahil sa wrong info na kanilang nakuha.
594  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Share Your Experiences on: December 15, 2019, 03:23:57 AM
I have known bitcoin since 2016, what I regretted was that at that time my friends recommended buying some altcoin, when they were still cheap and affordable, unfortunately I didn't buy that and the price increased at the end of 2017, but I took it's as an important lesson not to waste the best moments like that anymore
so  now you are buying altcoin already?specially early this year when the lowest market capitalization recorded after 2 years?

yes, I only have a few altcoins that have a high trading volume I have already bought them like ETH and EOS, I will wait for the moment when the bear market is really over, because I don't want to enter the market without knowledge so I need to consult my friends to get altcoin others are cheaper

many altcoins that experienced an increase higher in the last year but now decrease by 90%, including ETH and EOS. so it's still good to buy it now, just waiting for bitcoin going up because usually, some altcoins like eth will follow the movements of bitcoin. about the experience in bitcoin, I know in 2013, when the price of bitcoin was hype because it reached above $1000. since then I was interested and I get a lot of bitcoin from the bounty when the heyday of the bounty in 2014-2017.
thanks for the advice, but I need to wait for the right time, as we know the price of bitcoin is now back below $ 9000 and it makes me feel uncomfortable, but I will always be on the market preparing to buy some other recommended atlcoin
It makes you feel uncomfortable because you didn't do stop loss. You have poor risks management because even the price got breakdown you still not sell your posistion. I know that many traders are struggling and worrying because of the price of bitcoin, they gut stuck in their posistions and now they have loss in their portfolio. Holding in the year 2017 is a good decision but holding in this current year is not a good decision because the market is bear.
595  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it good to talk about big gains? on: December 15, 2019, 01:43:09 AM
We feel proud if we gain a big profit from something but we should also know the risk about bragging it.
To be honest there is nothing to gain from talking about it but fame if you are also with a gambler but if not it would depende on their point of view,
Some of them would think that you're boastful while other's would jealous.
So whenever I gain something big from anything I would just keep it to myself or tell some selected friends or family.
When I win in a big trade or big gain in gambling, I feel proud to myself because my gambling skills are effective but the thing is I do not become greedy because it will affect my future decisions. I also not a boastful person where I spreading that I won in gambling because it is not good personality. Even though I keep earning amount of money, I still know that my knowledge is still not enough and I should improve it.
596  Economy / Speculation / Re: Day Trading for a Living? on: December 14, 2019, 12:50:27 PM
I never can do day trading. Because sometime i lose and only a few times get profit. Maybe i will trade like usually traders did. Like it is ok to hold until get profit although not aim daily profit. Actually to manage my mental is really hard. But will be harder if i aim and make target daily and push it. Maybe it is right when people said that each person have their own strategy in trading.
Just like you, I am not fond of daily trade simply because I do not have enough time to check the chart every time. I am more likely comparable to those HODLers. Daily trade as I know requires a huge bankroll unlike to long-term trading because in daily trade you lose a lot more than you win hence you must have enough back-up funds so you could not lose it all and earn it back. Long-term trading, on the other hand, it is not that tedious as daily trade have because all you need to do is to wait until your coin fluctuates and then sell.
Those people who have full time job and want to become a full time trader is a foolish idea. You cannot learn trading in a few moment, it will really take a time. Those who have full time job should consider the risks. As a trader who have a job, it is really better to not quit and job amd have good time management skills where you can both focus in trading and also in your job.
597  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What matters most to online casinos? on: December 14, 2019, 10:53:26 AM
Casino slots for now can be said one online gambling game which is very popular among gambling addicts, quite a lot of people spend time online for gambling addicts, many ways and styles that can be used by them with entertainment and can make their money cool.
The point in casino gambling that needs to be noticed is to select casinos that the majority of gambling is protected by the state and their laws.
Or vice versa, choose a casino gambling site that has positive reviews on online casinos, according to which elements are most commonly carried out by people.
If we want to find out the best online casinos then we should look for the different reviews of the people in the internet. The reviews that they are saying are came from their experiences and we can identify what is the best from the rest. I also considering the support of the gambling site because most of the time we will experience problem and their supports are the ones who can help us to fix that kind of problem.
598  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Your Expectations for year 2020 on: December 14, 2019, 09:18:09 AM
I have posituve expectation in next year. I think that the bearish market will end before the 2nd Quarter of the year 2020. Right now, the bitcoin is still in consolidating stage where it gaining more power. There is a possibility that the market will turn to bull if the whales will pump its price. I do not expect high because it is better if we will just focus on what's happening in the present.
599  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Bitcoin will replace money sa aking palagay ganeto ang mangyayari on: December 14, 2019, 07:36:26 AM
Maaaring dumating ang panahon na mas marami ng tao ang gagamit ng crypto sa bawat transaction pero hindi pa rin nito marereplace and pera. Pwedeng madagdagan ang currency natin pero hindi kailanman mapapalitan ang physical money dahil marami pa ring mas pipiliin ito higit sa digital currency. Maraming darating na pagbabago sa future dahil na rin sa pagunlad ng teknolohiya pero mananatiling main currency parin natin ang pera.
alternative na pang bayad. Dapat kasi meron padin pagbabasehan na halaga sa perang papel para mag karoon ng value ung crypto , pag wala yun saan sila magbabase ng convertion niya sa totoo niya na halaga.
More and more store is now accepting crypto as payment today. But it will not definitely replace fiat's position. Kasi mas marami talaga ang pipili sa fiat kasi mas mabilis ang transaction ng fiat kesa bitcoin especially may block confirmation pa ang bitcoin every transaction kaya para sakin dun palang tagilid na ang crypto as a physical payment, Pero as an online payment? It suits very well.

Sabihin na natin na inemplement ng every governments na hindi na valuable ang fiat and they need to change it to bitcoin, It will be a very long complicated process kasi alam naman natin na sobrang volatile ng bitcoin and it is depending on the price of fiat kaya impossible mapalitan ng bitcoin ang fiat.
Kahit na madami ng store ang tumatanggap ng bitcoin hinde parin mawawala ang fiat currencies kasi may mahalaga itong functions eh. Right now nga lahat tayo mas prefer pa din gumamit ng fiat currencies kasi nga mas convenient ito hinde katulad ng pag gamit bitcoin kung saan may confirmations pa na nagpapatagal sa transactions pati na may kasamang fees na mas nakakamahal kaysa sa pag gamit ng fiat currency.
600  Economy / Economics / Re: Don't spend bitcoin. Not now. on: December 14, 2019, 06:02:41 AM
Bitcoin was not made to spend. Not for now. There is a misinterpretation of what Satoshi wrote in the Whitepaper: "A peer-to-peer eletronic cash system". He created bitcoin to be an electronic money system. This is a fact.

Before becoming a monetary system, Bitcoin must be able to preserve value over time. After that, he becomes able to earn society's trust and become a genuine cash.

People accept dollars because they believe that money is still backed by gold (as it was until the end of Bretton Woods), or because (unfortunately) they believe the government will guarantee the value of the currency.

That is, people believe in Dollar because they are sure that money will be at the same value tomorrow. Although this is not true.

99% of the world's population still does not understand, do not know and do not trust Bitcoin. And everything is fine. Bitcoin adoption is a lengthy process that may take decades or centuries to happen.

Bitcoin has never been about just being a simple means of payment. It is not like VISA or Mastercard. He is a legitimate Digital Asset and as such needs to earn trust until it is adopted as money.

Do not spend your Bitcoins. Not now.
I think you are getting the wrong idea about bitcoin because if bitcoin was not made to spend what will the reasons why a lot of people are buying bitcoin for them to earn money and used it to provide their necessities. Bitcoin is also a currency, so it was also made to spend it and it is also the reason why it is the number one cryptocurrency in the market.
It is really made for us to use it in our daily transactions an to store in our wallet. The use of bitcoin is really depend on the users. There are people who prefer to store their bitcoins in their long time because they are hoping that its value will go up so it is simply investing. The other users like me are the ones who using bitcoin in my daily lives like buying goods, services and commodities.
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