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581  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 08, 2023, 06:56:24 PM
Quote from: OROBTC on August 08, 2023, 05:11:49 PM
...

I recently asked ChatGPT if the bot assigned any value to Technical Analysis in helping to predict future BTC prices.  Briefly, the bot responded yes.  But, I would place relatively little value in that bot's analysis of TA (I have relatively little faith in TA as a price prediction tool).

Of interest to some perhaps is a new bot I ran into today: ChatBTC (not ChatGPT).  This is a new AI effort focused on BTC.

https://chat.bitcoinsearch.xyz/

I just asked the below question:

Will the 12 BIP-39 words provide enough security in Bitcoin wallets for the next 10 years?

Bot response:

Holocat
Based on the provided context, it is clear that BIP-39 words are used for backup and restoration purposes in Bitcoin wallets. These words, typically consisting of 12, 18, or 24 words, can be used to easily backup, restore, or port private keys in multiple languages. However, the question specifically asks if 12 BIP-39 words will provide enough security in Bitcoin wallets for the next 10 years.

While the context does not directly answer this question, it does provide information about the use of BIP-39 words in Bitcoin wallets. BIP-39 words serve as a seed phrase that can be used to derive private keys. The security of BIP-39 words lies in the entropy they provide. With more words, the entropy increases, making it harder for an attacker to guess or brute-force the seed phrase.

Having said that, it is important to note that the security of a Bitcoin wallet depends on various factors, including the strength of the BIP-39 words, the protection of the seed phrase, and the robustness of the underlying wallet software. While 12 BIP-39 words can provide a certain level of security, it may not be sufficient for the next 10 years if there are advancements in attacks or if the seed phrase is compromised.

To enhance the security of your Bitcoin wallet, it is recommended to follow best practices such as using a hardware wallet, keeping the seed phrase offline and securely stored, and regularly updating the wallet software. Additionally, diversifying your storage by using multiple hardware wallets from different vendors can help mitigate the risk of vendor-specific vulnerabilities or server downtimes.

In conclusion, while 12 BIP-39 words can offer a certain level of security, it is always advisable to stay updated with the latest security practices and consider additional measures to protect your Bitcoin wallet.

Sources

https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/105825#105827
[2]: https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/88115#88125
[3]: https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/68546#71647
[4]: https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/54979#54981
[5]: https://btctranscripts.com/stephan-livera-podcast/2021-07-17-andrew-chow


(I copied & pasted above response, the Forum changed some formatting a bit)

I am not nearly an expert in AI, but the bots seem to provide at least some value for now.  ChatBTC may be worth keeping an eye on.


Andreas put out a relevant vid on this yesterday.

https://odysee.com/@aantonop:8/how-chris-lost-his-bitcoin-how-you-can:8
582  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 08, 2023, 02:37:25 PM
Quote from: nutildah on August 08, 2023, 02:31:48 PM
Quote from: Hueristic on August 08, 2023, 02:15:57 PM
Quote from: philipma1957 on August 08, 2023, 02:12:27 PM
Quote from: El duderino_ on August 08, 2023, 11:06:36 AM
Quote from: nutildah on August 08, 2023, 07:46:55 AM
$35k in 5 days confirmed

Couldn’t sent 35 to support
Was at 25 max already

 Roll Eyes

I gave him the other 25 you are covered.

So $50k confirmed?

I gave you the change phil overpaid me by

LOL, Merit beggers losing it right now.
583  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 08, 2023, 02:15:57 PM
Quote from: philipma1957 on August 08, 2023, 02:12:27 PM
Quote from: El duderino_ on August 08, 2023, 11:06:36 AM
Quote from: nutildah on August 08, 2023, 07:46:55 AM
$35k in 5 days confirmed

Couldn’t sent 35 to support
Was at 25 max already

 Roll Eyes

I gave him the other 25 you are covered.

So $50k confirmed?
584  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: August 07, 2023, 02:51:53 PM
OK this made me laugh!
585  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: August 06, 2023, 04:27:14 PM
Quote from: DireWolfM14 on August 05, 2023, 04:33:58 PM
The way things were last year certainly didn't hurt Hueristic, he was doing horribly at the start of the season, and made a ton of smart moves despite the random waiver order.

Thanks man, I really spent way too much time on this and think me and Mo were tied with like 60 moves by the end of the season with someone I forget close behind, it was a real battle last year and every minuscule edge you could get was sorely needed. I really was reeling from losing those 4 guys week 1, 2 years straight of massive injuries is enough I deserve an easy year! Cheesy

For you guys that are not used to setting up waivers its kind of like a if then else statement if you program. Set your number 1 pick and then those you want after that but then repeat those same picks with different players you want to drop as you don't want to have your first pick work and then have all the other ones fail because the drop you did is no longer there. Also stacking the order with mutiple guys in differnet order is important if you are trying to make sure you keep a balanced bench by position. Its really easy to get position heavy if you stack your waiver order incorrectly and if a position dries up as usually happens about half way through the season then it can haunt you the rest of the season.

Hope this made some semblance on sense, I'm a little hungover today. Smiley
586  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 06, 2023, 03:57:52 PM
Quote from: Hueristic on July 20, 2023, 03:52:53 PM
Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on July 20, 2023, 11:21:35 AM
Back above $30,000 but still ranging between $29,500 and $31,800. It’s getting a bit boring but we’ll have a significant breakout within the next month or so. My bet would be to the upside.

Nothing else to say really, apart from buy any significant dip.

We’re in the first weeks of a new bull market, nothing exciting until 2024 unfortunately. Time to kick back and enjoy the rest of the summer.
Quote from: Hueristic on July 16, 2023, 01:13:03 AM
Quote from: Hueristic on July 07, 2023, 04:37:21 AM
Quote from: Hueristic on July 03, 2023, 12:50:32 AM
Quote from: Hueristic on June 28, 2023, 06:03:43 AM
587  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: August 06, 2023, 03:43:24 PM
Quote from: nutildah on August 06, 2023, 01:45:00 AM
I thought this was kind of interesting, even though I haven't played Madden for 5 years or so:



I think its pretty accurate, except I would probably switch the Dolphins with the Chargers. I've always rooted for Tagovailoa but think Herbert is a slightly better QB. Of course it also depends on what kind of weapons they have to help them out. Chargers have Mike Williams and Keenan Allen but Dolphins do have Tyreek Hill who had his best season with the Dolphins last year after 6 seasons with the Chiefs... hmm.

Cowgirls shouldn't even make that list, I agree the Fins need to be higher as well as the chargers, 49ers too, actually 5-7 should be dropped to 8,9 and cowgirls replaced with any number of teams:P

I stopped on Madden when they took out the offline in franchise mode, I think that was in 12.

Me and some friends used to just do the coaching and team management and sit and watch the games without controlling players and it was a blast!




Quote from: Hhampuz on August 06, 2023, 08:35:28 AM
Quote from: Hueristic on August 05, 2023, 11:05:15 PM
Quote from: Hhampuz on August 05, 2023, 10:49:56 PM
Full?

Yes, we have decided on the deadline being the 13th of august for you to lock up your spot (3 weeks prior to draft day [sept.3]).

I think I can speak for everyone when I say we all enjoyed your company and hope you can manage to stay with us for another year. Smiley

Fine, I'll play one more year with you guys  Grin
588  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: August 05, 2023, 11:05:15 PM
Quote from: Hhampuz on August 05, 2023, 10:49:56 PM
Full?

Yes, we have decided on the deadline being the 13th of august for you to lock up your spot (3 weeks prior to draft day [sept.3]).

I think I can speak for everyone when I say we all enjoyed your company and hope you can manage to stay with us for another year. Smiley
589  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: August 05, 2023, 10:35:08 PM
Quote from: DireWolfM14 on August 05, 2023, 04:33:58 PM
Well, this all looks settled to me.  Unless I forgot something, please let me know.

1) Spot lockup deadline: 3 Weeks (7 votes in favor)

2) date of draft day: Sunday, September 3rd (7 participants agree)

3) Accept Yahoo and Seek3r into joining the league? Yes (7 votes in favor)

4) Keep Hueristic as Commish? Yes (7 votes in favor)

5) Keep DireWolfM14 as treasurer? Yes (6 votes in favor)

6) should we go into debating and voting for rule changes before the player list is set and dues are collected?: Yes (7 votes in favor)

Code:
1) Spot lockup deadline: 3 weeks prior to draft day. 
Yes:
ChiBitCTy
nutildah
hueristic
bbc.reporter Agreed, but 2 weeks before is also okay.
DireWolfM14
suchmoon
morvillz7z

2) date of draft day
bbc.reporter Sat or Sunday
Hueristic Sat or Sunday
ChiBitCTy Sunday
nutildah sat or sun
DireWolfM14: Friday, Saturday, or Sunday
suchmoon: No preference of day, ~17:00 UTC
morvillz7z: Sunday

3) Accept Yahoo and Seek3r into joining the league?
Yes:
Hueristic
ChiBitCTy
nutildah
bbc.reporter
DireWolfM14
suchmoon
morvillz7z

4) Keep Hueristic as Commish?
Yes:
Hueristic
ChiBitCTy
nutildah
bbc.reporter
DireWolfM14
suchmoon
morvillz7z

5) Keep DireWolfM14 as treasurer?
Yes:
Hueristic
ChiBitCTy
nutildah
bbc.reporter
suchmoon
morvillz7z

6) should we go into debating and voting for rule changes before the player list is set and dues are collected?
Yes:
Hueristic
ChiBitCTy
nutildah
bbc.reporter
DireWolfM14
suchmoon
morvillz7z

Now for something completely different; a man with more questions:

1. For what time do you prefer to schedule the draft?  I vote for ~12:00 UTC and later, or 05:00 UTC and earlier.

2. Get rid of kickers?  NO!

3. Change waiver order to reverse standings?  Yes.*

*This isn't such a big deal to me, really.  I don't mind keeping things the way they are, so consider this a soft vote.  The way things were last year certainly didn't hurt Hueristic, he was doing horribly at the start of the season, and made a ton of smart moves despite the random waiver order.

I just think that "reverse standings" could help keep the league more competitive, and it's worth trying for a year.

I think it's fair to allow yahoo62278 and seek3r to vote on the above questions.

Thanks for doing the update.

1) Draft time I think we used EST last year and no-one had issues with that so I'd say we stay with it so there are no mistakes.  I have no issue with 2-8pm EDT so if everyone states there range and preferences of which mine would be 7pm then i'm sure we can hit a happy median for everyone and I think we used 7pm last year.

2) Kickers , I'm ambivalent on this but if we changed kickers to flex we would have a serious issue with lack of choices on the waiver wire.

3) We have 3 choice and used continual rolling list last year.
a) Continual Rolling List
b) Reverse Order of Standings
c) Weekly Rolling List Based on Standings :My vote

OK I've thought alot about this recently we currently have Continual rolling which is probably the most advantageous to those who had a good draft as they can save up their waiver for when they really want a guy and their priority will be increasing every week they don't use it as those that use it drop to the bottom and it DOES NOT reset every week.

For a more friendly league a reverse order of standings gives the last place team the first priority and is RESET every week and this allows losing teams a chance to build a team from the wire thereby making them more competitive and less likely to give up and quit as no-one likes being stuck with guys that are under performing with no hope of getting good replacements. Now the only issue I see with this is if you build a good team and half way through the season your top guy hits IR then you may not be able to get a decent replacement until you lose so many weeks your no longer in contention. So I have been thinking maybe we can have a Hybrid waiver order where at the beginning of the season we allow the reverse order every week until say week 6 and then switch to continual rolling for the remaining weeks which should help everyone out similarly if I understand everything correctly.

Also I prefer "Weekly Rolling List Based on Standings waiver priority" which is the same as "Reverse Order of Standings" except you drop to the bottom when you use your waiver which is only fair.



Code:
Yahoo's description of waiver types:

    
[b]About Continual Rolling List waiver priority[/b]

    Managers are ranked from high to low to determine who wins a waiver claim.
    The initial priority rank is determined by the league's draft:
        Live and Autopick Drafts - The last draft position gets 1st rank.
        Offline Drafts - The last to register gets 1st rank.
    Every time a manager's claim is successful, they drop to the bottom of the priority list.
    The priority list is never reset.

[b]About Reverse Order of Standings waiver priority[/b]

    Managers are ranked from high to low to determine who wins a waiver claim.
    The initial priority rank is determined by the league's draft:
        Live and Autopick Drafts - The last draft position gets 1st rank.
        Offline Drafts - The last to register gets 1st rank.
    After each Game Week in the regular season, the waiver priority list is reset:
        The new rank is determined by the reverse order of the current league standings (the manager with the lowest league standing gets 1st rank).
        When playoffs begin, the waiver priority list stops resetting.
    Ranks are not affected by:
        Successful waiver claims.
        Stat corrections that affect the league standings after the current week's rank has been determined.

[b]About Weekly Rolling List Based on Standings waiver priority[/b]

This priority [b]is the same as the "Reverse Order of Standings" waiver priority[/b], except that when a manager's claim is successful, that manager drops to the bottom of the priority list.



I am Sending Yahoo and S33k3r invite links to join right now.

Also I think everyone agreed on the .0025btc fee staying the same so we can get our dues in to DW when he provides an addy.
Also I prefer to use Monero is its OK with DW.



Quote
I think it's fair to allow yahoo62278 and seek3r to vote on the above questions.

Absolutely, once someone is accepted into the league they should have full voting and Veto rights.


Quote from: suchmoon on August 04, 2023, 03:25:49 AM
Yes. I vote for no rule changes though Smiley

You ol stick in the mud! Cheesy


Quote from: nutildah on August 04, 2023, 04:52:45 AM
Quote from: suchmoon on August 04, 2023, 03:25:49 AM
Yes. I vote for no rule changes though Smiley

Me as well... I'm a fan of consistency.

U2!



Quote from: nutildah on August 04, 2023, 04:52:45 AM
So today was the pre-preseason game, Jets vs. Browns. I only watched the recap but I noticed that Greg Zuerlein put the first six points on the board... See? Kickers are important!

Not totally surprising that Rogers sat on the sidelines for the whole game. Will be interesting to see how he does this year. And I never thought I'd say this, but I missed Chris Collinsworth's voice.

Next games are on the 10th: Texans vs. Pats and Vikings vs. Seahawks


Yeah it was a snoozer, but was cool to hear collinsworth, I've been watching redzone so much last few years I almost forgot what the regular announcers sound like.


Quote from: morvillz7z on August 04, 2023, 02:55:58 PM
League rules don't need much changing, my only issue is with the waiver order. I believe that the default setting "reverse standing" is a better option since "continual rolling" can be in a way exploited, with higher seeds receiving top priority as long as they play the waiver passively. Reverse standing will also improve league competitiveness by providing a much-needed boost to teams with bad records mid-through the season.

Agreed but rolling can also be exploited if your devious enough to tank your fisrt few weeks.

Thats why I recommended Weekly Rolling List Based on Standings.


Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 05, 2023, 06:35:21 AM
However, the rule change on waivers, will it make it easier for not very good fantasy players like me? I would have to agree to that change if yes hehehehehe.

You made some great moves last year!

I for one thought you were insane when You picked CMC over J.Taylor!

Well guess I ate some crow on that one! Smiley

Also you were leading for what the first half of the season and the only reason you didn't win imo was your bench depth.

You came in 3rd I think and for a second year player against the quality of players in this league I'd say that was a massive accomplishment!


Quote from: ChiBitCTy on August 05, 2023, 12:13:53 AM

I could argue that someone not "playing the waivers" is using less of it up, so they are more deserving of getting that next spot in the order.  Why should someone be rewarded for playing poorly? They could be picking up and dropping players like crazy AND get preferential treatment on the waiver wire...I'm not a fan of this personally.  



Its such a tough balance to keep a league competitive and also fun, this is why I have been thinking a hybrid approach may be best for all players.
Quote from: suchmoon on August 04, 2023, 03:25:49 AM
Yes. I vote for no rule changes though Smiley

You ol stick in the mud! Cheesy


Quote from: nutildah on August 04, 2023, 04:52:45 AM
Quote from: suchmoon on August 04, 2023, 03:25:49 AM
Yes. I vote for no rule changes though Smiley

Me as well... I'm a fan of consistency.

U2!



Quote from: nutildah on August 04, 2023, 04:52:45 AM
So today was the pre-preseason game, Jets vs. Browns. I only watched the recap but I noticed that Greg Zuerlein put the first six points on the board... See? Kickers are important!

Not totally surprising that Rogers sat on the sidelines for the whole game. Will be interesting to see how he does this year. And I never thought I'd say this, but I missed Chris Collinsworth's voice.

Next games are on the 10th: Texans vs. Pats and Vikings vs. Seahawks


Yeah it was a snoozer, but was cool to hear collinsworth, I've been watching redzone so much last few years I almost forgot what the regular announcers sound like.


Quote from: morvillz7z on August 04, 2023, 02:55:58 PM
League rules don't need much changing, my only issue is with the waiver order. I believe that the default setting "reverse standing" is a better option since "continual rolling" can be in a way exploited, with higher seeds receiving top priority as long as they play the waiver passively. Reverse standing will also improve league competitiveness by providing a much-needed boost to teams with bad records mid-through the season.

Agreed but rolling can also be exploited if your devious enough to tank your fisrt few weeks.

Thats why I recommended Weekly Rolling List Based on Standings.


Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 05, 2023, 06:35:21 AM
However, the rule change on waivers, will it make it easier for not very good fantasy players like me? I would have to agree to that change if yes hehehehehe.

You made some great moves last year!

I for one thought you were insane when You picked CMC over J.Taylor!

Well guess I ate some crow on that one! Smiley

Also you were leading for what the first half of the season and the only reason you didn't win imo was your bench depth.

You came in 3rd I think and for a second year player against the quality of players in this league I'd say that was a massive accomplishment!


Quote from: ChiBitCTy on August 05, 2023, 12:13:53 AM

I could argue that someone not "playing the waivers" is using less of it up, so they are more deserving of getting that next spot in the order.  Why should someone be rewarded for playing poorly? They could be picking up and dropping players like crazy AND get preferential treatment on the waiver wire...I'm not a fan of this personally.  



Its such a tough balance to keep a league competitive and also fun, this is why I have been thinking a hybrid approach may be best for all players.


^Holy shit I made a JJG post!
590  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: August 04, 2023, 12:57:28 AM
Voting tally: If I missed anyone let me know

1) Spot lockup deadline

3 weeks prior to draft day.

Yes:
ChiBitCTy
nutildah
hueristic
bbc.reporter Agreed, but 2 weeks before is also okay.

2) date of draft day
bbc.reporter Sat or Sunday
Hueristic Sat or Sunday
ChiBitCTy Sunday
nutildah sat or sun

3) Vote on Yahoo and Seek3r joining the league?
 Yes:
Hueristic
ChiBitCTy
nutildah
bbc.reporter

4) Keep Hueristic as Commish?
Yes:
Hueristic
ChiBitCTy
nutildah
bbc.reporter

5) Keep DireWolfM14 as treasurer?
Yes:
Hueristic
ChiBitCTy
nutildah
bbc.reporter

6) should we go into debating and voting for rule changes before the player list is set and dues are collected?
Yes:
Hueristic
ChiBitCTy
nutildah
bbc.reporter


Points to debate after we finish the above, once again if I missed one let me know:

South Park:
1) Should we change the playoff format?
And let 6 teams to move to the playoffs with the top two teams getting a BYE or maybe expand it to 8 teams as some may not like not playing their teams on the most important part of the season?
2) About the second league, I am in, now we just have to wait to see if there is enough interest on it.

DireWolfM14:
1. What do you guys think of having two payouts?  I was thinking the second place team gets double the entry fee, and winner takes the rest.  

morvillz7z:
1. replace kicker with a flex spot
2. switch from continual rolling waivers to reverse standings

yahoo62278:
What is the buy-in and who/where are we sending it? I see .0025 mentioned but I want to be sure.

nutildah
Payout structure
how many teams we have advancing to the playoffs


*Just noticed I havn't heard from Suchmoon but was pretty sure they had mentioned they would be in so I think I auto locked them up.
I pm'd and am waiting on a reply.
591  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2023, 07:59:04 PM
Quote from: BitcoinPak on August 02, 2023, 07:53:07 PM
Hi, important news i just read on twitter United state Justice Department is considering fraud charges against Binance - Semafor
Another day, another FUD...
I think not see the DOJ pursuing the fraudster bankers in the fiat world
Billions in fines but no criminal charges

or may be other prospective is that thay Indirectly want money from Binance.

Source



Translation:

Uncle Sam: Wheres my cut?
592  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2023, 06:58:09 PM
Quote from: JayJuanGee on August 02, 2023, 04:08:37 PM
Quote from: Hueristic on August 02, 2023, 04:32:12 AM
you wouldn't believe how long my list is.

I don't believe it.

You will have to convince me.

Weird I wonder if I did a purge. Swear it used to be longer. Smiley

Code:
kwukduck
CODERsp
markm
cypherdoc
mich
Soepkip
hdclover
wachtwoord
becoin
bitcoinpaul
_mr_e
2dogs
tealover
forzendiablo
bittick
Hawker
pa
Hippie Tech
camosoul
kbroadfoot
ocminer
kelsey
btcxyzzz
Hunyadi
pehoko
yokosan
maomao
visual111
Zeronic
FLHippy
franky1
NoFuel
Selektor
CoinHoarder
SimpleMan
rpietila
kcminer
A1ex
lolikop
bernard75
afbitcoins
Dimitry
bitwolf
Bitdonator
oaxaca
ivankoh
acec
Indamuck
El Dude
MicroGuy
leopard2
NetcodePool
cod
toknormal
boomboom
Passion_ltc
fox19891989
BrainShutdown
bluemeanie1
ktbken
GröBkAz
laris2
iGotSpots
Ximp
ChartBuddy
RobRoy
dragonhunter
Vlad2Vlad
numismatist
bigfish321
mymenace
MsCollec
Bitcycle
jonoiv
r3wt
dotcoin.info
Zackgeno96
BitQuick.net
SimonTower
GBattaglia
Artifex
Tyke
rikkejohn
jpmi1
gaba
megges
Tzupy
Sikorskiy
Herp
maxx11
MasterMined710
Spoetnik
johan11
DStefanov
troiste
boxuser
ruggero
RapidBalls
BADecker
iloveBTCtomuch
cinnamon_carter
Ibian
glerant
inBitweTrust
teramit
UnDerDoG81
wenwen
mladen00
Willisius
WillBit
nyktalgia
cexylikepie
start the art
bitcoinlitcoinbtcltc
raistlinthewiz
gagalady
kuroman
KeyserSozeMC
Richard Branson
giletto
naaktslak
walonek
BitCao
okimzti
crypto_zoidberg
hostmaster
Minecache
DieJohnny
AlexGR
vighter
RD965
Sharkzz1
benthach
BrianM
Coindgr
BTC5OOO
mikenz
sava0123
tk808
Bobsurplus
murderouskirk
techman
niceman
Brilliantrocket
gerbill
roastbeef
adversor
durilup
binaryclock
C3ALL
adolf512
pikuchato
fast-pool.com
amarian12
raoulduke33
primer-
bakedraccoon
virtualdn
Simakki
luckygenough56
Neotox
YinShuiSiYuan
yang5034
fpmk
p2pool.name
fearcoka
coinpool_de
Anonz
dogepool
grendel25
spikers
dminer69
bonesoul
EndlessWin
Ezravdb
Triffin
JakeThePanda
pastet89
LifeOfDoge
tx42
HunterS
dogemine
bangomatic
mycoinpool
loltrunken
robelneo
Jherek
kahir
cryptonit
bitcasino.io
flis1986
DynhoSts
moonpool
LeoC
dbt1033
DreadLordColi
nafie29
Stealthcoin
rednalexa
crackfoo
vitaminas
CoinGirl
monik09
Superdrac
romawi
novag
TheIrishman
HowDoge
youngmike
Bigballs
Jeff8247
ABCBTC
animalu
drepteck
richfinch
Trishula
nrg_wolf
morehash
nomoreheroes7
YourMine.org
jibble
BTCspoon
PhattyBanks
duda
BestRig
c-cex
jeff88
RonPaul
Sigmarsson
zneww
dedicatedpoolcom
SCryptoMiners
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also be aware I hit the show button alot, I just find it easier to block out the noise and let it in a little at a time if I feel like it.
593  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: August 02, 2023, 06:30:00 PM
Quote from: seek3r on August 02, 2023, 06:20:32 AM
Thanks for reminding me, Hueristic.

I would love to participate in this year. Maybe I need some help at the beginning because its my first Fantasy League but that are my only concerns right now.
In one of our posts you already mentioned some points that would be interesting for me aswell: Buyin, Start, 2nd league?!?!

Lets goo!!!!

Cool now that you checked in I think we are ready to start voting.

Roll call.

suchmoon, IN

nutildah, IN

bbc.reporter, IN

South Park, IN

wheelz1200, IN

DireWolfM14, IN

morvillz7z, IN

Hampus, Undecided

ChiBitCTy, IN

Hueristic, IN

yahoo62278, Added

seek3r added


So first thing we need to decide is deadline for keeping a spot locked up.

1) Spot lockup deadline

I vote 3 weeks prior to draft day.

2) date of draft day

I vote Sat or Sun before kickoff thursday.
I tend to goto casino friday nights.

3) Any Veto's on Yahoo and Seek3r joining the league?

I'm guessing this is a non issue but I want it to be fair and impartial.
I vote allow both unequivocally.

4) Keep me as Commish?

I vote yes unless someone else wants it and then I may change my vote.

5) Keep DW as treasurer?

I vote yes as he has done a stellar job the last 2 years.

6) should we go into debating and voting for rule changes before the player list is set and dues are collected?

I'm unsure but I would lean yes as we can still get a majority vote without having everyone locked in.


Thats all I can think off of the top of my head that we need to address before the league for 2023 can be cemented and we can start discussing rules.


Also anyone intested in a second league we can start a list now and choose a comish and format.
594  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: August 02, 2023, 04:50:32 AM
Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 02, 2023, 04:41:15 AM
I agree with @DireWolfM14 on having 2 payouts. If I remember correctly, everything went to the winner last year. This season we have 2 more recruits.

We had a tie last year, remember the guy that died on the field from the Bills that collided with Higgins?


Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 02, 2023, 04:41:15 AM
Their entry fees can go to my opponent as 2nd prize after the final.

LOL, I think we will probably all agree 2 or even 3 places will be good this year.




AFA a Deadline for locking up last years position I'm going to throw out 3 weeks before the season starts as it should give us 2 weeks to get another player if someone cannot commit and 1 week buffer for the draft.

Also if someone cannot commit we can still have them on the list if their circumstances change before we lock in a new player.
595  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2023, 04:32:12 AM
Quote from: nutildah on August 02, 2023, 03:18:48 AM
You know what, its fine if he wants to do that, but he should do it somewhere else. The twitter copy/pasting is void of any signs of intelligence or original thought and is just sad. In no way is copy/pasting from twitter a "well constructive" post. Every time he gives a multi-accounting spammer a merit, it encourages them to make 2 more accounts which they then use to fish for merits by spamming this thread.



same thing with Duderino... WTF could you possibly be thinking. you're only encouraging laziness and stupidity by rewarding this behavior.

Sometimes you can forget to check if the poster is a scumsucker when you see what looks like Great News.

*another good argument for using the ignore button on these spammers.

you wouldn't believe how long my list is.
596  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: August 02, 2023, 03:34:23 AM
Quote from: ChiBitCTy on July 28, 2023, 06:48:45 PM
I got your email Hueristic, and of course you know I'm in. 

When it comes to Yahoo rankings, typically I hate when my team has a good score. Good scores come from people who draft the next man up, which the system has ranked as the best player at that time, and so it adds the most points towards ranking the drafts.  That's why I hate when I get a good grade.  It means I haven't reached around enough for the outlier players. ( Edit: I just realized Wheelz essentially said the same thing lol)

Looking forward to the season ya'll..next Thursday is the first preseason game!

thx for mentioning the email system worked fine, first time I tried it.


Quote from: DireWolfM14 on July 28, 2023, 01:27:29 PM
That is funny.  IIRC, I was ranked 3rd after the draft and finished in 9th.  Pretty dismal year for me, hope to do better this year.  I still feel like winning 2021 was a fluke for me, but I'll keep reminding you guys that I won 2021.  Grin

Lol, I'm trying to forget that year. Smiley

Quote from: DireWolfM14 on July 28, 2023, 01:27:29 PM
The season starts Thursday September 7th, so I think we should have our draft the weekend before; Friday September 1st or Saturday the 2nd.  That's just a bit over a month away.
If we do end up with 12 teams, I like the idea of 8 making it to the playoffs.  Quarter finals on week 15, Semi finals week 16, and Finals week 17.

Works for me but I think Sunday the 3rd should be on the table as well.


Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 27, 2023, 08:14:02 PM
Are we including preseason? Post season?
Not normally but if you have something you want to do for them just ask.
AFA a separate thread IIRC last year we decided to stay in this thread but I can put it on the vote list if you want.
597  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: August 02, 2023, 03:23:53 AM
Ok so lets do a roll call here and see whats what.

suchmoon, IN

nutildah, IN

bbc.reporter, IN

South Park, IN

wheelz1200, IN

DireWolfM14, IN

morvillz7z, IN

Hampus, Undecided

ChiBitCTy, IN

Hueristic, IN

yahoo62278, Added

seek3r waiting on confirmation, pm'd

^^^-- If this list is incorrect let me know so I can update as we need this in stone before we vote for rules and settings.




Looks like first point of order is what deadline for locking up a slot.


Also we need to deciding draft date, IIRC we drafted the Sunday before week 1 last year?


Points to debate after we decide the final roster:

South Park:
1) Should we change the playoff format?
And let 6 teams to move to the playoffs with the top two teams getting a BYE or maybe expand it to 8 teams as some may not like not playing their teams on the most important part of the season?
2) About the second league, I am in, now we just have to wait to see if there is enough interest on it.

DireWolfM14:
1. What do you guys think of having two payouts?  I was thinking the second place team gets double the entry fee, and winner takes the rest.  

morvillz7z:
1. replace kicker with a flex spot
2. switch from continual rolling waivers to reverse standings

yahoo62278:
What is the buy-in and who/where are we sending it? I see .0025 mentioned but I want to be sure.



If I missed a point then let me know so I can add it, also if anyone wants to add a point then just quote the current points and add yours to the bottom and that way none will get lost as we progress and the last quoted one should be the most updated.
598  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: July 28, 2023, 07:21:11 PM
Quote from: Hhampuz on July 28, 2023, 05:16:48 AM
Not sure if I'll be able to join this year unfortunately. Is there a deadline for when I have to give a final decision?


I don't remember if we set one last year but thats something we need to discuss if we didnt.


Wan to reply to all you guys but really busy today, will get to it later.

also make sure you said to lock your spot up if you haven't.

those that haven't replied yet i'm going to guess probably used a toss away email for the league so could someone pm them for me, if not i'll do it when i get a minute.
599  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: July 27, 2023, 10:31:10 PM
Quote from: wheelz1200 on July 27, 2023, 10:27:42 PM
I'm down for whatever price on the ff.

Cool beans. Smiley

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In real football news, thank God giants signed Barkley, that would have been a huge hole at running back.  Signed Jones for years and Thomas our left tackle for years.  They are 8.5-1 to win the nfc east.  I know eagles are favorites but I can see them regressing some.  Might throw a flyer on the g men

I would say its better than even money they can catch a wildcard slot this year.





I went back and looked at yahoo's ratings of our draft report card last year and the top 3 teams were all rated in the bottom 4!  

I found that highly amusing.

https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/373233
600  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: July 27, 2023, 08:30:23 PM
Quote from: South Park on July 27, 2023, 08:06:23 PM
If everyone comebacks from the previous season and with the addition of @seek3r and @yahoo62278 then it seems we reached the goal to expand to a 12 player league, but maybe we should check just in case as maybe not everyone has the time to join the league this year.

I'll send out a pm sometime soon.



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Assuming everyone returns, should we change the playoff format? And let 6 teams to move to the playoffs with the top two teams getting a BYE or maybe expand it to 8 teams as some may not like not playing their teams on the most important part of the season?

Good question, should start tallying a list for us to vote on once we have everyone in the thread participating.


Quote
About the second league, I am in, now we just have to wait to see if there is enough interest on it.

cool, we need a list of this as well for who's interested.


Quote
And finally about the sleeper app, does it has a browser version so can I draft and do all what I could need to manage a team? If not and the majority decides to migrate to the app I will make do, but I really prefer to do things from my desktop computer rather than to use apps as the size of the font is kind of small, so if the sleeper website has that option that would be great.

I also prefer desktop sites and tried sleeper last year but their stats were wrong and they never replied to my emails asking for corrections.


Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 27, 2023, 08:14:02 PM
I don't care what app we use as long as I have a little time to look around and get familiar with it(1 week). What is the buy-in and who/where are we sending it? I see .0025 mentioned but I want to be sure. Are we including preseason? Post season? Will there be a separate thread with everything we need to know?

These are things we tend to vote on after we get the league settled on who's in for the season.


EDIT: OK guys I emailed everyone in the league to drop in here and just let everyone know they will be playing again this year.

https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/373233
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