Why is this thread still not locked ?
Bloody scammer
Scammer or not, it's for the community to decide and police it. The forum's policy is to monitor the basics such as spam, off-topic threads, not scams. The guy admitted to be a scammer He might be saying sarcastically (not saying he was, it can be interpreted in a way). What I noticed that the moderation policy is to controll objective problems such as spam, flame wars and leave any subjective problems for the users to fix. This is a libertarian oriented forum after all, freedom of action, speech and such. He said that AND didn't pay anyone Do you need more proof? Read the quoted post bellow: Why is this thread still not locked ?
Bloody scammer
Scammer or not, it's for the community to decide and police it. The forum's policy is to monitor the basics such as spam, off-topic threads, not scams. The guy admitted to be a scammer He might be saying sarcastically (not saying he was, it can be interpreted in a way). What I noticed that the moderation policy is to controll objective problems such as spam, flame wars and leave any subjective problems for the users to fix. This is a libertarian oriented forum after all, freedom of action, speech and such. He wasn't saying it sarcastically; he was being mocking and just rubbing it in. So is this actually a scammer-tolerant forum, i.e. scammers ain't banned, and their threads ain't locked? What other libertarianisms does it allow? My goodness, I truly am a Lawful Good little mouse  The rules are somewhat paradoxical at times. Scammers usually aren’t banned but spammers sometimes are, and each mod has a different definition or what a actually spammer is. The thing is that everything people say can be interpreted subjectively and such interpretation can be handled in a bad way. For example, let's say I post in a forum called TyrannyTalk that "I don't like that Steve guy" while Steve is a friend of the admin. The admin takes an alt army and slanders me with posts about me scamming users, presents faked proof. After that he orders the mods to ban me and poof, banned. See what I mean? Meanwhile in BitcoinTalk people see a scammer and each user with different amounts of rep rates him appropriately. Another user dealing with him sees the ratings and makes a descision to trade with him or to cancel the deal. The whole discussion started because he wasn't banned and the thread wasn't locked. I was talking about the policy, not separate cases. In this case, yeah, I know, he's a lowlife scammer, but the policy is that the community decides if he's guilty not the mods. |
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How about Bitbaby.
What about whe she grows up? She won't be a baby forever. |
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Name: lateblooming Posts: 138 Activity: 136 Till the 17th I wont be able to post 50 posts...so after the first (next) month of 50 posts i'll hand in my btcadress  Just a reccomendation, but use the exact same signup format shown in the first post. |
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Payout still didnt work for me  The BitVegas wallet was refilled, not the BitAds one. Why isn't there an automatic system for this? I think because he is around, most of the time. Also, having such a system running in the background is a high risk if someone hacks the website/server. Still it should work... why set up a service like this and not keep it up (especially when it seems to be doing well) smells like a scam too me Maybe he's having personal issues? Family or career problems maybe? But the other wallet did got refilled right? i mean he got on to refill that wallet but not the bitads one? But ofcourse he can have personal problems, thats not any of my bussiness and if he has i hope for the best for him and bitads since it seemed like a good service/ad network. Maybe there's another member who has full admin access on Bitvegas, while Bitads was more of a personal venture? |
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Why is this thread still not locked ?
Bloody scammer
Scammer or not, it's for the community to decide and police it. The forum's policy is to monitor the basics such as spam, off-topic threads, not scams. The guy admitted to be a scammer He might be saying sarcastically (not saying he was, it can be interpreted in a way). What I noticed that the moderation policy is to controll objective problems such as spam, flame wars and leave any subjective problems for the users to fix. This is a libertarian oriented forum after all, freedom of action, speech and such. He wasn't saying it sarcastically; he was being mocking and just rubbing it in. So is this actually a scammer-tolerant forum, i.e. scammers ain't banned, and their threads ain't locked? What other libertarianisms does it allow? My goodness, I truly am a Lawful Good little mouse The rules are somewhat paradoxical at times. Scammers usually aren’t banned but spammers sometimes are, and each mod has a different definition or what a actually spammer is. The thing is that everything people say can be interpreted subjectively and such interpretation can be handled in a bad way. For example, let's say I post in a forum called TyrannyTalk that "I don't like that Steve guy" while Steve is a friend of the admin. The admin takes an alt army and slanders me with posts about me scamming users, presents faked proof. After that he orders the mods to ban me and poof, banned. See what I mean? Meanwhile in BitcoinTalk people see a scammer and each user with different amounts of rep rates him appropriately. Another user dealing with him sees the ratings and makes a descision to trade with him or to cancel the deal. |
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Payout still didnt work for me The BitVegas wallet was refilled, not the BitAds one. Why isn't there an automatic system for this? I think because he is around, most of the time. Also, having such a system running in the background is a high risk if someone hacks the website/server. Still it should work... why set up a service like this and not keep it up (especially when it seems to be doing well) smells like a scam too me Maybe he's having personal issues? Family or career problems maybe? |
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So is this actually a scammer-tolerant forum, i.e. scammers ain't banned, and their threads ain't locked? What other libertarianisms does it allow? My goodness, I truly am a Lawful Good little mouse No, this a dream of a viligante/angry mob. The community scams, the community handles the scams and scammers. Trust system is one of the tools. |
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Why is this thread still not locked ?
Bloody scammer
Scammer or not, it's for the community to decide and police it. The forum's policy is to monitor the basics such as spam, off-topic threads, not scams. The guy admitted to be a scammer He might be saying sarcastically (not saying he was, it can be interpreted in a way). What I noticed that the moderation policy is to controll objective problems such as spam, flame wars and leave any subjective problems for the users to fix. This is a libertarian oriented forum after all, freedom of action, speech and such. |
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Still no news?
Last Active: December 02, 2013, 01:34:20 PM Probably not as not many members actually know how to contact him in RL. |
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mprep
Back for my daily bonus. Thanks again and hope to get credited soon.
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Maybe, but if the mods banned users wouldn't they be those who "have all the power"?
In the moderator policing the forums case, theymos controls who he wants to asign and you can't do crap, in the trust rating situation, theymos asigns who he wants in the DefaultTrust however you can change it to what you want. Besides what kind of idiot doesn't check out all the trust ratings before doing a trade with that person?
The kind of idiots that get scammed on here daily  . And the opposite is also abused. A scammer can make a few accounts, give himself feedback from 5 of them so he looks legit, then scams anybody who trusts him. No system is perfect, but putting trust in this trust system is where people fall down as it gives them a false sense of security. Welcome to the jungle. Smart people win, dumb people lose. The system is definitely better than the high probability of turning the centralized system into a tyranny. It doesn't have to be one or the other and especially Tyranny vs Complete Lawless Anarchy where anything goes and every man for himself. A middle ground needs to be achieved (or at least attempted). And that it is. Trust rating system, theymos' DefaultTrust, Scam accusation forums and of course your brain. But a trust system that doesn't really work that well or is open to abuse isn't such a great middle ground and gives a false sense of security to those who are not in the know. Scam Accusations don't really matter because those are after the scams have been perpetrated and the scammers are long gone. And obviously most people who do get scammed don't use their brain. If they ain't using their brain, it's their fault. They better learn in this forum, than (like I did) in real life. |
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Right now, I'm more concerned about ghash.io controlling ~40% of the network. As long as people keep overpaying for hash power from cex.io, they can keep expanding their farm at an alarming rate. https://blockchain.info/pools?timespan=24hrsWent to the link... damn, this might get out of hand if the hashrate of ghash.io keeps increasing. |
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I have made alot of posts with the signature, could I get some payment now?
You can only have one signature with PD and people get paid on the 17th for the sig deals, but as the user above said, your posts probably wont count now. I remember some guys quickly switched to that scam just after they had received payment from Stunna... Where are they all now? Weeping over their foolishness and greed and hiding out of shame? They are all coming back here again
I noticed there was an influx of people signing up after Stunna posted the recent giveaway. Maybe they all thought we was getting double for the sig payouts like a few of us did here . Stunna has locked the thread, So no one else can comment, its too much stress on one guy to keep up with a site and forums, plus he takes on customer service himself. What do you mean by locked? See, I can still reply here. |
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I've selling this kind of service for almost 1.5 years now. Like i said, i got the traffic form email,newsletter, PTC, PPC.
I've selling this service at digitalpoint and wht too.
TQ
Quotes, definitely quotes and Google translate. |
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Maybe, but if the mods banned users wouldn't they be those who "have all the power"?
In the moderator policing the forums case, theymos controls who he wants to asign and you can't do crap, in the trust rating situation, theymos asigns who he wants in the DefaultTrust however you can change it to what you want. Besides what kind of idiot doesn't check out all the trust ratings before doing a trade with that person?
The kind of idiots that get scammed on here daily . And the opposite is also abused. A scammer can make a few accounts, give himself feedback from 5 of them so he looks legit, then scams anybody who trusts him. No system is perfect, but putting trust in this trust system is where people fall down as it gives them a false sense of security. Welcome to the jungle. Smart people win, dumb people lose. The system is definitely better than the high probability of turning the centralized system into a tyranny. It doesn't have to be one or the other and especially Tyranny vs Complete Lawless Anarchy where anything goes and every man for himself. A middle ground needs to be achieved (or at least attempted). And that it is. Trust rating system, theymos' DefaultTrust, Scam accusation forums and of course your brain. |
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Maybe, but if the mods banned users wouldn't they be those who "have all the power"?
In the moderator policing the forums case, theymos controls who he wants to asign and you can't do crap, in the trust rating situation, theymos asigns who he wants in the DefaultTrust however you can change it to what you want. Besides what kind of idiot doesn't check out all the trust ratings before doing a trade with that person?
The kind of idiots that get scammed on here daily . And the opposite is also abused. A scammer can make a few accounts, give himself feedback from 5 of them so he looks legit, then scams anybody who trusts him. No system is perfect, but putting trust in this trust system is where people fall down as it gives them a false sense of security. Welcome to the jungle. Smart people win, dumb people lose. The system is definitely better than the high probability of turning the centralized system into a tyranny. |
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Why is this thread still not locked ?
Bloody scammer
Scammer or not, it's for the community to decide and police it. The forum's policy is to monitor the basics such as spam, off-topic threads, not scams. You are right, but I think it's time to change the policy since scams are happening much more often. This is a libertarian forum, thus the policies are libertarian. The current system makes you think rather than blindly depend on authority. |
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I do not use any traffic generation software/or bot.
Do you speak english or just post quotes you look up online?  |
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Exactly right, CPU mining was removed from the client. Even the fastest CPU is completely useless for BTC mining.
Unless you are mining on a public computer, for which you don't pay: neither for the hardware, nor for the software. I would still argue that even if the resources cost you nothing it isn't worth thrashing a public computer to earn .00001 BTC a year. And that's being optimistic Sure if you've got access to 100 of them you might eventually see some tiny fraction but I imagine said public location might notice a power draw spike and get curious. I've got a pretty solid PC at work that I just keep on the bench with a Xeon W3550 that I use for SETI over trying to hash. If you want to work out a CPU I'd recommend folding over hashing. Well it's better than nothing. Besides I don't leave it for the whole day, just for several hours. And using the CPU is the only way there, since the GPU is so shitty the miner doesn't even consider it to be mined on. And I mean even more crappy than Intel integrated graphics. |
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This is a libertarian type forum. The main idea of it's management is the least possible interaction in other's people affairs. So get used to it.
But that doesn't have to mean complete lawlessness. Here where the decentralization aspect comes in - the community should cope with and police it by themselves. True and I agree, but as with 'policing' disputes etc, this also sometimes doesn't work out or isn't enough. Why? Angry mobs usually make sure of punishment. Vigilante mobs also often end up attacking the wrong person. Governments often make mistakes as well and they can "make mistakes" for people who don't like them. True, but again I refer you my post above, but no system is perfect. Well, if no system is perfect then why not leave it without any system like now? its one of best suggestions here we have to leave this without any policy and enjoy this Really? Complete lawlessness? Just people scamming and spamming left right and centre? I'm a Libertarian Socialist (some may say that's Anarchism), but I don't believe in this sort of anarchy. Not complete lawlesness, the community members deal with scammers. That's why the trust rating exists. But the trust system is easily abused. Those who are on the Default Trust have all the power. We could leave each other negative feedback now and it wouldn’t show up as red, yet another 'Trusted' member could leave us bad feedback and then we both look like scammers. We and ten others could leave a blatant scammer feedback and that wouldn't show up unless people actually clicked on his trust, so it's a flawed system. Maybe, but if the mods banned users wouldn't they be those who "have all the power"? In the moderator policing the forums case, theymos controls who he wants to asign and you can't do crap, in the trust rating situation, theymos asigns who he wants in the DefaultTrust however you can change it to what you want. Besides what kind of idiot doesn't check out all the trust ratings before doing a trade with that person? |
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