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Just don't use exchanges/pools/services like banks and you'll be fine (or in worst case only lose a little)
Cryptsy is very out in the open, I would be more concerned about places you know nothing about.
Site is having major growing pains but will pull through, imo
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My vote is on NO. For the most secure network possible, ASICs are needed. Nothing is ASIC proof, changing the PoW is just delaying the inevitable. ASICs will come to Litecoin if they are economically feasible, no matter what PoW is implemented. Not to mention the electricity that will be saved is a good thing for planet Earth!  GPUs are incredibly inefficient compared to ASICs and waste a lot of electricity. If ASIC uses 1% of the electricity as a gpu people will just use 100times as many... saves nothing. now PoS could be a solution to the resources thing. |
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One possibility is just a "minimum change". E.g. changing the number of salsa rounds by a few and tossing an xor between them at some spot or another. It would totally break any fixed function hardware, but would be a 2 LOC for any cpu/gpu miner. I think something like that would be an unfortunate loss of an opportunity, but it would also keep open the possibility of change in the future by avoiding fixed function hardware.
Bitcoin could use a change... Really someone could just come out with a new coin with a changing algo over time to prevent this once and for all. And if we change LTC will just get changed Asics. Also, We would need to make the change soon, before mining voting power is lost. |
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bingo, that's the one.
Good luck!
Is legacy 32 bit? I need 32 bit for XP. 64bit Only. |
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More info for Philosopherstones:
For PHS most miners moved to PoS from PoW very quickly, so the original design of ~9 million PoW coins will not be realized (it will be much much less). With transfers and loss of stakes it is also very unlikely to hit anywhere near 50% in reality. Increased usage of PHS(transactions)would also drastically lower this 50% PoS generation possibility. PoW block rewards also halves every 3 months. Also the messaging can be used to store data in the blockchain, and PoS is an incentive to run PHS nodes.
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Updated Clients https://sourceforge.net/projects/philosopherstone/files/DTC/Datacoin-Qt_HP_Intel.zip - For newer Intel Line (i3i5i7) Datacoin-Qt_HP_Bulldozer.zip For AMD bulldozer, Piledriver,Steamroller. Datacoin-Qt_HP_Core2.zip - Legacy CPU or if the other ones crash on you. If you want to make sure it's working, try out testnet=1 in your .conf file if you would like to test block generation between clients. Solo mining is very difficult now but these can be usable until you switch to pools. Edit Clarity |
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Will post updated bins on the new source in a day or so,.. testing out the updates
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Does it not report the successful share?
It reports like this: [2013-11-30 23:10:22] accepted: 219/220 (99.55%), 713.56 khash/s (yay!!!) thank you, so its not working here, tried x64 and legacy, intel i5 2nd with p2ppool as you described Are you seeing [2013-11-30 23:35:25] Stratum detected new block
[2013-11-30 23:35:43] Stratum detected new block
[2013-11-30 23:35:56] Stratum detected new block Those should go by pretty quick if its working correctly. Try it with http://qrk.coinmine.pl/I put the batch in the files (may need to dl again) to mine with this pool now as it seems to have better latency. Also check your CPU usage.. should be running near 100% with default settings Im using minerd_w32_sse3.exe for my Q6600 and it shows the hashes and speed on every thead, i've created another worker for my laptop which is an i5-2410M 2.4Ghz to try to speed things up (just temporarily, while it's still somewhat minable, I dont wanto damage it). I was planning to leave it for the night and see if I wake up with results, but im only seeing "Stratum detected new block" all the time and nothing else. Is this normal? Why your version of minerd doesn't show speed and hashes? It would be better, it feels like you are doing something, since pool information on the websites is useless since it's always lagged. Btw, about false positives, just always download the stuff from a thrusted source, but most antivirus are throwing miners as trojans these days. On laptops I would recommend using -t x , where x is cores-1 .. or have very good cooling! |
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False + ? Ad-Aware Trojan.Generic.9705038 20131203 Agnitum Riskware.BitCoinMiner!mabHpPndSNc 20131202 AhnLab-V3 20131202 AntiVir TR/BitCoinMiner.Gen 20131203 Antiy-AVL 20131129 Avast Win32:Crypt-OSW [Trj] 20131203 AVG 20131202 Baidu-International Trojan.Win32.Win64.aYo 20131202 BitDefender Trojan.Generic.9705038 20131203 Bkav 20131129 ByteHero 20131127 CAT-QuickHeal 20131202 ClamAV 20131203 Commtouch 20131203 Comodo UnclassifiedMalware 20131203 DrWeb 20131203 Emsisoft Trojan.Generic.9705038 (B) 20131203 ESET-NOD32 a variant of Win64/BitCoinMiner.E 20131202 F-Prot 20131203 F-Secure Trojan.Generic.9705038 20131203 Fortinet W64/BitCoinMiner.E 20131202 GData Trojan.Generic.9705038 20131203 Ikarus Win32.Crypt 20131203 Jiangmin 20131202 K7AntiVirus Trojan ( 004828c81 ) 20131202 K7GW Trojan ( 004828c81 ) 20131202 Kaspersky not-a-virus:RiskTool.Win64.BitCoinMiner.i 20131203 Kingsoft 20130829 Malwarebytes 20131203 McAfee RDN/Generic PUP.x!blp 20131203 McAfee-GW-Edition 20131202 Microsoft 20131203 MicroWorld-eScan Trojan.Generic.9705038 20131203 NANO-Antivirus 20131203 Norman Troj_Generic.QRECX 20131202 nProtect 20131202 Panda Trj/CI.A 20131202 Rising 20131203 Sophos 20131203 SUPERAntiSpyware 20131202 Symantec Bitcoinminer 20131203 TheHacker 20131202 TotalDefense 20131203 TrendMicro TROJ_GEN.R0CBC0OK913 20131203 TrendMicro-HouseCall TROJ_GEN.R0CBC0OIS13 20131203 VBA32 20131202 VIPRE Trojan.Win32.Generic!BT 20131203 ViRobot 20131202 |
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Im still waiting for a reply, this is a pic from qrk.coinmine.pl website:
I've been mining for an hour and on the cmd window there is activity, im at 20kH/s per core and finding new blocks constantly but I have 0.0 QRK. What a scam.
 Even at a slow speed, you should still be getting something Only shortly after when your mining pool has "accepted" a share of work and gives you a "Yay" message, then your KH/s will show up for a short time (5 minutes). Then it will go back to 0.0 Kh/s , until the next time one of the worker threads gets another share of work "accepted". If nothing is accepted then the Kh/s value stays at 0.0 Kh/s. That is what my observation has been for the last 4 days of mining Quark. Also, noticed that with a Dual Core CPU with 2 threads running , it takes quite a long time to get one share of work "accepted". 20Kh/s is quite slow. On my i7 Quade Core laptop I am getting 65Kh/s on 2 threads for total of 200 Kh/s roughly. Also, this is NOT a scam, you just have to get the technicals right. I just bought 600 Quarks today, will buy more as price drops or level out. Question: What type of CPU are you mining on? AMD or Intel ? What model? What type of CPU are you mining on? Ok I got my first QKR mined Now I've added a second worker for my i5 2410M 2.4ghz laptop Im using this Win64 version improved minerd: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=353448.20My question is: 1) How can I know how much work did my computer did vs my laptop? 2) Why the Win64 improved version of minerd on that thread doesn't show speed and hashes on the cmd window like the one im using on win32 for q6600? (minerd_w32_sse3)
I want to know if my laptop is doing something. I only got this: 1/1 accepted (100%) 143kh/s (yay!!!)The rest is constant "stratum detected new block" messages. Been running it for half an hour. How many QRK did I got with that accepted block in theory? because I put a -q flag in the command line which means quiet (remove to see all the hashes and clutter, I prefer to just see shares!) On accepted shares you will see hasrhate or remove -q to see in real time! |
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Just for clarification purposes - new Intel = Haswell only?
I have that version working on both a 3770k and a 4770k, so no. I just used the newest flag for haswell, although reported to me 5%+ faster it's in the margin of error and most likely adds nothing or near it since AVX2 is the only improvement I know of from the lesser build. There is shortcuts to some of the algs in quarkcoin that I have not implemented in release d binary, but they are only about ~15% atm |
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There is indeed a GPU miner but I think it takes a % of your mining, haven't looked at it.
10%. Kinda hard to solo at this point unless you have a lot of GPUs too. Well I heard that GPU miner is solo only, with CPU miner you can just put it on a bunch of cpus and point them all to your own client or use pools. Its still profitable to mine so expect it to keep increasing  |
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There is indeed a GPU miner but I think it takes a % of your mining, haven't looked at it.
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The Athlon II series most definitely supports it, sse2 was introduced in the Athlon 64.
Ya I saw it when I looked it up - the only flag in the legacy version is for sse2 Any luck with it? I've only tested for a bit on vishera (bdver2), which works fine. Still solo mining with gpus though, ~ 75 watts for 2+ mh/s from caymans. Thanks for testing, I also tested the bulldozer one on 8150, 4300, I did test out a piledriver one too.. maybe 10% increase, maybe not. I'm pretty sure you can push 1.5m on a 8350 @ ~125w.. Id love to get some numbers on a 9590 There is some room to do more improvements on the code still. |
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Easy P2pool mining:
1)Run Start_miner.bat
2) If it runs then you simply need to adjust .bat file as follows:
replace QV41kKfw9L6qNr43SNRFci9HzgsxeJf5yh to address you would like your quark sent too.
3) Profit! you will see payments coming into the address you specified in 2.
Example:
Minerd.exe -q -a quark --url 176.221.46.81:8372 -O QV41kKfw9L6qNr43SNRFci9HzgsxeJf5yh:x
Update * added .txt and .bat to archives.
is 176.221.46.81 your pool? that gets super high # of DOA No, that is some p2pool I found...easiest to set up, no account needed, it does pay on time but I recommend http://qrk.coinmine.pl (not p2pool) |
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Does it not report the successful share?
It reports like this: [2013-11-30 23:10:22] accepted: 219/220 (99.55%), 713.56 khash/s (yay!!!) thank you, so its not working here, tried x64 and legacy, intel i5 2nd with p2ppool as you described Are you seeing [2013-11-30 23:35:25] Stratum detected new block
[2013-11-30 23:35:43] Stratum detected new block
[2013-11-30 23:35:56] Stratum detected new block Those should go by pretty quick if its working correctly. Try it with http://qrk.coinmine.pl/I put the batch in the files (may need to dl again) to mine with this pool now as it seems to have better latency. Also check your CPU usage.. should be running near 100% with default settings |
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The Athlon II series most definitely supports it, sse2 was introduced in the Athlon 64.
Ya I saw it when I looked it up - the only flag in the legacy version is for sse2 Any luck with it? |
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Does it not report the successful share?
It reports like this: [2013-11-30 23:10:22] accepted: 219/220 (99.55%), 713.56 khash/s (yay!!!) |
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thanks mate we need to get mining out more to the lower Tech i will Tip as soon as i can - Cryptsy seems semi functional - i have a little Qrk on there my other Qrk is cold -
my only request if o have not done it already is can you post it on our forum - it will be very useful there i might make an actual "mining" section - i'll go look
Cheers.
Yep this miner can get out to everybody,.. not to shabby to make $30+ a day mining on a decent computer using 25 cents in electricity per day either |
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