I believe theymos has mentioned what happens to it somewhere, but broadly speaking it likely just goes into the forum 'pot' to pay for forum expenses like servers and mods etc. However, the forum had millions in reserves years back when the value was sub 10k so I have no idea how much the forum holds now so the forum probably doesn't need the money like theymos has mentioned, but like I said before any money donated could be given to charity and it's a win win as there are multiple benefits to letting people buy a title that comes with the benefits of a higher account. There is a thread somewhere with all the forum treasurers and how much they hold so most of the money is public and a while back theymos did post a list of expenses but I think that was a couple of years ago. The new forum software is still in development but I have no idea what stage it's in, who's doing it or how much it costs. Around 10k per month total is paid to staff. I don't know the exact algorithm used to calculate payments but basically a very active Global mod can get around $1500 a month and a very active patroller or local board mod can get around $500. If you do nothing you'll get nothing. If you do a little you'll get a little.

I don't think it was anything to do with animated avatars specifically, but uploading any avatar, though looking at this post below by theymos it seems it wasn't the reason for the hack anyway:


Unless that's a different hack.


Well, why do people donate to things like crowdfunding? Often there's rewards and benefits and people are suggesting donating will come with the benefits of higher ranks like Senior and Hero etc. Theymos has said in the past that the forum doesn't need any more money, but even if the forum doesn't need the money it could be given to charity or something.

No. I stopped making suggestions because little seems to be done and I didn't want to annoy theymos with constant requests. There are plenty of threads both public and private with a lot of good suggestions so it's just up to whether theymos implements them or not.


I created the Community generated suggestions to improve the forum (+ eventual voting on them) thread a while back: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4893744.0

And theymos did post in there somewhere with his opinions on them. Think they were separated into three categories like yes, no, maybe so you can see where he stands on certain things.



I don't think images would be a big deal and could be one of the benefits of the highest donator tier. I think they were originally removed along with gifs for being too flashy/distracting or something, but signature designs have evolved over the years and many of them can be pretty flashy so I don't think there would be much difference between images and bbcodes really. I think people found a loophole on the avatars as well as some of them are animated.

Don't forget there's a game on tonight. A lot of people miss these Friday evening kick offs and 24 people have yet to make their picks.


Well they're going to be hard to beat given that they've got a 14 point gap against second place United, but don't write Man United off yet (as much as I dislike them). United beating City at home was impressive. They have a game in hand as well. Don't overlook Leicester or Chelsea either in third and fourth place and respectively only one and four points behind second place United. Leicester and City are playing each other early next month as well. If  Leicester can grab the full three points from that it might make things interesting.


Penalties can always happen like they did in this game but I still don't think it should have been one.

Went for a risky 5-0 last night and City got the 5 exactly but I didn't expect Southampton to score. Would have won this round without those two goals.


Yeah, that was a blatant penalty but it's another one of those situations where if the player had gone down and stayed down it likely would have been given and that's why players get rewarded for diving because if you stay up it's never given. VAR should have given that on review though and I'm not sure why they didn't. The Southampton one didn't look like a penalty to me at all. It looks like he just threw himself to the ground and because there was apparently minimal contact of the City player having his hand on their shoulder a penalty is given. All this stuff does is encourage diving.

Two tough games to pick tonight. Both sets of teams might end up cancelling each other out.



Well I was pretty surprised myself. Didn't do great on the others but I'm seeing most didn't back Liverpool or City to lose and at home as well.


Ranieri was sacked. I agree they shouldn't sack him but the culture in football today is to get rid of managers ASAP once they're falling down the table. He's obviously a bigger manager so will likely be given a lot more leeway then say teams facing relegation but how long can this form go on for before the board starts talking?


He'll almost certainly get the Germany job at some point, but yeah, most national team duties tend to be in the twilight years of a managers career.

Yeah, they're risky but most people seem to like backing a winner rather than a stalemate. It just paid off again for me on the Villa/Wolves game as I was the only person to go with a 0-0 which are always the rarest scores to go for I think. Currently leading this round but will probably get overtaken with the game on now. Gone for a narrow 1-0 away win to Leicester but they're currently 1-0 down to Brighton. Only four people have backed the home win. Manchester derby is the game to watch tomorrow I think. Maybe Liverpool/Fulham as well but just to see how they get on as I think it could be a boring one.

Woop, correct score on the first game. Hoping for another good week. Went for a 0-0 on the Sheffield United/Southampton game that's on now and the Saints are up by one but hoping United can claw one back and make it a draw.


I've gone for a Liverpool win but I could totally see a draw here the way they've been playing. If they drop points in that game it's going to be pretty disastrous for them. I wonder how long they can keep it up before Klopp goes. I'm not a fan of clubs sacking mangers after a rut and I don't think they should get rid of him regardless of where they finish in the end but the culture of ditching managers has become pretty toxic. I wonder if there's been any managers other than Ranieri that have won the league then been sacked the season after?

There's an update to the woodcollector saga here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5321663.msg56490105#msg56490105

I'm fairly sure that's our guy. I was going to post it in here but it has names and addresses in it so needs to be Investigations. You should probably shoot him a message on his facebook accounts and see if he's willing to come clean or at least explain some of his behaviour. Doubt he will but it's worth a shot if you're still looking for that other coin  (but I'm almost certain it doesn't exist and it was just some elaborate scam he was pulling).

You can see the table updated by each round if you go to the leaderboard and click the pinkish banner at the top. I just checked. He's remarkably been number one since round 5. He's only won the yellow cap once so I think that's probably proof that consistency is key and slow and steady wins the race. How long can he stay there?  As you said it's pretty close at the top as it usually is but there's quite a gap of 25 points between 1st and 10th place. Doesn't seem like much but you need a couple of exceptional rounds and hope those above you don't.

I didn't get any either. Went with all 0-1 away wins. Conradicals got the first two games scores right though which bumped him up quite a way. I said they would be close games and likely would be draws but the teams were too hard to split for me. Today's three games could be tricky as well. Spurs and Everton should win but away maybe they'll slip up like teasm did yesterday,.


I dunno. Getting two correct scores is decent enough and at 9.5 points it puts you about mid table of this round so better than nothing.

This is silly. It's almost certainly pointless and futile. This is akin to buying a random plot of land and spending a lot of time and effort digging it all up in the hope that you might find some long-lost buried treasure. If you like the phantasy idea of searching for buried treasure that probably isn't going to be there then go ahead but we all know this is going to be a waste of time. Lets say in some bizarre circumstance you do actually manage to restore the drive to it's previous state, the chances of a bitcoin wallet being there are slim to none. And even if you found one then what if you can't crack the password, which you won't be able to if it's a very strong one. And then maybe you do manage to crack the password... What's to say the coins haven't already been spent or there was never any money on there in the first place.

Theymos has said he won't lower the price of those ranks and I think they should be left be as they are, however, I've long been a proponent of adding more titles such as Silver and Gold Memberships that come with the benefits of higher ranks like Full and Hero Member etc. There's multiple benefits to having them in my opinion such as curbing account farming and lessening the market for accounts as people would just buy the title rather than risk buying a dodgy account on the black market. Most people probably struggle to get a high amount of merit these days and the number of people signing up to the forum that will achieve a high rank will probably be very low and will usually only happen to exceptional users so I think paying to skip the queue would be useful in these situations. The higher tier one could maybe allow you to charge your name once as I know that's often something people want. There's plenty of other benefits that could be included as well.

I'm surprised. Didn't really expect to do well this round. I wonder if the points record will be beaten this week. 9.5 points more are needed for us to equal tokeweed's current best of 25 and there's six games left in this megaround.


Today's games could be quite tricky. I think I'll stick to my original plan of narrow away wins but there's gotta be a draw in there I think and the Leicester match is probably the closest to likely happen. I'll wait for the line-ups though as I think Vardy is still playing. If he isn't then I probably would go with a draw.

You have to be able to provide evidence and people should be free to try refute it if they can (and sometimes people do get it wrong or use faulty logic or evidence etc and that's where others can chime in with their opinions or more evidence). Imagine you went to court being accused of something and they didn't show their evidence but just told you you were guilty. That wouldn't fly. If we had a hidden board here it would just be some sort of shady secret court and if someone has done something wrong then it should be exposed and you naturally have to lay out your evidence as part of the process. It should be common sense for most people to not do certain things if they don't want to get caught but that's why it's always going to be cat and mouse and looking for where people slipped up because many do at some point along the way. Criminals know about DNA evidence and other ways they can be tracked but they still leave DNA or get caught on CCTV or triangulated via their self phone of car or whatever but once they do get caught the powers that be still have to prove it even if it exposes their methods which most people should be aware of anyway.


Maybe get them on the case of satoshi?  . If you're smart enough it's probably not that hard to be a ghost here.

I could have sworn I saw superbru refer to them as deferred picks, but default makes more sense.


I got that score right and seem to be on a bit of a roll this round sitting currently in second place only half a point behind Leea-1334. City should easily beat Wolves tonight. The rest of the games are a little bit trickier though and think I might go for mostly away wins. I'm sure there'll be some draws in there though.

I think this just highlights how much people are divided politically, not just here but in the world and both sides will hate each other based on nothing but a slight difference in beliefs. So much animosity and people are still carrying it even though he's gone. The right vs left and the arrogance on both far sides is going to do some real damage in the future.


If I recall correctly Phinnaeus Gage was given a special title of some sort, but then his account magically re-appeared so it was removed, but this highlights the issue of doing things like this. It's going to be very hard to verify that people have passed away, especially when most people here are anonymous or like to keep their personal info to themselves as much as they can. It could be abused in the future as well if all it takes is a person or two to 'confirm' that someone had died but I don't think it should be done unless there's some verifiable proof, but I think it's best to just let accounts be in most cases.

It was looking a bit dicey for a bit there going into the second half at 0-0. Chelsea game is a tough one, especially as they held United to a 0-0 stalemate. Could see the same thing happening there as well. Chelsea haven't lost in their last ten games (in all competitions) and with Liverpool's form still very bad at Afield I don't think I'd back them to win so maybe a draw is the best bet here. There isn't really any exciting games other than that one this week but the next round there's the Manchester derby. Maybe United could take some points away from City but away I don't think they'll manage to grab more than one.

I might watch this game. Could be real trouble if Liverpool don't win but I think they easily should even with all their problems. Sheffield are on back to back losses at Fulham and West Ham and are sitting at the bottom of the table so it's going to have to be a real shit show if they don't come away with all three points here.


It looks like you got a point from the City game though as it looks to be one of your deferred picks:



You're on the leader-board with a point as well. Yesterday was a tricky one and I'm surprised I managed to get 3 points.

I think a lot of people have been sleeping on them including myself for some reason. I didn't realise they've only lost two games but at the same time I don't think they've been playing truly exceptional and maybe it's just because Liverpool have been doing so poorly people have been overlooking them.


I watched the game. Southampton did deserve a goal and the scoreline tells a different story from what actually happened really. That penalty was a dive for sure though. From a couple of angles it looked like a penalty for sure so I'm glad VAR came good on this decision, but they didn't actually show the best angle on VAR which would have been a lot more helpful for the ref to make a decision.


I think we could probably see a new high scorer in this round round, especially with 17 games.