Yeah, it was Anonymint (or at the very least someone pretending to be him). A statement from theymos on why Anonymint is banned from the forum: He has several accounts all banned for ban evasion. It seems that the underlying offense which caused him to initially get into trouble (and often the thing which causes his alts to get noticed) is excessive multi-posting. But when he was warned and/or temporarily banned for this minor thing, he kept evading his bans. This forum cannot operate unless its few rules are followed, so ignoring the warnings and temporary bans that you receive and continuing to do the same stuff is unacceptable. People who do so are not welcome here.
His bans will not automatically expire, and any future alts we see from him will be permabanned. I may manually reconsider his ban if he promises to actually try not to break forum rules. The rules are not meant to silence anyone, but to keep the forum usable and fair. When someone multi-posts excessively, it monopolizes a thread in a way which harms everyone else's ability to communicate. Based on his posts in this thread, I think that he will just continue to break rules if unbanned, so I will not unban him at this time.
bitcointalk.org is not a normal for-profit company. Even if banning iamnotback somehow stopped all future ad revenue, he would still be banned, since his rule-breaking is disrupting the forum's mission of hosting free discussion of Bitcoin and related topics. (As explained above, "free discussion" is not "unmoderated discussion".) Similarly, I would welcome effective competition from decentralized forums, and I would be thrilled to be able to shut down bitcointalk.org in favor of a better-in-all-ways decentralized alternative. But although decentralized forums have existed for a long time (eg. Freenet's FMS is almost exactly what iamnotback keeps describing, and has existed since before Bitcoin), they have unfortunately not been widely used since the era of the semi-decentralized Usenet system, mainly due to vastly inferior usability.
tl;dr he refused to follow the forum's rules, got temp banned several times, ban evaded and continued breaking the rules, got permabanned and continues creating new accounts and ban evading. For anyone still not aware of the roller coaster that is the Anonymint general discussion thread, feel free to check it out: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1887077.0. |
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<...> If they make sense on their own, the users are free to fetch them from the deletion PMs, edit them and repost them.
The users can’t retrieve their posts from the threads where @anunymint wrote the first post in the thread, because you acknowledged up-thread that users do not receive notifications of deletions when a moderator nukes an entire thread. Rather users only receive notifications (and copies) of deletions when only individual posts are deleted from a thread, not when the entire thread has been nuked. You admitted this up-thread and now you contradic kT yourself. <...> While I was referring to deletion of posts in non-anunymint threads, yeah, you're right on the anunymint thread posts. If they had posted any substantial content that could stand on it's own with a bit of editing, they're free to ping me via PM and I'll send over the BB code. |
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If it matches the "low effort task" definition (outlined here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3953664.0) then yes. In this case, they not only incentivised posting via low effort tasks but also incentivized posting in their (now trashed) ANN thread. How do you prefer them to be reported? Reporting one post at a time through the report button takes me a lot of time, and feels boring enough to quickly give up. Barely any of them use a "normal" forum name, most look like they're generated by bots. And bots won't care about temp bans. I can report them, but if a report just leads to that one post being deleted, it doesn't seem worth the effort. If they get nuked, at least that account won't do it again. In the past 5.5 days, 3194 Newbies have posted "#join". In the past 15 hours, there were "only" 248 Newbies who posted "#join": -data snip- Generally just reporting the giveaway itself is enough. Also, posting "#join" in itself is not bad - plenty of threads use the "#join" format for applying to non-low effort tasks (e.g. signature campaigns). |
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Anonymint's still banned.
While wiping over a dozen pages of posts may have been difficult in the past, I've since written up a few scripts to assist me in this task. As for the replies, again, in most cases if a post a user was replying to was deleted, said reply would either be deleted or edited to remove the now deleted content.
you realize that running those scripts has probably done more damage to others than to him, right? They participated in valuable discussions. And you decide to delete their posts as well? It's even worse than useless because it destroys value. Perhaps you could try and write some useful scripts in the future? Any posts made while one of your accounts is banned is considered ban evasion. If a user gets banned, creates a new account and continues posting (a.k.a. ban evading), I will ban his account and in most cases wipe any posts made during the ban.
Besides, you can't really ban him anyway. The discussions with Anonymint's alts were never meant to take place as per the forum's rules. As for the replies, I've already outlined why they were deleted. If they make sense on their own, the users are free to fetch them from the deletion PMs, edit them and repost them. As for not being able to stop him, I'll quote what I've said previously: Try to stop me if you can.  You can't. When it comes to this forum, we'll sure as hell try.
What forum rules have I broken? As for the auction extension, you are free to discuss that where it's on-topic - the split thread linked in the Trust feedback. I and many others have expressed their position on the situation so nothing's stopping you from doing the same. |
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Just to be clear, is encouraging this type of 'join' message allowed? I've seen it all over and it is always followed by loads of spam while serving no purpose. 5. Post a message in the bounty thread with the following information: #JOIN
Telegram campaign
Telegram url: https://t.me/username
If it matches the "low effort task" definition (outlined here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3953664.0) then yes. In this case, they not only incentivised posting via low effort tasks but also incentivized posting in their (now trashed) ANN thread. |
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Trashed and issued temp bans for all of them, thanks for the heads up.
The "no altcoin giveaways" rule is more elaborated upon in the stickied threads in Bounties (Altcoins) as well as the ANN sections. Also, if you want to report an on-forum altcoin giveaway, the best way to do so would be via the "Report to Moderator" link on the bottom right side of the page.
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