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661  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Article: Bitcoin lead in price by Litecoin on: January 04, 2014, 07:14:07 AM
Thats cool and all, but its just trading. Its not public awareness or actual usage. Litecoin requires Bitcoin to succeed, its positively mandatory.

Only Bitcoin can bring crypto to the masses. Once that happens, its anyones game but the first huge wave has to be led by the mighty BTC.

And I say this as a bigtime Litecoin guy - my crypto portfolio as denominated in USD is 80% LTC and 19% BTC.

If you really believe in Litecoin - push hard for Bitcoin to be accepted at your favorite stores and service providers.
662  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Winner and loosers in the rise of Bitcoin on: January 04, 2014, 07:06:51 AM
Any business that has low margins will benefit hugely, as credit card fraud/chargebacks are very detrimental to them, as well as the high fees charged by credit card companies.

Great companies like www.overstock.com will be big winners and indeed, credit card companies big losers as their "business" slowly evaporates.
663  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Chargebacks on: January 04, 2014, 06:48:32 AM


So lets then assume consumers aren't willing to?  Where does that leave the proposition that Bitcoin use will become widespread common currency?  I agree with the OP, chargeback is an advantage of Bitcoin that only benefits seller and as most people are buyers, the advantage is overstated.


No, the advantage is clear and huge. Chargebacks are the main vector of credit card fraud and probably the biggest source of all fraud in the world.

This leads to higher prices for goods and services which are passed directly to the consumer.

By eliminating these excessive fees, Bitcoin allows businesses to operate with much lower margins which has a massive benefit to everyone.

Furthermore, credit cards as they exist today are simply exploitive of the 99%. I own a couple simply for credit score purposes.

If you cant afford to buy something or cant be sure you trust the company you are buying from, you shouldnt be buying the product at all. Period.
664  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: All Bitcoins are marked on: January 04, 2014, 06:40:24 AM
Bitcoin uses a less than .01% of the energy used by banks and payment processors and the people and systems they employ.

This has been discussed numerous times. Its a massive gain in energy efficiency, not a loss. Reconsider all your assumptions.

And use the search function first. This has been discussed to death here.
665  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How does the NSA revelation effect bitcoin? Quantumcopper? >NOT QUANTUM COMPUTER on: January 04, 2014, 06:36:45 AM
well I agree its a must watch video, although Im not scared for my coins, at all
666  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Anyone Have 6950 or 6970 card? on: January 04, 2014, 06:01:23 AM
depends on the card, I get anywhere from 430-485 depending on brand for 6950s

they run hot and not great efficiency compared to r9 series
667  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Scryptpools money trail on: January 04, 2014, 05:39:41 AM
Its obviously super shady, but Im not exactly sure how this constitutes a crime. Just fools being separated from their "fake internet meme-money"

kinda hope this leads to the death of dogecoin
668  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The Litecoin Boat has not Sailed Yet... on: January 04, 2014, 05:28:38 AM


All I am saying is that the LTC boat has not sailed yet, and you can still get on.
Its just gonna cost you a little more.  Like when you could of gotten bitcoin for $25 not too long ago...  

LTC hitting $50-$100 range by mid to late 2014, that's my conservative guess.


Well I agree with you here, but sadly theisalt-forum is mostly used for spamming pump and dumps and I doubt this thread will float at the top for long. Most people who want to talk about LTC moved over to https://litecointalk.org/ during the Spring/Summer of 2013.

Very few if any alts have truly improved on Litecoin, most are just a fork of it with simplistic changes (see FTC etc).

With Litecoin, you get the real deal, a scrypt coin with a big market cap which has huge potential to go up and has talented, long term commited devs. There is a real market to spend them as they are already well known. Litecoin isnt going anywhere but up, and there are very, very few coins you can really say that about.

Sure, you could maybe make a few extra bucks trying one of these shamcoins going for a 100x profit in a month, or you could lose your entire investment in a matter of hours while you are asleep. With Litecoin, you have the real deal and can sleep easy knowing that good devs are behind it and its not going anywhere anytime soon.
669  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Chinese people are crazy to buy NET, netcoin. They think NET is the third coin. on: January 04, 2014, 05:08:50 AM
I wont ever support this coin, for a variety of reasons (mostly because its shit), but if you do the research, there was clearly a groundwork laid for a the "real netcoin" which was envisioned by tacotime, cunicula and other super talented devs who are passionate about crypto and not just making a few quick bucks. Whether this dev saw an opportunity to cash in or it was "just a coincidence" that his coin launched with the exact name the community had a set aside for what will eventually be one of the most innovative coins ever, I wont speculate on.

But my advice to people is to deeply research any alt - and who, how, when where and why it was developed - before you throw even a nickel at it. Sure making money is great, just make sure you dont get caught holding the bag and dont be surprised if you do when you deal with 95%+ of the alts currently out there.

After this post, I expect this thread to die off fairly quickly, for fairly obvious reasons...
670  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Wheres the best place to sell btc for usd$ that withdrawals to my bank account? on: December 29, 2013, 01:27:30 PM
take the time to get verified with coinbase, worth it
671  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow announces 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.49/Ghash on: December 29, 2013, 01:17:46 PM
Wow if this thread has proven anything its that banks are a giant pain to deal with and not very effective at transferring money quickly and cheaply.

If only there was another solution...
672  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Cooling your mining operation on: December 29, 2013, 01:10:42 PM
Once you start factoring in the power too cool the operation during the summer, datacenter pricing looks pretty affordable.
673  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Solution for system freezing during mining on: December 29, 2013, 01:08:36 PM
Some pools will email you if a worker goes offline or is submitting stales
674  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: no to zerocoin on: December 29, 2013, 12:40:50 PM
Zerocoin is very cool but not as an extension to Bitcoin. It needs to be its own currency.

There will be a time for Zerocoin (and Litecoin, and Peercoin, Primecoin and a few other alts which really innovate).

But that time is far in the future, not right now. Circle will make it much easier for people to use/accept BTC, it will spread mass adoption.

Once we are there, we can think about improvement and alternatives. But for crypto to succeed, BTC needs to go first - just the way it is.
675  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why I don't listen to Paul Krugman, or anyone that says the Internet is a Bubble on: December 29, 2013, 12:36:37 PM
I respect Krugman but disagree with him entirely on this point, and the link to Stross' blog just highlights how weak this argument is.
676  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Scrypt ASICs - Likely coming soon or (finger crossed) not? on: December 28, 2013, 05:42:59 AM
Im pretty sure this thread will get locked or moved, as this forum is for Bitcoin mining  Undecided

That being said, GPU mining isnt going anywhere anytime soon for scrypt, and any scrypt-ASIC wont offer the near efficiency gain of SHA256 ASIC.
677  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: HELP! struggling to make 6 gpu R9 290 rig to run on windows 7 on: December 28, 2013, 05:40:28 AM
Wow, thats brutal. I would think you should sort all issues and have a rock solid build before cloning it with $5K in cards
678  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Has anyone ever reached 1pt/s mining/ on: December 27, 2013, 05:00:07 PM
different kinda petahash bro sorry for the bad news  Sad
679  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What can I do with this information? on: December 27, 2013, 04:45:32 PM
you can probably play Duke Nukem on it. Bitcoin mining, not so much.
680  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Bitcoin-mining by botnets (updated paper link) on: December 27, 2013, 11:53:57 AM
I think they go for primecoins these days cause botnets are CPU mining I would think
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