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681  Economy / Speculation / Re: How much Bitcoin to accumulate now to be financially set after the next boom? on: August 15, 2019, 09:10:19 PM
Hold, like - don't even think about selling for crashing fiat. That's the end game.

Exactly, this. Unlike investing in most other asset classes, with bitcoin (if you take the loooonnnngggg view) you don't have to have an exit strategy. But you do have to have a "hold on for dear life" strategy because the ups and downs will test a lot of people.
682  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Ethereum 32 eth - does it matter? on: August 15, 2019, 09:06:47 PM
Vitalik Buterin said that staking will you earn around 5 percent annually.
Is that enough? When I calculate with 2% inflation, then it is not enough to motivate me.  Roll Eyes

I agree, plus with the penalty if your machine is hacked and used in a block attack means you'd lose your whole stake. I need to hear more about what the final upgrade looks like but so far I'm not motivated to stake.
683  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is Ethereum getting old? on: August 15, 2019, 08:48:14 PM
More people are using Eth than ever before, for its intended use as a platform for decentralized applications. The ICO thing was always a distraction.
684  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 15, 2019, 08:38:41 PM
Observing $10,249

Bottomed out at $9,5xx this morning?

And now $10,330

Forget about the morning 🤪

That makes sense, my auto-buy doesn't happen until tomorrow morning, so I'm guessing we'll be >$13k by then.
685  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do or Die for ETH on: August 15, 2019, 08:28:48 PM
Unlimited supply is the big drawback that ethereum has

People always say this but it simply isn't true. The supply growth goes towards zero asymptotically and will because of that eventually become deflationary. It functionally has a supply limit, just not a preprogrammed scalar cap value. These are basic things people should know before they invest.
686  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What your family thinks about that you into crypto on: August 15, 2019, 08:22:09 PM
Show them this article...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/matthougan/2019/08/15/how-to-understand-bitcoin-if-youre-over-40/#733ecac647a5
687  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 15, 2019, 08:19:59 PM
Not that anyone here necessarily needs to read this article but you have friends and relatives that do, and it's a fun bullish as hell read...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/matthougan/2019/08/15/how-to-understand-bitcoin-if-youre-over-40/#733ecac647a5
688  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 15, 2019, 06:56:30 PM
Hong Kong Activist Leader Calls For A Run On Chinese Banks Tomorrow
The shit is hitting the fucking fan. That's what happening in HK.
Tomorrow will be a good day.
This should be interesting, but won't the state run banks just close? China is a dictatorship at the end of the day no matter how they try to wrap it.

I'd tend to agree but it will be interesting to watch.
689  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 15, 2019, 06:55:12 PM

Here is a good article explaining the protests:  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/13/what-do-the-hong-kong-protesters-want

I remember the fall of the Soviet Union.  

It is possible that Hong Kong will be the spark that tips over the Chinese Communist Party. Especially if the protests spread to Taiwan and Macau. 

China is not in the same situation as Soviet Russia was economically or politically based on my very cursory and casual reading of the news, I'd be very surprised if China doesn't get a handle on this. I'll go read that article, thanks for sharing.

How do you know in what situation they are?
Getting handle on this?
I am surprised that US is not supporting Hk all the way.
What happened to pro-democracy stance?


I don't think the end of the Soviet Union has a lot of parallels with the current HK crisis. China is not a bankrupt oligarchy with a large unhappy population. The US should support HK's pro democracy push, but I seriously doubt this will be the spark that brings down Communist China.
690  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 15, 2019, 06:04:30 PM


I really had no clue this shit had gotten so bad, i was under the impression china had a hands off policy on HK. Apparently thats bullshit and after alot of googling and watching youtube vids I still have no clue whats going on there. I thought HK was the Golden Goose, is china trying to kill it?


Seriously if anyone can explain wtf is going on or link something that doesn't take a day of research to wade through that will sum up what the deal is, post it please.

Hong Kong Activist Leader Calls For A Run On Chinese Banks Tomorrow

The shit is hitting the fucking fan. That's what happening in HK.

Tomorrow will be a good day.


Here is a good article explaining the protests:  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/13/what-do-the-hong-kong-protesters-want

I remember the fall of the Soviet Union.  

It is possible that Hong Kong will be the spark that tips over the Chinese Communist Party. Especially if the protests spread to Taiwan and Macau. 

China is not in the same situation as Soviet Russia was economically or politically based on my very cursory and casual reading of the news, I'd be very surprised if China doesn't get a handle on this. I'll go read that article, thanks for sharing.
691  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin vs Gold? Which one you would choose to invest for long term? Why ? on: August 15, 2019, 02:58:12 PM
Bitcoin has more utility value in a technologically oriented world & its value will continue to grow as economies become more digitised. Gold on the other hand has been used for thousands of years as a proven asset & is not dependent on the internet, thus harder to regulate by the government, if they decide to do so.

I would argue that gold is very easy for gov't to regulate. There is ample history showing this.
692  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 15, 2019, 02:49:59 PM
It can stay like this for years as far as I'm concerned. I'll DCA all the way.


News...
https://cointelegraph.com/news/time-for-plan-says-vaneck-exec-as-negative-yield-bonds-hit-27

I think this is nothing more than a blip...
https://cointelegraph.com/news/3b-ponzi-scheme-is-now-allegedly-dumping-bitcoin-by-the-hundreds

Given how China has captured the core group behind the scheme, and China's law enforcement history I'm expecting they'll get death.
693  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 14, 2019, 07:45:31 PM
694  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Betting : A big problem to crypto? on: August 14, 2019, 04:12:54 PM
I don't know, but I will point out that this very site, the largest discussion group of crypto in the world has a very large percentage of people discussing gambling all the time, it has its own section. And I've noticed a LOT of people here confuse gambling with investing. So it wouldn't surprise me but 60% seems awfully high.

•Investing and gambling both involve risking capital in the hopes of making a profit.
•In both gambling and investing, a key principle is to minimize risk while maximizing reward.
•Gamblers have fewer ways to mitigate losses than investors do.
•Investors have more sources of relevant information than gamblers do.
Over time, the odds will be in your favor as an investor and not in your favor as a gambler.
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/basics/09/compare-investing-gambling.asp
695  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What your family thinks about that you into crypto on: August 14, 2019, 04:06:55 PM
They believed more when the rally of 2017 was happening than they do now.

696  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / exchanges on: August 14, 2019, 03:28:03 PM
You might want to try to get on Unnamed exchange.   A lot of older coins have gotten free listings there.  It's hard to want to invest or stake a coin that just has one listing.   There are also other exchanges that might like Hodl for free.

It's already there. See updated 1st post...

Exchange

Coinexchange - https://www.coinexchange.io/market/HODL/BTC
Unnamed Exchange - https://www.unnamed.exchange/Exchange/Basic?market=HODL_DOGE
Unnamed Exchange - https://www.unnamed.exchange/Exchange/Basic?market=HODL_BTC
Unnamed Exchange - https://www.unnamed.exchange/Exchange/Basic?market=HODL_LTC

Yobit - Warning: Do not trade HODL on Yobit - You will be unable to withdraw HODL, and they may be illiquid
We're currently looking for a HODL/BCH pair. Message freetrade if you can help.
697  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 14, 2019, 02:15:16 PM
Dominos are starting to fall. Maybe next step we'll hear about player contracts negotiated in bitcoin.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/dallas-mavericks-become-second-nba-team-to-accept-bitcoin
698  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 12, 2019, 02:07:01 PM
Really don't care if someone wants to waste time tracking my addresses. All my shit is above board, it's not any more of a threat than having a bank account is.

I hear ya, but otoh if someone has your personal info and your addresses it makes it just that more likely you'll be hacked. Ain't no one got time for that. With a bank account you have the supposed protection of the insurance and institutional safeguards. With your own accounts it's just you doing security. Criminals go after the easy targets.
699  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gov'ts and Institutions buying up Bitcoin on: August 10, 2019, 06:57:19 PM
It's not just "buying" on the open market. It's also espionage and theft.
https://www.coindesk.com/north-korea-stole-2-billion-in-crypto-and-fiat-to-fund-weapons-programs

700  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 10, 2019, 06:50:23 PM
One time this security guard warned me against drinking GSM gin, he said sometimes people literally don't wake up the next day after drinking it, but I'm still here, so...


I only drink the finest Dominican Republic brewed methanol.

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