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681  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Are new altcoins being too risky? Current market trend on: November 23, 2023, 05:42:34 AM
I am active again after a while and a lot has changed but the apathy of tier two altcoins remains same and it's absolute sham because most of the tier two altcoins have hit rockbottom and to a point of no return and some trusted coins like LUNA, FTX, Celsius, and BlockFI etc where people have lost their life long savings and on the other hand we have tokens like Solano, XRP, XLM, BNB, ADA and Matic who are heading on path of recovery. It's clear that you go with top altcoins (even this involves risk like fate of LUNA, FTX, etc) though there are slight risk of losing but probability of losing everything is even more in other altcoins whose prices are dipped within few seconds after their launch. It's better to invest in established coins rather than newbies.

Please share your opinion.
you have your own opinion in which I believe valid so why need so many answers when it is clear that even you have gone for years the market stays the same that New project cost you big amount of risks than investing in older and proven projects like top 50 currencies(though it does not assure us a gain yet there is a bigger protection than new one)
Of course they are risky. We know the traumas on Altcoins in the past, FTX, LUNA, these have created big crises in the crypto market. Coins such as BNB, ETH, or the coins you mentioned, which we know as solid altcoins, are going through the recovery process, of course, depending on bitcoin. When the market trend reoccurs, I can say that I am hopeful for alt coins, but even solid coins are just as risky.

I agree with you, therefore if we want to invest to avoid big risks, then we can just invest in Bitcoin, but if you really want to invest in cryptocurrency without being afraid of big risks, then you can invest in altcoin, because investing in altcoin can give us a bigger profits than investing in Bitcoin, but of course the risk of investing in altcoin is bigger than investing in Bitcoin, but my suggestion it's better for you to invest in the top 10 altcoin on coinmarketcap (safer than other altcoin).
try not to  bring Bitcoin in altcoin discussion because that make no sense at all .
of course bitcoin is the safest but this is about altcoins that if you pay attention you will see that people here are asking for option to other coins than mentioned and aside fromm BTC.
682  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe in psychic betting? on: November 23, 2023, 04:36:42 AM
I don't want to believe it, but people around my city generally gamble through dreams, accidents, etc., usually they bet on 4 numbers in what they call "TOGEL". They will match their dreams with a book containing numbers, for example someone sees a car accident and in the book the car is represented with the number 55, and then they will bet on that number. Many people have succeeded in getting the jackpot of their dreams and usually the capital they put in is quite small. But until now I still find it difficult to accept this, because it doesn't make sense to get the jackpot from a dream.
I grow with those kind of stuffs happening in our community , there aer lots of belief and talk about those dream number combinations and yes they are putting money to bet for those numbers believing that it is God's way to let them win and become richer.as a young boy I also believe in those that people around me with superstition about how they can be an instant millionaire .
but this is how the gambling goes , there are lot of points to consider .
and yes I don't believe in psychic gambling.
683  Economy / Gambling / Re: YoCa.sh Multichain Casino | No Deposits, Decentralized, No Kyc, Instant Payouts on: November 23, 2023, 03:48:06 AM




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sounds cool mate , looks like I have something to partake now with good amount to win with high chances as there is 10 to be winning and not limited into 3 .

also 1 month duration is more than enough to gather more players/participants so good job.

But wait , looks like OP is different account , so you are both part of the team for Bitcointalk forum?

anyway Will be joining this for sure and yes have some  extra funds to gambling for YoCa.sh casino .
684  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Buy more ETH..... on: November 22, 2023, 12:34:54 PM
I think I have heard the advice to buy ETH dozens of times and have been given it many times. But, that's okay because that's the reality. However, ETH is still in second place after BTC even though you say it will shake up the world trading market capitalization. So keep accumulating if you have enough funds and learn to survive for maximum results.
You heard many times? advises and also  have given many times, what does it mean mate ? have you invested many times
but fails then you are doing it wrongly so beter to act accordingly and but Ethereum to Hold not to use as daytrading tools.
 sorry to say but you are not truly buying to trust but just to gain so you are not ready when market sideways .
Talking about ETH, there is no doubt that the price will always improve over time.  Anyone can own eth if they want multiple profits in the future..
Just listen when Bitcoin is ready to Bull because for sure Ethereum will follow and that is what happened many times before.
and improving over time is indeed what great altcoin does over the years so trust ethereum to stay in your wallet longer than how
you hold bitcoin.
685  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: November 22, 2023, 11:57:35 AM
That's why scam accusation threads  on this forum have instant reaction. Sportsbet.io, one of the most famous sportsbook company had negative trust at first because they refused to pay to one of their users but over time they understood the importance of trust here, returned and become one of the most trusted sportsbook in crypto world, we can tell the same about betcoin.ag too.
This forum matters a lot!

This forum is great place to advertise their crypto casinos and gain lot of gamblers as community is active and ask for good suggestions to play upon on forum so they give more importance to any issue arising on the forum but only the genuine ones as there are lot of fake scam accusations as well just trying to defame any casinos.So Roobet has maintained their reputation well on forum for years.
Let go of those fake accusation because mostly those are from cheaters that had been caught and cannot claim their said winning or those abusers that believe to exercise their way of making issues for a chance to have settlement from the site they are trying to harass .
Roobet on the other hand have resolved all legit issues thrown towards the site so there are small chance to be a victim of this fake accusations .
686  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: November 22, 2023, 05:16:29 AM
After the assassination of one of the founders of 1xbet, the situation has changed across all 1x platforms. They have tightened procedures even further. For instance, Mostbet has introduced video calls for KYC verification. 1xbit has begun closing accounts without refunding the deposited amount, and Coinplay has implemented KYC procedures. As a result, all security departments are now centrally managed. Others, like Melbet, 22bet, Betandyou, operate under franchise names
what is new about 1xbet locking account without refunding the deposit amount ? this is also the reason why people tried to connect them to 1xbit because of their similar activities and how to scam their players.
also about KYC verification that we cannot questioned because each site has the right to ask those verification if needed (though mostly being asked when need to withdraw but not when depositing things that I see being part of their way of scamming players)
but best is never engage towards those sites so you'll not become a victim when time comes you need to withdraw.
687  Local / Altcoins (Pilipinas) / Re: Globe at Smart papasok sa mundo ng NFT? on: November 22, 2023, 05:02:04 AM
Globe at Smart ginulat ang mundo? LOL, Kai Sotto at YouTuber content reference lang mga kabayan.

Sa tingin nyo maganda kayang planong to ng giant telcos na sumali sa mundo ng NFT? o sadyang huli na ang pag adopt nila since marami nang tao umaayaw sa NFT's dahil sa dami ng scams na naganap dito?.
Magandang ideya yan pero hindi ba parang late na sila? Kung ako sa kanila ang gawin nila ay mag accept ng payments sa bills nila gamit ang Bitcoin at iba pang mga referred nilang cryptocurrencies. Kasi baka sakali doon pa mas maraming matuwang mga Pilipino. Pero kung NFT lang naman, tapos na tayong karamihan diyan. At bakit parang delay ang pag adopt nila? Dapat noong mga panahong sobrang lakas pa ng mga NFTs.
Correct mate , kung sanay nung pandemic nila nilabas to eh baka madami pang pinoy na sumakay pero sa ngayon? parang alanganin na ang pagsabak nila dahil mga investors mismo eh dumidistansya na sa mga NFT projects so I'm afraid na magiging malaki ang impact nito sa atin.
tsaka ganon na din ang sanay gawin nila ang mag adopt ng cryptocurrency sa payment system nila kasi tulad nating maraming gumagamit ng serbisyo nila , halos lahat ng pinoy kahit isa man ay user nila , mapa smart or Globe kaya adopting crypto as payment will be their best action to be in crypto .
688  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Paraan para umunlad ang Buhay pinansyal on: November 22, 2023, 04:00:13 AM
Pasok ako dito sa investment kasi nag-invest ako ng oras at effort para kumita through signature campaigns. Since isa akong volunteer na law enforcer isa lang ibig sabihin nyan kundi allowance lang natatanggap ko monthly kaya malaking tulong itong forum na to sa akin at sa aking pamilya dahil time at effort lang ang puhonan ko para kumita at matuto dito.

Ang second choice ko if ever na magkaroon ako ng sapat na pera ay ang real estate dahil nag-aappreciate ang price ng property habang tumatagal. Lalo na dito sa probinsya na mababa pa ang presyo ng lupa.

Collectible silver at gold coins ang isa din sa gusto kong pag-investan kung sakali man in the near future. Alam naman natin na ang value ng gold at silver ay pataas din ng pataas kaya maganda din itong bilhin sa ngayon habang medyo may kababaan pa ang presyo.

Kung papalarin ka kabayan maganda yang real estate investment kasi talagang yung value of lupa eh tumataas sa ngayon mababa pa pag pinasukan na yung lugar ng mga establishments or mga pabahay dyan na yan magsisimulang magtaas ng value, kung meron ka talagang pera at kaya mong spare para sa long term hold pasukin mo yang plano mo.
isa sa mga pinaka mataas na pwede pagkakitaan ay real estate lalo na pag maganda ang ang lugar na napag investan mo kasi kung sa bandang luzon eh malamang na kikita ka talaga ng maganda at malaki.

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tutal nandito ka naman na sa pagccrypto lagay ka din ng investment kung sakaling wala ka pa ha, pero malamang sa malamang meron ka nyan kasi una nga ung crypto dapat sa listahan dahil sa malikot na galawan at sa malaking opotunidad na maka earn ng malaki laki.
extra income nalang siguro itong tinatanong nya , malamang matagal na din sya sa forum eh sure na may investment na sya sa crypto currency and malamang sa Bitcoin at malamang din naka diversify na sya.
689  Economy / Gambling / Re: what are the best crypto casinos! on: November 21, 2023, 04:48:29 AM
1 year ago when I was earning money from PTC sites, there were lot of ads were of bc game so I regularly used to click on those ads and get paid on ptc site.
unfortunately one day google auto logged in, with different google account, And  I didn't deposited anything in that different account.
the software detected same ip with two different account then their system blocked me automatically. I am not too worried about my account got blocked but I am unhappy with them because They took my balance and blocked me, they didn't refunded my balance. many members may know how hard it is to earn something from paid to click sites. and they took my hard earned money.

From your experience, you can see that this is not your own fault as well but we can also see that it's not their own fault either, so who is to receive the blame, knowing that the mistake comes from you,
Who can tell whos mistake it is? unless it will be provided with complete proof and also both sides must comply but the problem is that nowadays it is hard to prove till now.
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i have this similar issue with some of the gamblers who will always complained about being blocked by some of these casinos for now reason,
What ? you have issue with them? why do you care? are you the one who are they suing ? if not then never do this as your problem lol.
let them complain you will not earn from it  Grin Grin Grin
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not knowing that they were the ones at fault in the first place, they make detection of IP addresses on each accou together with other similar security measures stated already on their policies.
IP detection sometimes may be wrong because in some part of the world specially in 3rd world countries , sometimes using same IP for how many people and while they are different users yet they are being blame having same IP address.
690  Local / Pamilihan / Re: Poloniex nhack ilang araw na ang nakalipas on: November 21, 2023, 03:49:24 AM
This is actually my main exchange before, pero simula nung nabago yung system nila at maagang nagimplement ay umalis na ako at buti nalang kase na hacked den sila before at ito naulit na ulit.

Mukhang hinde safe ang kanilang exchange or may inside job talaga na nangyare dito, isa ito sa mga dahilan kaya bakit hinde maganda maghold ng kahit anong crypto sa mga exchanges kase kahit anong oras pwede ito mangyare sa kanila.
Ilang beses na sila na hacked tingin ko nasira na ng tuluyan ang kanilang reputasyon , yong ma hack ka ng isang beses eh OK lang eh pero yong naulit pa? considering na isa sila sa pinaka matagal na Exchange sa crypto world?
this proves only one thing na hindi nila ganon pinapahalagahan ang kanilang security at ang kanilang mga users.
Isang beses lang ako sumubok gumamit ng Poloniex pero nadala agad ako sa sobrang taas ng Minimum withdrawal at ganon na din ang fee, from there never kona sila ginamit at denelete kona ang Apps nila sa Mobile ko.
691  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Ano ang gagawin mo sa sitwasyon na ito? on: November 21, 2023, 02:42:11 AM
Hacker yon e, matalino rin iyon syempre. Before sya manghack, alam nya na yung pinapasok nya at magiging risk non kya tingin ko, hindi sya aaggree sa offer. Iririsk all nya na yan, kaysa sumuko. Ganon rin naman ang ending non kung totoo mang kilala na sya, marereveal identity nya.
Kahit alam nya ang gagawin nya pero darating din ang point na alam na nya kung san sya maiipit at mapapahamak so tingin ko sa laki ng offer at magkakaton ng pirmahan eh malamang ibigay na nya.
10 million dollars? hindi na nya makakayang ubusin sa lifetime yon Unless maging sugarol sya at ipatalo sa casino ang pera, pero kung normal living lang? kahit dalawang salin lahi nya eh mabubuhay na sa halagang yan.
692  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is this a good advice? on: November 21, 2023, 01:38:21 AM
I keep seeing gamblers advising themselves that you are one step closer to winning the jackpot when you quit too early,  it's sad that they strongly believe this.

Is this true?
It is the most stupid Word you will be believing from other gamblers.

Imagine you are so close then why did not happened? because you are not destined to have that in Life.
Gambling sometimes is about destination and not just something that will always happen.
sad but reality that this is not true and only a term used By addicted gamblers so they will have something in common and that is being loser all their life.

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This advice is actually making gamblers believe that they can win when they spend a lot of more time in the casino, they strongly believe that not stopping or taking break will bring them closer to their jackpot.

One of em told me that this is why I don't win, that I only gamble when I feel like, he said constantly gambling is a must if you want to win, but I disagree, because I have seen too many people not knowing when to quit until it was too late.

To me, gambling is a theater, a form of entertainment that I pay for, not a way to get rich quick, for them it's a must to win by force, one question seem to change his mood though.

I asked him why he isn't rich yet if he is actively gambling everytime since all this while, this changed his mood and I took a turn.


Stand for what you believe and understand mate , listen to no one but yourself , because remember that your money is at stake and not theirs.

you have a good gambling attitude so better to continue as that.
693  Economy / Gambling / Re: Duelbits.com | Casino & Sportsbook | VIP | Instant withdrawals!|ARGENTINA & AVFC on: November 21, 2023, 12:36:50 AM
Generous casino like Duelbits , Roobet and Rollbit is something that we must be Glad as gambler because they kept bringing this generosity to the next level.
and also this is why I never lose faith in this site for couple of years now.
I agree about Duelbits and Roobet which have a proven track record over a long period of time, but I don't agree about Rollbit since the scam accusations against them have been rising steadily in recent history.

They are harassing some of their customers with messed up KYC verification processes and their team has confirmed that recently.
Sorry but I am not following the cases , if that brings confusion then sorry mate But for my experiences on those sites? never that I encountered even small problem so I will stand on my comment that they are the 3 most and best crypto gambling site for me (though i respect your stand guys)
So, the fact that Rollbit has some scam accusation against them does not necessarily mean that they can't be trusted, and concerning kyc, it will be good for us to understand that every gambling casino has their own unique kyc rules, and this rules may be seen or understood differently by different customers, this does not mean that their kyc system is messed up, or that they use it to harass customers, it might just be that the customer is failing to follow their kyc rules which is what is causing problems for the customer.
Did you even read about how Rollbit harassed their customers recently using KYC? They asked them to actually login to their Binance accounts and show the transfer via video call.

You must be out of your mind if you are defending this sort of nonsensical crap frankly speaking.
Maybe the other member is correct mate , lets talk about Rollbit in their Thread or in those accusation threads and not here because we are being off topic guys.
694  Economy / Gambling / Re: Duelbits.com | Casino & Sportsbook | VIP | Instant withdrawals!|ARGENTINA & AVFC on: November 20, 2023, 01:50:00 AM
That's what most people are focusing on, that is definitely the point here, someone who wagers 150 dollars on a bet that is this unlikely is definitely the point we need to congratulate him on, not the win itself. Win is great, he could have easily lost and winning this bet is definitely a great deal, and kudos to him for winning it, but the start of this is at where he spent 150 dollars on a single bet that had such a low chance to win, that is the part where it all starts.

Not many people can afford to do something like this, and that means this dude did something not many can do, and surely the win made it even sweeter, and once again kudos to that, but if he didn't had the courage to bet on these odds with this much money, then he wouldn't have won it all.

He just clicked the button at the right moment which is what we call as luck so this winning is not from any skill or whatsoever but the affordability is different and it's mandatory too for someone who wants to bet in the first place. Of course, everyone wants to taste such wins but the probability of that happening is less so before wagering any amount the only question you need to us yourself is, am I willing to lose this amount? Roll if yes or don't if no.
that is why best to be making the main goal is to Enjoy , and yes we can target winning but knows when to stop chasing, Gambling is created to be a money making machine either the team or the gambler but the table will always win over gambler and that is what we need to understand.
the site is giving us opportunity to enjoy the game so we must be thankful for that and winning must be treated as bonus and nothing more.
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Also, there is nothing wrong with casinos promoting those wins to attract players and it also can be a way of saying they are paying the rewards to their customers if they win.
Generous casino like Duelbits , Roobet and Rollbit is something that we must be Glad as gambler because they kept bringing this generosity to the next level.
and also this is why I never lose faith in this site for couple of years now.
695  Economy / Gambling / Re: Blackjack game with side bets. on: November 19, 2023, 05:51:47 AM
Is someone is silly enough to download unknown software from unknown newbie account without any information nowadays?
As for me - the best way is to delete this thread. I don`t think that someone can download it, but it would be better not to risk.
I think the best way is for all of us to report this thread for Locking since OP shows no interest in dealing about what he posted here and obviously just to shill and a possible malicious link sharing .
and yes we are not stupid enough to just click something that represented by newbie that does not prove anything to be trustworthy .

Op if you want to promote your product then you need to make an detailed ANN thread like these
just posting a link here and telling people to download a app will not going to work, No one will trust you and your product.
I think someone has built an app and paid OP to promote it anywhere because it is new and want some downloads to grow.
This blackjack is not a new casino platform in this forum, because I know quite well that this forum have once welcomed blackjack and even when they launched their campaign, their is one particular place I read this and I confirmed their signature campaign, so think they already have a reputation except that the person posting this is not from the right source of blackjack, but in norms I think that in way of trust people who knows the platform before now will tell you that this platform is a good one, I have not used the platform before and what I wanted to know is that op should direct us on what to do.

If you are talking about the platform yeah, we have https://blackjack.fun/.

But I think the OP is talking about the game in general, that's why he had to make this app for us to try specially if we are not aware that there are sidebets in this game. But as what others have been saying, it's the reputation of the OP that give us some problem.

We are not familiar with him and so we wont' simply download anything that has not gotten any reputation yet from this community. It's better for us to be safe in the beginning and not fall for a trick that we might regret later.
correct and also he needs to prove us that it is safe to download and truly bringing a legit way of betting from Blackjack.fun because if not then we may be tagged as banned or locked account for that reason and of course we don't want to  happen in our account.
696  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: November 19, 2023, 03:27:37 AM
So the new art contest is up on Halloween theme by the Roobet team so who all are excited to take part in it this time and this is really interesting that they have continued it from a long time and making artists motivation up by bringing up these contests on frequent intervals.So check it out and take part and I am waiting to see what our artists creativity brings up this time.
are you referring  to this one mate? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5471545.0 I think that one has Ended and yeah we are  waiting for the result and I am excited to see what is the  winning piece now.
there are  plenty of Entry that I can see to be professionally done and for some case those are really promising and have large amount  to win .
What i was waiting after this Holloween event there will ne next for Christmas as what we have seen from other years of art event .
Just wanted to share that another big giveaway from Roobet team is there where you can have a chance to win $400+ if you follow them on twitter and less time is there to participate so take your chance and see if you are among the lucky rollers this time or not

https://x.com/roobet/status/1725652979829862638?s=46

sadly I did not manage to participate in this , looking forward to other giveaway from Roobet team and hoping to win once more from those Wager amount event in the past .
697  Local / Altcoins (Pilipinas) / Re: running nodes ito naba ang bagong way to earn? on: November 18, 2023, 08:38:08 AM

sige boss gawa ako ng tutorial currently meron akong nodes na nerrun iba sa pc ko, ang iba naman sa vps, gumagastos ako arround 300php+ a month depene kasi sa requirements
Isa na ako sa maghihintay kung paano ito kabayan , is there a chance na magawan mo nga ng tutorial kung paano ginagawa itong mag run ng nodes? ok naba ang Intel core 7 generation 5 para makapag run ng Nodes and VPS?
medyo naghahanap ako ng ibang source of income now lalo na at malapit na ang Halving , medyo inaasahan ko ng bababa ang presyo ng aking mga Holdings and also ganon din magsusulputan ang mga new projects at mga offerings kaya parang mas ok na malaman na namin agad to bago pa ang pagpasok ng next year.
Minsan na rin akong na curious sa VPS at nodes, pero hindi ko naman ito binigyang pansin kasi medyo komplikado para sa akin dahil wala ako masyadong alam sa hardware at saka unang tingin ko palang ay naisip na ko na parang hindi na para sa akin dahil maybayad ito at mahal, can’t afford. Pero ng mabasa ko itong thread mo at yung isa mo pang thread na una kong nakita about VPS sa Google ay pwede pala subukan at merong parang free trial at mas mura. Kaso nag aalangan pa rin ako kasi old na alaptop ko, 2017 pa, di ko alam kung kakayanin pa.
yan din ang gusto ko malaman kung paano na ang requirements sa specification ng computers natin baka kasi pwede na ang at least intelcore5 to 7 with lower generations .
698  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Ang katotohanan kung bakit paakyat ngaun ang BTC on: November 18, 2023, 03:21:44 AM
Sobrang laking influence ng dalawang malaking kumpanya na yan, makikita naman nung unang ilabas ang balita patungkol sa paggalaw o paggawa nila ng hakbang, talagang nagspike ang presyo ng BTC. Idagdag mo pa ang ETF, kung sakali maapprove ito, gaya nga ng sabi mo mas mapapadali at tingin ko mas lalawak ang exposure nito lalo hindi naman lahat nasa stocks ay may alam o alam ang bitcoin. Kung mangyari yan, mas lalo pang magiging malaki ang epekto nito sa market.
Tama ka dyan kabayan dahil itong dalawang dambuhalang kumpanya ay nag dulot satin ng mga magagandang outcome kasi start lang to ng pag galaw , naging dahilan din to para mas tumaya pa ang maliliit na investors kasi nga nakikisabay sila sa flow ng market at natatakot na  baka mahuli sila , kasi best chance to para sa Buying and selling, nagiging paraan din kaya now  may mga nagbebenta na para makakuha na agad ng kita bago pa ulit bumagsak.
sarap din makakuha ng ganitong timing kasi alam naman natin na December na next month at may chance ng kumita ng maganda kasi mostly pumping ang market nyan.
699  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: is right time for investment ? on: November 18, 2023, 02:10:41 AM
The simplest way to start investing is when altcoins are experiencing a decline, and of course the target coin must have good prospects and fundamentals, but it's best before starting to invest in crypto, it's best to study all aspects related to the coin we want to if you are careless and not careful then you will risk losing your money,
this is not only for altcoin but in all coins like bitcoin mate, we must accumulate when the market is dumping to follow the quotation " Buy Low , Sell High"  and from that people must understand to purchase every time that there is a decline.
studying the aspect is also good but we need to be particular in top coins for safer investing.
If you are a close observer of the crypto and bitcoin cycle then I think you know when is the best opportunity, optimizing the greatest potential. If you are new to joining and learning, it couldn't be better when everything is supportive, luckily because at this point everything is cheap and the recovery cycle has begun. I think, now is a great time to invest and structure your portfolio.
sorry but not everything is cheap but yes they are in lower prices , so Folio must be filled while the price is still cheaper comparing in ATH.
700  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Looking for stake alternatives on: November 18, 2023, 01:31:30 AM
Which casinos have good keno game. (original)

But not rigged like stake
Have checked your post History and this is what I found since you are not posting here in this thread of yours .

I have 8k worth of crypto how to invest

This amount to get 10 or 20$ per day safe methods

I tried future trading and lost

Is there any methods related to crypto or something else
And i dont want to invest in altcoins or buying
this is what I found and you looks like you are not interested in gambling anymore and divert your money into investing ?

Well congrats to that because you have troubles with the sites you used to gamble .

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You don't find any of the mentioned casinos and why only Keno game mate, there are plenty of gambling games
that you will surely enjoy.

Great thread mate, you have bring a best contribution to this forum .
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