This is my last response to you since we just seem to be going in circles now x.x
I didn't mean to use different standards. And I don't know that I did. The evidences existing in the universe suggest that God exists way more than they suggest that He doesn't exist. It isn't because I say it. It is simply found in the ways that the universe works.
A simple allegory might be, if you saw smoke way off in the distance, it would suggest that there was fire way off in the distance. But it might be a volcano. Or it might not be smoke, but only a dust cloud that happened to look like smoke. Evidence for fire, but no proof of fire.
However, as the smoke was simply stated above, it would suggest fire way more than a lake. There might be a lake there. But the smoke doesn't suggest it. Until we get there, we won't really know. But if we want to surmise about it, the conclusion would be fire.
In my previous posts about the machine-like quality of the universe, all I am saying is that machines have makers. The machine-like quality of the universe suggests a maker way more than anything else. And the maker of anything as great as our universe would fit the definition of "God." Until we get there, we won't know proof positive.
You keep making the assumption that there being complexity means that there is a higher power. There is absolutely no backing to this claim, and what you claim as backing just goes into the watchmaker fallacy (the watch had to have had a maker because it is so complex, universe is the watch), but something had to have created the watchmaker. We haven't seen any smoke yet, because if you claim complexity as smoke then fire is impossible to exist. Terrible analogy.
Yes. Now if you could only apply that kind of thinking to yourself. I mean, how much bigger can the picture get than the universe?
Perhaps there is no way to validate the Bible. But there are methods that have been used to almost validate it. And the methods used validate the Bible way more than scientific experiments validate evolution. Why? When you consider all the historical and traditional info surrounding the Bible, you come up with a book that can't exist as the Bible exists. Yet the Bible exists all over the world, in many translations, and is believed by millions. No other religious writing carries anywhere near that kind of combined strength.
*facedesk*
Science has validated evolution OVER and OVER and OVER, waaaaay more than any claims you're making about the bible being impossible to exist. Your methods of validating the bible are not scientific, and really have no way of being proven. A lot of people being in a cult doesn't make it true.
Scientific experiments that seem to validate evolution, either validate other ideas that are non-evolution ideas as well, or they are completely non-practical for fitting in the way the universe operates, making them lab experiments only.
There are so many strange and marvelous things in the universe, that something like Spiderman might exist, even though the comic books don't prove him.
Again, you're taking a little snippet and saying that because it doesn't show the whole picture there is room for something else. Look at everything we've found and it all points towards evolution, the lab experiments are just one piece of the puzzle.
Someone might say, "I don't know if God exists, and I don't know if He doesn't exist." This isn't atheism. Atheism is believing God doesn't exist. Check out
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/atheism?s=t for the definition.
Since we don't have scientific proof that God DOES exists, and we don't have scientific proof that He DOESN'T exist, believers IN God, and believers IN NO God are simply opposed religions.
If you don't want to be in a religion, stop believing that God doesn't exist. Simply don't believe either way. At least, stop expressing that you believe that God doesn't exist. Atheism is a religion even though the atheists don't realize it.
You are correct about the definition of atheism, which is why I describe myself as a agnostic atheist. I don't know if there is a god, but I choose to not believe until presented with what I consider to be enough proof. You can't paint us all with one brush, we have different levels of disbelief.
I really don't care if you call atheism a religion or not, seems like a pretty irrelevant point. If not believing in something is a set of beliefs then not eating icecream is a flavor. I'm not going to stop expressing my disbelief, because you poor people trapped in your cults need to see logic and the world for what it is. I give 0 fucks about your beliefs, but when it impacts my government, my tax dollars, and my life then it goes too far.
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