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701  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Selling] New Crypto Imperator Dogecoin Physical coins! on: July 04, 2014, 02:41:57 AM
Those are cute.  I love the front, not sure about the back.  Can I get one with 0 funds but the sticker on it?
wouldant that defeat the point?
the back is much better then in photos
Well.. I have no dodgecoins to fund these coins with. I don't believe in dodge
702  Other / Off-topic / Re: FACEBOOK IS DEAD on: July 04, 2014, 01:54:09 AM
now with oculus rift they'll take over the world!
703  Economy / Collectibles / Re: BEAUTIFUL Titan 1 oz. 999 fine Gold - 1 BTC coins are here on: July 04, 2014, 01:49:32 AM
What karat gold is it?
Says .999 pure gold on the back. That's 24k.
704  Other / Off-topic / Re: Ban the person above you (jokingly). on: July 04, 2014, 01:48:17 AM
Banned for existing.
Banned for breathing my air.
Banned for being a waste of sperm.
...
 Wink
705  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Selling] New Crypto Imperator Dogecoin Physical coins! on: July 04, 2014, 01:45:59 AM
Those are cute.  I love the front, not sure about the back.  Can I get one with 0 funds but the sticker on it?
706  Other / Off-topic / Re: Selfie??? on: July 04, 2014, 01:38:42 AM
that first pic is fukkked up
707  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Selling] The first physical Bitcoin coin(?) on: July 04, 2014, 01:35:22 AM
I love to buy coins, but I don't think this carries much value. Defiantly less than a Casascius coin.

User tcatm doesn't have much of a reputation.  No media coverage.  Nothing.  His post, this forum, and your listing is the only thing that gives it credence and value.  That isn't enough for me.  But it might be for some other person.

Not to mention it could easily be faked.  Good luck.
708  Other / Off-topic / Re: What Are Some of The Craziest Religions Out There? on: July 04, 2014, 01:27:50 AM
I say one of the craziest religions is Googlism.

http://www.thechurchofgoogle.org/

And then Creativity.

http://creativitymovement.net/

ALL religions are crazy.
nuff said.
709  Other / Off-topic / Re: What social network do you use most? on: July 04, 2014, 01:24:40 AM
i dont get reddit users. internet people...
710  Other / Off-topic / Re: My favorite drink is........... on: July 04, 2014, 01:24:16 AM
whatever makes me dizzy
711  Other / Off-topic / Re: Should the government "erase" the student debt? on: July 04, 2014, 01:17:13 AM
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Ahhh, I see now why you're so bitter towards people who managed to graduate from university. You're a dropout who couldn't finish (bored, sure Wink, that's what my towny friends say, too). So you're a college dropout IT guy. How do you measure up against all the college graduate IT guys I know, who -- like me -- are cogs in the machine of top-down organizations? You're pretty clearly biased by the fact that you're a dropout, calling other peoples' skill sets worthless. My guess is you have very little real world experience working in business. You apparently have no clue what kind of demands competitive organizations have. Meanwhile, my in-house counsel friends are shitting all over your salary. Get over yourself.

As another poster said, you are expendable.

No.  You don't get it and never will. You are what I refer to as a normie. A bozo.

The bottom line is we don't need more students going to college majoring in worthless things like you did and then beg for debt forgiveness. Then force all citizens to fork out extra cash to bail them out. Unbelievable.
712  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTS] Brand new Apple Iphone 5S 16GB White on: July 03, 2014, 11:07:06 PM
That is not the original seal. Looks tampered with. Labeling it as new is a lie.
713  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin TOP-500 Richest on: July 03, 2014, 08:41:46 PM
is this still up2date?
714  Economy / Collectibles / Re: BEAUTIFUL Titan 1 oz. 999 fine Gold - 1 BTC coins are here on: July 03, 2014, 08:23:33 PM
A friend just forwarded this on to me and told me to check it out...

GOOD LORD that is sexy.

I have the weirdest bitcoin boner right now.
lolz. gold is sexy. if that gave you a boner, this will giver you an orgasam: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=54845.0
715  Other / Off-topic / Re: Should the government "erase" the student debt? on: July 03, 2014, 08:14:23 PM
How about a trade? Perhaps a program that forgives some of your debt in exchange for volunteering. You could chose Americorp, military service, peace corp, or other federal service organizations. You would not only get a break on your debt, but a resume line.    
That's our tax money paying for them to liquidate their debt. Poor idea.   Unacceptable.

People need to understand that the world is rapidly growing global. You will compete on a global playing field if you wish to be a hotshot. And that's very competitive. There are lots of hungry people out there. And their work ethic blows most of the people away in the US.

I had google try to steal some of my programmers I have in the Ukraine.  Apple's iPhone 4 page was designed and coded by a Ukrainian that now works for me.  The gems are peppered all around the globe, and if you dig for them only on your patch of land, you're toast.
716  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [WTS] MS-64 1BTC 2013 Casascius Coin on: July 03, 2014, 08:09:55 PM
sexy coin. love the high res shots. wish i had a EOS
717  Other / Off-topic / Re: Should the government "erase" the student debt? on: July 03, 2014, 06:30:27 PM
it should be easier to get an education.. the more educated people are, the less shit government can pull. problem is, government doesn't want educated people.
It is easier to get an education.  We have computers now. We have internet. We have YouTube. We have so many new tools thanks to technology that requires us to change our way of action.

I learned how to design and code (front and back end) early in highschool thanks to video lectures I was able to gain access to and stream online.  This was outside of the useless shit I was learning in school.  I was passionate and still am about technology. Then I entered college with a sharp skillet and so much experience and I was surrounded by kids obsessed with video games and cat video games and they thought they were hardcore.  Epic failures.

just because you learned code online on your own doesn't mean everyone else is capable of doing that. most people are just simply not able to learn a useful skill by browsing the web. education also involves other skills where you need to be directly trained for a vocation.

Even if you learn an useful skill online, you still need a qualified individual to confirm that you indeed have a good mastery of that skill.
So even in that situation, going to an university would be useful.
Yes and no.  I feel my work and experience will speak for itself. And that experience lead to a network of respectable peers whose opinion carries significant weight. That adventure is my resume.  I dropped out my junior year of college because I could not stand it. I was bored to the extreme. And I went to a pretty high end school.  The kill switch went off in my database class.  A room packed with 40+ dudes and some guy got up and shouted 'nano vs vim' and ignited the room in a debate... I got up, walked out, went home, never went back. I could not stand being stuck in such a narrow world.  And I never needed college. I only went for my parents. I was very well off financially since junior year of high school.
718  Other / Off-topic / Re: Should the government "erase" the student debt? on: July 03, 2014, 06:23:23 PM
it should be easier to get an education.. the more educated people are, the less shit government can pull. problem is, government doesn't want educated people.
It is easier to get an education.  We have computers now. We have internet. We have YouTube. We have so many new tools thanks to technology that requires us to change our way of action.

I learned how to design and code (front and back end) early in highschool thanks to video lectures I was able to gain access to and stream online.  This was outside of the useless shit I was learning in school.  I was passionate and still am about technology. Then I entered college with a sharp skillet and so much experience and I was surrounded by kids obsessed with video games and cat video games and they thought they were hardcore.  Epic failures.

just because you learned code online on your own doesn't mean everyone else is capable of doing that.
Correct. Like I said it requires passion.  Most high school kids spend their time doing other things. That's just how life unfolded for me. But there is no denying that the average joe these days simply YouTube's how to do something. Regardless of what that is, they're still learning something through that medium.
719  Other / Off-topic / Re: Should the government "erase" the student debt? on: July 03, 2014, 06:20:36 PM
it should be easier to get an education.. the more educated people are, the less shit government can pull. problem is, government doesn't want educated people.
It is easier to get an education.  We have computers now. We have internet. We have YouTube. We have so many new tools thanks to technology that requires us to change our way of action.

I learned how to design and code (front and back end) early in highschool thanks to video lectures I was able to gain access to and stream online.  Built huge websites pushing 20Gbps in traffic with millions of registered members and a very sophisticated, custom-built script.  This was outside of the useless shit I was learning in school.  I was passionate and still am about technology. Then I entered college with a sharp skillet and so much experience and I was surrounded by kids obsessed with video games and cat video games and they thought they were hardcore.  Epic failures.
720  Other / Off-topic / Re: Should the government "erase" the student debt? on: July 03, 2014, 06:11:23 PM
I think it's a crime and injustice to all the people who worked hard to liquidate their debt. It's all those dumb-dumbs that studied theater in college.

That's quite the oversimplification. If you take a closer look at the job market, wages and opportunities have plummeted, benefits are being phased out en masse. When I graduated with BA and paralegal cert, I was competing with out-of-work lawyers for part-time legal support work. The preparation for middle class life that college was supposed to be is no more, and through perverse incentives, increasingly poor people are pushed towards education as subsidies drive the price up persistently.

Well there is your problem. You studied crap. You are just like an accountant. Overhead. Don't contribute much to the whole. I promise you wouldn't have this problem if you were passionate about computer science and majored in it.

Also, your fields is localized and very narrow in terms of global scope. At least when you work in IT or computer science you play in a global marketplace.  Your opportunities are pretty grand.  I can move to Sweden or Italy or Germany and milk my skill set to make a living. What the hell can a lawyer or accountant do in another country they're unfamiliar with. Flip burgers.

A theater major is even more worthless. Yes I'm harsh, but that's reality.

LOL. I'm glad you are apparently quite satisfied with yourself and your computer science background. But are you joking that accountants aren't highly in demand worldwide by every mid-sized and up company? Who do you think runs the books in major multi-national companies? Shit, every IT person I've met in my career were just cogs in the machine. Clearly you view this from within the scope of your anecdotal experience, and don't care to address the issues at hand. That's fine. But the question of education in the scope of macro-economics, and with a productive economy in mind, are a little beyond the clearly biased views you present here.

Nah. You're skillset is worthless. Move on.


I think it's a crime and injustice to all the people who worked hard to liquidate their debt. It's all those dumb-dumbs that studied theater in college.

That's quite the oversimplification. If you take a closer look at the job market, wages and opportunities have plummeted, benefits are being phased out en masse. When I graduated with BA and paralegal cert, I was competing with out-of-work lawyers for part-time legal support work. The preparation for middle class life that college was supposed to be is no more, and through perverse incentives, increasingly poor people are pushed towards education as subsidies drive the price up persistently.

Well there is your problem. You studied crap. You are just like an accountant. Overhead. Don't contribute much to the whole. I promise you wouldn't have this problem if you were passionate about computer science and majored in it.

Also, your fields is localized and very narrow in terms of global scope. At least when you work in IT or computer science you play in a global marketplace.  Your opportunities are pretty grand.  I can move to Sweden or Italy or Germany and milk my skill set to make a living. What the hell can a lawyer or accountant do in another country they're unfamiliar with. Flip burgers.

A theater major is even more worthless. Yes I'm harsh, but that's reality.

it's pretty obvious you know nothing about operating a mid-sized or large company. no such company could survive without competent accounting and legal departments. and IT is just another such department, and yes, you are most definitely expendable too. Wink

Nah. Clearly you're a bozo.


I owe 6 digits of debt and I think this is an assinine idea.  Passing on debt to taxpayers collectively is stupid.  I have kids and I know that college will be difficult, but not every person should be going to college.  I think people assume you go do your 4 years and you can just walk out with a 6 figure job.

America needs to reorganize and have more technical schools for trade.  In India and China you path into medicine from high school more or less.  In Mexico you only have 6+3 years of schooling after 6th grade to become a physician.  In the US it's 12 grade school, 4 college, 4 medical school - there was so much redundancy in college I was bored out of my mind but the school would let me test out of all the AP classes I took in high school.

The solution is not to get rid of the debt (although it wouldn't hurt to drop the interest rate).  The solution is to recognize why it costs 1/4 million dollars to educate somebody with a BS.  Unless they're raising Plato or Socrates from the grave it shouldn't cost that much.

I couldn't agree more with everything said.


There is no such thing like free education, someone will need to pay for the debts, but will be all the tax paying people, even those without the benefits of education, an by coercion.

Every citizen benefits from living in a society which has a high level of educations. Countries who have a more educated population need to spend less to fight crime and on the health system, plus they produces more workers who are useful in the global economy and thus are able to pay more taxes which benefits everybody.

Free education is not a good solution, but it should really be more accessible in the United States.

Correct. And America's secret weapon is the H1B.  Sucks up all the brilliant minds around the world in exchange for work in the biggest economy and citizenship. There is a reason 50%+ PhDs in the US are foreign born. Some universities have 100% PhDs foreign born. Most of the elites are in high-tech and high-sciences.  Lawyers, accountants, etc. are all worthless people. All overhead. All those 'jobs' can be simplified and reduced to nothing. Plus they do no good to the world as a whole. Engineers and scientists build things that benefit the masses. I have no respect for anyone less.
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