Matt Eden was heavily involved with GAW and XPY and now is a part of this project. If you all can't see the danger here I am happy to sit back and each you all make your third mistake in a row. Third times a charm, hopefully. Hopefully this is the last time you all fall for this nice guy bullshit.
Please explain how Matlack was not involved with GAW at all. Business partners with Mordica (the guy instrumental with ripping Matlack off) and now partners with Matt Eden, another GAW employee from the very early days. Whom ever invest in this coin after all of this needs their heads examined severely.
you lie. matt eden is not part of this ion project. why tell such lies ? Read with your own two eyes dipshit! http://www.zupimages.net/up/16/20/zfyh.jpgStill a lie you fucking prick? Jason Sponaugle, another guy heavily involved in bitlend.io with our buddy Allen Gawsuit Shinners. Amazing how many familiar faces there are for something that has nothing to do with GAW. |
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It belongs here because team ionomy's qualifications/stupidity are very important things when discussing how viable this coin will be. If you think it's worth it to riding the markets as a gambler/day trader that's fine, but I will question people that think this is an actual good investment, because I don't see how Matlack can be involved in one.
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What is your definition of stupid? I do not think MrCoins is stupid at all and now you call me stupid. Do you want to say that "stupid" means clever? I am sorry, my english is not that good if I am confused.
Did you invest in gaw? Have you been stupid too?
I did not say you are stupid. I said that if you think I said your stupid for investing in a stupid person, that's your problem. I did not invest in GAW. I know that it makes no sense to run a legitimate cloud mining operation that is profitable for the customers, so I knew that GAW was either a scam or a bad investment from the start, and tried to warn people of that. I also knew that Gaw's claim to buy all the coins (or have target or amazon buy) for $20 made no sense. I have been stupid in the past, but I have learned from those mistakes. Mr Coins is still stupid in the present because he refuses to see how he and Matlack were stupid for falling for Garza's lies, and see how that impacts the ability for this coin/operation to succeed. Thanks for explanation, I just missunderstood you, I am sorry for this. Let me define my point: 1. All altcoins are scam 2. All ICO's and most coins mean => FIFO 3. I do not see many of you that threat blockchain as technology, you threat it more as an currency, business, ... 4. If it is business and considering facts 1-3, you will probably invest if you feel an need for this. 5. In most cases you get out with at least 2x profit. 6. Based on previous 5 points, it is about money, nothing else. 7. Was it stupid to invest into GAW and get out with profit, who knows ICO's, he got early out, before $ 10? 8. If you know previous 7 points, is it dumb or clever if you get in at $ 1 and out on $ 10 if it is about money and you have no moral troubles? My friend, we do not discuss here if somebody is stupid or not, it is question of moral, which is very low currently in crypto, the way how you communicate with many only proves it. If taking it this way, ganza is an genie cause he took so much money of so many people who though they are clever. However, he is an dumb ass and clever people who lost money hopefully learned their lesson as he will his. Those are some ok points. I am not going to try to get in a 1 and out at 10 because of some combination of morals and not wanting to play in a rigged game (the game is rigged in most altcoins because someone who is not me has a boatload of coins to dump whenever they are ready. If your plan is to get in at 1 and out at 10, knowing all the risks, that isn't stupid, although if you get stuck holding the bag you are stupid. If in the process of trying to do all that, you suck other people into the scam via lies and manipulation, you are an asshole, and I will call that out just as much as the stupidity. I stopped mentioning that here because I didn't have "proof" that Matlack was in on the scam, so I just went with stupid. I've said it before and I'll say it again. the people involved in GAW as deeply as Matlack are either stupid (they got robbed by an obvious scam) or assholes in on the scam (trying to get in at 1 and out at 10 based on lies and BS). I'm not sure who exactly falls into which group, and I don't care, because I try not to get involved with people that are idiots or assholes. The idiots will cost me money via their stupidity, and the assholes will just rob me. Other people can get into the specifics as to why this is a bad investment because of the staking and the nodes and the games and TOS and whatnot, but I can't get past that point. First of all I am glad to deal with someone that has an moral. Now I need to ask you if you understand what I've written because your answers tells me you did not. I am not joking, my english is not my primary lenguage, please correct me if I may have missuderstood something. You say that Adam is stupid because he got robbed by an obvious scam. Does that mean that everybody is stupid who did not get out with profif? If not then I do not understand you. In case GAW Adam seems to be victim. Do you implicate that every rubbed victim is stupid? Does it also mean that they get what they earned? To point about assholes, getting one of 10, my friend, your statements do not fit to each other. Adam got rubbed by Garza, thats fact. That means by you that he is stupid and not an asshole, is it correct? If so, why do you write either or? Maybe he is stupid because he got rubbed and an asshole because he tries to rub others. Isn't exactly this what you tried to say? Later on you say that you do not want to involve with people that are idiots or assholes where I though you do not want to deal with stupid people. Who is then an idiot, Adam? In different states are different definitions, but an idiot was used as the term "idiot" to refer to people having an IQ below 30. What do you reffer to or do you just use it as synonym? The idiots will cost me money via their stupidity, and the assholes will just rob me. To the point about the plan, sticking as bagholder, .... => point 1. All altcoins are scam => If you invest into scam it has its risk, before going to point 2., 3. ,... you need to be clear about point 1. @nskendrovic Franzl gave you one of the best tipps, better buy btc and if you want to invest into any other altcoin, dont throw all your btc for that. I only mention the asshole part with regards to Adam because I am not 100% sure that he got robbed. Would someone who got robbed investing in cloud mining be a business partner with the guy who ran the "data center" where the hashlets were supposedly running? That doesn't make sense to me, so i can't be 100% sure that Matlack got robbed by a guy who gave video lectures through the same church he went to and then went into business with the guy in the best position to know that hashlets didn't exist. But don't worry about that, because it is irrelevant if he was stupid or in on the scam, I wouldn't touch a coin run by him in either situation. As for the stupidity, not everyone that gets robbed is stupid. But, people that got robbed by garza, especially to the tune that Adam claims to be, ARE stupid. At least when it comes to cryptocurrency. I don't care if the pitcher for my favorite team knows anything about cryptocurrency, I don't care if the manager of a restaurant I want to invest in knows anything about cryptocurrency, I don't care if the writer of a TV show I'm going to invest in knows anything about cryptocurrency, I do care if the "developer" of a coin I'm going to invest in is knowledgeable about cryptocurrency. And I don't know how someone who lost 6 figures to GAW can claim to be that. GAW was not a run of the mill scam. It was blatantly obvious to plenty of people because there was no way for the claims that Garza was making to make sense. I would call you naive if you believed that Pirate had a bunch of people who never heard of this website that needed to buy boatloads of coins off of the exchanges and fell or that one, but believing Garza's claims shows that you know nothing about cyrpto or finance. There were 2 parts to the GAW scam, and neither made sense. Hashlets that mined altcoins but were not a part of any known mining pool and no evidence of them running their own. When asked for proof that they were mining coins, they refused to provide it, and then the ultimately provided this address https://blockchain.info/address/1P62VZZ9kL97dzzcWhG7JZDssaW2MDgn82 and the 28k coins (at the time) in the "total received" line (and no block rewards) as proof that they were mining. Then these magical hashlets, that were the most advanced miners in the universe, started "mining" "hashpoints" instead of coins that actually had value, and we were onto the second part of the scam, that Garza (or walmart, or amazon, or target, or whoever) would accept coins at a value of $20 even though they could buy as many as they wanted for between 2 and 4 dollars at the time (or that Garza, who gave himself 12 million at the premine and could create as many as he needed via prime controllers, would buy them or $20 each). In conclusion, not everyone who gets robbed is stupid, but people that lost 6 figures because they thought hashlets were real or that Josh would buy xpy for $20 are too stupid to develop a new coin. |
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What is your definition of stupid? I do not think MrCoins is stupid at all and now you call me stupid. Do you want to say that "stupid" means clever? I am sorry, my english is not that good if I am confused.
Did you invest in gaw? Have you been stupid too?
I did not say you are stupid. I said that if you think I said your stupid for investing in a stupid person, that's your problem. I did not invest in GAW. I know that it makes no sense to run a legitimate cloud mining operation that is profitable for the customers, so I knew that GAW was either a scam or a bad investment from the start, and tried to warn people of that. I also knew that Gaw's claim to buy all the coins (or have target or amazon buy) for $20 made no sense. I have been stupid in the past, but I have learned from those mistakes. Mr Coins is still stupid in the present because he refuses to see how he and Matlack were stupid for falling for Garza's lies, and see how that impacts the ability for this coin/operation to succeed. Thanks for explanation, I just missunderstood you, I am sorry for this. Let me define my point: 1. All altcoins are scam 2. All ICO's and most coins mean => FIFO 3. I do not see many of you that threat blockchain as technology, you threat it more as an currency, business, ... 4. If it is business and considering facts 1-3, you will probably invest if you feel an need for this. 5. In most cases you get out with at least 2x profit. 6. Based on previous 5 points, it is about money, nothing else. 7. Was it stupid to invest into GAW and get out with profit, who knows ICO's, he got early out, before $ 10? 8. If you know previous 7 points, is it dumb or clever if you get in at $ 1 and out on $ 10 if it is about money and you have no moral troubles? My friend, we do not discuss here if somebody is stupid or not, it is question of moral, which is very low currently in crypto, the way how you communicate with many only proves it. If taking it this way, ganza is an genie cause he took so much money of so many people who though they are clever. However, he is an dumb ass and clever people who lost money hopefully learned their lesson as he will his. Those are some ok points. I am not going to try to get in a 1 and out at 10 because of some combination of morals and not wanting to play in a rigged game (the game is rigged in most altcoins because someone who is not me has a boatload of coins to dump whenever they are ready. If your plan is to get in at 1 and out at 10, knowing all the risks, that isn't stupid, although if you get stuck holding the bag you are stupid. If in the process of trying to do all that, you suck other people into the scam via lies and manipulation, you are an asshole, and I will call that out just as much as the stupidity. I stopped mentioning that here because I didn't have "proof" that Matlack was in on the scam, so I just went with stupid. I've said it before and I'll say it again. the people involved in GAW as deeply as Matlack are either stupid (they got robbed by an obvious scam) or assholes in on the scam (trying to get in at 1 and out at 10 based on lies and BS). I'm not sure who exactly falls into which group, and I don't care, because I try not to get involved with people that are idiots or assholes. The idiots will cost me money via their stupidity, and the assholes will just rob me. Other people can get into the specifics as to why this is a bad investment because of the staking and the nodes and the games and TOS and whatnot, but I can't get past that point. |
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What is your definition of stupid? I do not think MrCoins is stupid at all and now you call me stupid. Do you want to say that "stupid" means clever? I am sorry, my english is not that good if I am confused.
Did you invest in gaw? Have you been stupid too?
I did not say you are stupid. I said that if you think I said your stupid for investing in a stupid person, that's your problem. I did not invest in GAW. I know that it makes no sense to run a legitimate cloud mining operation that is profitable for the customers, so I knew that GAW was either a scam or a bad investment from the start, and tried to warn people of that. I also knew that Gaw's claim to buy all the coins (or have target or amazon buy) for $20 made no sense. I have been stupid in the past, but I have learned from those mistakes. Mr Coins is still stupid in the present because he refuses to see how he and Matlack were stupid for falling for Garza's lies, and see how that impacts the ability for this coin/operation to succeed. |
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today is 15. May, I see that everybody can buy in until 16. of which time GMT??? I hope also to see wallets that we all want to see. I see no reason why blochain explorer should not be launched now/today if it is ready. Most questions should reply itself after you go live, hope you will answer questions that will be unanswered if with existance of blockchain. For me, it is interesting if Joe Mordica is involved or not. Why do I ask? Because paybase exchange, xpy echange and ionomy exchange all look identical. Taking in mind that same code is used, did you pay Joe anything or is he anyhow involved here? I must admit that I do not have an excuse for you if he is an part of ionomy, he should be part of the hearing where ganza is, not participating in another and next, next .... crypto project. He is one of the next who should be jailed after ganza, same for everybody else who was involved in GAW and did not report it to the authorities, as far as I remember, most of them have college degree. @Phildo I do not know what other see, I see an discussion where you only say that everybody who participates is stupid and an idiot. At the same time you call and ask these people to come over to explain you something, I do not see them coming, I only see non ion members replying here. They are even asked to go and ask on slack and report it here  , for what? To get an "you are stupid" or "you are moron" or ..... as an answer? Isn't it then stupid to call them to come over? But to finaly find out, what is it for? I assume to save innocent people from throwing it away if they are going to scam everbody. How can you save someone if everbody who has no clue only thinks "kindergarden" because your replies do not sound serious. I really would appreciate to get answers to all this questions without an trashtalk, there is plenty time for trashtalk afterwards. Many are scared to post here on bitcointalk at all because they might be bashed for no reason, maybe there will come time when this changes on bitcointalk, as far as I can see, it only gets worse except suchmoon and co. @suchmoon: if we let them answer, they will answer, that's the point. I am glad not to see everybody bashing but building up an constructive discussion, not trashtalk. Thanks for that. I'm not calling everyone stupid, just Mr Coins and Matlack. Matlack for losing money to GAW, and Mr. coins for refusing to see how that makes matlack stupid. If you infer that you are stupid for investing in a company run by someone I call stupid, that's on you. |
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It's not just in my head. Mind you, isn't everything in our heads?
Some people are able to say (seemingly) "negative" things which are actually useful to know, constructive.
Some people have nothing to say except "scam", "garza" or "xpy".
There's different value in those statements and some have no value at all.
And you will ignore them all again, and miss the fact that you are investing in a coin lead by a guy who "innocently" robbed by garza, yet still managed to work with the guy who "ran" the data center that didn't have miners or pay the electric bill, and then be shocked when we have the same result. I'd like to correct you on a couple of points... 1) I didn't hear them the first time around in order to ignore them - I simply wasn't listening at all (my bad). 2) I am listening now, but I am being selective. All of what you have said, I hear. As soon as I see the word garza/scam I kinda switch off. Did you notice how some can get their point/questions across without using these stop words? THESE are those worth listening to, their questions, their points. Some of them are very good and have caused me to research those areas myself. Tunining out will again be your mistake. Attack works/worked with mordiCal after gaw. Mordecai "ran" gaw's data center. Only an investor of your intelligence would not see this as an issue. The same words keep coming up because it's the same shit over and over again. Obvious comparisons to gaw will be pointed out to show what happened in a very similar situation when trying to predict what will happen now. You are one of those that are not worth listening to. Sorry I'm not really talking to you, just quoting you so others can see how stupid you are and hopefully see the light. GAW is central to this coin because the history to people running this coin have with GAW shows how stupid of an idea it is. I'll keep pointing it out so hopefully others don't get sucked in like they did when you said paycoin would get SEC approval. I would like to point out Bitcoin was central to GAW. Because if your going to run a scam might as well scam all the stupid people who are in bitcoin. Amazing i can make that link and say you are stupid cause you like bitcoin. Overall it does not matter. You are not hurting Ionomy with your slander. You think bitcointalk is the whos who of the bitcoin world like this is the place everyone goes to figure out what is what. Most people will show up here when they start feeling a bit scared of a project. Not at the start. Now if the project goes tits up. Then you will see a influx of people on here. But lets take this like the current presidential candidate runner Mr Donald Trump. (So many people hate him... So much Shit talk from others online and even other Runners. Even his own party. And look he won the GOP... He is the Republic Presidential Candidate.. He did not run one single ad. He spent hardly anything on his campaign cause he knew EVEN BAD PRESS is Good Press. Cause it get him name out without costing him a dime. So Again I thank every single one of you guys here for talking crap and keeping this thread at the top of list.... Investing in bitcoin may be something only stupid people do, the book is still out on that, but it's obvious that people who bought "digital cloud miners" despite no evidence on any blockchain, or xpy in hopes that Garza would buy them back for $20 for no logical reason, are several degrees more stupid than people investing in bitcoin could ever be. And these are the people running this coin. I also want to point out that there is no problem with an individual being stupid, some people can't help it, some people choose to be, the problem comes when these stupid people claim to be able to pull something off like this ion system. What are their qualifications? The only qualification I see is being ripped off by GAW, how that makes someone qualified to run a coin/website/game company is the question. |
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It's not just in my head. Mind you, isn't everything in our heads?
Some people are able to say (seemingly) "negative" things which are actually useful to know, constructive.
Some people have nothing to say except "scam", "garza" or "xpy".
There's different value in those statements and some have no value at all.
And you will ignore them all again, and miss the fact that you are investing in a coin lead by a guy who "innocently" robbed by garza, yet still managed to work with the guy who "ran" the data center that didn't have miners or pay the electric bill, and then be shocked when we have the same result. I'd like to correct you on a couple of points... 1) I didn't hear them the first time around in order to ignore them - I simply wasn't listening at all (my bad). 2) I am listening now, but I am being selective. All of what you have said, I hear. As soon as I see the word garza/scam I kinda switch off. Did you notice how some can get their point/questions across without using these stop words? THESE are those worth listening to, their questions, their points. Some of them are very good and have caused me to research those areas myself. Tunining out will again be your mistake. Attack works/worked with mordiCal after gaw. Mordecai "ran" gaw's data center. Only an investor of your intelligence would not see this as an issue. The same words keep coming up because it's the same shit over and over again. Obvious comparisons to gaw will be pointed out to show what happened in a very similar situation when trying to predict what will happen now. You are one of those that are not worth listening to. Sorry I'm not really talking to you, just quoting you so others can see how stupid you are and hopefully see the light. GAW is central to this coin because the history to people running this coin have with GAW shows how stupid of an idea it is. I'll keep pointing it out so hopefully others don't get sucked in like they did when you said paycoin would get SEC approval. |
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It's not just in my head. Mind you, isn't everything in our heads?
Some people are able to say (seemingly) "negative" things which are actually useful to know, constructive.
Some people have nothing to say except "scam", "garza" or "xpy".
There's different value in those statements and some have no value at all.
And you will ignore them all again, and miss the fact that you are investing in a coin lead by a guy who "innocently" robbed by garza, yet still managed to work with the guy who "ran" the data center that didn't have miners or pay the electric bill, and then be shocked when we have the same result. I'd like to correct you on a couple of points... 1) I didn't hear them the first time around in order to ignore them - I simply wasn't listening at all (my bad). 2) I am listening now, but I am being selective. All of what you have said, I hear. As soon as I see the word garza/scam I kinda switch off. Did you notice how some can get their point/questions across without using these stop words? THESE are those worth listening to, their questions, their points. Some of them are very good and have caused me to research those areas myself. Tunining out will again be your mistake. Attack works/worked with mordiCal after gaw. Mordecai "ran" gaw's data center. Only an investor of your intelligence would not see this as an issue. The same words keep coming up because it's the same shit over and over again. Obvious comparisons to gaw will be pointed out to show what happened in a very similar situation when trying to predict what will happen now. |
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Well that's too bad, I still think it was pretty great achievement he almost made it to 100% ROI using this method, but ok maybe some ppl are right and it would be smarter to just bet regular way and not martingale it
Not sure how doing exactly what any math textbook says will happen if you try martingale is an accomplishment. It's a great way to win a few bucks at a time, until it doesn't work and you lose all that money that you won and then some more. I guess it was nice to see a real life example so hopefully the next person doesn't do it, but why did someone have to burn some cash to figure it out? Because Carles can afford to lose that money, and it's always good to try an experiment. Also, the experiment could have payed off well if it worked. Unfortunately, it didn't, but at least now we found a way that doesn't work. I look forward to Carles' next method and attempt. It's not good to try an experiment for something that is known (unless you are doing a 6th grade science fair project.) Anyone who has a taken a statistics class knew what the result of this experiment would be. Yes, but if Carles was really lucky, he could've come out on top. It's like his all in strategy he used to do; we all know that going all in will eventually lead to a loss, but Carles wants to see if he has enough luck and skill to win enough in a row. It would've been possible in theory. Of course, if he did it for too long, it would eventually lead to a loss, which it did. You don't win at sports betting by being lucky, you win by being good. And no matter how lucky he could have been, he would have ended up better off financially (which is what matters when we are talking about sports betting) by picking a strategy that isn't proven to be useless. How anyone would set out on a strategy where 5 wins in a row nets you 25 bucks and five losses in a row costs you $125 is beyond me. |
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How do you know for a fact? Its not in the whitepaper its not on the site so its not common public knowledge. Can you please state how you know these facts?
its good they are mining first 2000 blocks good free credits for them or are they going to burn them? Means up to block height 2000 all addresses are theirs thats the great thing about blockchain from this they can't hide with all moves.. we'll know every little amount. But it won't be through them being transparent it'll be the blockchain showing the dirty laundry.
This was posted by huey (Matlack) on slack. Technically the first 2000 blocks should have 0 block reward hardcoded but I wouldn't get my hopes too high for that.  Garza said the same things and we see how that worked out... This is why everyone is demanding transparency and the arrogant ION team doesn't feel they need to provide it. I wish the ION team and their 500 investors the best of luck. If you can get off the "ION = Garza" train then actually, some seemingly "negative" posts actually have good questions and arguments. Some people lump all these types of posts together, but they are not the same. There's the "ION = Garza" crew - which really I don't have any time for, and neither should anyone else. There's the "Why should we trust ION?" crew who pretty much all have valid questions and queries. These guys are worth listening to. You drawing those imaginary lines in your head is why you (apparently) lost so much with mr ganza and will lose so much in the future. There still has been no explanation as to why people stupid enough to get robbed by garza should be trusted to be competent enough to do something this complicated. It's not just in my head. Mind you, isn't everything in our heads? Some people are able to say (seemingly) "negative" things which are actually useful to know, constructive. Some people have nothing to say except "scam", "garza" or "xpy". There's different value in those statements and some have no value at all. And you will ignore them all again, and miss the fact that you are investing in a coin lead by a guy who "innocently" robbed by garza, yet still managed to work with the guy who "ran" the data center that didn't have miners or pay the electric bill, and then be shocked when we have the same result. |
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How do you know for a fact? Its not in the whitepaper its not on the site so its not common public knowledge. Can you please state how you know these facts?
its good they are mining first 2000 blocks good free credits for them or are they going to burn them? Means up to block height 2000 all addresses are theirs thats the great thing about blockchain from this they can't hide with all moves.. we'll know every little amount. But it won't be through them being transparent it'll be the blockchain showing the dirty laundry.
This was posted by huey (Matlack) on slack. Technically the first 2000 blocks should have 0 block reward hardcoded but I wouldn't get my hopes too high for that. Garza said the same things and we see how that worked out... This is why everyone is demanding transparency and the arrogant ION team doesn't feel they need to provide it. I wish the ION team and their 500 investors the best of luck. If you can get off the "ION = Garza" train then actually, some seemingly "negative" posts actually have good questions and arguments. Some people lump all these types of posts together, but they are not the same. There's the "ION = Garza" crew - which really I don't have any time for, and neither should anyone else. There's the "Why should we trust ION?" crew who pretty much all have valid questions and queries. These guys are worth listening to. You drawing those imaginary lines in your head is why you (apparently) lost so much with mr ganza and will lose so much in the future. There still has been no explanation as to why people stupid enough to get robbed by garza should be trusted to be competent enough to do something this complicated. |
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So are the stakers not real things?
So team ionomy will have masternodes that produce buttloads of coins, and distribute them to people that "have" stakers, when stakers are just lines in ionomy's database? I can't see how this goes wrong.
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so about half has been burned... what happend to the other half
Yep. the XPY wallet is complete shit, it crashes and becomes corrupt when combining and sending transactions. My guess they will will continue to burn them after the launch. And weren't these people responsible for fixing the wallet? |
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I have one better for you. Invested in S5 shares at the end of August. Not even 9 months into my 1 year contract he removes my shares and payouts because they are no longer profitable. Now the s7 share payouts have been decreased so much that it isn't even possible to break even on those. And now Tommy has the audacity to offer S9 pre-sale shares? Really? What is that for? To pay your VIP share holders in what appears to be yet another ponzi cloud mining operation.
Good luck trying to get any existing members to reinvest. I'll make sure i spread the word of this scammer to any potentially new customers. This operation will go under by the end of the year......i bet.
Tommy is a scamming douche bag.
Who is this guy anyhow? Has he been doxed or is he an unknown scammer like marcelo santos of scrypt.cc?? Tommy is a good guy. He wasn't doxed. He gives out his (real) full name. They have a small farm. They have regularly proved that they are mining since they have opened. They don't run absurdly low priced sales because they can't afford to. They make it incredibly clear what hash power they have and provide proof. As far as I can tell, there is zero sketchy about MS. The majority of people commented on this thread are here to spam their sigs. I've been chatting with Tommy since before he bought the initial antminers. All the people crying "ponzi" need to do is contact him with their concerns and I'm sure they will be put to rest. Can you show me some of the coins they mined on the blockchain? I they "regularly proved that they are mining" this should be pretty simple. They don't solo mine. They mine in a pool. Send an email to them. I'm sure they will give account info so you can look up their pool stats. What pool? If they are in a pool the coins should still be relatively new. Inability to prove they are legit publicly means an inability for me to do anything but say scam. It's trivially simple to show that they are legitimate, if they can't do that publicly, they can't be trusted. |
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I have one better for you. Invested in S5 shares at the end of August. Not even 9 months into my 1 year contract he removes my shares and payouts because they are no longer profitable. Now the s7 share payouts have been decreased so much that it isn't even possible to break even on those. And now Tommy has the audacity to offer S9 pre-sale shares? Really? What is that for? To pay your VIP share holders in what appears to be yet another ponzi cloud mining operation.
Good luck trying to get any existing members to reinvest. I'll make sure i spread the word of this scammer to any potentially new customers. This operation will go under by the end of the year......i bet.
Tommy is a scamming douche bag.
Who is this guy anyhow? Has he been doxed or is he an unknown scammer like marcelo santos of scrypt.cc?? Tommy is a good guy. He wasn't doxed. He gives out his (real) full name. They have a small farm. They have regularly proved that they are mining since they have opened. They don't run absurdly low priced sales because they can't afford to. They make it incredibly clear what hash power they have and provide proof. As far as I can tell, there is zero sketchy about MS. The majority of people commented on this thread are here to spam their sigs. I've been chatting with Tommy since before he bought the initial antminers. All the people crying "ponzi" need to do is contact him with their concerns and I'm sure they will be put to rest. Can you show me some of the coins they mined on the blockchain? I they "regularly proved that they are mining" this should be pretty simple. |
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He tried to used martingale with odds of over 1,80 in this thread, I think using 1.50 odds this strategy can be profitable as the number of wins should have been higher considering a good tipster like CarlesPuyol. Still very risky one, but Carles just showed us he almost achieved it 100% ROI, 97% ROI is great still and I hope he can try again, although I did not follow a lot of bets here as I am focusing more on my tips.
But he didn't actually get a 97% roI. He lost money. If you are going to use worse odds you need to more than double your bet to make sure you win enough money to make up for all your other losses, and while it will be harder to lose x in a row, you will still lose more doing that than by using any other competent method. |
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Well that's too bad, I still think it was pretty great achievement he almost made it to 100% ROI using this method, but ok maybe some ppl are right and it would be smarter to just bet regular way and not martingale it
Not sure how doing exactly what any math textbook says will happen if you try martingale is an accomplishment. It's a great way to win a few bucks at a time, until it doesn't work and you lose all that money that you won and then some more. I guess it was nice to see a real life example so hopefully the next person doesn't do it, but why did someone have to burn some cash to figure it out? Because Carles can afford to lose that money, and it's always good to try an experiment. Also, the experiment could have payed off well if it worked. Unfortunately, it didn't, but at least now we found a way that doesn't work. I look forward to Carles' next method and attempt. It's not good to try an experiment for something that is known (unless you are doing a 6th grade science fair project.) Anyone who has a taken a statistics class knew what the result of this experiment would be. |
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Holy shit, I had forgotten that matlack was in business with Joe "i ran a data center that had no miners and didn't pay the electric bill" mordica and Mr. gawsuit.
And you guys are trusting him with money?
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