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781  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-11-06 Yahoo Finance : Video commentary on current rally ($15m into BIT) on: November 07, 2013, 05:58:29 PM
I am very interested to know what other mechanisms exist to purchase bitcoins, the only ones I know of are:

- Exchanges
- Coinbase
- BTC ATMs
- In-person cash sales

In person cash sales & ATMs are not going to provide the $millions in volume needed and coinbase has daily limits and uses exchanges in the back end anyway.

So... Where else can BIT purchase?

Find one or more large holders, make contracts with them. Something along the lines of agreeing to buy X BTC for Y USD each over Z months, for example. Now you've locked in a price and your liabilities are better known than if you were just going to buy on the exchanges as needed. Chances are, you'll get a pretty decent rate when buying in bulk, too.
782  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Why did my wallet.dat's file size decrease after I encrypted it? on: November 05, 2013, 12:07:31 AM
If you have enough BTC in that wallet to worry about the encryption holding up, you should be worried about your computer getting compromised. Get a linux livecd or make a bootable usb, boot up, make a paper wallet while offline. Encrypted, if you prefer. Never let the private key touch an online system until you want to spend the coins. Brownie points for signing the transaction offline when you do decide to spend.
783  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 05, 2013, 12:01:19 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=324918.0

^this (inability to withdraw btc) could cause panic selling if it becomes widespread.

BTC withdrawal delays on Gox have been reported every now and then for a long time now. IIRC the official explanation long ago was that that's how their system is set up. A relatively small hot wallet or something, maybe.
784  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So lets see how bitcoin ATM's are doing on: October 31, 2013, 03:26:26 PM
I expected a much higher amount than $10k. At least an order of magnitude higher. It seems a majority are dabbling in small amounts less than one bitcoin.

I guess it would look weird to be regularly seen stuffing $3000 in the machine, as I would have done if this were closer to where I live. Cheesy


Using an ATM is likely to always be more expensive than buying at an exchange, or OTC. There's so much overhead in getting and maintaining one, considering it's tied to a single location. Where they may shine, though, is small transactions. Right now it's not very easy to buy or sell small amounts of bitcoins. It's not worth the hassle for many to get registered at an exchange and wait for a bank transfer to clear for 20 USD or so. Most sellers on Localbitcoins seem to have relatively high limits - it's not worth their time to go meet someone for pocket change. So an ATM fits this niche quite well, but the users will have to pay a premium.
785  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario on: October 29, 2013, 08:13:41 PM
I'm curious what kind of crack someone had to smoke to think this was remotely legal.

I'm not sure anyone did. IIRC, Nefario certainly didn't market his big idea as anything other than an... extralegal marketplace from the get-go. The real question is, why didn't it cause any alarm when he started to use his real name? According to the Wired interview, he was the only non-anonymous member of GLBSE - how was that supposed to pan out? How do you have a CEO or whatever he was considered in a clearly illegal enterprise who is entirely traceable, prosecutable and jailable?
786  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - China wall movement tracker on: October 22, 2013, 02:55:58 PM
Someone seems to be dicking around on btcchina. Some kind of posturing - the bid and ask walls move back and forth, seems to be about 300 BTC worth of either being removed from one side and added to the other, and back again.
787  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many bitcoins you are holding *NO TROLLING on: October 21, 2013, 11:33:32 AM
People usually feel a bit wary of putting a big "rob me" sign around their necks. It's maybe not a huge risk to say how much you're holding, but it is a risk, and seems to have no benefit.
788  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Justcoin · Secure Bitcoin Exchange from Norway (BTC/EUR) on: October 21, 2013, 11:27:32 AM
Hi, the service looks good so far. One thing I'd like to see is the ability to leave orders pending, to be activated when the funds needed for them arrive. Pretty much like Gox does, or at least used to do it. For one, this would solve the issue of having to manually calculate how many BTC you can get at a given rate before placing the order. You could just enter a bid for, say, 10 BTC @ 100 EUR and only the portion of the bid you have funds to cover would go into the orderbook. If you had 900 EUR in  your account, this would create a "live" bid for 9 BTC and leave a bid for 1 BTC pending, for when you either deposit more EUR or sell BTC.

There are other ways to remove the need to calculate BTC amounts, like a "use all funds available" button when placing a bid, but this would also allow users to be a bit less hands-on with placing and removing bids as the market moves. It's pretty crude, and using a bot would be much more powerful, but for someone just trying to catch peaks and drops it would make things a lot easier, not having to manually add a bid every time a sell nets more EUR into one's account.

It can, of course, be a bit dangerous to have pending bids and asks, if you forget they're there... Also I seem to recall Gox removed or at least considered removing this type of feature as it was supposedly contributing to their lag issues. Still, maybe worth thinking about?
789  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin might rise over 200 unexpectedly soon on: October 15, 2013, 05:23:37 PM
Last night in *my* dream a CIAAA Road Service agent helped me and some other folks get away after a heist by throwing a blue blanket over us, enclosing us in some sort of transdimensional bubble, bright blue and shimmering, which bullets couldn't pass through.

I'm not sure dreams are very useful for predicting the future.
790  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Chinese government IS backing Bitcoin?!?! on: October 15, 2013, 04:53:00 PM
Honestly, if we're talking about making Bitcoin acceptable to governments as a reserve currency, there are many more bumps in the road than just Satoshi's holdings. Apart from what I'd expect to be a general unpalatability for governments, there are other relatively large holders, too. I currently see government's embracing decentralized cryptocurrencies only slightly before they stop taxing people, but should the unthinkable occur, I still don't see why any government would elect not to roll their own alt.
791  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Chinese government IS backing Bitcoin?!?! on: October 15, 2013, 04:28:12 PM
1BitcoinEaterAddressDontSendf59kuE is the public key. Apparently, you can send coins to any address as long as the checksum at the end of the address is valid for the address.
792  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Chinese government IS backing Bitcoin?!?! on: October 15, 2013, 04:17:12 PM

Is it provably possible to create an address with a private key that is not known?  

http://blockexplorer.com/address/1BitcoinEaterAddressDontSendf59kuE

Like this one? Technically, you can't prove the private key isn't known but realistically, no-one can brute force a string that long.
793  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-10-14 BusinessWeek: China State Press, 'Building de-Americanized World' on: October 15, 2013, 07:52:59 AM
Pretty sure they don't mean Bitcoin. Even if they were looking at cryptocurrency - unlikely - they'd roll an alt rather than use a currency with 10% of the supply potentially controlled by its unknown creator. Bitcoin as world reserve currency would make Satoshi a world power overnight.
794  Economy / Speculation / Re: Stop panic selling on: October 02, 2013, 10:51:42 PM
So now you know the worst method to store bitcoin is a paper wallet, anything with a strong password works better

What's to keep you from encrypting the keys before printing to paper?
795  Economy / Digital goods / Re: King of Bitcoin (Ebook) on: September 29, 2013, 12:47:48 PM
Wow, that's a big price difference between Amazon and Smashwords. Even the 3.99 USD price seems rather high for 30 pages, though, based on what I've seen of ebook pricing in general.
796  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Major Flaw With Bitcoin?? on: September 29, 2013, 12:31:11 PM
What if Al-Qaeda transfers a few dollars into your bank account?
797  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Finnish tax authority releases instruction on taxation of virtual currencies on: September 28, 2013, 07:48:18 PM
No mention of VAT. It's my interpretation Bitcoin is not considered a digital good subject to VAT here.
798  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Finnish tax authority releases instruction on taxation of virtual currencies on: September 27, 2013, 10:01:22 AM
Something went wrong with this post! Let's try again:

Edit: I should note I'm not a lawyer or in any way familiar with Finnish tax codes. I write this as a layman, my translations may be inaccurate, and I may have misinterpreted some things. Caveat lector.

http://vero.fi/fi-FI/Syventavat_veroohjeet/Verohallinnon_ohjeet/Virtuaalivaluuttojen_tuloverotus

In Finnish, I don't have time to translate fully or go into a deeper summary. They use BTC as an example, but say the same rules apply to other currencies as well. I'll use the same device here.

At a glance, some of the more interesting points:

-Virtual currencies are not "real, official currency", nor are they securities or bonds in the sense meant by the law. They are, however, legal to use, and are treated as "an other, unspecified type of agreement between users".

-Fiat-denominated gains are taxable as capital gains. This applies when selling bitcoins for fiat at a profit as compared to when one bought the BTC, as well as to using bitcoins to buy goods or services directly. In both cases, the value of the BTC spent is calculated at the time of spending, and the cost of acquiring them is determined by when they were bought, first in, first out.

-Losses from investing in BTC are *not* tax-deductible. BTC trading is said to be similar to trading in CFDs, for which there is a precedent from the Finnish Supreme Court, with this conclusion.

-Profits from mining are treated as income gains, realized at the moment the miner gains control of the BTC, and calculated at the exchange rate at that time. (No kidding. Good luck with that!)

-Profits from gambling and games (sale of in-game items, for example) are taxable as income, valued at the exchange rate at the time the BTC gained is traded for fiat. Losses are, again, not deductible, but are treated as costs incurred in hobby activities.

-When receiving Bitcoins as payment, as a business, such income is taxable at the exchange rate at the time of the transaction. Here they give some definition of how value is determined: The value is converted to Finnish currency (EUR at the moment...) at the daily rate, if such is available, otherwise the value agreed upon by the parties of the transaction is used. Intrestingly, here, it seems losses from selling BTC *are* tax-deductible.

-At the end there appears to be a concession to professional Bitcoin trading, where the taxation of such can be treated more like taxation of securities trading,  with a cursory list of requirements, but I'm afraid I don't quite grasp what the implications are. Maybe someone familiar with Finnish tax law on investing can clarify?
799  Economy / Gambling / Re: Player wins a 46k Audi on Just-Dice! on: September 19, 2013, 08:24:51 AM
Damn! I wish I was lucky enough to even win 0.1 BTC! Wow what a nice amount of winning
Just go there and bet 0.1 BTC on 49.5% odds and you will have a 49.5% chance of winning 0.1 BTC:)

IOW, a 51.5% chance of losing 0.1 BTC.
800  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Legit or Not? Triple Your Bitcoins in 3 Days? on: September 18, 2013, 10:53:38 AM
Yes, seems like a Ponzi scheme, but you can try a small amount and test it out.

Huh

If it's a ponzi scheme, how will that help?
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