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81  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [INFORMATION] ICG GRADING on: May 10, 2019, 10:15:31 PM
So will previously highly graded ANACS coins hold up accordingly in the resell market? If I bought some ANACS MS69 and MS70 coins will they fetch premiums in the event I ever wanted to sell them? I would sure hope so and common sense dictates that, but it's beginning to sound and feel like people have little to no respect for any of the grading companies especially ANACS at this time. Would love to get any and all community feedback here on everything graded prior to this visit and subsequent post regarding all of this. Looking forward to everyone's thoughts here.


PS: Excellent write up anonymousminer. And nice work by both yourself and Charlie for giving ICG a new template to work with for the future. Just want some clarity for the past stuff.


iBHK8
For as long as I've been collecting coins (non crypto first), people have argued about which service is better etc... and they keep doing so to this day.

However, If you look at coin auction data, the top ones based on sales figures are PCGS and NGC.  All other services get dinged in price because they are not as good. (doesn't mean it couldn't change over time)
Grading crypto coins won't be any different if and when NGC/PCGS start doing so.
When people attempt to cross over an MS68/69 there's a 99.999% probability that NGC and PCGS would say it won't cross over at same or higher grade.
There will be a few exceptions ofcourse.  If you had a high grade coin that came out of an unopened roll (meaning the roll was opened CORRECTLY at a grading service) that probably will cross over.  That roll would also have to be made up of the very first coins struck by a pair of dies... Initial coins are of higher quality (under magnification) as the dies keep stamping out coins, they begin to wear out and produce coins are not as good as the first ones.  Initial coins often have more of a proof like effect than do later coins.

82  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [INFORMATION] ICG GRADING on: May 10, 2019, 09:58:04 PM
Not been really active lately, but is the community consensus now that its all ICG and ANACS is out? I have graded a few coins here and there and ANACS started out strong then fell off... I wonder if ICG will do the same? Has anyone made a chart comparing grades between the 2? I know that in the past ICG consistently graded 1+ grade higher for the same coin compared to ANACS.
I believe MJ has the data, but lately it has been the opposite.... ANACS just slaps 68 or 69 on everything now.
Ive gotten MS70s from them.  But these are rare.  Basically if the coins came in contact with hard surfaces (typically same metal, i.e. another coin) in any way during minting and assembly process and beyond, it won't be a 70.  70 is a perfect coin and unfortunatly Ive seen very few crypto coins that are perfect.  the minting processes used are just not that good.

From APMEX:
In the United States, grading companies are ranked into three main tiers based on their reputation for consistent and reliable evaluations and acceptance in the numismatic marketplace. Certified coins by the two top-tiered grading services command the highest premiums in the numismatic marketplace. The Professional Coin Grading Services (PCGS) and the Numismatic Guaranty Corporation (NGC) are rated as “Superior” by the Professional Numismatists Guild. Coins graded by PCGS or NGC are accepted in the marketplace at their stated grade. The middle-tiered grading service ANACS has been in existence the longest, but their grading is considered to be acceptable. ANACS graded coins generally trade at lower premiums than PCGS or NGC graded coins. All of the other companies not mentioned above are considered in the lowest-tier of grading services. Coins graded by any other company will likely be devalued because of inconsistent or “looser” grading standards. When choosing a grading service, it’s best to choose one of the two top-tiered companies PCGS or NGC.

If anything, this community should place effort into getting NGC and/or PCGS to grade crypto coins.  Maybe we form a working group for this?
83  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [JUST FOR FUN] How much will The Times 03 Jan 2009 sell for? on: May 08, 2019, 01:31:55 AM
21 million btc
84  Other / Archival / Re: . on: April 23, 2019, 02:17:27 PM
Are those priv keys exposed in pic?
85  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Auction] Kialara Hydra #90 on: April 22, 2019, 10:35:22 PM
.152
austion is over, winning bid, congrats!

Sorry I noticed through PM my bid was late and invalid, DAMMIT  G.O.T. episode 2  Angry  I was to distracted Roll Eyes
oops, my bad, didn't notice that. bavicrypto is the winner.
86  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Auction] Kialara Hydra #90 on: April 22, 2019, 09:58:10 PM
.152
austion is over, winning bid, congrats!
87  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Question Kialara plastic case on: April 22, 2019, 05:43:04 PM
they are not out yet
88  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Auction] Kialara Hydra #90 on: April 20, 2019, 01:18:36 PM
0.137 BTC
Highest bidder at this point.  A bit over 2 days to go!
89  Economy / Collectibles / [Auction] Kialara Hydra #90 on: April 13, 2019, 04:53:57 PM
Auctioning:

Kialara Hydra #90

Shipped world-wide, shipping paid by the winner of the auction.

Starting bid: 0.01 BTC
Minimum increase: 0.001 BTC
No reserve price.

Auction ends on Monday 22nd April, 21:00 UTC.

Bids in the last 15 minutes extend the auction to a maximum of 15 minutes after the last bid.

Proof of funds or a collateral may be asked from new bidders to be eligible to bid on the auction. I reserve the right to reject bids from or deny sale to any individual for any reason.

Happy bidding!

pics:
https://i.imgur.com/6bPL2RM.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/hYxM8sy.jpg


90  Other / Archival / Re: . on: April 10, 2019, 06:00:19 PM
incredible rarity!
91  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Tarnish on brass Casascius coins, what to do? on: April 10, 2019, 05:55:42 PM
Hi, I have been looking at a few 2011 brass Casascius coins that appear to have some tarnish on them but otherwise look to be in pretty good shape. Is it possible to use a brass cleaner (like Weiman Brass polish, or Brasso metal polish) on the front of the coin at least (not anywhere near the hologram) to clean them up, or is this just a Bad Idea that will cause issues?

Are the brass coins (and silver coins for that matter) prone to tarnish in general, if not kept in an airtight storage container?

Thanks in advance for all guidance here!
absolutely no cleaning.
put in in an airtight, never handle with bare hands, get it sealed in some container, like a grading slab.
besides no cleaning rule for coins, no one has ever tested the effects of chemicals on the hologram itself.  It may react and your priv key could be lost.
92  Other / Meta / Re: KYC should include private keys (+post your private keys here) on: April 01, 2019, 02:49:05 AM
i lost mine in a mining accident
93  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [WTS] Kialara Original 2015 - RARE, UNIQ, #16 - 0.14 BTC - lower price! on: April 01, 2019, 01:54:49 AM
how has it been stored/handled?  did the metal come into contact with skin or hard materials?
94  Other / Meta / Re: Collection of bitcointalk.org's KYC icons on: April 01, 2019, 01:46:43 AM
Verified google translator
95  Other / Meta / Re: KYC now required on: April 01, 2019, 01:41:19 AM
96  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [ANN][WTS]Crypto Ultimate Collectors Set 0/10 left on: March 07, 2019, 07:31:20 PM
Lookie what showed up today!

https://i.imgur.com/3sSZAky.jpg

97  Other / Archival / Re: . on: February 25, 2019, 12:48:14 AM
Wow this is gorgeous!   Shocked Shocked Shocked

Any estimate of how much this goes for???

my guess: 14 to 15 BTC
they sold for 15, so doubt it would be less than that. plus they are incredibly rare and special
98  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [ANN][WTS]Crypto Ultimate Collectors Set 0/10 left on: February 14, 2019, 04:00:44 PM
Ah, that makes sense, thanks!
99  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [ANN][WTS]Crypto Ultimate Collectors Set 0/10 left on: February 14, 2019, 01:56:40 PM
If by some chance, one of the sales falls through on this beautiful set (doubtful I'm sure), could you put me on the alternate list if there is one.

Alternate List:
#1 - av8rjeff
#2

 Roll Eyes
as far as I know everything has been paid for already...
i dont see anyone asking for a refund.
however, I suppose it’s possible due to life  circumstances...
in that case, you should ask for any serial as the lower ones aren’t going to become available
100  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Amber bitcoins. Manual exclusive work on: February 13, 2019, 01:57:42 PM
got a video? can you describe the process and placement of ambers?
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