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8581  Economy / Invites & Accounts / Re: Deep web bitcoin accounts on: November 26, 2016, 07:55:37 AM
Ive been checkin some bitcoin news on deep web.
What do you think about those accounts for sell? If btc is so safe what about those then?
I think it would be like give 1 btc and get an account with 20 BTC Btc in it only if you open   FreeBtc.exe lol  Grin
Jokes apart..
No one will offer such service because they can transfer the btc from those accounts to their own and no one will know.
And i hear some people selling btc in social media too I dont know if there persons really legit. You can buy it much cheaper there ithink you can still buy around $600 than the current price but the problem is where it is came from I didn't know if that btc safe to use I only hear it from some of my friends telling to me. I do not search for that persons coz I donot have interest for buying it.
When I see those kind of offers I usually rejects it because I know its already a scam on the first place. Who the hell would sell bitcoin lower to the current price? If he will do that negative profits will he commit and no one  really likes that . Some people do fall sometimes on these kind of craps instead of having a profits they will surely be scammed in the end.
8582  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting on sport = gambling? on: November 26, 2016, 07:28:26 AM
I prefer sports gambling because we can know ahead dahuli team we are going to bet. to see the review team can we know whether the team will win or not, although it does not guarantee we will win
Although I don't get the word that I highlighted, but I get your statement. It does not mean that we will win because we have all the relevant information in sports handicapping. Some of the data we get might not work out during the game as there's a lot of factors to be considered.

If you know public bets, you will get what I mean. Public love to be on favorite but failed to analyze the line, they grab directly.
We should really think about the factors affecting the result of the game. Even though the team is somehow leading in most people or gamblers out there but still no guarantee to make 100% sure win. Informations and statistics are just supplementals but not a huge factor on making a sure win bet. Regarding on OP= Betting on sport is indeed a gambling because you are risking money to earn money.
8583  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: November 26, 2016, 06:38:23 AM
I didnt had found till the moment no one that had made profit gambling, atleast a significant profit, that means risk something like 1 bitcoin and have atleast 2 bitcoin from gambling, since the odds are big at gambling. We all know that these is more a dream than a reality to be able to wint big prizes risking low ammounts, even being possible, its the hardest thing to try.
No one? That's not true, in this world there's a lot of gambling games and there are gambling that is skilled based games where I believe more gambler are getting richer while the losers are getting poorer. Regardless of the chances, we still have the chance to win in gambling and that was proven by those lottery winners.
Some got rich but most of the gamblers are losers, if you will compared the loses to the winner you can maybe arrived of the total gamblers less that 1% are winners in the long run, so if you are a businessman who operates a gambling house, it's an opportunity for you to grow your money faster.
Youre calculations are true regarding on the ratio between lossers and winners on gambling field. In the reality of gambling everyone really losses on the long run that's why I don't tend to play gambling for more hours because I knew already what circumtances might happen when I do tend to play even more. If I gain already profits then that's the time  I should stop and don't proceed even more because there are many times I tend to play for more profits but  sadly those winning and  my capital is vanished on an instant.
8584  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe that win in gambling is depending on your luck ? on: November 26, 2016, 05:50:51 AM
I don't know if it's luck or fate or the stars align but we all go through phases when one seems stoppable, entering a zone like in many sports where you can do no wrong. I think this also applies to gambling, sometimes you are just so focused and calling all shots and making all the right decisions that you think you are god. That's when you lose all your money haha!

Gambling is for entertainment purposes only and it's awesome at that, but if you want to make it something else you are gonna cry. Bet what you can afford to lose and have some fun.
but to me gambling is not for entertainment purpose, to me gambling is for making money only, as to me there is no entertainment in gambling if no money is involve there, and you can enjoy gambling in one case and that is that if you are making money in gambling and if you are losing money then you cannot enjoy gambling.
maybe we have different opinion about gambling because for me also gambling is for entertainment only and just to have some fun activity. im not such a high profile gambler im just an ordinary person who just like to have fun when stressed in work. my wife and i currently gambling in our house and were having such a good bonding with that.
Doing gambling isnt bad after all as long you didnt compromise your money on doing it. Its a very rare situation on where you do both gambling together with your wife.I hope i could do the same thing too especially on vacant times. Winning on gambling does really rely on luck in able for you to win.

Gambling is not really a bad thing because its just built for entertainment but theres a money involve when you try to play with it. Gambling thus really need luck in able to win because if you don't have it you will eventually lose up.We should really use  extra money on doing gambling so that we wont be broke in the end because playing  for longer  times on gambling is not a good idea because most of players will surely lose.
8585  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling loses and wins on: November 26, 2016, 05:14:07 AM

I do not know the exact number of wins and defeats me in gambling, but the exact amount of my loss greater than victory. I often bet on sports betting and sometimes also on the dice. But I gambled in small quantities and with restrictions, so I always deposited some bitcoin for gambling usually around 0:06 BTC and that I use for some games. And if the result I would not bet again.
yes i also do not know that the actual number winning or loosing games but still i can say that i have lost more than the games in which i make money, so my loosing percentage is more that my gaining percentage.

It is not only you but most of the gamblers will have same results because these results are based on luck and luck will come only sometimes to players. Who knows this fact they will not chase winnings in gambling instead just play for fun sometimes and enjoy these games.
you're probably right we dont know when luck will come on us . may be to reduce losing our money we can start with a low amount of bet then make it higher when you're winning and why gambling if you can make a profit to investing in gambling sites bankroll ? anyone knows how to make profit from gambling lol haha maybe those who become rich in gambling because of their lucks
We wont really know on when luck will be on our side and you are right why keep bothering on playing gambling since its better to invest money on the house itself rather than playing on it. Gambling without losses is impossible because its already a part of gambling there are winners and there are lossers. Luck is a big factor  to make money on gambling because if you haven't then expect losses .
8586  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How work Fibonacci strategy? on: November 26, 2016, 03:25:13 AM
Hello.

When it was my first week gambling(online/real-world) I spent hours and hours looking for strategies. What I've learned from experience is never play long. Do 5-20 minutes. Either go big or go home.

-jamyr

P.S.

These are words I write, but cannot live with. Sad
Theres no strategy exist when you do play gambling  especially when you play on games which fully relies on luck. Playing  long hours on gambling is not an ideal thing because most gamblers do lose on the long run that's why its not ideal to play on longer hours. You wrote it but you cant live with it then you are sure a gambling addict. Smiley

Back to topic. didn't heard about fibonnacci strategy that is being used on gambling I do only hear that on forex tradings.
8587  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling crying thread on: November 26, 2016, 02:49:44 AM
I dont know how much money i had lost over the online potencial earnings, with that said, i do believe i had lost something like 1500 euros, and the last year i had lost near 1 bitcoin at bad investments, lesson learned and no regrets, what is done is done.

that amount is too big for me and i don't have that big amount. i don't count it how much my loss in gambling because i don't expect in anything when i am playing gambling. if i can win, then i will be happy, and if i can not win then its fine for me. but for losing in that amount, i will be regret it for the rest of my life.
There are really people who could able to risk huge amounts of money just to satisfy their cravings on playing gambling that's why they lost a lot of money in the end and for some people those amounts already huge which they cant afford to loose it but well its his money and  we cant do anything about it. Maybe hes rich enough or just dumb enough to lose that amount. In my side I cant afford to lose up that amount too.
8588  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: November 24, 2016, 04:59:20 PM
Stopping with gambling is not easy but its possible without any doubts, its just that you have to set your mind on it and keep believing in yourself stay reminding yourself to it!
It's easy to stop when your problem is not too big, the more you can stop early the better. All in our life is just sort of gamble because the future is uncertain but when we are making a decision that we like to make money on the hardest game in the world which is gambling, I think that's too risky and stupid for some people who does not have a qualifying skills to succeed, and this would result to bigger problem.

Yes,its easy when you can still in control of the situation. Also, it is still your determination and WILL to stop that you can make such decission. It is better to stop while you are not still incurring big debts  and a habitual gambler.

indeed. if you're already at that point where a lot of things has been compromised already and you're too broke and in debt, most likely you would depend now on gambling again to try to redeem yourself which is most of the time the reason why people ruin their lives. being able to manage your time, money and emotions when gambling would be a good gauge if you can still continue. if you cannot control yourself over these things then gambling is not for you. also having a strong ties with your family, friends and having a good social life would be a big help if you're in the process of trying to quit
Why wont bother to gamble if you already know that  you are not good at it from the start? If we don't like to suffer uncertain things then you should quit as early as possible to prevent it from happening into you. Being hooked by gambling addiction is really hard because many things will got compromised not only on financial things but also to the relations to those persons around you.If you don't like that then Stop completely and no turning back.
8589  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: November 24, 2016, 04:16:28 PM
My limit is when I hit the rock bottom (0) so technically I dont know when to stop lol

and unfortunately that would also be the case for most gamblers. though some are even more addicted as they don't stop even if they don't have any means anymore. they try to find ways to keep their gambling routine and more likely than not it affects their personal life. when you gamble, i think this is one of the most important things that gamblers should consider, when it would be time to stop and leave. it shouldn't even get to the point that you would be left broke. there should be a limit to how much you would spend when you play and it should be strictly followed
Putting limits on your fund will be the best and important thing to be considered when you do tend to play gambling because this will be the first to be affected when you do gamble. You will really need money in able to play and if you didn't use it wisely for sure problem will arise that's why we should make partitions on our money, if its lend to gambling only and don't compromise the money that already budgeted on your needs and expenses then you will be safe.
8590  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Can other cryptocurrency ovetake bitcoin inthe future? on: November 24, 2016, 03:12:59 PM
I think that even if some altcoin will get bigger adoption than BTC in rl, BTC will still remain the main currency fot trading...
Over hundred shitcoin was getting die and that can become an evidence for us about the position of bitcoin. However with the future development of shitcoin with various features, the bitcoin had had his chair and crown.

Every traders was changing his alt into the btc at the end of his day trading.
This thing have been doing on most  traders on which they trade alts but in the end they still exchange it to bitcoin because  btc has more value compare to those alts and also they are somehow dependent to bitcoin.I really believe even how those altcoins such have unique feature its still impossible to replace bitcoin to its place because its the father of all crypto but no one knows really if some coins is much more better to bitcoin on the near future.
8591  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling crying thread on: November 24, 2016, 02:03:28 PM
Cry i've lost .2 bitcoins today in poker. because of greediness it led me up to losing. i wish i could bring back my money. its so hard to get that money this days. maybe i would start to quit gambling and play sometimes with a lowbet amount and put some target. but even i have a target when iloss too much i would still play to bring that back .
Hahaha nice shot that you are lose 0.2bitcoins today and hoping that soon you will get them back and don't make it rush everything happened for a reason and let's get some rest and you learn your lesson now don't be greedy when you are in gambling you know the consenquenses.
Its not really an ideal thing to chase your lose and its not recommendable to do such thing because you will definitely lose even more for sure. Better to forget on what amount you have been lost in the past and  start a new day with a new betting style and for sure you will already know your past mistakes and you will not  do it again on next games.Greediness will surely lead you to lose because betting styles will be distracted.
8592  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What Is Bitcoin Trading and Why It's risky? on: November 24, 2016, 11:49:41 AM
no risk - no profit  Wink 
Basiccaly risk and profit are directly proportional on trading and on trading we can manage the risk and we can manage the profit too,  everything depend on the system of trading that be made by the traders them selves. If the traders doesn't have it, the trading will become more high risk.
Yes, risk and profit are directly proportion, if you are taking much risk your percentage of profit increase, to me I think risk is involve in all kind of trading and there is not a sing  trading where no risk is involve.

If you want to make money you have to take risk, without facing it you cannot make money, in trading you can reduce your risk of making money if you have some good experience and skill of trading.
All investments do really have risk and trading is not excluded on that because its already an investment which you will definitely put up money to gain money because if you don't put risk on it  you will not earn something same as you mentioned too. Experience does really matter to be profitable on trading  and which really helps to lessen to risk compared on trading blindly.
8593  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: November 23, 2016, 03:03:33 PM
One stops gambling when they don’t have money anymore. Me, I stop gambling when I realized it is not me. I am not the type of person who will risk my hard earned money just by luck. I tried it still, but on the second time I managed to stop because I realized it is not me. I realized there are still other ways to improve my life and to save money. If you don't have enough money in your pocket better to stop before your bet something that will ruin your life.
You will not know when to stop when you do not have a good plan to stop. You are right, you will only stop when you bankroll is wipe out and that's common to us gamblers who does not have enough bankroll to gamble. We mostly rely on our luck and we just set up a new bankroll on a daily basis if we play daily.

That is our mindset , we tend to keep on playing and gambling if we still have something in our pockets, wallets , bank accounts and even from our parents. But if you will experience to have nothing then for sure that is the best reason to know that you really must stop. Because how can you sustain your addiction if you don't have something.

That's why we have to learn our self control which many gamblers doesn't have that skills/attitude. Well for some of those people who experienced their downfall in gambling are the ones who learned to stop learn from them.

when to stop gambling? much better to stop as early as now. there's no such thing as  limits. don't wait till you run out of anything. I'd been there before. I even almost lost my family. so quit as early as now.  Smiley

There's no problem if you wanted to stop now it is just going to depend on how gambling really affects your life. So if that is severe and your life is being wrecked for the whole time by gambling because of your negligence and not capable of controlling your own emotion. And your situation is really that severe so you must really stop as early as today.
If you are a sensible person you would really not tend to let that thing happen to you and for sure you will stop eventually on gambling because you already know on what would happen on the long run. We could really sense it when we do play gambling if we keep losing at the first place then stop and don't intend to play again. This way would really save you up.
8594  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Biggest Loss Ever. on: November 23, 2016, 02:20:57 PM
Mine is 0.1 bitcoin in a split second, I played in one dice site, i planned to bet 0.01 but accidentally press the max button and it directly bet all of my bankroll, the other time was, i bet 0.1 in sport betting during the match, and in the last minute i add my bet and in that same minute the opponent score a goal, then i lost all my bet
Sad to hear that kind of situation because I do know the feeling of this kind of scenario on which accidents on betting do really happen sometimes because of our carelessness which really leads to more lose.I do also bet on dice sites and  I accidentally press the max bet and didn't notice it and I realize already when it was already rolling and the set odds are 20x multiplier which is really a total lose.
8595  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Will ZECD and LSK goinf to pump again? on: November 23, 2016, 01:42:29 PM
i am going to leave you some advice, it is more like take it or leave it Smiley

- stop trading on Yobit, it is a bad exchange with bad support, dead wallets, no volume and fake volume which is worse. and many other problems.

- learn what stop loss means. and try to use it when you buy something.

- try to buy in a dip not when price is falling.

- and to be specific to your question, it is hard to say if ZECD or LISK will go up or not but my guess is that they are not because of two reasons: people are not interested in them to buy and also bitcoin price has been rising which creates a dump situation in altcoin markets.
This is the best advice and these things im also gonna say too. Trading on yobit is not bad at all as long you didn't choose the wrong altcoin because for sure you will lose those money you invest on that particular coin.If you bought a coin on decreasing state then for sure you will wait  a long time to recover your loss unless if the coin has a good potential to rise up on the future but if not then say goodbye to your money and hold those dead coins on your wallet.
8596  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How to make 1 bitcoin in a month or 2? on: November 23, 2016, 12:26:35 PM
If a person is acquiring an exceptional skills on crypto or in cyberworld, 1 bitcoin is just a piece of crap to earn. The best example here is the ICO or crowdfunding, if you have some brilliant idea about crypto, then do some coin and present to all what is specification of it.  Then let people fund your works and earn some bucks easily. I hoped acquired that knowledge too. Grin

Yes this skills would really give you decent amounts of money hence this kind of skills is really an edge to everybody. If you are a  developer or creator a certain coin which  do have unique features compared to other coins then maybe  you could able to get big investors then 1 to 2 btc is like a dust actually but sadly we dont have these kind of skills. We are hoping the same thing too. Smiley

Why not just work in real life if you do have those type of skills. I knew some people who are earning even as high as 5 bitcoins monthly converted to dollar. What they are doing is they do have their regular full time job mostly pays them 2 bitcoins monthly. And upon having some sidelines or part time jobs they are working also as freelance and that makes add to make it 5 bitcoins but that is only for project based.
If i do have kind of skills i will sure work offline and online  because i  know that earning bitcoin or fiat money will be decent enough.You are right salary would really be big compare to those ordinary jobs which is not related to programming and developing.Earning 2 bitcoins is really possible but for those people only have skills but for those people have only average skills we should not let our selves down because theres a lot of oppotunities to make money.

You just need proper time management for it. So if you are working for offline or in a company and you are able to earn decent fiat for your salary. Because working at the same time is not that an easy thing, but if you do have excellent time management skills then for every single hour that you work will help you to reach the goal of 2 bitcoins per month.
Proper time management would be really needed if you are intending to do both jobs in online and in offline.Yes,its not really an easy thing to handle both because it really requires time and effort in able to earn on both world.I agree to those who said that programming and developing skills have the edge amongst others. In my situation now 1 btc is hard to earn even on 3 months but if you work offline its possible to get on 2 months.
8597  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you play Dice with Autobet? on: November 23, 2016, 06:08:35 AM
Yes i do used auto bet, because if i am not using auto bet it will be boring to keep on clicking the button, when i used autobet the most important is to pay attention to your bankroll, although i used auto bet to play but i always keep my eyes on the game so i can know when to stop my bet, because i know that if i keep on using autobet i will be lose no matter what strategy i used, so i need to make it stop at one point to make profit
i was a big fan of dice game few years ago , but not for nowadays.

i have a very bad experience gamble on dice , used autobet with bankroll 200mbtc at primedice i set a low base bet with martingale in there. guess how long i can survive play dice with that autobet setting? less than 20minutes , since that time i hate to play a dice game.
Sad to hear about your loss man regarding on playing on dice sites.We really cant rely to much on some strategies that we do know in the past on which most gamblers  say about that like martingale and others stuffs because they wont work after all. 0.2 btc is already big bankroll but still it would wipe out if you suffer  long losing streaks even on the lowest bet amount.
8598  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you play Dice with Autobet? on: November 22, 2016, 04:12:18 PM
Do you play dice manually, using autobet or third party bot?
If you play using built in autobet what features options you consider most important?
Real gamblers play dice manually. It's quite hard to say that you're a good gambler if you just use autobet and leave it running on your computer. I play dice manually but I do multiply my bets most of the time and change the multiplier when I want to.

I would say that the most important part of the autobet system is the "amount increase at lose by x%" because that determines how quickly would your bet go from, for say, 20 sats to 20000 sats. The multiplier should be calculated by these. The return when you win should recover your past losses. My base bet always depend on how much bankroll I have.
Im not really fan of  playing dice on autobets unless if  im in front of the pc then I usually set the odds,multipliers and number of rolls its still fine as long im awared on the results compared on  leaving it blindly because if theres a losing streak I can manually stop it and lessen the  loss amount. I do agree with you most  gamblers  do manual playing  compared on autobets it quiet risky for me.
8599  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's your dice strategy? on: November 22, 2016, 03:43:04 PM
Again and again, a new thread for dice strategy that will only lead to more spams on this forum. Didn't you try to do a search for this kind of discussion? There are too many similar threads, go over there and you will find what strategies shared by most people on this forum.
Correct, there are many kind of threads like this and OP should really search off rather than creating another thread regarding on playing dice sites.Back to topic I do play dice on normal ways theres no strategies attached because im done on those so called techniques mentioned by other  ex. maringale, reversed martingale, dice bots and scripts. They don't  work for me at all that's why I don't  bother already. Just play casually with 2x multiplier.
8600  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit Gambling for Good, think for your loved ones on: November 22, 2016, 03:21:38 PM
Gambling is not that bad, relax.

Fixed for you : "Gambling isn't that bad until you lose everything, betrayed/hated by your loved ones and become poor, so just relax." Roll Eyes

It is not even relaxing when we are experiencing these type of problems as we gamble. And besides before these incidents happen, let's just be serious to it that we need to stop the root cause for the sake of our love ones. There are a lot of families that quarreling because of one member of the family who are addicted in gambling.
Many would really got affected especially when you are the ones get addicted into gambling. YOur family loves you and they wont let that problems would gone worst in into you. If you love them  then its better  to leave gambling or quit it for the sake of  your family because if you continue such addiction may  unpleasant things that will surely happen  into you. If you don't like that to experience then its better to  quit gambling for good.
A family is called a family when they love each other, meaning they care for each other and they will advise to correct once mistake. If your problem is known to your family, for sure they will help you to quit.

You have to sacrifice something to them also that you will do your best for the good of all.

Yes that is what you call a true family. Especially when they really knew that gambling is your weakness and you can't help yourself but to keep on gambling. For you don't have a capacity to help yourself to quit for real. But if that is really too much and you are not even appreciating their help. And maybe they are the ones who will quit and give up for helping you and they will stop advising you.
When you do have  gambling addictions for sure you will keep this  problem into yourself only and  don't intend to tell anyone regarding on your  problem unless if you are  an  open person to your family then you will surely tell them  but if you are a secretive person you will keep that problem into yourself only and  don't intend to tell them but if  problem will arise then you have no choice but to tell them regarding your problem because your family would really help you.
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