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8941  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ 5% bonus now on: September 13, 2016, 04:50:54 AM
where is ezchange? i bought this and want to trade now

I think ICONOMI  is not currently available on exchanges yet. It is in the ICO stage and once the ICO is over it will surely be listed
in best exchanges.
Indeed, its not  on exchanges as of now since the ICO period is not yet over same as he said, when ICO ends for sure after that  it would come out through exchanges which we could  do trade on our ICONOMI. Im a little bit excited with this event.
8942  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Hello Im new here I like to know the differences in Rank. on: September 11, 2016, 04:24:37 AM
Thank you for the link now im Know it now I need some rank up of my account.Its legal to buy a account here because I have 0.04 btc for now what rank I can buy on that budget.
Account buying is not forbidden by any rule of the forum.
However it is also not recommended... You will buy your account and someone with high rank and a good trust may flag you as a potential scammer or cheater with bought account.
Don't do shortcuts, make your way up and have a good account by your own.
Ah its better to make your account get ranked up by waiting for it thank you for that.

True, its better to rank up your account  and learning new things while  you are ranking   because  if you intend to  buy an account  which you aim for  better  income in signature campaign then it would be still useless since you would be easily kicked on signature campaigns because for sure you would do spam post.
8943  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to collect BTC ?? on: September 11, 2016, 03:55:53 AM
You could start with buying it for fiat but you could build up a decent trading experience too in order to collect profit from it. Once you've an amount of BTC collected, you could invest into cloud mining or into your trading business. There're several exchange sites that help you.
I appreciate your idea but I would not encourage anyone in investing in cloud mining, such industry has a bad reputation because of the scams that is going on by some of the cloud mining businesses who offers investment program. However, I agree that trading is a good idea for start up.

True, cloudmining  websites are just  scams , i really dont believe   on such  sites do promise high returns on your investment and  in the end they would ran all of your money and also to all investors of their website thats why i wouldnt recommend also on  investing on those sites because  i had  some bad experience with it  in the past. Same as  others said  its better  to do trading. You can collect btc on faucets but in small amounts  and time consuming if you dont like  to collect then you could buy for your self just exchange your  fiat  into bitcoin.
8944  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: how to join a signature campaign? on: September 11, 2016, 02:50:18 AM
im interested in joining a sig campaign.. how am i able to join? can u pls help me with this? im still new in here and i want to earn some bits.. thanks! Smiley

You could actually join signature campaigns since there are some accepting newbies as of now like 777coin and bitvest same as other said but first thing to consider that you  must   make you account do good quality post so that you would   not have a hard time on  joining one of those signature campaigns since  quality post is the main  factor which  you would be accepted.
8945  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk hacked and data for sale on dark web? on: September 11, 2016, 02:47:24 AM
Those datas are from one year old hack, so if you haven't opened account before than nothing to worry about. And even possibility of anyone gonna know your real password out of that sha256 encrypted passwords is really low. However changing password if you are in list of those hack accounts is always advised.
So this is not a second one? I heard there was one last year and then there are ddos attack just two days ago and yesterday. So I thought this was a new set of mined data from this new hack job during those attacks.

Thats what im thinking too that Database  is new and  on the latest hacking  of bitcointalk website.  I do experience website down for how many hours which is  unusual since i didnt  experience in the past and  luckily i read this topic regarding of DDos  of bitcointalk and  database has been for sale  on dark web which is somehow  alarming for us users here in this forum.
8946  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to make money on bitcointalk? on: September 11, 2016, 02:36:00 AM
You can do a signature campaign which has probably already been mentioned. Another idea is try lending bitcoin to others on this forum for a profit. If you have a little to lend, that could make you a little money.
Yes. Crosany is right you can apply in some sigbature campaign find open one and try your luck to apply and if you get in then you can start to read the rules and follow that one so that everything will be fine dont lend some bitcoin if you're not sure how to pay it back because its too risky for ms
Signature campaign is just a start of your journey to earn bitcoin but you do not need to focus it because you can grow here and there are opportunities you can see to use your skills and passion to earn more income than doing signature campaign, you can invest your earning too if you want to grow.

That is right, signature campaigns are just one of the ways on making money here in this forum and there are really lots of  stuff here  that we could make  money on or bitcoin.  Having skills would  be an advantage especially on  services section you would surely make decent amounts of money.
8947  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: how to make money on bitcointalk without campaigns on: September 11, 2016, 02:29:53 AM
If you are really not interested in campaigns, I think you can offer services to earn bitcoins, as there are many jobs available paying you in btc, I suggest you to check out the services section for that.
Not only services section is the place where you can get money or bitcoins without joining in campaigns we have micro earnings here and digital goods where we can sell stiffs online.. also we have altcoin announcement where we can see new releases altcoin that they are giving bounties that you will earn altcoin and exchange them into bitcoin to earn..

Agree, if you dont have skills  that are needed mostly on services section , you could also visit  micro earnings same as others said and  also to give aways  which could also give you some money or bitcoin with it especially on  newly launched altcoins bounties are also good. There are really lots of ways to earn in this forum just have a stroll or search you would surely find them.
If someone dont have any skills and also dont wanna take part in signature campaigns then the only way left to earn money is to wait for the giveaways from different sites or joining altcoins bounty campaigns where you can earn free coins and if you want you can later exchange them to bitcoins.
The chances of getting a give away is very small because most of the members here are also waiting for that opportunity, who does not want free money, right? For us to make money we should learn how to do hard work and try our best to apply for the job offers here.

You have  a point, competition on this forum is really high since we are aiming the same thing which is gaining bitcoin or money. You must keep an eye to those newly launched altcoin so that  you would  be included on bounty program and  be sure to be fast because  competitors are  many as you expected.

True, getting  giveaways  has a little chance to be included on said  event since there are lots of participants also waiting for that moment which it would lessen your chance  if  you dont  go online in this forum to check for new updates. If you have plenty of time then its possible  you would be included on giveaways  and it really depends on your efforts.
8948  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or Gold? What would you pick? on: September 10, 2016, 02:01:33 AM
I will pick first gold between these two. Because gold is  very trusted investment for long time in the  world however nobody knows  what happens to bitcoin after few years.

Gold is somewhat have guarantee to last long since its a natural mineral that can be found on earth which is  really hard  to make it disappear even  on how many years to pass but also to bitcoin  its has also a potential even its a crypto currency that it would increase it price in the future. If i have  much money then  i would choose them both in long term investments.
8949  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way to manage money? on: September 10, 2016, 01:59:14 AM
best way of managing money is investing it becasues if your money is not in form of cash and available to you, they you would not spend it without thinking. that way you have your money put in a good investment and making more money from it but also it is safe and out of your reach to waste.

Investment is an option and can't be considered as ways to manage the money "generally".

Managing the money only covered those money in hand on how will you use it to make enough to cover your daily needs.

The term in investment thing should be "managing the money in investment". It has an own aspect and different from the general term of "managing the money".

Yes investment could be considered as ways on how to grow your money.  And actually it could be also part of the plan on how person will manage his money.  Like he would save some of it and then when he have enough he could buy some stocks or buy some mutual funds as an investment.  And to be able to have savings he need to be really aggressive on where his money goes.  Like having a list of his daily expenses.

This is the best way  on how  you manage your money you must list your daily expenses which you could have always a preference.  more investments and diversify it would surely give you  potential profits which you could also make a saving and  pile  up on long time and build or invest another business. Thats how it goes and continue for sure you would no have problem in financial things.
8950  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin worth to you or not... on: September 10, 2016, 01:48:44 AM
For my the bitcoin is worth it but its stays difficult sometimes to stay believing in it and keep holding it for a long term, due to all these price ups and downs.
Of course the bitcoin is also nice because of this so that is also something that counts, overall its worth it for me.

Bitcoin is worth to all of us as it is helping us in many ways and it also allows us to make some extra money from it, if you feel that holding is risky then you can sell it when price goes higher to avoid the risks.

For me there is no any risk in bitcoin I am using bitcoin from a longer period and I have a good amount of my money in bitcoin and I am satisfied with that bitcoins and I am sure that in the coming future the age of bitcoin will start and with that the price of bitcoin will rise up very high.

I agree with you. Bitcoin is really worth to me and 0 risk for me too. Bitcoin is like my main money for now, because i always using bitcoin everyday and even earn money with bitcoin.

Its not a guarantee that is  0 risk unless if you dont make  any investments then it sure  no risk. Lots of people  are thankful on the existence of bitcoin and  its really worth for us to the convenience it gives and the opportunity to give us extra income thats  why its valuable to all bitcoin users i guess.
8951  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: September 10, 2016, 01:45:06 AM
If I was desperate for money I think that I would try to lend some money from the bank because I do not know what else to think of.
I know that lending money costs you more money in the end but sometimes you do not have a choice.

Exactly, it depends on the situation actually if how much time do you have for getting that money, if you have enough time then you might be able to earn some but if you need them too early and the time you have is not enough for earning then you will have no choice then asking for a loan.

and for te needy people it is much harder to get a loan especially in the condition when he will not have any collateral for to keep with, as everyone have faced a situation of loan default so they now do not trust.

This is  happening on almost people  when they intend  to request loan but the  hard part is  they dont have any strong collateral since they are only just  poor and nothing could be guarantee that why some people  dont have choice but  do illegal things. For me  if  im included on those poor people i would  rather a stable job rather  than  doing illegal things because  you are really need  in money.
8952  Economy / Economics / Re: How would you double $100,000 safely? on: September 10, 2016, 01:40:19 AM
Wait for XMR to crash and buy the dip, then wait for the next pump and you'll double your money.
i don't think xmr would rise much again like before, it will like ethereum after the price spike high then would play at same range price.
yeah no problem to invest in XMR or other altcoin but you should know that investing in altcoin is a risky thing. do not hold your altcoin too long because it will be at risk and do not allocate too much on investment altcoin. you have to set it up and have a plan with it
Right now, investing in XMR for a short term or trading is a good way because the trend is almost predictable, we sometimes see the price fall back hard and then pump again and that only happens in less than an hour and I think if you invest that $100,000 you can safely double that in a month.

Right now he do not need to invest in any altcoin and any scheme, as the price of bitcoin is increase and it itself is a good investment, it is pretty sure that in a few months he will double up his money with bitcoin. so just put them in bitcoin.
It is pretty good to ride with the increasing price of bitcoin now, I am sure it will continue to increase and we can easily make profit in a short span of time, this is the right timing to invest and to double your money easily.

Doubling $100k would not be easy in  bitcoin alone  unless if you intend to do it for long term for sure  it would double  or even triple but if you dont  want to wait  you can just  simply invest it on trading but if your not knowledgeable  on trading its better to hold those  money for long term but it do have also a risk.
8953  Economy / Economics / Re: Loans too risky? on: September 10, 2016, 01:37:44 AM
Loans actually can be very risky, but if you know that you are able to pay it back then it should be no problem at all.
Take only a loan when you need something that is important and if you can pay it back.
If you loan some money of course it is your responsibility to pay it back once you gave the exact date then pay it on the exact time you gave because people are trusting you because you ask a permission to barrow some money and if you can't pay that back then don't make some loan

Yes and it is very hard to realise who is going to pay back and who doesnt so its hard thing to check.
Thats why loans are risky too cause its impossible to know if the person at the other side is going to keep their deal or not so it could turn into a bad scam.
You cannot do a background investigation of your borrowers because they will not provide their real information unlike in physical lending business that there is a KYC policy where we required the borrowers to submit all the necessary documents before we approve and release the loan.

True,  when you decide to make a lending online  it would be really hard to do background check since people online would definitely gave you wrong informations about them because incase if they cant pay the loan amount  they would be safe since its not their true identity that they gave.

Its really up to our decision on which person we should grant  a loan request but still we couldnt guarantee that their true identity is right since we cant really see them  personally but  just  on online only and there are lots of things or ways  to  hide or  deny your true identity.
But it also depends on our selection of the recipient of the loan. Indeed loan higher risk than the other way, because the borrower did not have a strong guarantee and also does not have a strong enough recognition when they are experiencing problems with payments already agreed.
8954  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Gambling addiction a disease? on: September 09, 2016, 05:45:29 AM
I am not really a gambler but I heard about people who can't quit it and keep losing lots of money. Do you think the attitude to gambling addiction should be the same as to drug addiction?
Should the government forbid gambling and treat somehow those who are addicted?
Or maybe it should be left up to an adult? I mean, should people decide on their own whether they need to gamble or not.
What do you think?
If you have self control it will easy for you leave gambling mostly when your lost big amount it will not good to continue after loosing so much money,

Having self control is the most important thing when you  play gambling since if you lack with this discipline you would definitely easily got hooked on gambling addiction which is really a thing that could be  hard to remove in the long run and  possibly wrecked  your own life if you intend to do it in a long   period of time and for sure many would really got affected,
8955  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice To Earn Or For Fun? on: September 09, 2016, 05:33:36 AM
I am playing dice for some few days and earning instead of losing with a new method invented by my self or even if it was invented before I didn't know anything about it I came up with this method by my self, now you think is it right if I keep winning ?

Do any of you guys earning daily  from dice? or you just play for fun and leave it to chance whether you win or lose?

The dice is a kind of gambling so gambling a person to earn at the same time for comfort especially when she was tired . But these days most of the gambling to be able to earn money . Because many people in need and gambling just a way for them to get money easily. And for me to earn more than fun because the gamblers are greedy so sometimes they lose the fun , especially when they are losing .
I think the dice is a game that is not for sure, so I guess all the people who play just see it as a game for fun. but, most likely there are also people who saw it is a way of earning money in a fast way, but it could backfire on those who play it, because it can drain all the money you have. so knowing about it, most people only play when'll have fun

Maybe yes and maybr not but their are strategic several people who earns good profit by spending time on some dice site but its very rare or shall we say hard to earn on some dice site, so maybe people who's staying there for a shortime period maybe spend their time to get some fun feelings or just want theirself to be entertained, but for me i cannot take to have fun with it if i'm gonna lose my hard earned money for this tantrum.

I somewhat heard of people which is profitable on gaining  money on dice which is an unusual  thing for me  because when i  play dice  i usually lost and end up on lossing all my money in the long run which is not entertaining for me anymore same as you said. Some may place dice for entertainment.
8956  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is that also happens in gambling ? Losing his wife in gambling.I am worried >:( on: September 09, 2016, 05:27:29 AM
Man loses wife as stake in IPL gambling;

A man from India put his wife at stake in an IPL betting game and lost her in that game.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kanpur/Man-loses-wife-as-stake-in-IPL-gambling/articleshow/52480224.cms

This is quite a shocking news, indeed. Using his own wife as a betting tool for his self-satisfaction of his greed is unacceptable. I can't believe people would actually go this far in someone's limits.

True, me myself cant even  believe on this matter  that such person do bet or risk his wife to satisfy his addiction which is  a really crazy thing to do on someones wife.  If  i were that man i would never  risk my beautiful wife to just give into others. lol. There would be a blood first before they got my wife.
8957  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: September 09, 2016, 05:22:12 AM
no absolutely not. trading is not a gambling it is a sacrad prfession. trading is the core of every society. socities and states are run of trading while gambling is quite opposite.
nah trading is like gambling because you take the risk of losing money too but in trading the difference between that too is in trading you can easily grow your bitcoin there depends on the alt coin you are going to trade with and in gambling your playing your money where theres a big chance of losing it.

They are the same in terms of having both risk on  lossing on your  money but in trading you could do smart trade which could possible give  you profits  and  you could minimize the risk  it depend on your skills and luck also because  in trading you need also luck.  Gambling is just a pure luck game but not  all some may need skills and experience like poker and  sports betting.
8958  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: lost my all money on BITSLER on: September 09, 2016, 05:19:30 AM
i want to suicide i just lost 1.1 btc on this shitty rigged site called bitsler i need fast advice guys i feel shit right now

You should know already what would possibly happen on your money when you intend to  play gambling and  thats the risk on lossing all your money. As i saw on your betting style you becoming  greedy in the end and decide to bet 0.5   directly hoping to win back directly your losses which is really goes on opposite way. Dont do suicide since its just  money after all and 1.1 btc is too small to do suicide.lol
8959  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: September 09, 2016, 04:58:43 AM
i think there is no better way in quitting it, than just making yourself some target.
For example, today you are not going to lose more than 10$. Next day only 5$. etc,etc and you will get well.
I completely disagree. There is a way to quit gambling for good. It doesn't matter if you don't win now or whatnot, but there is a way.
First off is to know and realize that you have a problem with gambling, and accept that fact. If so, then you can easily move to the next, which is that to try to use ALL of your free time into anything else but gambling. Make yourself busy to the fact that you won't even have time to gamble. If that's a problem, then don't be afraid to ask for external help. Rehab centers are best for these because they exist for this very reason.

yes i agree with you sir. without accept it we can not found a way to quit gambling. first, you need help from your family, then you your friends. but i don't think that rehab centers is available in every city. so maybe first thing is your family need to know.

On quitting gambling  you must  first be sincere  to yourself  that you would like to quit but if  you cant do it then thats the time that you seek for help with your  family since they are the ones who would really help you at first. I agree rehab centres are not  available on each city or place and also its quitely costly i guess.
8960  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A teen is given $1K to invest into Bitcoin - what would you recommend for them? on: September 08, 2016, 04:56:15 AM
Let's say a young teenager is given some coming-of-age money from their family, and is interested in growing that money through Bitcoin. Without encouraging him/her to invest in risky strategies, what are some lower risk methods of growing a Bitcoin portfolio with a hypothetical gift of $1K?
in my opinion he is brand new user of bitcoin  and i also think he didn't want play with btc so i will suggest you to say him tha he should buy and hold btc for some months and then sell after the prices increases .

Agree its better to hold than to  spend it without any knowledge since you would definitely lost those  bitcoins in no time and  its a bad thing that you cant even make money  with it. Its better to hold for longer years or months  which you can possibly   gain decent profits when bitcoin prices would go  or rise up.
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