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8721  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to make a good amount with 0.01BTC? on: October 24, 2016, 01:54:44 PM
There is a way to earn 0.01 but it need a lot of bankroll and it is very risky, if you got that momey to play you can try to bet 0.1 btc with 90 % chance of winning and if you are losing then you need to bet 1.1 btc to cover the lost, so wvery lost you need to 1100% from your previous bet

its better if he bet it all in YOLO bet, and take chances, since 90% odds will only bring dust and his bankroll will lose more in the long run

90% odds would  do  in the safe side  but when  the chances  failed you  would  surely lose up  big  on your  bankroll and thats the  time  you would chase  up your   losses again and again. No matter  how  big  is your   bankroll  but  on this  method  it would not work anytime.

Agree with this,  if  you  think that  90% would  somehow assure  your self to make   profits then  think again twice because  if you fully rely with this way  then  you would  definitely suffer  more lose. Building  up the profits  on  90% chance would  do  but  if   you  lose  once then say goodbye.
8722  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: New to alt coin trading, Help on: October 24, 2016, 01:53:23 PM
Try to select only those altcoins which will have reliable and known developers and will have a good number of investment and will have a good volume of trade.

Yeah these features are most affecting the value of any altcoin, coins with that features will have good potential to increase in value in the future so any person who will have investment in that coin will not be disappointed and will earn a good profit in the future when the value will increase.
not forever the alt coins are having a reliable developer will having the happy ending, maybe there are a lot of example like that. I think too difficult just considering about their developer. and there is no guarantee about your profit if choosing the altcoins with the reliable development.

But if the developers disclose their identity and they share all their activity with public so we will be able to know that how much they can struggle for their coin and how much they are reliable and by showing their identity they will not commit to scam people.

knowing the identity of the developers doesn't guarantee the safety of the coin and it certainly does not guarantee you not to lose money when you invest in them. as an example you can take a look at ethereum that we all know the identity of the main developer Vitalik B. but we all know how manipulated and scammy that coins really is and it has caused a lot of pump and dumps and losses for many people.

That is right. But if you know the identity of the developers, you can know their traack record and find a good one.

No matter how you tract a  good developer  but still the  situation  of  manipulated  dumps and  pumps are still there. As  other members said here  knowing the identity of   the devs  of a certain coins would  not   give you assurance anytime that you  could  able to make profits of  such coins.
8723  Economy / Economics / Re: How many BTC will make you a fiat millionaire in 5 years? on: October 24, 2016, 01:44:47 PM
I have voted for 100-500 bitcoins but i see many people voted for over 1000BTC because it depends on currency of that particular country.
But according to currency in my country you will be a millionarie for sure even with 2-3 bitcoins specially after 5 years when price of bitcoin would be more.
I will also go for the same amount as yours. Actually if I could get that amount, even before 5 years I can be very sure that I will use it for diversed investments that can yield very big returns for me which make me a big fiat millionaire.

How I wish someone can just say take 500 bitcoins since that what you voted for, it will be like is this a magic or am I am just dreaming.

You are  just   dreaming though, who  would  able  to posses  such   amount of bitcoin as you mentioned  if you  have then for sure you would be really a  millionaire  in  upcoming  5 years, hence we  already  know  that  bitcoin would surely increase its  price  on those  years  but the question is  how  much bitcoin  do you able to save up.?
8724  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Safe Wallet Options on: October 24, 2016, 01:39:56 PM
Keeping your bitcoin in an online wallet is not a problem but if the amount of bitcoin you have is very big, it is advisable that you keep some in your desktop wallet in the event the online wallet hacked or goes offline, you can be sure you will not loose everything. Online wallets are good for being used as hot wallet with small amount of bitcoins for daily use.

Very true, online wallets are good  only if you only store  small amounts of bitcoin  only because  its somehow risky when you  tend to  put  huge volumes of bitcoin same as  you said  if they would go  offline  or getting  hacked you would surely lose  up all your money  in an instant thats why  its better to use  desktop or hardware wallets  though.
8725  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin replaces the money? Could happen? on: October 23, 2016, 08:01:35 AM
I think bitcoin is a money too so? how bitcoin replaces money hmm?? it's still a money :3
Haha yea right bitcoin is a money itslelf.It is a currency and has a value in market and can be used to buy many things online so bitcoin being itself money and there are many forms of money as fiat currency paper money and i think any form of money cannot replace each other.

Bitcoin couldnt really replace  fiat money  anytime soon  since  bitcoin is  only  good  on  online transaction  or on other  physical  purchases which uses  a  physical bitcoin but still people would prefer to  use  up paper currency  hence this is  being used  for how many years    by  people all  over the world and  as we all now that bitcoins adoption is not really  there   to consider this things.
8726  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: In gambling, Money is more important than knowledge and luck on: October 22, 2016, 03:40:48 AM
I could really say that  money  would  be the most  important  but  it would really need  luck  in able to win though because  even how  big your  bankroll is  , if you dont have  luck  your  money  would  surely lost all in the end . If you  have luck  but  dont have  money  then  it would be also  useless though,. You  would really  need  these  two thing when you intend to  play gambling.
8727  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: >>> PUMP WATCH <<< on: October 22, 2016, 03:38:14 AM
I dont really see this thread would  be  usefull at all because  we  wont  know coins  when they would  pump unless if they are  manipulated and  for sure  someones  gonna  post  their coins so that  new users  would directly  buy it and  would   only  waste their money for sure.
8728  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: LTC 4$ is good time to buy ? on: October 22, 2016, 03:19:58 AM
I would be careful with litecoin. The coin itself was an great asset but even with the plans that are announced I don't see real innovation to be honest.
It's just a b altcoin, which we have a lot of.

The litecoin development is quite slow. There is little community support for that. That is due to the factor it is ASIC mining now.

I could really definitely say that   litecoin development  is  very slow but still they are   listed and known  to be  included on  top  alts  because its already 5 years old  already , one thing i could  notice is  they  dont really put  up too much  effort on  marketing their coin.thats why.
8729  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Zcash GPU miner on: October 22, 2016, 03:18:04 AM
Some good soul could tell me what is the best Linux for mining Zcash, or any can be used?
Makes no difference, it will be more dependant on your CPU/GFX

correct , there would be no difference at all  because all  alt mining would somehow  depend on  either ASIC, CPU or GPU mining  and its doesnt  really matter  on  which  OS  do you  use.  I really dont  know as  of  now  on how  to mine zcash after all and  i already heread about it  on genesis.
8730  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to make an ESCROW? on: October 22, 2016, 03:13:00 AM
What are the things to consider? to be and make an ESCROW?
For Becoming an Escrow Firstly You Need to Gain Some Trust In this Forum And Also You Need to Grow Your Rank in this Forum.....
Only Then You can Make An Escrow and Always Be a Good Human Being Never Cheat Anyone.....

I think starting from Sr rank before you can handle escrow? But more than that, you must be reputable and trusted enough. As what other forumers here say, it takes years to build a trust. Even they are reputable,I think there still cases that they are tempted with money.

Senior member  would  be the best time  to build up your trust  when you are tending  to be an escrow and  same as  others said  building  trust wouldnt  be that easy because  it would really takes time  to build trust  and  be  reputable enough on  the forum. As you said  money temptation  are  there always  but it really depends on the  escrows on how they avoid those  temptations.
8731  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which Altcoins Are Not Traceable By Governments on: October 22, 2016, 03:10:13 AM
Why would a government trace an Average Joe's crypto activity. i mean there are a lot of more important stuff to do for them

there are tons of average joes who skimp on their taxes, don't pay child support, buy drugs, buy guns and on and on. governments chase millions of average joes every single day. prisons are filled with average joes.

Correct and a  very  precise answer though average joe could   do anything about their money  on  using bitcoin. Thats why  its really important for  government to trace them  up to lessen the  rate but as we all know  bitcoin is  anonymous and   other alts  which are being used on  illegal things thats  why  its really hard to trace them up.
8732  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Looking for an High Paying Signature Campaign? Join CEAL Campaign on: October 22, 2016, 03:05:24 AM
Just want to  ask  if its already ICO period now?  And also  on  what would be the possible  price of  it  when it launch? So that we would have the idea  on investing  on this  project if  it has  a good  potential. How can we  know  if  its  the most  high paying  signature campaign if we dont  know  whats its value regarding  on  payrates. thanks
8733  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin better or paypal? on: October 22, 2016, 02:59:28 AM
very honestly i have no idea about Paypal actually i have never use it and have no account in it, i have heard from my friends that paypal service is regional and not universal, ans it is also banned in some countries therefore to me bitcoin is too good from paypal as because bitcoin is a universal currency and you can find its service in all over the world, and i think the number of bitcoin users will also be more than the users of paypal
I tell you that its more good to use bitcoin. paypal is hard to use than bitcoin for me bitcoin is easy to use and dont need to verify with your creditcard.. unlike paypal. so bitcoin is more good for me to use..
i agree with you that bitcoin is much more good than paypal and i never use paypal because paypal is not available in everywhere so i use bitcoin because bitcoin is available in everywhere and bitcoin transaction is very fast and secure than paypal.

If you make a statement about Bitcoin being better than PayPal, then at least make sure you have used PayPal before in order to make a right and fair comparison. I can also say that Bitcoin is by far better than Perfect Money while I never used PM before, but that wouldn't make sense.

Right, if you're not used something then better don't compare it with other things. I have used both and using Paypal from many years, and I like both of them because both got different advantages. Paypal is safer to buy online with some unknown person without using any escrow because PayPal got buyer protection feature. Nut in case of bitcoin if you want buy from some unknown person then you should really on escrow and it may delay your transactions.
That's true, the experience really differs a lot and the person who can share their thoughts are those who already experience using bitcoin and paypal. The way I see it, paypal is beneficial to those who work online as freelancers and those who want to transact does not want to be anonymous.


Thats the  beauty of  using  paypal  when you  like  to meet and know between users  but the fees are   huge even on transfers only. Bitcoin users  would  really said  some  experience and thoughts  regarding between the two things because you could really differentiate them  regarding on their accesibility and   benefits.
8734  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: eastshore.xyz on: October 20, 2016, 03:29:48 AM
Never heard about them before and seem in business for many years haven't checked but they have give full physical address to them you can verify them by contacting via their whatsapp number i have seen it on their footer area.

I think https://enshop.bitmain.com/product.htm can be trusted with buying mining devices as many do and bitmain is trusted name to many, however i haven't bought any mining devices yet because of high elctricity cost here.

thank you for reply but i buy baikal miner.
And why are not wanna for buying the baikal miner in their main store or site? seems will more be recommended.
http://www.baikalminer.com/ShowProducts.asp?id=466

Its better  to buy on those  recommended sites and  you give the right  one there  pal.  compare on the  op which is  somehow a shady and  unreputable website  also  i notice  on the domain  which  is xyz seems  its a free  for sure  and  owner dont tend to  buy a .com domain.
8735  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: October 20, 2016, 03:17:53 AM
If you can't decide for yourself when to stop in gambling, try bringing a friend with you. Your friend will know when you should stop and stop you. Outsiders have got the clearer vision.

All those things are not a realistic, and one can't implement those ideas very effectively. If you can't stop then is the easiest thing is you should start playing with the limited money which you can afford to lose and don't load more money if you lose it immediately. Just stop for the day and come back after few days to try your luck again if you want.

I think it is easy to determine when to stop. you just have a target so that it's easy and you know when to stop. or when you get a big advantage, then if you keep playing and feel your luck has gone, better stop soon.
controlling our self in the middle of the game is really hard, better to practice this first in a smaller amount and if you see that you know
how to control your emotions and greediness is not eating you up anymore then play bigger one and use that practice for you to able to stop.

playing in  smaller  amounts and  bigger  amounts  would  not  be the same for sure  especially when you are  on  actual game  because betting  on  higher  amounts  would  be   different because  the pressure  is there  unlike  on small amount  because you are  already aware that it doesnt matter if you lose  because   its  only a small amount.
8736  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sell my stocks buy bitcoin... on: October 20, 2016, 03:16:20 AM
Why buying bitcoins right now i dont want to buy bitcoins right now did you see the price of the coin that is to high for real and i am not going to buy
bitcoins for more than 600 dollar lol.

I remember saying the same thing as you, when bitcoin passed $10
I stopped buying because I thought they're getting "too expensive"  lol
Keep that in mind because sometimes 800-1000-1500-2000 might come a lot faster than you think....


We probably  think this  kind of thing  regarding on the current price, we  thought   that its already high amount  but still we  wont know  what would be the price in near future  thats  why  its very unpredictable with this  kind  of situation on bitcoins price thats  why  anytime would be  a best  buy  in terms of  future goals.

8737  Economy / Economics / Re: How would you double $100,000 safely? on: October 20, 2016, 02:56:33 AM
there is no 100% safe way for that, and way i know might take more than one year, so all you have to do is buy bitcoins and wait for their price to rise, then sell them
yeah true what you say that there is no method to grow and double its investment especially safe, everything is at risk. but I think that would not be possible for you to benefit two-fold if you hold bitcoin in just 1 year

Holding your bitcoin on 1 year period  would not still  guarantee you  to double your bitcoins/money. As we  observe on bitcoins price as of  now  its quite stable and   it really moves slowly  and we  cant guarantee that it would reach double amount  on next  1 year period but well we dont  know  what happens on the future.
8738  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: actual number of people using Bitcoin? on: October 20, 2016, 02:54:02 AM
It has to be at least 30 or 40 billion by now. ROFL

I dont  think so that  it already reach this   numbers  on which  people are using bitcoin. For now  im speculating ><2m people  hence  adoption  for now  is still increasing and  for sure  these  numbers would  add  up  in upcoming months and years  but  30-40m would be  impossible   as of today for sure. IMO
8739  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: October 20, 2016, 02:48:16 AM
Yes you can make a lot of money with the bitcoin and the fact is also that long terms are very good for yourself too.
Its very nice to do and its profitable too and you have to do nothing.

If you  do  possess  huge amounts of  bitcoin  then  holding would   be good idea too because you would surely  made  profits on  future  but if you are  just  holding small amounts then its better to invest  those  up  in able to grow rather  just  holding it. Seeing profits on  short terms  are the best  too.
yes in fact investing in bitcoin with a little amount of money is not a wise decision as it cannot give you a good profit even after a long time, therefore to me the if you really interested in long term investment then you should try to invest a good amount of bitcoin.

Investing  lots of bitcoin for  long term  purposes  would really  pay the price  of  the waiting  time  that youve made compare on  just  holding a little amount , its not worth for the wait .  As  i mentioned earlier better  to hold  huge amount so that you could able  to feel the profit.
8740  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin price chart on: October 20, 2016, 02:46:08 AM
Where can I find a price history chart of Bitcoin?


As been mentioned  from previous  post  by members  coindesk would show charts  and there are  lots  this actually. Just  use google though, it would not  hurt  you. Prices  of bitcoins  may differ in any exchanges but the  chart  graph or  movements  would be the same.
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