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8881  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: First month 200euro profits on: September 25, 2016, 02:34:48 AM
I didn't make this topic to show off.

When I am talking about being a newb, I'm talking about the days that i just met bitcoin. I easily fell for scam so that in that matter i lost quite alot of money back then. The last 2 years, ive been trading on bitfinix with smaller amounts. I didn't want to loose money as friends so i dediced to start with a small amount. It didn't grow but also didn't shrink much, untill the hack

By that time i also got involved with reading about gulden. It's based in my home country and there are several reasons why I decide to start using it. For me it is the easy exchanging and clear wallets. I also now use a spreadsheat to keep my notes and orders, which i didn't do before.

Moral is maybe; know where you decide to invest in, because if you know what you're dealing with you'll easier make profits
nicely said mate, the moment you enter the trade you should now what is the basic to avoid losing investment, congrats to you mate and i hope many more success to come your way.

I agree with this, OP doesnt make this topic just  to show of  his  profits  but  he stated about  his  experiences and   hard times  on gaining bitcoin. Trading is  been commonly suggested by almost  users here in this forum but in reality trading is not easy as  it sounds because you would need  knowledge and  analyzing skills  to be  profitable with it and as  you said you would definitely need to tally  or  making some notes in order  to follow your trading pattern.
8882  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: September 24, 2016, 04:41:52 AM
Many people pick both bitcoin and gold, and me too. Both are good and why not pick both if you can pick both. Using bitcoin for investment and currency, for gold, using gold for long term investment, good combination right.
Both are really good, but let us be realistic here, majority of us here does not have the capacity to invest in gold because we are not born rich and that's why we are here because we are hoping that bitcoin can give us fortune, so in short we are only capable on investing with bitcoin.

You are right,  majority of us  doesnt have the capability to invest into  gold since as we all know that  gold is expensive and we  couldnt afford  to buy  huge or bulks amounts of it. In fact in bitcoin we could able to buy small amounts. Regarding in  price increase they both increase its price but in bitcoin does  have an edge since  price movements is seen almost everytime unlike on gold which  its value moves a little  in a period of time.
The expenses in investing gold does not end in the buying transaction, you also need to safeguard your asset and maybe you will buy a safe vault to safe keep your gold and that entails a lot of money as that is prone to robbery if someone detect you have a valuable asset on you.

Security on your gold  holdings  would must be consider also because as you said it is prone to robbery because  gold is  precious  for most people  and  they like  to  get it no matter what. You would  up some expenses  with this matter not only  on buying gold itself but also its security same as you said. Its much better to buy bitcoin if we dont have enough  money to spent  on  gold .
8883  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: September 24, 2016, 04:39:13 AM
Actually i was playing lately and tried all the best way to safe playing in gambling i bet small bets and place high bets when i am sure with the round but the result was really make me feel cry and i lost everything in the end of the game trying to figure it out what will happens if you try to play in smart ways nothings happens just stay away from gambling

You are right  no matter how  smart  you play in gambling the result would be still the same since gambling is  designed that way which is  their players losses  in the long run  while playing in their sites.  Safe methods on gambling doesnt  exist at all  because  theres an house edge  in any gambling site which this thing would surely make you lose.
Its better  to stay away with gambling at all if you dont want to be broke,
8884  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: September 24, 2016, 04:36:29 AM
Just curious since the last discussion I had was about gambling vs trading. I know trading can seem to be a bit of a gamble as well, but I see it a little bit like poker. It's a combination of math and psychology. Maybe not the same ratio though, just generalizing  Tongue
Im never considered that trading is a gambling also . But trading vs. gambling i will probably choose the trading even i can earn cents of bitcoin there and in gambling you could earn more profit there double or triple your bitcoin but not in the way of 100% of course there are chance that you could lose everything
That is an obvious answer for everyone, trading is more on the serious people who want to make money in the long term, gambling is just for fun and you cannot ensure you will make money because the odds always favors the house, they control the game while you are in control when trading.

gambling name is obvious: it is a game.

so you should treat it as a game too . not as an investment to make money and even if you treat it that way you have to test it first to realize that you were wrong before losing a lot of money.

the same goes with trading it is not easy, you should test that too at first to see if it can be profitable for you or not.
We y'all know that gambling is definitely a game , but there are some benefits that came into our life sometimes gambling for me is just a game of fun where i can make profit not daily nor weekly sometimes i get lost but sometimes i really win not that much at least i have a profit and stop playing i know my limits.
Good for you that you able to control your self  when playing gambling since most  of  gamblers or players on it  do became addict and  just  keep playing and playing   and  lossing  all their  money. Trading  and  Gambling  is  two different things even though they have the same  risk on lossing  up your money but in  gambling  you could  not guarantee yourself  to make  profits  in long run unlike in trading  that  you could  get profits when you trade in  smart way.
8885  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice 100% win rate? on: September 24, 2016, 04:31:56 AM
This is gambling in casinos not sports betting. Here it is luck which is all that matters. Getting a 100% win rate is very possible for a very lucky person, but the question is "for how long?" once the player runs out of luck they will lose again. So it is technically not possible to get a 100% win rate since the house edge will make you go bust at some point of time.

100% win rate never happens not even in sports betting. you will end up losing sometime and even if you have a  100% win rate it means you have only been playing for a very short time and you have only a couple of bets.

but yeah there is a better chance of winning in sports betting that there is in playing dice  because of the skills you use there.

There is much different between sportbetting and dice games though because when you play dice you need some luck mean while if you do some sportbetting what you really need is good analyze to guarantee your winning. Btw how can skills does matter in dice games? I dont think that skills have any effect on your result

Sports betting and  dice games are different  even though they are both gambling games. Just like what you  said dice games does  require only luck and  skills are not required to play this thing unlike in sports betting  you could lessen the risk and  adding the winning percentage  by just  having a  good  prediction with your desired team. Well its doesnt even  guarantee you to win  without  luck at all because all gambling games do require luck in able to win.
8886  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I'd like to get some bitcoins. Is now a good time to do so? on: September 24, 2016, 04:27:03 AM
I think if you buy today and hold them for a short period of time, chances are bigger that you will gain a small profit rather than a big loss

we should have to rely on long term holding our bitcoin so that we get the real profit which the investors are getting from years. with long term holding we have the chance to become rich as it is sure that in the coming future the price of bitcoin will increase many folds.

Most of bitcoin holders does have  the same aims and hopes which  on holding their bitcoin  for future  profits  when bitcoins price would reach to its peak. Buying bitcoin as of today isnt bad idea at all  and  we  saw that bitcoin is young  and  have the potential  to increase in upcoming years.   Long term plans would be  good  but we should diversify our coins so that  it would somehow  add our  bitcoin holdings which is more  a good thing to do rahter than putting  all coin on idle.
8887  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The Best Time to Become a Trader on: September 24, 2016, 04:22:31 AM
We can really start into  trading anytime  as much as we want as long we are knowledgeable with this field and  you already have idea because  if you  just rush into this thing without  proper knowledge then for sure  you would  lose your money. Being a  trader is  not easy at all especially we are  battling against price movements of  a certain coin or currency but  the hardworks  on making   positive trading  would  really make  you decent money.
8888  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is earning bitcoin Boring? on: September 24, 2016, 04:18:55 AM
Earning bitcoin isn't different when you're earning fiat, the only difference are you paid in bitcoin and there aren't many jobs option which pay bitcoin.
If you find that earning fiat online is boring, you would find earning bitcoin is boring as well.

Earning  fiat in day job would be somehow  enjoyable  because  you could meet other people  while you are  doing your  job compare on  earning bitcoin which you are only online   on your smartphone or  pc on your  house  which is  actually tiring  especially if you  are doing the same thing again and again  for  everyday. Earning money  is  not easy  and no matter  how boring  it is  , we should not stop and must proceed  in able to  reward our  hardworks.
8889  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If Satoshi reveals himself, what would be of Bitcoin? on: September 24, 2016, 04:15:07 AM
What do you think that will happen once the real Satoshi reveals himself (and proves that he created Bitcoin)? Will Bitcoin ever be the same? Will governments try to pursue Satoshi and put him in jail?

This will be something interesting to know, once it happens (if it ever does) sometime in the future. Please feel free to share your thoughts here.  Smiley


In my own opinion if satoshi  would be caught or   voluntarily surrendered to  authorities then  it would surely impact the reputation of bitcoin all over the world since it would be a big news and everyone would  know regarding on his invention either it would give positive  or negative impact on  bitcoins image into the  people  all over the world.  About the  price i would assume that it wont  somehow  affect it because  bitcoin is  decentralized.
8890  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How can we encourage local businesses to accept BTC? on: September 24, 2016, 04:11:25 AM
It just wont happen at least not any time soon, there is no way right now for local business to accept bitcoin, it doesn't even make sense for them to do it, I don't really see any benefits for them, it's just extra trouble and work for no reason, they can easily lose money just with bitcoin volatility.

This is one  of the reasons why  merchants   do have hindrance on  switching  bitcoin  as  a payment on their  goods and services and thats  because of   price volatility and also  some merchants  on other countries doesnt even heard  about bitcoin at all thats  why  bitcoins adoption on  merchants  is slowly progressing. Well maybe in future when bitcoin adoption  increases  and also the price would increase for sure  it would increase the  sum of merchants would  accept bitcoin as a payment.
8891  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: September 24, 2016, 04:08:09 AM
I love paper money more than anyone else.Yes i love bitcoin alot but any one would love paper money in his hand than bitcoins or any other crypto-currency in this wallet.So i dont think paper money's future will be effected by the bitcoin.You can show the power of paper money anywhere while many doesnt even know about bitcoins.

Strongly  agreed with your statement, people would surely love  to use  fiat money than spending  bitcoin on their pockets  and also paper currency is being used  since in the  beginning of time even how bitcoin would be succesful  in the future  theres no possibility that it would replace  paper currency anytime soon. Bitcoin does also depend  on  paper currency  value , if  fiat would be useless then bitcoin would also be useless too.
8892  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: HOW MUCH YOU EARN/LOSE FROM TRADING on: September 23, 2016, 06:50:20 AM
i think i never think or measure that how much i earn or lose from trading, because there is always a mixed situation some time i make good money other side i book lost so it is not fixed and it is not so easy to tell that how much i earn or lost in trading.

Exactly, and we have the same  situation  since i dont usually count off my  profits  and losses when i do trading , agree there are mix situation which sometimes you forget to tally but for me  i dont mind at all as long  i saw that my money grows somehow when im trading and thats the important thing. With  my trading pattern  i do usually sustain my money and  manage stress when im in the  middle of a decision between selling and  buying ,
8893  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can u lose with gambling? on: September 23, 2016, 06:46:50 AM
You can lose everything if you are not careful about gambling because if you spend to much money then you might end up broke.
Never rely on gambling to make you money because that is wrong and they will let you lose.
Yes indeed we must be careful if you want to use gambling. Self-control is necessary to avoid bankruptcy. But in fact some people gamble just to have fun and do not rely on luck. It does not matter as long as self-control and can manage the expenditure was not a problem.
You are right having a strong self control would bee needed when we intend to play gambling so that we cant be easily overcome by our emotions especially when we are experiencing  lossing  streaks or  huge amount loss already.  We could possibly lose all of our money in playing gambling as  much as we have money and we keep  playing  for longer times and for sure your money would  be gone in an instant without your awareness.
8894  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to make money on bitcointalk? on: September 23, 2016, 06:39:02 AM
OP posted this in 2015, if he would have either joined a signature campaign or would have just posted normally, he would at least be a Sr. Member currently... So, it is useless for us to advice these people who just come, ask and then never come back...
I think its ok because there is other people here are looking for answer so for those newbie they seen this thread it can help also to them..
And they are easily seen this because its bump by updated post here..
And i think many newbies are looking for methods to earn. so this is a good place to read more opinion and suggestion from other how to make money in this forum..

You have a point though, even OP created this thread for long time ago but still it would be useful for  new members since its better to read this  old threads rather than posting a new topic with the same  question at all. Its all the same no matter how OP had  improved or he already knows the way on earning money here in bitcointalk then its a good thing.  Making  money in bitcointalk  is easy especially jsut participating on signature campaigns which is  the most common way  but  not only that  you could also  sell your skills/ services to other which you could also  do  decent amounts with it.
8895  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: September 23, 2016, 06:34:45 AM
Gambling may be good for some people IMHO never found such people but many people here claim to do so. I personally feel that gambling is worng and an individual should not get addicted to it. Most people lose more than what they win at gambling because they are plain greedy and the house edge catches them before they can cash out.

Gambling is  good only for  entertainment purposes which you treat your self sometimes with leisure after a long day of hard work or any thing that you do but  its not advisable to play long enough and  staying on it for how many hours, just like what you said house edge do catch them before they cash out which is very true when you are playing gambling.  Gambling would  be wrong if you are already got addicted into it  and  you are already compromising your money and your family.
8896  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you actively spend your bitcoins? on: September 23, 2016, 06:32:13 AM
I don't spend them, but sometimes I get a good tip for some sports event and do some betting.
Sometimes it doesn't work out and I lose the bitcoin, so thats kind of like spending them, I guess.
You still spend because sports betting is gambling and in gambling we have no assurance whether we will win or not. I know that because I am a gambler myself.

Then make your gambling to a wiser one. Don't play now to those house edge games and focus only on sports betting.

If you still have a losing streak to the point that it deplete your funds then gambling is really not for you.
Bitcoin spend it does not matter if you can manage the expenditure. Because we should not be wasteful and to be able to manage the expenditure. Using bitcoin in gambling was not a problem as long as we still have self-control. If I also spent my bitcoin like gambling and to buy, but it's not often because I prefer to save it.
it is much better to save it and wait for the price to rises up but im also using it for personal expense like paying bills and my loading business since here in our country we can use btc for that such activity.

Agree, saving  up much bitcoin would be a good thing  for future investments and  future profits but  we cant really avoided to spend  some amounts  on our savings since we need to pay or use it on  our bills and other expenses but we must limit our spending  so that we could able to save more  bitcoins.  Same as yours  im using my bitcoin to pay bills, load my mobile  and  purchasing  game credits  which is  available on my local wallet services they offered.
8897  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is earning bitcoin Boring? on: September 23, 2016, 06:20:17 AM
What do you say? Isn't earning bitcoin through the likes of signature campaigns, tweets and posts really boring? I really think so, at least its not an attractive or appealing way to earn bitcoin or any money for that matter.
What do you think? What are the most interesting and appealing ways to earn Bitcoin Online?

I do admit that sometimes  doing these things just to earn bitcoin  is  a little bit boring since you just keep doing  the same thing again and again  but i wont  mind those tiring  times, i usually put  up to my mind that im earning money and just like doing a regular day job which somehow motivate me to keep going without any trouble. Sometimes  when i experience  of little bit sleepy while im doing my job  , i do play a music so that i can continue on my work.
8898  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to tell your Girlfirend about BitcoiN?? on: September 23, 2016, 06:16:53 AM
In my opinion you don't have to tell here about it first let her show what you are getting from it especially the benefits and then things will surely follow like she would going to ask you how did you do it.
good idea show her that you can earn a lot and exchange it to cash then treat her for sure he will ask about how can you do some earnings about btc.

she will ask dude haha not he lol. Well yes and now we are both doing campaign,captcha solving and trading when we have our free time. And i know she is also enjoying it while she ask things it means she gets more interested

Well its depends on what girlfriend do you have since women nowadays  do differ in anyways  like on  their  interest on such thing. If you intend to  tell her  about bitcoin from the start and you saw that  shes quite interested then  you might able to convince her to bitcoin world without any  difficulty but  there are some girls that when you try to explain to her or show  about  bitcoin then  she refused on the first try then better to leave it since those kind of girls dont want  complicated things.
8899  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: how to make money on bitcointalk without campaigns on: September 23, 2016, 06:13:03 AM
I believe that without signature  campaign you probably could earn through  the freelance work or offering goods  and services, check the services section.

Actually if you are going full time in collecting bitcoin, you should always aim for those freelance jobs and your last choice should be signature campaigns and faucets...Cause if you focus too much on signature campaign you will not wake up to the truth that you could earn more outside the forum and in real life, but since we are talking about things that we could do in here to earn, I think those job offerings in the services section are the ones we could rely on without a signature campaign...  Smiley

Exactly, signature campaigns  are just the most common way to earn here since most of people  do participate to earn money without  any skills  needed just a pure post with understandable english grammar and must be constructive. Same as they said  there are lots of ways to earn bitcoin in these forum not only in sig camps   but also  you could sell your skills and  you could also  sell digital stuffs as you want. Just try to go in services section and you would find  what would suits you.
8900  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: FameCoin Signature/Avatar Campaign on: September 21, 2016, 01:32:11 PM
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