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861  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Should there be any age limit of Gambling? on: July 29, 2020, 10:33:17 PM
Having in mind that gambling can cause addiction.and that is dealing with money of course that there should be age limit. Gambling is not suitable for children and teenagers at all and could have bas consequences on their development and phycholgy. Besides setting appropriate age limit it's very important that gambling sites have efficient mechanisms to check if gambling person is under age. From my point of view the lowest limit to access gambling should be 21.

I agree with you that minors have no place on gambling sites. However, there is a big problem here, how to make it so that minors can't register and play in such casinos.
Casinos can of course enter the KYC, but this will alienate many players, and minors can use other people's documents purchased online.
862  Local / Русский (Russian) / Re: 10 лет русскому разделу на форуме. on: July 29, 2020, 10:16:35 PM
Поздравляю русскую локаль с десятилетием! Круглая и запоминающаяся дата! Smiley

Хорошо, что 28 июля 2010 года создали ветку для общения между участниками и обсуждений тем на русском языке. Лично я читаю и англоязычные разделы, но стараюсь по возможности писать в русской локали. В текущем году, к сожалению, ситуация была омрачена тем, что Роскомнадзор весной 2020 года внёс форум Bitcointalk в список запрещённых ресурсов, поэтому для доступа из России теперь приходится использовать VPN-сервисы.

Желаю русской локали, чтобы Роскомнадзор перестал блокировать форум Bitcointalk аналогично тому, как это произошло недавно с мессенджером Telegram. Cool

Тоже поздравляю всех посетителей локали с юбилеем.
Хотелось бы чтобы в Роскомнадзор наконец набрали на руководящие должности тех людей, которые понимали бы всю бессмысленность подобных блокировок, и то что подобными действиями они позорят себя.
863  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is the best welcome offer for you? on: July 29, 2020, 10:11:51 PM

Bonuses are just for luring in people or gambler where they do thought  that they can make big money since they do have much better or big bankroll.Some are aware on the rules or requirement
but majority wont really be expecting that there would be terms that should really be followed but well it isnt really that much a matter because most of them would lose along the way without having
the chance on reaching out the required roll over.Its part of the marketing stuff and these offers would continue to be given out yet the house knows that they are on advantage.

Gambling is played by adults who can account for their actions and understand what their passion for the game is fraught with. If someone does not understand something, it is better for them to avoid the casino altogether and not play gambling games.
Bonuses are needed primarily to attract players from other sites, not to attract people who do not gamble at all.
864  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is the best welcome offer for you? on: July 29, 2020, 09:55:56 PM
A cashback program is definitely attractive for those that have played for a long time on a casino or for those gamblers that know that they have the funds to do so, but for the rest of the gamblers that are the majority this is not an attractive offer, maybe a casino could offer something like free spins to those users as in my opinion it is a better option than welcome bonuses that you need to bet time and time again before you have a chance to make a withdrawal.

Why is cash back not attractive to you? The more money a player bets and plays, the more money they return to their balance. It turns out that the bonus here depends on the size of bets and their number, which is quite rightfully.
Well, you have answered your own question, cashback is not really that useful for me because I am not a whale and I do not gamble with a lot of money so whatever I get as a cashback is not really significant for me, but I can understand why some gamblers may find it as the most desirable offer they can get.

I understand that you are not a whale and do not play for large amounts of money. However, you do not play every time on a new site where you can get new bonuses.
865  Local / Новички / Re: Почему KYC чрезвычайно опасен и бесполезен on: July 29, 2020, 09:38:04 PM
Любой человек, который тратит деньги - платит налоги. Потому что в каждом товаре, в каждой услуге - заложен косвенный налог, который уходит в карман государства. И да, если люди способны сообща решить проблему - то зачем им вообще государство и соответственно, зачем платить налоги?

Конечно, все нарушители законов считают что они имеют на это право по объективным причинам. Вот и те кто налогов совсем не платит считают что они платят их через НДС. Вы один в один как мой сосед по даче)

Согласен с этим. Идентификация не даст гарантий и абсолютно не связана с безопасностью.

Идентификация наоборот может только создать проблемы тем кто её проходит при регистрации на различных биржах.
866  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Physical Casinos Decoded : on: July 29, 2020, 11:35:38 AM
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Dude, you're trying to get everyone to agree. And you do it so that you are right and the others are wrong. There are a lot of people, each of them is a person with their own mind and experience. And everyone can have their own personal opinion, which they adhere to.
Personally, I believe that most things in our lives can harm you if you use them excessively. Even vitamins with excessive use can cause beriberi.
Also with casinos, there are people who just have a good time, there are those who are trying to earn money, and there are people who are sick of addiction to casinos. It is very difficult, perhaps even impossible, to make sure that everyone's interests are met, but this does not mean that you should immediately ban casinos.
867  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots are better than Dice. on: July 29, 2020, 11:27:35 AM
Players use different strategy to win and earn money from gambling.

If you are players that want to only enjoy playing well that's good for you ,but it will hard for you to win  since you are not using any strategy like pros do.

Players multiply bet every time they lost that's why many of them win back the lost they get in just one roll or one game. But it's risky because you may lost higher if you do not win in that bet.

Strategies for winning do not exist in all games. For example, I have not yet heard of any winning strategy for playing dice or slots.


Many people make preferences based on their experience. If I have had the most luck playing dice and won there much more often than in slots, then I will choose the dice to play in the future. If someone on the contrary has won more often in slots, they will give preference to them in their choice.

I also play dice because it is much more fun and there are a lot of people to play with. However, there are people who do not like the presence of a large number of people so they prefer to play slots.
868  Local / Новички / Re: Почему KYC чрезвычайно опасен и бесполезен on: July 29, 2020, 11:14:58 AM

Вот именно, сколько они не вводят это KYC, а биржи безопасней не стали, как хакеры их грабили так и грабят. Лучше б они свои силы и деньги с проверки пользователей на KYC перевели на безопасность биржи, сменили бы фокус так сказать.

КУС и не способен повысить вашу безопасность. Кто говорит что КУС повышает безопасность вашего биржевого аккаунта - нагло врет или вообще ничего не смыслит в этом. Биржи как взламывали так и продолжат взламывать, прежде всего потому что большинство взломов инсценировано самими биржами.

А как Вы себе представляете возможность не платить налоги?

Все написано выше, прочитайте нашу беседу с тайкури.
869  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots are better than Dice. on: July 28, 2020, 02:19:52 PM

same here . when i go on traditional casino i dont ever think of making a profit but i just bet and enjoy the vibe there  . i only think of making money when im at home playing on online casino but only the profits doesnt like me or my luck rather doesnt love me because i only loose just like you  . i guess all we gotta do is to forgot making money on gambling  .  @lanatsa you said it depends on people ? therfor you cant say both games are playable but it can only be playable on you while to some they will pick 1 or they can pick both 

That's why I almost do not play in online casinos, because I can't earn money there, and the atmosphere is not like in traditional casinos there.
There are people who regularly earn money in poker and many other card gambling games, someone earns on multiple bets. But I personally do not know any such people.
870  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Las Vegas Casinos are open - end of the Pandemic era. on: July 28, 2020, 01:41:21 PM
I would agree, because even now the Director general of the World Health Organization (Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus) looks like he is clueless about the pandemic. He caused a lot of damage during the initial months, as a result of his irresponsible statements. First he claimed that there is a low chance of the virus spreading from one human to another. Then he said that wearing of masks is not necessary. So Trump is perfectly justified in what he did.

In addition, it is important to remember who supplied the Ebola vaccine to African countries a few years ago and how the who functionaries were indifferent.
Perhaps it was because of this indifference that the coronavirus was able to spread to the entire planet. If the threat had been announced earlier, many countries would have had time to close their borders.

I have to agree here. The WHO initially downplayed the contagious nature of this virus, especially regarding the airborne transmission and human-to-human transmission. If they had issued the proper warnings initially, then the other nations could have banned incoming travelers from China, or at least could have set up fail-proof quarantine for such individuals.

The fact of the matter is that many people understand it. Now that the epidemic has subsided a little and many leaders of countries are beginning to understand that WHO has not coped with its functions. If air traffic to China had been stopped much earlier, it might not have been necessary to stop sports matches, close Las Vegas casinos, and many fewer people would have died.
871  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots are better than Dice. on: July 28, 2020, 01:00:59 PM
We do have different perceptions in life and with gambling then people would really be different when it comes to their goals neither it would be on entertainment or for money.

When it comes to gambling then its just normal for most of the time on where people do aim for making money or profit.Choosing games will vary on peoples interest

but theres no need to choose because you can actually play both things if you do like and thats what im doing depending on whats my current mood.

I don't mind that people want to make money from gambling. I just realized a long time ago that I can't make money on gambling. I lose more often than win. That's why I don't try to earn anything, sometimes I play in traditional casinos for fun and rare winnings.
872  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots are better than Dice. on: July 28, 2020, 11:31:46 AM
Many people make preferences based on their experience. If I have had the most luck playing dice and won there much more often than in slots, then I will choose the dice to play in the future. If someone on the contrary has won more often in slots, they will give preference to them in their choice.

I go with you with that, if you find more luck playing dice and able to work with some strategy that you've created then
choosing dice will be a go sign for you,

while same thing with slot, some find this as much better since when you hit the jackpot the winning amount will really gives you a huge benefits.

A jackpot win is like throwing a bone to make it stand on an edge. Personally, I choose games that I like to play more, and not where there is an opportunity to earn more. However, all people are different and I told how others can make their choice.
873  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Las Vegas Casinos are open - end of the Pandemic era. on: July 28, 2020, 11:12:32 AM
Trump stopped funding this organization because it showed its helplessness in the fight against global pandemics. WHO functionaries fly business class, stay in the most expensive hotels, spend a lot of money on business trips, but the benefits of them are very, very small.

I would agree, because even now the Director general of the World Health Organization (Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus) looks like he is clueless about the pandemic. He caused a lot of damage during the initial months, as a result of his irresponsible statements. First he claimed that there is a low chance of the virus spreading from one human to another. Then he said that wearing of masks is not necessary. So Trump is perfectly justified in what he did.

In addition, it is important to remember who supplied the Ebola vaccine to African countries a few years ago and how the who functionaries were indifferent.
Perhaps it was because of this indifference that the coronavirus was able to spread to the entire planet. If the threat had been announced earlier, many countries would have had time to close their borders.
874  Local / Новички / Re: Почему KYC чрезвычайно опасен и бесполезен on: July 28, 2020, 10:29:19 AM
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Я подметил удивительную вещь, про то что власти нам все должны (Мы же им налоги платим!) особенно часто вспоминают те, кто работает в черную и не платит никаких налогов кроме как НДС при покупке товаров в местных магазинах.
Вот и сосед мой по даче, который всю жизнь нигде не работал и возит в Польшу и из Польши различные товары и за счет этого живет, часто вспоминает что ему все всё должны.  Grin
Когда напоминаешь ему, что ему государство дало льготный кредит под 5% на 4 комнатную квартиру в Минске как малоимущему и многодетному отцу, что учит бесплатно его детей, лечит всю семью, и при этом ни он ни его жена официально нигде не работают, то он начинает обижаться.  Grin

Понимаю, что самый лучший способ защиты своего мнения это примеры с обидами и обобщения с участием неработающих граждан Smiley

В очередной раз убеждаюсь какой же вы мастер словесной эквилибристики, выворачиваете фразы в нужном вам направлении. Мой общий посыл такой был, что у людей, которые сами не платят налоги нет никакого морального права говорить что государство им что-то должно. А на примере парковки и ям на дороге в дачном массиве показал как люди могут сообща решать насущные проблемы.

Ну конечно не все там. Однако, если говорить о подобных компаниях - конечно очень интересно, чтобы идентификацию прошли их владельцы, раз они пытаются что-то гарантировать. И существует ли вариант децентрализованного KYC, чисто теоретически?

КУС не нужен ни для какой безопасности и гарантий. Он нужен для того чтобы биржи по цепочке передавали ваши данные регуляторам, которые ведут реестр криптовалютных адресов и их владельцев.
875  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Las Vegas Casinos are open - end of the Pandemic era. on: July 28, 2020, 10:07:16 AM

No one is actually stopping people from going to casino since the government have already said they are exempted but to curb the spread of the virus i dont anything bad in treating an adult thats yet to be mature as little children and i believe this was what the Chinese government didnt do then.

The government said that people can go to Las Vegas for the purpose of visiting casinos, but the society immediately began to condemn these on forums and in various media . Players began to be called almost the most important distributors of the disease.

No wonder you dont understand there purpose that why you underrated their power. Trump stop funding because they are not open up with their investigation about the cause of the COVID 19 and how the Chinese government dont curb the spread till it a global disease but i guess thats because they have their own rule and regulations to follow.

Trump stopped funding this organization because it showed its helplessness in the fight against global pandemics. WHO functionaries fly business class, stay in the most expensive hotels, spend a lot of money on business trips, but the benefits of them are very, very small.
876  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is the best welcome offer for you? on: July 28, 2020, 09:30:41 AM
A cashback program is definitely attractive for those that have played for a long time on a casino or for those gamblers that know that they have the funds to do so, but for the rest of the gamblers that are the majority this is not an attractive offer, maybe a casino could offer something like free spins to those users as in my opinion it is a better option than welcome bonuses that you need to bet time and time again before you have a chance to make a withdrawal.

Why is cash back not attractive to you? The more money a player bets and plays, the more money they return to their balance. It turns out that the bonus here depends on the size of bets and their number, which is quite rightfully.
Cashback amounts are not added as the real money to the account, these free money can be used in some pre-determined game types. Usually, the free slot chips are equal to the cashback amount but from my experience, this amount is tied to a loss in general.

Cashback can be arranged in different ways. Here the main thing is that in General there is such an opportunity to play, spend money and then get some of it back.

It depends, on what percentage will be the cashback return. If the cashback returns a promising percentage that will be of course, a good welcome offer, but for me, it is not a welcome offer anymore, it is a feature of the platform already, a promo, or something more appropriately called, promotion or loyalty program for their gamblers/players which I find good, to make sure that gamblers will stick to the platform for a long time.

For me, cashback is better because it works constantly while you play and spend money. Welcome bonus is given only at the beginning and no matter how much you play you will not be given it again.
877  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots are better than Dice. on: July 28, 2020, 09:12:41 AM
Every game is better when you are winning. One thing is assured that you can't beat the house edge, so you are now winning for your good luck only, sooner or later the sakes with red will follow. If only then you can control yourself then you will be the winner whether its a slot or a dice.

But we need to remember that not all games we can win because we need to have luck in gambling games, which is the important thing that we must have. We can be hard to win in the gambling games, and if we force to still playing gambling, I am afraid that the result will not be good for us because we can lose all of the money we have. It will be difficult to beat the house because they will have a way to prevent that, and in the end, the house will take your money without mercy.

Many people make preferences based on their experience. If I have had the most luck playing dice and won there much more often than in slots, then I will choose the dice to play in the future. If someone on the contrary has won more often in slots, they will give preference to them in their choice.
878  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [FREE RAFFLE] Birthday Mystery Raffle | 0/100 Tickets Remain ROLLINROLLINROLLIN on: July 28, 2020, 08:55:34 AM
Sorry for the delay! Here's a little goodibag I put together:

4-coin Magical Crypto Conference set
Ledger Nano S
2x Satori Chips
BYOB - The M.O.A.B 1oz silver coin

Will pm you, johhnyUA, for shipping details and I hope you'll enjoy!!

Thanks again all.

Hhampuz, you know how to make gifts. This is a very nice act from you. This is probably especially nice to do on your birthday.
879  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Physical Casinos Decoded : on: July 28, 2020, 08:52:16 AM
They will really go beyond laws so that they could just gamble. I think this is the reason why other people are taking advantage of it and making places they could meet. I guess that is the reason why the government are just allowing casinos to function so that they could also get taxes from their vices.

Smart governments understand that banning something is bad for people, because people will do it illegally

That's not always the case

Drugs are strictly illegal and for the right reasons, even if some people are using them anyway. Moreover, if they were not made illegal while their sale wasn't a severe criminal offence, the majority of people would be using them with devastating consequences. In this way, banning something is not always bad for people. Casinos are borderline in this regard, and that's also the reason why they are banned in some countries and only allowed in special zones in other countries

I hope you haven't forgotten about the legalization of marijuana and other light drugs for "medical purposes" in many countries of the world?
Of course, casinos cause much less harm than drugs. But in some countries, especially Muslim ones, casinos are also banned along with alcohol.
880  Other / Meta / Re: [TELEGRAM] Yet Another BitcoinTalk Notification BOT (merits, mentions, topics,+) on: July 27, 2020, 02:46:26 PM
Thank you for the awesome notification bot!
I used your bot in English, then switched to Russian. The translation was made at a high level. I noticed a slight inaccuracy in the menu. When you select the "Notifications" section, the "Enable Deleted Posts" button is displayed in English, it should be translated as: "Включить показ удаленных сообщений". Similarly, when messages are already enabled, the "Disable Deleted Posts" button is displayed, which can be translated as: "Отключить показ удаленных сообщений"

Also, there are three buttons placed in a row and they read a maximum of the first two words. Perhaps they should be placed in two rows?
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