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861  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: January 18, 2016, 02:51:39 AM
I was testing possibility that hacker did some test withdrawals before main hack of hot and cold wallet.And I found evidences for that.Few hours before hack, hacker tested his possibilities.


10 hours before attack on hot and 17 hours before attack on cold wallet two transactions identically like in main hack occured at the same time 19:58:44 on 28.July.2014 :

 
https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/8ea29cd8bae4f9ef014b85cba8303872c0edf916ce55982834b5fbeefb1b2b21

sent 2 BTC to 1AcXmrLgZJfWniz4AyrtTsv6KaTSfGvhp6, which remain unspent till now and only tx in that wallet



https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/89ccb44e6ebae0e0e76fdc75eff1b30745251ceafd1f1d2b13c668b867a7c25f

sent 1.549 BTC to 1D8qGtKB7eD7j9ZYhyKiC13xE2v4uHYckr, which also remain unspent till now and only tx in that wallet



I also found string of small unspent transactions to the wallet , which I believe hacker used for making tests over months.


https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/07af4436d470e90f5a91003cf92278e6b90158558394b4c9af7a783514ffcfcd

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/d7ae42681bed0255   - 1NBeewMkKsZ9Uw8KuE1i1hJbMQenfXuEUx


If you look at this wallet you can see string of small unspent transactions from Cryptsy hot wallet over few months from 02.May.2014 till 29.July.2014.Last transaction in this wallet occured just 7 hours before hack 01:41:22, 29.July.2014

After 29.July.2014 ,not at single transaction in or out of this wallet happenned.

862  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: January 17, 2016, 11:21:40 PM
any theories yet on exactly why the 13000 btc(or what ever total it is)  hasnt been moved  for 1.5 years? (idk maybe it has?)
  dont btc thieves usually throw it all into the blender right away?  or am i missing something?

You are right.It is very suspicious,because in earlier thefts on BTER,Bitstamp and Poloniex, hackers put stolen BTCs into mixer few hours or at most few days after theft.
863  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: January 17, 2016, 11:15:44 PM
they probably analyzed the gox case and  then planed their very own fake we got hacked scam attempt . just stay quiet until we can run away i mean why would you leave your offices unannounced ? if you are innocent. ask yourselves if the actions of cryptsy over the so called hacks are the actions a innocent person would take or better yet a sane person? opportunistic buttom feeders trying to help himself to your personal possessions. whilst attempting to draw your intelligence through the floor alongs the way. even a little child can call his bullshit.  big fucking punk vern i know you are reading this. you better give people their money and btw were the fuck did you get 1000btc from to be offering for bounties? are you fucking mad? motherfucker you owe money. you might want to add that 1000 btc back were you got it from. has i,m sure thats part of my money has your whole life is currently minus 12million at least negative balance . fucking noob tell us were the 1kBTC HAS COME FROM. post that in your fucking blog if you like   

that is excellent question - from where these bounty 1000 BTCs ~ 400K $ come from. It is a lot of money.
are you listening to the radio show ?

No.What else can he say?

Honestly I am tired from all of it. Nobody knew nothing for 1.5 year? - It was probably the best keeping secret on the world...

And first hack (~ 500 BTC) came 5  hours before main hack and nobody reacted to shutdown site immediately.

LTC hack came 20 minutes before main BTC hack and again nobody shutdown site.

That is criminal negligence.
864  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: January 17, 2016, 10:59:38 PM
they probably analyzed the gox case and  then planed their very own fake we got hacked scam attempt . just stay quiet until we can run away i mean why would you leave your offices unannounced ? if you are innocent. ask yourselves if the actions of cryptsy over the so called hacks are the actions a innocent person would take or better yet a sane person? opportunistic buttom feeders trying to help himself to your personal possessions. whilst attempting to draw your intelligence through the floor alongs the way. even a little child can call his bullshit.  big fucking punk vern i know you are reading this. you better give people their money and btw were the fuck did you get 1000btc from to be offering for bounties? are you fucking mad? motherfucker you owe money. you might want to add that 1000 btc back were you got it from. has i,m sure thats part of my money has your whole life is currently minus 12million at least negative balance . fucking noob tell us were the 1kBTC HAS COME FROM. post that in your fucking blog if you like   

that is excellent question - from where these bounty 1000 BTCs ~ 400K $ come from. It is a lot of money.
865  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: January 17, 2016, 10:20:41 PM
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I WAS FIRST WHO SPOKE ABOUT SUSPICIOUS TRANSFER FROM CRYPTSY OLD WALLET TO BITFINEX,BTCC,ALPHABAY AND LOCAL BITCOINS AND GOT WEEK BAN FROM JSHOCK FOR THAT.I WAS FIRST THAT GIVES INFO ABOUT BTC THEFT HAPPENED 5 HOURS EARLIER BEFORE MAIN HACK - WHEN THEIF TOOK 500 BTC IN 5X100 TRANSFERS.YOU ALL USED MINE FINDINGS AND DATA AND MANY PEOPLE POST IT HERE.I FOUND CRYPTSY DOGE COLD WALLET AND POST SUSPICIOS TRANSFERS FROM IT:

Hey, thunderjet, is your 500 BTC finding and my 500 BTC finding (5X100 on July 29, 2014) the same? I found my independently of your research if it's the same otherwise I would've gave you credit for the find.

If different, please point me to your finding so that I can do some exploratory on my own. Thanks, bud.


EDIT: Just scrolled down and see that it is.

Somehow I missed your post and posted the exact same findings the next day (yesterday): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg13574270;topicseen#msg13574270

To be clear, thunderjet, my research was independent of yours and would've gladly given you credit for your find.

Apologies for any misunderstandings.

Gleb, it does not really matter who find it first.I post it because I was furious on that guy for accusing me on something I did not do it.

I traced LTC theft and Iam posting intel I found about it.I hope so that others members can help to find as much facts as it possible.



I analized LTC theft and after thorough analysis I trace back stolen LTC right to Huobi cold wallets.

Huobi and BitVc are using same addresses for BTC an LTC hot/cold wallets.Stolen LTC went directly to Huobi 2 LTC cold wallet - 3KgtbGgaX2ngstNpvyv7LwpHSweVeqGbpM .

https://www.blockseer.com/addresses/3KgtbGgaX2ngstNpvyv7LwpHSweVeqGbpM

Hackers transactions also led to two other Huobi LTC cold wallets(Huobi and BitVc are using same addresses for BTC an LTC hot wallets):

3KBUuGko4H5ke7EVsq9B7PLK1c5Askdd7y - Huobi cold wallet
https://www.blockseer.com/addresses/3KBUuGko4H5ke7EVsq9B7PLK1c5Askdd7y

3AGcNMjFf6fSxe31gH9YQZj3fSUh2UxkaB - BitVC futures exchange LTC cold wallet owned by Huobi
https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/aad6044d684735d2?from_address=3AGcNMjFf6fSxe31gH9YQZj3fSUh2UxkaB

I can positively identified at least one user deposit address at Huobi 1 cold wallet(3KgtbGgaX2ngstNpvyv7LwpHSweVeqGbpM) - it is  LW22iVURAEPzqas21iyuv8EXTYJgZugCdT .

On this address hacker deposited LTC on Huobi and because he deposited 10k LTC or more, Huobi directly put it in one of theirs cold wallets - 3KgtbGgaX2ngstNpvyv7LwpHSweVeqGbpM

These direct transactions were:

https://bitinfocharts.com/litecoin/tx/ddf5891e02b629fbd21b0ad3996404c3569c7ab33398ff276fdf6aee8776cd45
https://bitinfocharts.com/litecoin/tx/289275b45a0a83884b4e105315b543aa123a97e3038a23798bb82c6c379c0038
https://bitinfocharts.com/litecoin/tx/69ee73e7cd604968efa3170f14c8b440561fd8c1afd9d54baef8f50891d24f8c
https://bitinfocharts.com/litecoin/tx/a797ffdadf9591235bba4d83f999ce8d1443321f81411a099838dbb53cf72bad
https://bitinfocharts.com/litecoin/tx/db817b7dee3bcd55fb1e8bf01acac96b476e8b306dbaeb64ae7f1ef3d8e76932
https://bitinfocharts.com/litecoin/tx/859fa869de1b66d3704f0971497e5b7aa9798a7a2a9e0093661096100563cca5
https://bitinfocharts.com/litecoin/tx/d6e43b94e7ca8deb3590259605a28764658c09e721783f459d75a00c4a4ca3a0


Other part of stolen LTC went to probably BTC-e LTC hot wallet - LXA3i9eEAVDbgDqkThCa4D6BUJ3SEULkEr

https://bitinfocharts.com/litecoin/tx/dd05dc0a25cfa763959465f1d8a95921a28b63df0426f43b75cfc9f81aedc348

This is hacker deposit address on BTC-e,after LTC went directly to above hot wallet : LY13Z54QKwyAnuwKfYwKFhW98qa6ihsfYy


That address of exchange hot wallet on which hacker sent some LTC - LXA3i9eEAVDbgDqkThCa4D6BUJ3SEULkEr ,auto sent big sums of deposited LTC to cold wallet - LTpYZG19YmfvY2bBDYtCKpunVRw7nVgRHW with 1.855 millions of LTC inside

 http://ltc.blockr.io/tx/info/464c3f896b9250120ffcc2ae0bae28723457d2993d454f30ded6fff86f11b608


This address -  LTpYZG19YmfvY2bBDYtCKpunVRw7nVgRHW  was formed on 13.Oct 2012,when only BTC-e operated as big LTC exchange,so I beleve it is theirs cold wallet.

http://ltc.blockr.io/address/info/LTpYZG19YmfvY2bBDYtCKpunVRw7nVgRHW



Does this mean that if you can ID the Depositor at Huobi or at BTC-e   using these Addresses below, then The Hacker is ID'd?

Huobi   --  LW22iVURAEPzqas21iyuv8EXTYJgZugCdT
BTC-e  --  LY13Z54QKwyAnuwKfYwKFhW98qa6ihsfYy




These LTC transactions were huge.Hacker deposited LTC on Huobi,BitVc and BTC-e. Huobi and BitVC has only LTC/CNY markets,so hacker took CNY(in that case hacker is probably Chinese) or sold LTC for CNY and then changed it for BTC and BTC for dollars.Anyway these were so huge transactions that it marked huge trace on exchanges.Iam sure that exchanges has some intel about owner of deposit addresses,especially if hacker took money directly from them.Also Huobi and BitVc are using Google and SMS verifications for every withdraw and for sure have phone number hacker used.BitVc is used almost all by Chinese,so most likely hacker/hackers are from China.  
866  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: January 17, 2016, 09:13:38 PM
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I WAS FIRST WHO SPOKE ABOUT SUSPICIOUS TRANSFER FROM CRYPTSY OLD WALLET TO BITFINEX,BTCC,ALPHABAY AND LOCAL BITCOINS AND GOT WEEK BAN FROM JSHOCK FOR THAT.I WAS FIRST THAT GIVES INFO ABOUT BTC THEFT HAPPENED 5 HOURS EARLIER BEFORE MAIN HACK - WHEN THEIF TOOK 500 BTC IN 5X100 TRANSFERS.YOU ALL USED MINE FINDINGS AND DATA AND MANY PEOPLE POST IT HERE.I FOUND CRYPTSY DOGE COLD WALLET AND POST SUSPICIOS TRANSFERS FROM IT:

Hey, thunderjet, is your 500 BTC finding and my 500 BTC finding (5X100 on July 29, 2014) the same? I found my independently of your research if it's the same otherwise I would've gave you credit for the find.

If different, please point me to your finding so that I can do some exploratory on my own. Thanks, bud.


EDIT: Just scrolled down and see that it is.

Somehow I missed your post and posted the exact same findings the next day (yesterday): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg13574270;topicseen#msg13574270

To be clear, thunderjet, my research was independent of yours and would've gladly given you credit for your find.

Apologies for any misunderstandings.

Gleb, it does not really matter who find it first.I post it because I was furious on that guy for accusing me on something I did not do it.

I traced LTC theft and Iam posting intel I found about it.I hope so that others members can help to find as much facts as it possible.



I analized LTC theft and after thorough analysis I trace back stolen LTC right to Huobi cold wallets.

Huobi and BitVc are using same addresses for BTC an LTC hot/cold wallets.Stolen LTC went directly to Huobi 2 LTC cold wallet - 3KgtbGgaX2ngstNpvyv7LwpHSweVeqGbpM .

https://www.blockseer.com/addresses/3KgtbGgaX2ngstNpvyv7LwpHSweVeqGbpM

Hackers transactions also led to two other Huobi LTC cold wallets(Huobi and BitVc are using same addresses for BTC an LTC hot wallets):

3KBUuGko4H5ke7EVsq9B7PLK1c5Askdd7y - Huobi cold wallet
https://www.blockseer.com/addresses/3KBUuGko4H5ke7EVsq9B7PLK1c5Askdd7y

3AGcNMjFf6fSxe31gH9YQZj3fSUh2UxkaB - BitVC futures exchange LTC cold wallet owned by Huobi
https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/aad6044d684735d2?from_address=3AGcNMjFf6fSxe31gH9YQZj3fSUh2UxkaB

I can positively identified at least one user deposit address at Huobi 1 cold wallet(3KgtbGgaX2ngstNpvyv7LwpHSweVeqGbpM) - it is  LW22iVURAEPzqas21iyuv8EXTYJgZugCdT .

On this address hacker deposited LTC on Huobi and because he deposited 10k LTC or more, Huobi directly put it in one of theirs cold wallets - 3KgtbGgaX2ngstNpvyv7LwpHSweVeqGbpM

These direct transactions were:

https://bitinfocharts.com/litecoin/tx/ddf5891e02b629fbd21b0ad3996404c3569c7ab33398ff276fdf6aee8776cd45
https://bitinfocharts.com/litecoin/tx/289275b45a0a83884b4e105315b543aa123a97e3038a23798bb82c6c379c0038
https://bitinfocharts.com/litecoin/tx/69ee73e7cd604968efa3170f14c8b440561fd8c1afd9d54baef8f50891d24f8c
https://bitinfocharts.com/litecoin/tx/a797ffdadf9591235bba4d83f999ce8d1443321f81411a099838dbb53cf72bad
https://bitinfocharts.com/litecoin/tx/db817b7dee3bcd55fb1e8bf01acac96b476e8b306dbaeb64ae7f1ef3d8e76932
https://bitinfocharts.com/litecoin/tx/859fa869de1b66d3704f0971497e5b7aa9798a7a2a9e0093661096100563cca5
https://bitinfocharts.com/litecoin/tx/d6e43b94e7ca8deb3590259605a28764658c09e721783f459d75a00c4a4ca3a0


Other part of stolen LTC went to probably BTC-e LTC hot wallet - LXA3i9eEAVDbgDqkThCa4D6BUJ3SEULkEr

https://bitinfocharts.com/litecoin/tx/dd05dc0a25cfa763959465f1d8a95921a28b63df0426f43b75cfc9f81aedc348

This is hacker deposit address on BTC-e,after LTC went directly to above hot wallet : LY13Z54QKwyAnuwKfYwKFhW98qa6ihsfYy


That address of exchange hot wallet on which hacker sent some LTC - LXA3i9eEAVDbgDqkThCa4D6BUJ3SEULkEr ,auto sent big sums of deposited LTC to cold wallet - LTpYZG19YmfvY2bBDYtCKpunVRw7nVgRHW with 1.855 millions of LTC inside

 http://ltc.blockr.io/tx/info/464c3f896b9250120ffcc2ae0bae28723457d2993d454f30ded6fff86f11b608


This address -  LTpYZG19YmfvY2bBDYtCKpunVRw7nVgRHW  was formed on 13.Oct 2012,when only BTC-e operated as big LTC exchange,so I beleve it is theirs cold wallet.

http://ltc.blockr.io/address/info/LTpYZG19YmfvY2bBDYtCKpunVRw7nVgRHW



867  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: January 17, 2016, 07:34:27 PM
I would accept 10% withdrawals-fee and a daily Limit of $50, but for all users and no monthly limit.

Nobody would trade on exchange with 10 % withdrawal fee.

What Cryptsy can do?

1) gives full disclosure of their assets,

2) open withdrawals for unaffected coins,

3) reduce operational costs by shutting down of unprofitable LTC and XRP/altcoins market and leave 50 coins with best BTC volume in the last 6 months,

4) back trade fees as more profitable option,

4) BV find investors or put mortgage on his business and personal properties or sell unnecessary assets(or combine) to take loan enough to cover 50% debt ~ 5000 BTCs,

5) other 50% will be paid from 0,5% withdrawal fee which would be auto-deduct from debt to every user during theirs withdrawal and

6) from 33% of exchange income(trade fees),starting 3 months after reopening,so exchange will have enough time to recover.
'

Sounds great on paper, but of the volume that was there for the past year, how many of those users do you think would come back? That kinda changes everything.
yes who will continue to trade with this bastards? and stop begging for your money. it is yours and some big bird thinks he can help himself to it then there is only 1 way to deal with this.

Nobody begging for money.I personally lost very little,but what is your solution - bankruptcy ? If Cryptsy bankrupt nobody will get anything - 0000000000000000000 , BV maybe or maybe not will go to jail for 2-3 years and that is all.If he did it as you suggest,after prison he will be very rich man with 000000000000000 responsibility.

Why is wrong that users be paid 50% immediately ? Maybe you prefer to get 0% ? That is bullshit man.

Give better suggestion than yelling and cursing,because these things cant help people who lost money.We all cursed and yelled when it happened,but after that we have to see what to do next. Bankruptcy is way too easy solution for the mess BV created.
are you not the guy that kept telling us that the cryptsy cold wallet was intact.?
and what fucking bankrupt claim should we really entertain ? the man and his crew are insane . you are an adult you should know when the line is crossed. i don't have to draw your a picture like a child?

You obviously keep talking bullshit. What is your suggestion?  To everbody take 100% loss and let him get away so easy?? You are talking as his lawyer,because,it will be the best solution for him ,but not for users.

Yes, one girl from Russia and me found that wallet in wallet explorer and it looks like ordinary cold wallet of some exchange - long time dormant,directly connected with main wallet. I was also first who gave to the others informations about removing huge portions of BTCs from old hot wallet to Bitfinex,BTCC,AlphaBay market and Local Bitcoins, in time when all other users got in total no more than 5-6 BTCs daily.I have never seen that thief or thieves,left stolen money for so long in dormant status.In all other cases - BTER, Bitstamp,Poloniex ,hackers very soon after theft put BTCs in some of bitcoins mixers,but not in this case.If it is inner job,than bankruptcy is easiest way for BV to escape from any responsibility.


you need to read before you reply to peoples posts. like wtf are you talking about?when and were above did i make the suggestions you are claiming i did , are you mad ? and how nice of you to dodge the question i asked you so i will ask again in caps. ARE YOU NOT THE SAME PERSON THAT KEP REASURING US THAT CRYPTSY COLD WALLET WAS INTACT?..

I SUGGEST YOU DEMAND YOUR MONEY FROM THIS BASTARD AND NOT BEG FOR IT LIKE A LIL BITCH. SO NOBODY IN THE STATES IS EVEN TRACKING THIS MOFOS DOWN?  FUCK BANKRUPTSY DEMAND YOUR MONEY FROM THE THEIVE AND BE WILLING TO TAKE ACTIONS FOR YOUR MONEY FUCK THE BULLSHIT

For the first and last time - I DID NOT REASSURE ANYBODY THAT IS SAFE TO STAY MONEY AT CRYPTSY - ONLY I WAS DOING IS TO HELP PEOPLE GIVING INFOS IN THE CHAT HOW MUCH BTC CRYPTSY SENT EVERY DAY TO THE USERS,WHAT WERE BIGGEST TRANSFERS(THROUGH MONITORING CRYPTSY WALLETS ON WALLET EXPLORER) AND DID BTC ARE MOVING FROM THAT EVERYBODY BELIEVED WAS CRYPTSY COLD WALLET.I CANT BELIEVE THAT TALKING OPENLY HOW LITTLE CRYPTSY SENT BTC EVERY DAY WAS HELPFUL FOR CRYPTSY IN ANY WAY.

I WAS FIRST WHO SPOKE ABOUT SUSPICIOUS TRANSFER FROM CRYPTSY OLD WALLET TO BITFINEX,BTCC,ALPHABAY AND LOCAL BITCOINS AND GOT WEEK BAN FROM JSHOCK FOR THAT.I WAS FIRST THAT GIVES INFO ABOUT BTC THEFT HAPPENED 5 HOURS EARLIER BEFORE MAIN HACK - WHEN THEIF TOOK 500 BTC IN 5X100 TRANSFERS.YOU ALL USED MINE FINDINGS AND DATA AND MANY PEOPLE POST IT HERE.I FOUND CRYPTSY DOGE COLD WALLET AND POST SUSPICIOS TRANSFERS FROM IT:

I monitored Cryptsy Bitcoin and other alts wallets through blockchain analysis and it is pretty hard to me to believe that theft is caused by trojan virus infiltration to cold wallet.

First of all Cryptsy cold wallet then was not cold at all,otherwise how virus jumped to it from server?

Blockchain analysis gave me information that theft began not at 13:37:26 as posted on Cryptsy blog,but 5 hours earlier,through attack on hot wallet.Incident occured at 08:27:48,when someone took 500 BTC through 5 txs of 100 BTC each - https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/Cryptsy.com-old?page=1202
These txs were:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/e68f52a38f58e71b951a08650e20aea3f62f7331a3f548e99181f6dbf1cc1d51
https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/48721871b11f716688fcf80a91a5c7586a1dddee83d90b84b564f3f29e11504c
https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/790aa7ec2678552c88cf95110c0df4bcc16a72b8f7e6f331292b977cc6e481df
https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/e8bb46bc6ea5f4580dd2b73f5d6a116e9023c84eb7c0fd4f34bcef3aca606fad
https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/f3998a7e2e8b451106327d2c6e7f73ba58c2fd54b4bb3595b18a2d76e7d15f44

Cryptsy employees did not notice that their hot wallet was robbed for 5 hours,when big hack happenned to cold wallet.

One thing is interesting - these 500 BTC did not move at all after it - just like 1000s after big hack.In all BTC hacks till now,hackers never wait more than few hours to put stolen BTC in to the mixer.Except in this case.


Also I found Cryptsy DASH and DOGE main wallets.Cryptsy said that they did not hacked,but what happenned with coins in them.In DASH wallet was 456K DASH.Wallet was formed on 27.July.2014:

https://bitinfocharts.com/darkcoin/tx/ba798890d98936115001f69333956b558a4856c162516cb3ab46a6455de7a1eb

It is not hacked and from one of his big direct branches came 8433 DASH sent from Cryptsy on 5th.Oct.2015 to big DASH owner known as Otoh(https://i.imgur.com/Cb2ygx7.png):

https://bchain.info/DASH/tx/964716df9d475449a7abae56a57536d46bf466a1407a81e7d5ff5457d87827d9, pay attention on address Xqi7sWthYKFPCK3KHcKq8BqY9vMcWy4r3t  probably biggest direct branch from main DASH wallet


DOGE main wallet was also formed on the 27.July.2014 - https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/address/DN27P1saQQ1fYesKP1LHT5MdSXBpgqka85  - there was 9.5 billions of DOGE in it

On 5th.Aug 2014,DOGE was removed from that wallet in multiple 1 billion txs(like BTC in the hack,but as we know DOGE wasnt hacked) :

https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/tx/ed788feeef777fedc20fa761e4ae40aa0be9da05a3fd312d5347c5bddad50941
https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/tx/b84e8b04cdd002d029f630bf4aa12814a2a9c33e0b2d58686cea7544d91b8180
https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/tx/b36b8e35d6dd4a738d5dc1059b9e9d9f1f7a7be063a77556d607778c77cef34e
https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/tx/ea1da0bea33f2f7a34ddaeb922b822c2faf43659ac2f4de15386bfc17f4c27c1
https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/tx/5c4a79c212d1ab5f8da3f4939ebf7ea0d8244fc3b9ddfd3db1b3de018757b44c
https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/tx/27250d554170ab262924ab812295b11610158b52b17122b37b7877b99fc50db6
https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/tx/1b2ef19cd8d61cbc9706acfed594f2894f3653a52fa37e418fc8d4087ca4ad97
https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/tx/6946e22733fd1565416fae48b33442a924ee1efaa39d204947f44ceba7c832c0
https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/tx/412433cad0ec9348984f33ab3088850acaf439d69262082688170738deff016a
https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/tx/71dd761230463b85ca5c9d780ff30feda415ce34c3a81b03e1568e5e31be9dfa


Plus this withdrawal taken place after Cryptsy lockdown wallets - https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/85a5d1dfb7fd4589cf43321f65a9ed300e994b4e156653063a1c5912f908c18b


So there are a lot of mystery what is really happened with Cryptsy wallets




I never beg anybody in mine life and I certainly will not beg Cryptsy too.You said demand your money from thieves and took action - what action?People took "action" on Gox and Mintpal, and get 00000 money.

Mine suggestion was that users do not allow Cryptsy to bankrupt and get nothing from it like in previous cases,but to put pressure on BV to continue work and pay 50% of debt immediately by mortgaging or selling his business and private assets and letting people to withdraw unaffecting coins right now.I cant see any other viable option for people get some money.If you can give something better option,post it I will support you.

868  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: January 17, 2016, 12:24:27 PM


in time when all other users got in total no more than 5-6 BTCs daily.



Which timeframe ure talking about?  I managed to withdraw 100 btc back in september before the tier system has actually been implemented.

From November till now
869  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: January 17, 2016, 12:23:24 PM
I would accept 10% withdrawals-fee and a daily Limit of $50, but for all users and no monthly limit.

Nobody would trade on exchange with 10 % withdrawal fee.

What Cryptsy can do?

1) gives full disclosure of their assets,

2) open withdrawals for unaffected coins,

3) reduce operational costs by shutting down of unprofitable LTC and XRP/altcoins market and leave 50 coins with best BTC volume in the last 6 months,

4) back trade fees as more profitable option,

4) BV find investors or put mortgage on his business and personal properties or sell unnecessary assets(or combine) to take loan enough to cover 50% debt ~ 5000 BTCs,

5) other 50% will be paid from 0,5% withdrawal fee which would be auto-deduct from debt to every user during theirs withdrawal and

6) from 33% of exchange income(trade fees),starting 3 months after reopening,so exchange will have enough time to recover.

Fuck u buddy, Swabbing it down like this would lead to unaffected coins being bought up, inflated to absurd levels and added to withdrawal queue along with thousands of altcoin withdrawals to which affected bitcoins are then converted.  U cant start the markets before the prevailing part of alt withdrawals is processed coz u would need to handle fucking myriads of extra withdrawals that added up from converted bitcoin.  I can bet eth would hit 0.01 btc then, very much like doge and other alts skewing to higher rates simply coz there would be pooptons of btc halted in user accounts that everyone would rather convert into alts then hold up.

I was thinking on that - unaffected coins will be first to withdraw ,before eventually reopening and during that trading would be halted,just withdraw

answer did you not keep us updated that the cold wallet for BTC was intact intact? in the cryptsy chat?

this is strange i think you work for them or are part of the heist wich ever way you just said you lost nothing so what gives? and i just shouted at the cunts in a ticket .wich they replied please see blog blah blah blah for current and future updates , then you show up to post your crap to me . you trying to make enemies here even you are not one of them don't reply to me if you have nothing good to say otherwise yo are looking for trouble

For talking about these strange transfers from Cryptsy old hot wallet in the chat I got a week ban from JShock - Are you happy now??? Iam trying to do something good for all,ff you dont like it,you have right to do as you wish,but nobody will get anything good from bankruptcy - that is a fact. Give some better option I will be first to support you - otherwise what ?? Stay calm and do nothing? Trouble for saying mine opinion ?? Is it a threat? I hope it is not.
870  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: January 17, 2016, 12:08:22 PM
I would accept 10% withdrawals-fee and a daily Limit of $50, but for all users and no monthly limit.

Nobody would trade on exchange with 10 % withdrawal fee.

What Cryptsy can do?

1) gives full disclosure of their assets,

2) open withdrawals for unaffected coins,

3) reduce operational costs by shutting down of unprofitable LTC and XRP/altcoins market and leave 50 coins with best BTC volume in the last 6 months,

4) back trade fees as more profitable option,

4) BV find investors or put mortgage on his business and personal properties or sell unnecessary assets(or combine) to take loan enough to cover 50% debt ~ 5000 BTCs,

5) other 50% will be paid from 0,5% withdrawal fee which would be auto-deduct from debt to every user during theirs withdrawal and

6) from 33% of exchange income(trade fees),starting 3 months after reopening,so exchange will have enough time to recover.
'

Sounds great on paper, but of the volume that was there for the past year, how many of those users do you think would come back? That kinda changes everything.
yes who will continue to trade with this bastards? and stop begging for your money. it is yours and some big bird thinks he can help himself to it then there is only 1 way to deal with this.

Nobody begging for money.I personally lost very little,but what is your solution - bankruptcy ? If Cryptsy bankrupt nobody will get anything - 0000000000000000000 , BV maybe or maybe not will go to jail for 2-3 years and that is all.If he did it as you suggest,after prison he will be very rich man with 000000000000000 responsibility.

Why is wrong that users be paid 50% immediately ? Maybe you prefer to get 0% ? That is bullshit man.

Give better suggestion than yelling and cursing,because these things cant help people who lost money.We all cursed and yelled when it happened,but after that we have to see what to do next. Bankruptcy is way too easy solution for the mess BV created.
are you not the guy that kept telling us that the cryptsy cold wallet was intact.?
and what fucking bankrupt claim should we really entertain ? the man and his crew are insane . you are an adult you should know when the line is crossed. i don't have to draw your a picture like a child?

You obviously keep talking bullshit. What is your suggestion?  To everbody take 100% loss and let him get away so easy?? You are talking as his lawyer,because,it will be the best solution for him ,but not for users.

Yes, one girl from Russia and me found that wallet in wallet explorer and it looks like ordinary cold wallet of some exchange - long time dormant,directly connected with main wallet. I was also first who gave to the others informations about removing huge portions of BTCs from old hot wallet to Bitfinex,BTCC,AlphaBay market and Local Bitcoins, in time when all other users got in total no more than 5-6 BTCs daily.I have never seen that thief or thieves,left stolen money for so long in dormant status.In all other cases - BTER, Bitstamp,Poloniex ,hackers very soon after theft put BTCs in some of bitcoins mixers,but not in this case.If it is inner job,than bankruptcy is easiest way for BV to escape from any responsibility.

871  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: January 17, 2016, 11:33:36 AM
I would accept 10% withdrawals-fee and a daily Limit of $50, but for all users and no monthly limit.

Nobody would trade on exchange with 10 % withdrawal fee.

What Cryptsy can do?

1) gives full disclosure of their assets,

2) open withdrawals for unaffected coins,

3) reduce operational costs by shutting down of unprofitable LTC and XRP/altcoins market and leave 50 coins with best BTC volume in the last 6 months,

4) back trade fees as more profitable option,

4) BV find investors or put mortgage on his business and personal properties or sell unnecessary assets(or combine) to take loan enough to cover 50% debt ~ 5000 BTCs,

5) other 50% will be paid from 0,5% withdrawal fee which would be auto-deduct from debt to every user during theirs withdrawal and

6) from 33% of exchange income(trade fees),starting 3 months after reopening,so exchange will have enough time to recover.

Fuck u buddy, Swabbing it down like this would lead to unaffected coins being bought up, inflated to absurd levels and added to withdrawal queue along with thousands of altcoin withdrawals to which affected bitcoins are then converted.  U cant start the markets before the prevailing part of alt withdrawals is processed coz u would need to handle fucking myriads of extra withdrawals that added up from converted bitcoin.  I can bet eth would hit 0.01 btc then, very much like doge and other alts skewing to higher rates simply coz there would be pooptons of btc halted in user accounts that everyone would rather convert into alts then hold up.

I was thinking on that - unaffected coins will be first to withdraw ,before eventually reopening and during that trading would be halted,just withdraw
872  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: January 17, 2016, 11:28:38 AM
I would accept 10% withdrawals-fee and a daily Limit of $50, but for all users and no monthly limit.

Nobody would trade on exchange with 10 % withdrawal fee.

What Cryptsy can do?

1) gives full disclosure of their assets,

2) open withdrawals for unaffected coins,

3) reduce operational costs by shutting down of unprofitable LTC and XRP/altcoins market and leave 50 coins with best BTC volume in the last 6 months,

4) back trade fees as more profitable option,

4) BV find investors or put mortgage on his business and personal properties or sell unnecessary assets(or combine) to take loan enough to cover 50% debt ~ 5000 BTCs,

5) other 50% will be paid from 0,5% withdrawal fee which would be auto-deduct from debt to every user during theirs withdrawal and

6) from 33% of exchange income(trade fees),starting 3 months after reopening,so exchange will have enough time to recover.
'

Sounds great on paper, but of the volume that was there for the past year, how many of those users do you think would come back? That kinda changes everything.
yes who will continue to trade with this bastards? and stop begging for your money. it is yours and some big bird thinks he can help himself to it then there is only 1 way to deal with this.

Nobody begging for money.I personally lost very little,but what is your solution - bankruptcy ? If Cryptsy bankrupt nobody will get anything - 0000000000000000000 , BV maybe or maybe not will go to jail for 2-3 years and that is all.If he did it as you suggest,after prison he will be very rich man with 000000000000000 responsibility.

Why is wrong that users be paid 50% immediately ? Maybe you prefer to get 0% ? That is bullshit man.

Give better suggestion than yelling and cursing,because these things cant help people who lost money.We all cursed and yelled when it happened,but after that we have to see what to do next. Bankruptcy is way too easy solution for the mess BV created.
873  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: January 17, 2016, 10:19:31 AM
I would accept 10% withdrawals-fee and a daily Limit of $50, but for all users and no monthly limit.

Nobody would trade on exchange with 10 % withdrawal fee.

What Cryptsy can do?

1) gives full disclosure of their assets,

2) open withdrawals for unaffected coins,

3) reduce operational costs by shutting down of unprofitable LTC and XRP/altcoins market and leave 50 coins with best BTC volume in the last 6 months,

4) back trade fees as more profitable option,

4) BV find investors or put mortgage on his business and personal properties or sell unnecessary assets(or combine) to take loan enough to cover 50% debt ~ 5000 BTCs,

5) other 50% will be paid from 0,5% withdrawal fee which would be auto-deduct from debt to every user during theirs withdrawal and

6) from 33% of exchange income(trade fees),starting 3 months after reopening,so exchange will have enough time to recover.
874  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: January 17, 2016, 08:18:05 AM
Even after closure,BTCs are still moving out of Cryptsy old hot wallet to Local Bitcoins - https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/Cryptsy.com-old

3 BTCs to 15bFsG4YZgZWqbxdAL7YmZteE6x3CEnpEA

0.2 BTC to 1KfDccV8fXvEFwBy2TqNG1ntnP7B6k2atr

0.2 BTC to 1PcUEBJUScxJt97vavJH4kyTRgaTsNQ2ih

Withdrawals are stopped or maybe not Huh
875  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: January 16, 2016, 07:45:28 PM
famous address 3HNSiAq7wFDaPsYDcUxNSRMD78qVcYKicw   is Bitfinex hot wallet
876  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: January 16, 2016, 07:41:17 PM
Maybe it's crazy but this and other similar situations of coins being stolen demonstrates the benefit of having a way to reverse transactions.

Perhaps we should consider a mechanism to reverse a transaction through a vote or consensus. Haven't fully thought out how this could work but it is something to consider.

Something could be designed to allow miners to reverse a specific transaction (and all subequest tx's) through majority consensus in extreme situations such as this.

Mistakes and thefts happen. Fiat banks have the ability to correct mistakes and reverse transactions unless the funds are withdrawn for cash.

I dunno...just thinking out loud.


No thinking out loud! Meanwhile, https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/7a5c9594195f9a8bdb45a0750808fbf3f67571f930aa5383724c622d5c06b221 ---> https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/00862671d40dec80 --> https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/1209a3e1e5699dbb --> https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/6e3ce4f373b6106d --> UNSPENT
66378 UNSPENT BITCOINS THAT COME FROM CRYPTSY LAUNDERING WALLETS JUST BEFORE AND AFTER THE "OMGGGTEHHAX0RRZZZ" WTF ADD ANOTHER $25,000,000.00+ TO THE STOLEN LIST



https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/6e3ce4f373b6106d - 1AhTjUMztCihiTyA4K6E3QEpobjWLwKhkR - it is Coinbase cold wallet


877  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: January 15, 2016, 05:49:19 PM
I monitored Cryptsy Bitcoin and other alts wallets through blockchain analysis and it is pretty hard to me to believe that theft is caused by trojan virus infiltration to cold wallet.

First of all Cryptsy cold wallet then was not cold at all,otherwise how virus jumped to it from server?

Blockchain analysis gave me information that theft began not at 13:37:26 as posted on Cryptsy blog,but 5 hours earlier,through attack on hot wallet.Incident occured at 08:27:48,when someone took 500 BTC through 5 txs of 100 BTC each - https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/Cryptsy.com-old?page=1202
These txs were:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/e68f52a38f58e71b951a08650e20aea3f62f7331a3f548e99181f6dbf1cc1d51
https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/48721871b11f716688fcf80a91a5c7586a1dddee83d90b84b564f3f29e11504c
https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/790aa7ec2678552c88cf95110c0df4bcc16a72b8f7e6f331292b977cc6e481df
https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/e8bb46bc6ea5f4580dd2b73f5d6a116e9023c84eb7c0fd4f34bcef3aca606fad
https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/f3998a7e2e8b451106327d2c6e7f73ba58c2fd54b4bb3595b18a2d76e7d15f44

Cryptsy employees did not notice that their hot wallet was robbed for 5 hours,when big hack happenned to cold wallet.

One thing is interesting - these 500 BTC did not move at all after it - just like 1000s after big hack.In all BTC hacks till now,hackers never wait more than few hours to put stolen BTC in to the mixer.Except in this case.


Also I found Cryptsy DASH and DOGE main wallets.Cryptsy said that they did not hacked,but what happenned with coins in them.In DASH wallet was 456K DASH.Wallet was formed on 27.July.2014:

https://bitinfocharts.com/darkcoin/tx/ba798890d98936115001f69333956b558a4856c162516cb3ab46a6455de7a1eb

It is not hacked and from one of his big direct branches came 8433 DASH sent from Cryptsy on 5th.Oct.2015 to big DASH owner known as Otoh(https://i.imgur.com/Cb2ygx7.png):

https://bchain.info/DASH/tx/964716df9d475449a7abae56a57536d46bf466a1407a81e7d5ff5457d87827d9, pay attention on address Xqi7sWthYKFPCK3KHcKq8BqY9vMcWy4r3t  probably biggest direct branch from main DASH wallet


DOGE main wallet was also formed on the 27.July.2014 - https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/address/DN27P1saQQ1fYesKP1LHT5MdSXBpgqka85  - there was 9.5 billions of DOGE in it

On 5th.Aug 2014,DOGE was removed from that wallet in multiple 1 billion txs(like BTC in the hack,but as we know DOGE wasnt hacked) :

https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/tx/ed788feeef777fedc20fa761e4ae40aa0be9da05a3fd312d5347c5bddad50941
https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/tx/b84e8b04cdd002d029f630bf4aa12814a2a9c33e0b2d58686cea7544d91b8180
https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/tx/b36b8e35d6dd4a738d5dc1059b9e9d9f1f7a7be063a77556d607778c77cef34e
https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/tx/ea1da0bea33f2f7a34ddaeb922b822c2faf43659ac2f4de15386bfc17f4c27c1
https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/tx/5c4a79c212d1ab5f8da3f4939ebf7ea0d8244fc3b9ddfd3db1b3de018757b44c
https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/tx/27250d554170ab262924ab812295b11610158b52b17122b37b7877b99fc50db6
https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/tx/1b2ef19cd8d61cbc9706acfed594f2894f3653a52fa37e418fc8d4087ca4ad97
https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/tx/6946e22733fd1565416fae48b33442a924ee1efaa39d204947f44ceba7c832c0
https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/tx/412433cad0ec9348984f33ab3088850acaf439d69262082688170738deff016a
https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/tx/71dd761230463b85ca5c9d780ff30feda415ce34c3a81b03e1568e5e31be9dfa


Plus this withdrawal taken place after Cryptsy lockdown wallets - https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/85a5d1dfb7fd4589cf43321f65a9ed300e994b4e156653063a1c5912f908c18b


So there are a lot of mystery what is really happened with Cryptsy wallets

878  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [QRK] Quark | Core 0.9.2.6 on: December 17, 2015, 02:23:53 AM
Cryptsy Quark wallet is finally back online !!!  
879  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [QRK] Quark | Core 0.9.2.6 on: November 26, 2015, 03:24:56 PM
Good news. Quark explorer http://qrk.blockr.io/ is now on the correct Quark fork ! Now,all major Quark explorers are on the right fork!

There are now 2 things to be done:

1. Cryptsy to fix Quark wallet.(They were always on the correct fork and they need just to update from 0.9.2.5 to 0.9.2.6)

2. Mac users need 0.9.2.6 wallet too.There were no Quark updates for Mac users from 0.8.23
880  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [QRK] Quark | Core 0.9.2.6 on: November 14, 2015, 01:09:41 AM
I reset the blockchain on my mac wallet a few days ago (deleted peers.dat and blk.dat files).
However it has been stuck for 2 days processing block 2433676 which was generated 5 weeks ago, around the time of the windows update.
Any thoughts?

As I know there was no update for mac wallets since 0.8.23,so you are stucked on the wrong fork.You have 2 options:

1. Install latest 0.9.2.6 wallet for windows or

2. try to copy peers.dat file from 0.9.2.6 wallet into yours wallet and then put command to reindex from block 2400000. Hopefully it will catch right fork after block 2433676.
I can't download the latest windows wallet onto my mac so how can i copy the peers.dat file.
Cheers.

Then make a conf.file and put these Quark active nodes which all running 0.9.2.6 version. Delete all other nodes in conf file.Connect command will assure that you will connect just to these nodes which are all on the right fork.

Add this :

-connect=70.163.93.46
-connect=193.158.4.34
-connect=178.24.96.69
-connect=136.243.71.152
-connect=109.74.215.171
-connect=80.219.216.73
-connect=88.101.6.125
-connect=45.63.9.189



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