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901  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Who should pay the miner ? on: July 04, 2011, 10:40:48 AM
I think you are right, the current modell will not work. Bitcoins are perfect for hoarding, but at the same time it is expected that only those using it for consumption will pay the price for keeping the network secure. It seems very unlikely that this will be enough to me. However, it is only the miners who get to vote on how this is solved, so my guess is that eventually there will be some kind of tax. Either from the existing bitcoins or through inflation.
902  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin too valuable to spend on: July 03, 2011, 10:47:34 AM
Seriously, it's merchants who decide what to accept as payment. I'd buy steaks with my dirty socks if I could.
If Bitcoin gets big merchants who are not politically driven will accept both their local currency and Bitcoin, assuming the cost is low enough. There will probably also be companies doing automatic conversion, just like VISA and MasterCard does for practically any fiat today.
903  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin too valuable to spend on: July 02, 2011, 10:55:13 PM
If the current exchange rate is so low, why aren't people buying them to make the price go up?
They are, but currently they are being outvoted.
904  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin too valuable to spend on: July 02, 2011, 10:43:32 PM
A divisible and fungible asset like a currency can never be "too valuable to spend", since by definition you get the value of the amount you spend.
Of course it can. Lots of people here would not sell bitcoins at the current exchange rate because they think it's too low, so why would they spend them for something using the exchange price as reference? Unless they have no fiat currency it would be irrational, because converting fiat to bitcoins has a fee. It's more economical to use the fiat.
905  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What's your magic number? (or, Should I keep mining?) on: July 02, 2011, 05:02:38 PM
Right now something like 95% of miners mine on pools, and none of the pools payout from tx fees. Unless this changes, there is no pressure for fees to do anything.
They will have to start sharing them eventually. If they don't there will be no point in mining, and which means nobody will use their pool.
906  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What's your magic number? (or, Should I keep mining?) on: July 02, 2011, 04:58:56 PM
It may be more beneficial to run it even when the sale of coins doesn't pay for electricity and upkeep, just to keep the hardware generating.
No, it won't, and you'd better stay away from business if you think so.
907  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What's your magic number? (or, Should I keep mining?) on: July 02, 2011, 08:49:17 AM
Your number is for instantaneous profitability. That may apply if you are selling all mined coins immediately and saving in other currency. However, if you expect in the longer run bitcoin may appreciate, then it can be worth it to accumulate as many as you can now in anticipation for that day, even if you have to pay by operating at an instantaneous loss in the mean time.
We've been over this many times. If you keep them it's speculation, and the potential gain should be attributed to this, not the mining. Also, if you are operating at a loss you should stop mining and buy coins instead.

But at each of these discontinuities in block bounty, the supply/demand situation changes. A lot. When there are half as many per unit time being created, that will create pressure for appreciation.
It will also create pressure for significantly higher fees. If people aren't willing to pay them a lot of miners will stop mining, and the network will get much less secure.
908  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Flexible mining proxy on: June 30, 2011, 07:26:53 AM
Multipool is currently down, so I haven't been able to review the problem and proposed fix.
He's put the code on Github, so someone else set up a server here: http://multiclone.us.to:18080/ (mining port 18337).
It has the same problem.

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=17970.msg302834#msg302834
909  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Flexible mining proxy on: June 29, 2011, 10:28:11 PM
EDIT: I have a workable solution. I was able to successfully submit work with the proxy to MultiPool.
I will discuss the fix further with cdhowie in the morning and see how he wants to go about implementing it.
Did you get anywhere with this?
910  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: linux screen is acting weird on: June 29, 2011, 09:19:30 PM
Try adding
#!/bin/bash
cd /home/user/poclbm

to the beginning of the script. If it still doesn't work, add -L to the screen command to log the output.
911  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: OpenCL only seeing one GPU whilst using Multi-Desktop on: June 29, 2011, 08:11:47 PM
Probably not the solution you prefer, but... http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=390&threadid=146804
912  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Triple your income from mining with mini-pools! on: June 29, 2011, 11:04:21 AM
Secondly, IMO theres no investment or payment required to enter the pool.
Great! Where do I sign up to get the free miner hardware and electricity?
913  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: MtGox - God Dammit... on: June 29, 2011, 09:58:24 AM
I'm completely baffled at how badly they screwed up, and even more surprised at how many people go right back to them.
Something doesn't add up here...
They're the only alternative to almost everybody who don't live in the US, which makes them the only alternative to everybody who wants to trade a somewhat large volume.
914  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Radeonvolt - HD5850 reference voltage tweaking and VRM temp. display for Linux on: June 29, 2011, 08:30:32 AM
It obviously didn't work, there is no way those numbers can be correct.
915  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Cracked Passwords List Leaked, were you cracked? on: June 28, 2011, 10:33:32 PM
A random selection of some of the more secure looking passwords:

60x8760b6k328vc3v24kw8y1
Y!m4g6s3j*
Ev3rL@NRDX11090821
b1Ackb0x3!1
8W3G7Pds9712++
c65b5DF488
mgq$jc)kw3
w@chtw00rdLanimret!
acy7zkprddv2k3iFd&
VeryStrongPassword
There are probably some kind of pattern in all the difficult looking passwords that the cracker happens to find through cleaver combinations of dictionary attacks, leet speek decoding, common combinations and brute forcing. For instance Ev3rL@NRDX11090821 = Everland (a place) RDX (an explosive) and a number. w@chtw00rdLanimret! = Watch word Lanimret!

I would also have thought some of these were safe, though.
916  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Linux only recognizing one card on: June 28, 2011, 10:18:41 AM
There are various ways to make it work, but I don't know much about it because I don't have any monitors attached to my Linux miners. You can try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174

Or Google for other alternatives.
917  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 400MH/s+ on a 5850? on: June 28, 2011, 09:59:44 AM
I get a very stable 390 MHash at 950/300 MHz under Linux with the newest poclbm. 79C at 64% fan speed, default (1.088v) voltage.
918  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: SSH to Computer Behind Home Router on: June 28, 2011, 08:26:27 AM
The best thing you can do to secure your SSH server is probably to not run it on port 22. If there is a security hole or somebody wants to try to guess your password there's more than 99.9% chance they're only going to check port 22.
919  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 5850 How high? on: June 27, 2011, 01:34:45 PM
It's mainly luck. I can push my best card to 950 MHz on stock voltage, and the worst only to 850.
920  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Linux only recognizing one card on: June 27, 2011, 12:57:06 PM
Try removing
Section "ServerFlags"
   Option       "Xinerama" "on"
EndSection

and if that doesn't work, try removing or renaming /etc/X11/xorg.conf and run aticonfig --initial --adapter=all --force

Also, what does
echo $DISPLAY
say?
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