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901  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: April 23, 2022, 06:13:21 PM
Canelo doesn't have to win against Bivol just to have a 3rd fight with GGG but since Canelo won't take another chance to stain his record then I guess this is an another win in his favor and maybe we can see him to knockout Bivol. I also do agree that he also needs to defeat the latter so that there's no excuses to delay the trilogy again. The fans are already expecting so this time they better make it happen.

Yes, it's not necessary but I doubt there will be an interest in GGG to have a trilogy if Canelo will lose on Bivol.

And from what I understand, promoters or organizers both require GGG and Canelo to win their respective fights as part of the mandatory pre-requisites before making the trilogy happen. Maybe it's best for them to officially organize the trilogy if both boxers came from a win.

I'm not just sure about how true it was.
902  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Sultan vs Butler - WBO Bantamweight Interim title fight. on: April 23, 2022, 06:03:26 PM
And they said he has been training before he was called as a replacement. But I doubt that it is a full blown training, maybe just some sparring here and there and obviously he is not ready to face Butler. No controversy like a home town decision, Sultan lost fair and very clear. Lucky for him to have this moment and chance but he didn't make the best of it.

We are very uncertain about the quality of fight that a Sultan vs. Butler could offer to us unlike the expected Casimero vs. Butler, I mean at least in this type of fighter that will face off would be a battle worth watching for. However, this unexpected replacement of Sultan to Casimero is somehow a blessing in disguise for him and that he must serve his very best while on the ring and hopefully he could trained well for this game.

I agree. We might see a much more competitive and close fight if John Riel Casimero was able to fight instead.

Not saying he will win the fight but at least Paul Butler won't have an easy win and get the interim title.

Casimero also wants to show something good to his opponents and MP Promotions that's why he is eager to win the fight compared to his replacement, Jonas Sultan. I don't know what will happen next to either Jonas Sultan or John Riel Casimero or if they will be part again of big fights in the future.
903  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bulls vs Bucks game 3 discussion on: April 23, 2022, 05:51:20 PM
Just accept the fact that betting on a per-game basis on a series match is really difficult regardless of who's the current roster that will play on that game.

I just don't understand others why to think Milwaukee Bucks will be the underdog just because Middleton is out. The Bucks aren't a team that will just collapse just because they are missing one player. They are even already good even without Giannis that's why don't expect their performance will just go down without Middleton.

@OP, it's time now to close this thread as it's now over.
904  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your NBA Champion this season? on: April 22, 2022, 11:58:36 PM
I've seen how these both teams played well in their last game but most likely, my bet will go on Warriors as they become exceptionally good in their defense and created a very good atmosphere in their previous game. Somehow, the Warriors has become one of the most dangerous in the NBA today. But of course, there are still more way to go before they can be considered the champion, not to mention changes may happen so quickly when the last day of the playoffs comes.

It would be better if you will place your bet on the Golden State Warriors now. Taking it too long, you might miss the best odds you can get from them. It's like missing the train. Generally, it's worth a risk so hope for the luck.

If they will able to sweep the Denver Nuggets next game, the odds for them might be lowered from @4 to around @3 because it means they are dominant.

We might never see an over @4 odds for the Warriors since they are showing good performance since the start of the playoffs. Unless they will be behind 0-2 or 0-3 the next round which seems impossible.
905  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Sultan vs Butler - WBO Bantamweight Interim title fight. on: April 22, 2022, 11:46:25 PM
Paul Butler has easy access to the Interim title.

If only Casimero didn't do such arrogant action, he might already defend his belt against Butler and remain a WBO Bantamweight Champion.

What're next guys? Casimero will be stripped of the title then Butler's interim title will be upgraded to what Casimero left?

Is that how it works? I don't have any idea about this.
906  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Still Supporting And Playing On Newly Launch Casinos on: April 21, 2022, 11:34:41 PM
Honestly, not really. I usually don't play in newly launch casinos but whenever I do, I always do research first such as reading their Terms and Condition to see if they are plagiarized or put something unusual, double checking the license if they are really licensed, ask the chat support for some questions and lastly double checking if their games are fair or not assuming they are offering provably fair games.

That's where the community can help. I admit it's hard for me to determine if there's a plagiarism part of the Terms and Conditions. I will rely on those who are knowledgeable about that including determining how provably fair their games are.

But even if I don't know if there's plagiarizing or not, if I saw those new sites having a good discussion here in the forum, answering queries, and having good responsive traits, that might be the start of trusting them with a small amount.

We really have our own considerations before testing a site. We should just follow our own thought given we have good reasons to do it.
907  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: April 21, 2022, 11:15:36 PM
I read an update on Booker's injury. He's been ruled to be out indefinitely and will most likely miss games 3 and 4. Betting odds will be much more favorable to the Suns fans until he returns. I'm not too worried since Suns still have CP3 and they have a deep bench.
Good luck though, I saw them struggle without Booker and the Pelicans are a hungrier team. Having a combo of Ingram and CJ against CP3, I think I already know where this series is going. Anyway, good luck to whatever team you have chosen to place your bet on.

Struggling because they are still adopting the absence of Devin Booker.

For sure, after a game or two, Phoenix Suns will learn how to adjust for the absence of Devin Booker. This team already knows what to do. Pelicans might be hungrier but they are not consistent although I admire that guys out there are doing their best to upset the No. 1 seed in the Western Conference.

Before our speculation goes too much, let's wait for Game 3 and 4 and see what will happen.
908  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Inoue vs Donaire II discussion on: April 21, 2022, 11:01:11 PM
It seems scripted to me, who will go to Sauna and take a video from there knowing that its prohibited, either Casimero is too greedy to lose the weight, or really don’t want to fight Butler, guess what Sultan are more ready to take over.

Lol, mate. Can you even explain what's the advantage for Casimero to make that scripted?

Casimero is trolling but didn't realize what they doing is already a violation. Ignorance of the law excuses no one.

Anyway, since this is a thread for Inoue and Donaire let’s focus on this. This should not be just like a circus match, Donaire and Inoue are more professional and I’m confident that there will be no delay experience between these two boxer, many are already looking forward for this.


What do you mean that this fight should not be a circus match?

If ever there will be a delay, it's more about technical issues and not really because either of the boxers is trolling with each other.

But that topic should not be speculated here because a delay won't likely to happened as I don't see any reason for that to happen.
909  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: April 21, 2022, 10:48:28 PM
Yeah, same here, I think Morant will take over this game from the Memphis. The first game was just a fluke, we've seen how this team is made of in game 2.

Timberwolves didn't even show competitiveness in Game 2, too far from their performance in Game 1.

Memphis Grizzlies knows already how to counter this team and they will just do it again. The momentum I think is still on Grizzlies even playing at the Timberwolves arena.

If Luka plays tonight, Mavs will have a good chance to win.

For me, even no Luka Doncic, the chances of winning are still possible for them.

They are not losing their morale even though Luka is not there playing and they are behind big points. The will to win is always there. I expect a Brunson 2.0 performance this game as well as a good performance by his teammates.

I will stay with the Warriors still in game 3, too much firepower on their side and Nuggets will have a hard time defending the 3, Steph, Klay and Jordan Poole.

This makes me think hard. Warriors 1.7 Moneyline odds are very tempting.

Even though they dominated Nuggets in Games 1 & 2, they were still given pretty good odds.
910  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: April 21, 2022, 10:35:23 PM
I've read a post that if ever Meralco wins the 6th game, then the game 7th is going to be on the Philippine Arena. Well, it's already been said here IIRC a few days ago.
But the thing that caught the attention of the people on that post is about "IF". They've given a big meaning to that because they're telling that Ginebra is going to lose in advance.

I don't think that way. There should be really an advance update regarding the future venue and that is necessary as fans need to adjust. Traveling to Bulacan is not that simple for others compared to going to Araneta and MOA Arena especially those who lived in the capital.

It's not that PBA will just release the announcement where the venue for Game 7 should be after the Game 6. Don't take it with a wrong impression. Smiley

That's why the term "if necessary" is always present at any game series match, here or outside the local league.
911  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Casimero vs Butler ordered by WBO on: April 21, 2022, 10:19:43 PM
It's now official we have a fight we should all do away with Casimero - Butler OP should create a new title or anyone here should create a new thread for this exciting fight, it's unexpected but we'll have a good fight, of course, I'll go for Sultan here and I hope he wins.

We have a fight! Official Weigh-in Results for the Probellum Liverpool Main Event
Paul Butler: 117.8 🇬🇧
Jonas Sultan: 117.6 🇵🇭

With the fight approaching almost just around 24 hours, there's no need for a new thread. We can continue the discussion here.

OP is surely aware of the changes and instead, changing the title will be done.

Regarding the changes, looks like it was already planned but just become a good timing that Casimero was caught using a sauna. Even if no such incident happened, there will be other issues that they can throw at Casimero and that will result in a change in the fight. It's really surprising that Jonas Sultan is already there much ahead of the arrival of Casimero therefore, he already received a prompt about the sudden change.

I hope Casimero will learn a lesson from this. Being too arrogant won't help him. He is aging and might not get a good fight in the future.
912  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: April 20, 2022, 11:54:27 PM
Golden State Warriors are leading the series 2-0 now. They got a similar result to the first game by the way. But it was satisfying to see Curry and Thompson playing much better in the second game. Curry was the most scorer of the game by 34 points and Thompson got 21 points. Maybe Thompson is still struggling to bring back his old times here but he is still doing fine too. For Nuggets, there was no other player than Jokic who was playing great. He got 26 points and 11 rebounds and had a good game again. This might be a much easier series than Warriors expected seemingly.

I thought Denver Nuggets can at least give the Golden State Warriors, not an easy win. They are doing great this season and the Nuggets are also one of the best teams in the NBA. It's ok being down to 0-2 but in those 2 games, they are not even close to the final score made by the Warriors.

Game 3 is their turning point. It's considered as they already lose the series if they will still lose it. It's hard to win coming from a 0-3 deficit.

They should not give the Warriors an easy win even if they will lose the series.
913  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ( NBA ) Nets vs Celtics Game 2 - let's discuss on: April 20, 2022, 11:42:12 PM
OP, do you place your bet? If yes, your chance is good as Brooklyn Nets is having a 10+ lead.

But Celtics Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown are still silent. If they will explore, later on, they might have a chance to cut the lead. Both team superstars are still silent and their role player teammates are doing much of the scoring.

The second quarter is approaching.
914  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: April 19, 2022, 11:50:23 PM
Curry had a great game, but so did everyone on that Warriors team as well. Poole seems to be growing into a great player as well, it is really unfair to the league that they got another good player Cheesy. Now they have curry, klay, draymond, wiggins and now Poole as well Cheesy.

This is just getting insane at this stage, doubt that they could put all five in at the same time, just doesn't work when you look at the positions, even if you put Draymond at C on that situation, who will play the PF position? Klay? Wiggins? It just doesn't work, I get the small ball, but that is tiny ball at that stage Cheesy. But, it is just so deadly that it is unbelievable and I believe they could go for the title yet again.

That's actually the exact 5 they threw on the court and labeled the lethal rotation.  Golden state took over the game and stretched the lead with that rotation.  Small lineup but unguardable.  Who are you going to double or take away?  Everyone of those players can create their own shot. 

Since the league nowadays doesn't need much of big guys dominating the inside, having a small lineup is effective for some teams and the best team example for that is the Golden State Warriors. No need to put much pressure on the defense as they will just focus on their offense. Since most of the guys here do have a specialty in the outside shooting, that's what they focus on more.

Seems effective as how can a team can even defend an almost entire lineup that has a good field goal percentage whether on the perimeter, inside shooting, or 3-points area. It's a problem to take care of by the opposing team.
915  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: High Rollers on: April 19, 2022, 11:40:11 PM
being able to hit such a jackpot is objectively a rare event ...
who knows how much he will have played before being able to win this amount Roll Eyes ... at least in this case there is a happy ending...

It's like putting everything in one session then win or lose, they will accept their fate as they understand the risk they are dealing with.

Since their fate resulted in a win, the risk they put on that crazy bet now becomes worth it.

For sure, every loss since the beginning of their gambling journey is now covered by that big winnings. But since they already feel the experience of hitting that big winning, they will try to experience it again and will continue to do gambling with that crazy bet.
916  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which sports betting picks and prediction channel you watch? on: April 19, 2022, 11:30:44 PM
Upon searching there are lots of them. I'm pretty sure they can help in deciding who to put our money on, can you suggest some of them?

I think all sites that give pre-game predictions, speculations, and analysis you will see while searching are all good. As long as they provide some explanations for why the prediction turned out like that, that's already good. You have no choice after all but to believe in those predictions that you will encounter since you don't even understand the part of their analysis as you are not familiar with it.

Try to make a test. Risk some money and feel the actual betting on those sports you want to try. Nothing beats the real user experience compared to just reading suggestions.
917  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Canelo Alvarez vs Dmitry Bivol - May 7 on: April 19, 2022, 11:19:15 PM
Both! It's still not yet decided because their 1st fight is a draw while the 2nd fight really belongs to him, I might see that as his reason because if he had been the one who have lost during their 2nd encounter for sure he would ask for a rematch/trilogy because he cannot just accept that fact. But the opposite happened and he didn't gave GGG the trilogy he asked. Canelo cannot deny the fact that GGG is the toughest and strongest opponent that's why he's just hiding behind those reasons that there's nothing more to prove.

Just a question as I really don't know what other details happened before, did GGG complain about his loss against Canelo Alvarez on their 2nd meetup?

Because if no, it means the boxing community is not satisfied with Canelo winning that match, and they requested a mass call for a trilogy which Canelo didn't buy since he was sure himself that he won those 2 previous fights with GGG.

If only this supposed trilogy happened last 2019, Canelo would surely struggle unlike now that almost all of the advantages are on his side.

If the trilogy happened that year, we can expect that GGG is still on his beast even though he's much older than Canelo.

But I'm sure GGG still has it when he faced Canelo. The reason is, he really has the goal to beat Canelo to end their story. The adrenaline is there and will unleash on the day of the fight.
918  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Inoue vs Donaire II discussion on: April 15, 2022, 09:30:10 PM
BTW, Casimero is just waiting to fight the winner of the rematch, but it seems like he is getting the attention.  Grin

He don't have to wait yet until the fight with Paul Butler finished. He can only wait for the winner of this match between Inoue and Donaire, after he successfully defend his WBA Title against the challenger, Paul Butler. I'm sure he's not thinking about that first since there's a task first that needs to be solved. If Donaire wins, you are right that a trilogy will take place against him and Inoue. Casimero, if he wins against Butler, has to wait for long unless he find a way to manage first to fight Donaire and let Inoue wait instead.

Casimero's fight is about to take place, this is going a big and entertaining fight then few months from now, another good fight between Donaire and Inoue will take place.

What a good fights on our lineup to watch.
919  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: April 15, 2022, 09:20:09 PM
Game 7 it is, I guess we will be seeing that based on the way the teams are playing. Looks so scripted to me  TBH, but at the same time, it's exciting to watch as both teams have really shown their capability to win.

If the series will end at Game 7, it looks scripted to you? Can you explain? Is that the basis to called the series scripted if it's reached Game 7? Therefore, you are saying that all series match should not reached Game 7 to prove to people that the game is not scripted? Since when reaching Game 7 becomes a sinful activity for both teams? Are they not allowed to reach the Final stage? If the series closed at Game 4 or 5, we can now call the series as not scripted? Sick to see this scripted or game-fixing where they didn't even watch the game.

As a spectator that claiming it looks scripted, you should give example on where you think the game becomes scripted. Don't just accused without specifying the parts of the game where the actual script is now taking place.
920  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your NBA Champion this season? on: April 15, 2022, 09:08:26 PM
instead they are waiting for better odd and aside from that, they also wait for any news that may affect the status of their team,

With only a day left before the playoffs, there might be no odds movement from the top teams since they are now waiting for the playoffs night. No injuries unless being tested positive by the virus. We can also expect that no major problem in the roster within a day.

Only those teams who are playing at the play-in will have their odds only changed for the next NBA Champion this year. With that said, there's no harm choosing the bet right now. As far as my current observation will apply, Milwaukee Bucks is my preferred team to be the next NBA Champion.
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