I've been self employed for a decade, didn't "cut corners" and wasn't "priced out". Maybe your experience tells you something different.
That's great, and useless information. Anecdotes are fun, but data paints the real picture. Anti-competitive practices by rent-seeking billion dollar transnationals and hardcore corruption are the name of the game for modern capitalism. Democracy languishes. Justice is thoroughly anti-social and largely farcical. This system is well beyond reform. |
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If you're wealthy enough to afford sacrificing all your bitcoin wealth for the sake of some misguided ideal, than yes you do have the liberty to behave like a financially moronic petulant child. The rest of us have bo such choice, the fork which survives with value is the fork we'll all be using, whether or not we like the implications.
Please stop and check your privilege next time before giving strangers potentially devastating financial advice.
Don't be such a drama queen. I never suggested anyone follow any "advice". I simply suggested that one not be fooled by people trying to push them in either direction. You seem to fear freedom and responsibility. Lucky for non-idealists like you, you can simply retain control of your private keys on both sides of the fork and wait until the smoke clears. You can let everyone else choose for you. You mean like every other bitcoiner with a lick of sense? Yes, I do recognize that I lack the ability to drive a 4 billion dollar market in any direction. Do you? You probably think your vote for president matters too, huh? |
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This was written for him to be happened as every bad action will bring just bad and negative in life.
Wrong. Karma isn't real, the world is not a just place, and your government is not your friend. You are demonstrating Just World Fallacy, the belief that those who win the game of life earned it, and those who lose deserve it. It's moronic and it needs to die like all other myths and superstitions. Welcome to the real world dipshit |
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Isn't it refreshing? Normally the board of directors just decides what is best (for them of course) and does it!
It's different now. Don't let these opposing sides fool you. You are responsible. Doesn't it feel good to have some responsibility for your own future?
If there is a block chain split on the main Bitcoin block chain, anyone holding coins before the split is in a powerful position to help choose the future of Bitcoin.
The devs can't make that choice for you. Businesses can't make that choice for you. Miners can't make that choice for you.
You will have coins on both sides of the fork. You can sell coins that have the properties you disagree with. You can use that money to purchase more coins that have the properties you agree with.
The devs won't develop worthless coins (well they might, but who cares). The miners won't mine a chain with worthless block rewards. Businesses won't accept coins with no value.
A fork is not a bad thing. This is an opportunity for the free market to work. Don't let them fool you into giving up your vote before the fork.
It is entirely possible that the future of Bitcoin lies down two different paths. Both coins can hold value if people value the properties of both coins.
Don't fear the responsibility you've obtained, embrace it.
If you're wealthy enough to afford sacrificing all your bitcoin wealth for the sake of some misguided ideal, than yes you do have the liberty to behave like a financially moronic petulant child. The rest of us have bo such choice, the fork which survives with value is the fork we'll all be using, whether or not we like the implications. Please stop and check your privilege next time before giving strangers potentially devastating financial advice. |
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In the end he knew about the strict drug laws in the US and he still broke it. “The strategic adversary is fascism... the fascism in us all, in our heads and in our everyday behavior, the fascism that causes us to love power, to desire the very thing that dominates and exploits us.” ― Michel Foucault |
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Even if he did commit all those horrible crimes people say he did he should at least get the chance of parole.
Otherwise what's the point of the criminal justice system? Isn't it called correctional facility and not storage facility? You mistake the purpose of this life sentence. It's not to punish Ross Ulbricht, it's to intimidate all the other potential Ross Ulbrichts out there. And it's not going to work, because the Silk Road was very useful and therefore very profitable. In capitalism profit finds a way to be made, just as water always finds a way downhill. |
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We live in an anarchy of the bankers/rentseekers/those with/big government What we have is called a neo-fascist polyglot oligarchy, not anarchy (without rulers). |
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"Ross got life in prison, without parole for running a website which challenged the bankers' supremacy."
It didn't challenge bankers supremacy. Not in the same universe. And it also had murder for hire.
"On the other hand, Hillary Clinton has indirectly caused millions of deaths in Bosnia, Serbia, Libya.etc and she is running for POTUS now.
If there is justice, then it should be applicable to everyone. You can't say that some people are very special, and the laws are not applicable to them. "
Justice for everyone means making the powerful accountable to justice not letting the less powerful do whatever they want. Politicians and bankers should be held accountable to the law and we need to take actions to make that the case. However, RU should be accountable too.
And how do you propose that happens if the powerful control the entire system? How do you take away their power over the system and the less powerful and judge them accordingly? With glorious revolution of course, comrade! " A lifetime of wealth and power have made you blind in one eye. We are the many, you are the few. And when the many stop fearing the few..." -High Sparrow  |
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It depends on the prison. If you don't work in some prisons you get written up. A few write ups you may be reclassified and wished you worked. They may be forced into lock down if they refuse work. There are prisons where they do not have to work. In some prisons you can be sent to solitary confinement for not working. This is not fun camp, this is prison.
Is it? Because the US prison system looks more like a profit driven rape-gulag to me. This is prison. “Better out than in” is an unofficial motto of the Norwegian Correctional Service, which makes a reintegration guarantee to all released inmates. It works with other government agencies to secure a home, a job and access to a supportive social network for each inmate before release; Norway’s social safety net also provides health care, education and a pension to all citizens. (...) Spending on the Halden prison runs to more than $93,000 per inmate per year, compared with just $31,000 for prisoners in the United States (...)" Halden is what you get from a society that values life and minimizing suffering more than profit margins. If someone shot you and your family and you survived I don't think you'd accept any amount of "yeah but the governments way worse" argumentation.
Strawman argument. Ross didn't kill anyone, he has not been convicted of killing anyone, he has not been convicted of hiring people to kill anyone. He is innocent of these crimes until proven guilty in a court of law. |
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Apparently the logs show RU making shady deals with hitmen. If true then he is clearly a dangerous individual who's sense of power went to his head. We are talking about six people. One of the people was indeed an undercover agent, and if they were "entraping" him; good. This isn't entrapment for prostitution, he was trying to kill somebody. This is a fair point, and I agree if he truly has such a callous disregard for life he doesn't belong in society. However, Ross hasn't faced trial for that alleged crime, so it's moot when discussing the life-without-parole sentence he just received. Innocent until proven guilty. What about the government doing this or that? What about it? Its a separate issue. Just because the governments crap doesn't mean one can do whatever one wants. Hypocrisy is never a separate issue. This cuts to the core of what justice is supposed to mean. Governments don't seek justice, individuals do. Governments seek control at the expense of justice. Yep, this is why all ethical people must seek to abolish government. |
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Apparently the logs show RU making shady deals with hitmen. If true then he is clearly a dangerous individual who's sense of power went to his head. We are talking about six people. One of the people was indeed an undercover agent, and if they were "entraping" him; good. This isn't entrapment for prostitution, he was trying to kill somebody. This is a fair point, and I agree if he truly has such a callous disregard for life he doesn't belong in society. However, Ross hasn't faced trial for that alleged crime, so it's moot when discussing the life-without-parole sentence he just received. Innocent until proven guilty. What about the government doing this or that? What about it? Its a separate issue. Just because the governments crap doesn't mean one can do whatever one wants. Hypocrisy is never a separate issue. This cuts to the core of what justice is supposed to mean. |
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"So the destruction of Bitcoin is now official?"
No, but a shitty childish clickbait thread title is.
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That's not the same. The money wasn't created to explicitly buy illegal things but this market was. And just because he didn't personally kill anyone doesn't mean anything. Hiring someone to do the job is just as bad as the intention is the same. Had he not done that I'd have a totally different opinion of his but I think he certainly acted like a drug kingpin as the power of being one obviously went to his head.
Yeah what tipped my opinion of him was the fact that there was suspicions that he ordered hits on people. It was never actually part of the charges against him - but I'm not exactly surprised that there were suspicions. I don't necessarily condone what he did with SR - but those hits really make me feel that he does deserve the life sentence he got in the end. Same, but it wasn't just suspicion. He actually did order them. Not only was he caught in the stings by the undercover cops but he kept journals and chat logs detailing the entire process of SR and the hits. He was very very stupidly niave and now he has paid the ultimate price. It is not unlikely that any "hitmen" he was talking to were actually government agents. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if they approached him, they get caught doing this sort of entrapment bullshit all the time. |
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What the heck did my post have to do with the bible? lol ADD much?
Find me a court of law in the USA where they don't have a bible. It's symbolic of religion's influence on our justice system, that same blind misguided morality that once burned "witches" alive is now putting this man into a dungeon for the rest of his life. What does that have to do with the decision of the court? That is a whole other topic you just introduced for some odd reason that I have yet to figure out. The typical american Judge is old and out of touch with people in their thirties, they live in a different world than we do. Read Ross's letter pleading with the judge for mercy, it's chock full of desperate bullshit appealing to religion. Half the reason we still have a failed war on (people) drugs going on is because at least 77% of americans have had their critical thinking skills short-circuited by religious brainwashing. Bronze age ethics doesn't work so well in the 21st century, but the morals of gods are immune to reason. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-nearly-8-in-10-americans-believe-in-angels/These people are judges and jurors, deciding the fates of fellow americans every day, and nearly four out of five of them believe in fucking angels. I'll let that sink in. "Belief is primarily tied to religion, with 88 percent of Christians, 95 percent of evangelical Christians and 94 percent of those who attend weekly religious services of any sort saying they believe in angels.
But belief in angels is fairly widespread even among the less religious. A majority of non-Christians think angels exist, as do more than 4 in 10 of those who never attend religious services." These people are dangerously stupid and deadly ignorant, and they are ruining lives. Every day. |
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What the heck did my post have to do with the bible? lol ADD much?
Find me a court of law in the USA where they don't have a bible. It's symbolic of religion's influence on our justice system, that same blind misguided morality that once burned "witches" alive is now putting this man into a dungeon for the rest of his life. |
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They didn't get that much for the coin. I bet they didn't even recover the cost of the international investigation. If they did make money on it they will spend that now. They need their slushie machines. It's pennies from heaven, right?The cost of his incarceration will hit future generations.
Perhaps in more than one way. |
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According to law, it is. I guess it is a matter of opinion. Some would rather have life and some would rather be dead.
Is this in the same court of law where everybody swears on a book of fiction endorsed as a source of truth? Why would anyone take such an institution seriously? The bible is a bad joke, just like Amerikkkan Justice and american lawmaking. Well considering the fact he also forfeited $184 Million, I would say the US is ahead on the financial cost for housing him for the next 50 years or so. If he had been a congressman or other member of the Old Boys Club, the bribe to avoid this consequence would have cost 1/100th that 184 mil. We need some folks like this guy, dispensing justice to the powerful equally as they do to the meek.  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3095742/SPOILER-ALERT-Winter-finally-comes-Game-Thrones-Cersei-Lannister-gets-deserves-Gift.html |
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My feelings captured succinctly in this statement to the court by one Eugene V. Debs: " Your Honor, years ago I recognized my kinship with all living beings, and I made up my mind that I was not one bit better than the meanest on earth. I said then, and I say now, that while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." Honestly though, I'm not selfless enough to serve a prison sentence like that for the sake of my family or anyone else. I don't know about Ross, but I've already experienced more than my fair share of suffering. Kudos to Ross if he can ride it out, but if I was him I'd find some way to kill myself rather than exist as walking dead in prison conditions. To be fair though, the thought of even one year in prison makes me feel that way, public school indoctrination alone was almost enough to drive me mad. Remember kids, there is nothing to fear in death. Only suffering is worth being afraid of. Yours in compassion and solidarity, World Citizen Beliathon  |
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Do you (personally) think it would be a good idea for Satoshi to return?
Either now, or in the future?
And if he did, how do you think the rest of the world would react?
(Especially some governments)
As Satoshi is a pseudonym representing an unknown entity or entities, how do you know the creator(s) of bitcoin ever left? |
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to use or not to use brain wallet I think is a careful choice you need brainpower to make.
A safe rule: If you're unsure whether or not you're savvy enough to use it correctly, you're not savvy enough to use it correctly. You should have absolutely no doubt in your mind when you commit wealth to your chosen form of cold storage. |
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