I was sitting here wondering how long that would take you, mic.   First thing that crossed my mind too.

Some excellent and thought-provoking reading, LA / V8..

And hearty congrats on reaching the status that many here on the WO probably reckoned you already had.  Keep it up, eh?

No point in not being optimistic in this guessing game...  So, OK I will pull a guess out of my rear end:

The USD price of XMR depends on BTC, which we seem to have been rising and falling with, rather than working inversely to of late.

As long as Bitcoin turns up out of the bear market then I hope we will see $7500 - $8500 for end of year BTC and with that XMR at $135 - $165.   To pin it down?   $151

That said, if Elrippo's Friend is closer, I will be very happy to be wrong.

I confess that while I have no RL BTC mates either, I have mixed feelings about ever going to a random meet up.  It's a pain being surrounded by no-coiners, but the contrarian in me fears that a meet up might be about as grimly enjoyable as a school reunion.

I do like the WO Support Group™ though - it would be awful going through all this without some fellow travelers to share the ups and downs with. 

Frankly, that is probably why the WO is essential.  When it's boring I am not alone.  At rocket and moon times it's been a joy raising a glass to virtual friends.  When things have been down it's often been a pick-me-up... there have been embattled times when a Sparta meme has helped me sleep more soundly, I can't deny that.  It's why I wanted to fight for it when Theymos felt obliged to put it on ice.

On balance I am probably likely to remain 'virtual-only', but I will try and stay open-minded.  I like to party and I'd be tempted to look up a few of the undoubtedly likeable souls here if i was passing through their neck of the woods.

However, strolling to a roll-up of people who were BTC-heads who just happened to be near to me?  I doubt it.

Yes - I think two or three of you nailed this - but you have it exactly.

It's a great town for strolling around for a few days.   Unless you're a vegetarian.

Only just back from the other side of town.

Well done TopTort777 for getting Prague first

and serveria.com, micgoossens, kirreev070, Bitsinmyhead, kenzawak and cAPSLOCK for nailing it.

The full picture:



I wish I had manageed to get some of Prague's 'eye candy' in shot as there is plenty - but hey, go find out for yourselves, I am currently reserved.

/end

On Topic?  A nice Friday pump, let's hope it carries on all weekend!

More pixels...

Not France, nor UK or Italy - one of you was close though...

You have to get the street junction, according to Hairy WO Rules, IIRC.

Let's see if you sleuths are up for another puzzle...



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Chucked you a supportive merit, I miss her (for I am pretty sure Tera was a she) too.  I also learned a few things from Tera's posts.

She was pretty good in 2013 / 2014 (and was hated) and was right to be bearish this time (and was hated again).  But she wasn't totally wrong, just coldly realistic - and IMHO much misunderstood.  The odd, sophisticated contrarian is actually a good thing at times. Opposing views, even if they are predicting 'pain to come' are wise to at least factor in, rather than simply shout down. Otherwise this thread is risking just being an echo chamber.

I reckon BTC will inevitably exceed the last ATH by a lot in the end - but surely long term hodlers (of all people) have learned that there is never gain without pain.  It is just how it is - but it is also how the gain is truly earned.  If it was easy, every fucker would be rich.

So, Hairy - work on the charts and if you start to get it right, I for one will be grateful. OK, not for the pain, if that is what is due - but for an idea it might be coming? Sure.

A lot of people melted away, at times there was just Chart Buddy auto-posting for three or four posts, which meant no one had posted anything for hours.

With Gox and the slow grind down it was just dull, felt like an ATH was maybe never going to be seen again.  It wasn't despair, it was like watching a life support machine.  Early 2015 was probably the worst, when it went under $200.

I was under water then, so just bought a load more to cost average down and didn't log in as often.

You could catch up on a week's posts pretty easily, though.  The good old days, eh..?

All good and undeniable points.  I would add that 'privacy' has value, too - even if only to ensure true fungibility.   I don't want 'tainted' coins to be an issue - and it's obvious they could be.  What is traceable is 'bannable'.  BTC may incorporate this down the line, but right now a coin that is private (untraceable) by default has a use-case.

Interesting read, pretty decently argued, too. Thanks.

I am not sure the ETF is the holy grail, but it certainly will change the game.  Short term, this will be positive and probably flip the bear market sentiment into bullish.  Long term, it will possibly mean wall street has Bitcoin inside the tent.   

If it ends this bull market cycle earlier, I have to look forward to it - who wants another two years of this dull grind?

But what 'maturity' will mean?  Well, we may rue what we wished for....

So you can be first in the queue...? 

I reckon BTC needs to bust 7300 properly if XMR is to sail over .020

Right now BTC is not quite managing it.

For sure - the camp is falling into disarray and of course the money (their BTC) is running out - at the same time as problems with its bread and butter products.

The centre cannot hold for much longer under these conditions, they need a miracle after the hubris of the whole Bcash debacle.   Jihan is no fool, but the friends he chose do not speak in favour of the wisdom of his judgement.  You cannot beat the market's sentiment that BCH is not worth the price Jihan and his allies have been paying BTC out to try to keep it at.

A quote from The Scottish Play?  Cool!

So who dies this night? The rest of the shitcoins?   I'd settle for just BCH ;-)

Well - it looks like the daily prediction (for today) on that site was just a little, teeny weeny bit...

TOTALLY FUCKING WRONG

Ha! Merited.

Not much. 

Prediction is 12% down today, wipe out in a year (under $2). Let's see if it's right today.  It might get lucky - but frankly it looks utter nonsense to me.

In summary:  a waste of a click.

Shit - it was on my 'to do list' today.

I was pretty annoyed to have claimed already and even had postal confirmation of receipt of claim, previously.  

I have got to find the exact amount again - hassle enough since I thought it was done... But now this?   Ugh.

You're not wrong, he hasn't the stature of the real greats, nor stood the test of time perhaps, but hey he scrapes an honourable mention, if only for reflecting life in a totalitarian state.  'Worth a read' is about right.