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981  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POS/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold and asset backed. on: August 12, 2014, 08:33:34 PM
hi. yes I created the file. ive now got connections but no movement past block 428
blok 428 same
   Same here.  Deleted everything in the roaming directory except wallet and conf, and restarted.  New client down loaded the blockchain to 428 and hangs.

Debug show the client was created at 13:12 today. 

982  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: btc-arbs.com - Update: dead HYIP, Refund progress 17/07/2014 on: August 12, 2014, 03:13:44 AM
Original email sent: 23rd June
PM sent: Today (9th Aug)
Total deposits: 72.715 BTC

Haven't heard anything yet.

Message and first payment sent.

More refund payments being made in 10 minutes.

PM Pages left: 4

What does a guy have to do to even be acknowledged?  PM and Email sent 6/8.  You must have skipped my PM because your way past that date. 

2 New Pm's send after you said your Email was shut down (disregard first one).  This guy PM's you with a big account and somehow he's getting a refund already.  Huh

I'm not even mad about being skipped over for the refund, I just would like to know you got my PM's, and agree with the amount.   

     Thanks and keep Arbing..
983  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POS/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold and asset backed. on: August 11, 2014, 11:04:30 PM
That ICO went quickly!!!

Any chance we can just get our dividends in QBK?

I don't want a card in my wallet with Bitcoin (I don't know where it'll be accepted locally) -
I don't want to verify my identity and home address or have to do more work to get my dividend...
I'd like to maximize my Dividend and have it immediately. (W/O international shipping times and expenses)
QBK or BTC seem to exchange quite easily on Poloniex.  
Please just send me QBK, as I'm used to receiving dividends in the same currency....


I see what chilly2k is saying...
Could the payout percentages also be simplified and streamlined to __% across the board for holders?  All one pool.

Anyone else feel this way???

I'm on the Dev team, but I'm trying to simplify and challenge the team to make it easier and more rewarding for QBK coinholders....

I personally prefer this route also myself, it's much less to deal with and also generates more efficiency in general and no verification process. Also people will earn a bit more if we don't have the card expense I guess too. Just my personal opinion, this I came to realize as most people in Crypto don't like to show their identities, unlike us who have to because we made the coin.

And I would prefer BTC. as the payout, but it wouldn't kill me either way.  Prefer not going thought the identity stuff. 

I thought the card was a cool method of payment.  But if it's costing you,  why are you using that.  They should be paying you for distributing their cards and getting them more clients...  Smiley   Do I hear residual payments??? 

Maybe you can offer all three.  Make the bag holders sign up to at least verify their QBK wallet, and choose a payment method.  Card, BTC, or QBK.   
984  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POS/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold and asset backed. on: August 11, 2014, 09:59:48 PM
That ICO went quickly!!!

Any chance we can just get our dividends in QBK?

I don't want a card in my wallet with Bitcoin (I don't know where it'll be accepted locally) -
I don't want to verify my identity and home address or have to do more work to get my dividend...
I'd like to maximize my Dividend and have it immediately. (W/O international shipping times and expenses)
QBK or BTC seem to exchange quite easily on Poloniex.  
Please just send me QBK, as I'm used to receiving dividends in the same currency....


I see what chilly2k is saying...
Could the payout percentages also be simplified and streamlined to __% across the board for holders?  All one pool.

Anyone else feel this way???

I'm on the Dev team, but I'm trying to simplify and challenge the team to make it easier and more rewarding for QBK coinholders....

   Can't you just transfer the BTC from the card to your wallet?  I don't know much about the card.  

   I actually agree and like the level concept.  It encourages people to baghold more and more, It's just the payout scheme I think I have a problem with.

Here is one team member saying it's based on the number of coins in the wallet.


Can someone explain to me as if I were a 11 year old, what does PoB mean and do?

POBH = Proof of Baghold, or POS that's better than POS.

In a nutshell, in addition to your 5% per annum POS stake interest, you also get a monthly dividend bonus commensurate
with the total number of coins you have in your wallet.

There were other posts from team members that implied it was base on 1 share per level you are in.  This was in the discussion about breaking up wallets to get more share.  I can't seem to scroll back far enough to quote.  

This could all be a language barrier too.  Maybe I'm interpreting incorrectly....  Smiley
985  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POS/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold and asset backed. on: August 11, 2014, 08:32:13 PM
MINI BAGHOLDERS: 20%  - 100-999 QIBUCKS
MIDI BAGHOLDERS: 15%  -  1000-9999 QIBUCKS
MAXI BAGHOLDERS: 15% - 10000 QIBUCKS PLUS

Whether one has 999 or 100 Qibucks that would qualify for minibag holder only.
The pool is set so that those starting with a small number are rewarded fairly compared with larger holders.
The Pool idea incentivises holders to increase their holdings over time.

That still doesn't help at all.    The 2 answers I can see are

a) All accounts with > 100 Qibucks are somehow verified.  Then are placed in their bagholder category.  Payout are then based on which category they fall into.
   So all bag holders split the Mini Bag 20%.  The midi and maxi bagholders split the midi 15% and then the maxi bagholders split the maxi 15%.
   it doesn't matter how many coins you hold, it just matters what category you fall into.  

b) The category you fall into tell you which pools you will share.  But your actual share is based on the number of coins you hold.  

Very simple example   500K coins


                                    Earning based            Earning based
                                    on a)                          on B)          

  1 person buys 250K        .03456                       .125
  5           buy    10K        .03456                        .05
  10          buy 9.999K         .009566                   .007749
 1000       buy   100         .0001968                    .00004

if the answer is a) above then
    Mini bag holders are 1016 and would each get .0001968 th of the mini 20%  .20/1016
    Midi are 16    so each would get .00937    or .15/16          
    Maxi are 6    so each would get  .025    or  .15/6

if the answer was b) The the coin totals in the cats are
    Mini 499,990 coins   .20/499990 = .00000040      Total .00000040  / coin
    Midi 399,990 coins    .15/399990 = .000000375   Total .000000775 / coin
    Maxi 300,000 coins   .15/300000 = .0000005       Total .000001275 / coin

I think I'm shooting myself i the foot (I'm just in the midi class) If the current calculations are based on A then your payouts are
greater percentage wise to smaller accounts.  But if you go to B I'll make less money....  Smiley But you would encourage larger holders.  

The numbers were super exaggerated to make the point, but statistically they should be very close.    

Prove me wrong.  Don't just say I'm wrong.  
 
                    Thanks  Bob

  
986  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POS/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold and asset backed. on: August 11, 2014, 07:27:18 PM
Maybe someone can clarify this for me. 

I assumed the levels were just a base number of coins you needed to hold to be rewarded. 
I also assumed that the reward would be based on the actual number of coins held, and not just one share fits all.

 So if i have 999 QBK's vs 100 QBK's, both would get a bagholder reward, but the reward for 999 QBK would be roughly 9X greater.

And if it's up for a vote, I believe this would be the fairest, and would vote for this.  It also eliminates splitting wallets to increase BH rewards.

I would hate to be the guy with 9999 QBK,  He's trying to get that last one to put himself in the next bracket, but he's only rewarded as much as the guy with 1000 QBK. 

             Thanks Bob

PS, any news on the wallet sync situation? OR is there a better forum for support and tech news? 
   
987  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POS/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold and asset backed. on: August 11, 2014, 02:50:06 PM

You have 10 BTC. You buy 10 BTC worth of your coins from your own ICO. The 10 BTC goes back to your group. Now you also have the coins.
You don't see a problem with this?
Your plan hasn't changed? Where is the skype verification in the OP? Why are you now covering the costs for the cards?

This is like a very poor attempt at a ponzie scheme.
By the looks of the volume you guys probably have around 70-80% of your own coins (which you got for free).
Sell them at any price for 100% profit > use a small percentage of that profit to pay people for bag holding > this creates hype > repeat.
Wow you didn't even need an explorer to do the ICO? lmao


Except that we don't own 70 - 80% of QiBuck. I have exactly 2711 QBK and change. Other members of the team
have more (but not the amounts that you are suggesting), but that was bought with their OWN money and not
investor funds.

Since it's all going to be public record anyway, each member of the team was paid 0.5 BTC for their work. That's
not enough to by up the lion's share of QiBuck.

Ok Im not anything to do with the Dev team just a crypto investor , looked at like it , have had a lot to do with a few of the Devs , on polo and so on , i have 5k QBK , so of the 500k 1% and I know a hell of a lot of other people that have bought so to say Devs have 70-80% is totally stupid basically!!
Right. You have a nice cult going here I would hate to ruin it.
FYI you should hope the devs bring in atleast $4 000 in profit every month so you can break even in about a year.
Seriously If you have QBK in your bag sell and limit your so called loss, if you have none why the hell are you here flapping your gums, did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed and found that your boyfriend has stolen your handbag or something?
Crypto , whether its QBK,BTC,LTC or any of the other 1000+ coins out there is a gamble yes , like any investment whether crypto,fiat or frikken pork bellies , its all gambling , dang getting up in the morning and walking out side is a gamble, so if you dont want to gamble at anything , wrap yourself in cotton wool and go rock in a corner !!
Im no expert, never claimed to be, I read it , I ask questions , I feel i understand were they want this to go!! The Devs i have had interaction with have always been honest and upfront , so I have no reason to doubt what they have said and yes I have put trust in them , from the observations of the way they have conducted themselves, not a cult following , yes a following like every other coin out there they have a following , so if thats a cult following then every single coin has a cult following , if you have any coins and following them , then hey your in a cult to!!
Like i said if you got any QBK sell them and go away or if you havent go away then you havent lost anything , but then you havent gained anything either !!
I posted here because I wanted to see how a dev could possibly defend such an obviously not thought out terrible idea. Also to see if there are seriously people so unskilled at basic math or just incapable of reading a full post that they will throw money at anything an call it gambling.
"These internet people seem nice and its such a gamble crossing the street anyways, I might as well give them $1000."
Yup. I guess this really is crypto. Bye

btw: if you learn to look both ways before crossing the street you really increase your chances on that gamble

   Brings a whole new meaning to the words "Monday morning Quarterback"  Smiley 
988  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: btc-arbs.com - Update: dead HYIP, Refund progress 17/07/2014 on: August 08, 2014, 01:38:15 PM
a. Some stupid person got my refund email shut down. Probably the same person who has been sending threats and attacking the refund process. I don't know why people are fighting the refunds. There is nothing to gain. Everyone will be paid back. If this was a scam I would not be here and would not have repaid more than 100 bitcoins so far.
That means our spreadsheet is quite wrong. The good thing is, we will get fully refunded faster than expected. According to BTC-Arbs it was less than 500 BTC in total. Refunded more then 100 within 2 months. So we may all get refunded till summer next year.

yeah, would be uber-cool. But, wait... how comes that I only received 0,2 btc (!!!) out of 30,6 ?? less than 1% ?
I just hope it will really speed up quickly...

because most of that 100 btc went to btc - arbs imaginary friends because he stole your money.

That does raise a big red flag.  <500 BTC total invested.  100 BTC already returned, means he's already refunded 20% of his obligation.  At this rate he should be completely payed off in 8 more months. 
            Some smaller accounts have been paid in full and from what I remember they were all <= .2 BTC.   I could be missing something, and I'm not going back in the thread and re-reading every post. It just seems that the 100 BTC number sounds awfully large.     

    Still patiently waiting for a reply to my new PM... 
989  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: btc-arbs.com - Update: dead HYIP, Refund progress 17/07/2014 on: August 07, 2014, 01:44:44 PM
IMPORTANT UPDATE

a. Some stupid person got my refund email shut down. Probably the same person who has been sending threats and attacking the refund process. I don't know why people are fighting the refunds. There is nothing to gain. Everyone will be paid back. If this was a scam I would not be here and would not have repaid more than 100 bitcoins so far.

IF YOU SENT AN EMAIL AND DID NOT RECEIVE A REPLY SEND A PM HERE INSTEAD.

b. Right now there is only 1 page of PM messages that have no reply yet.

c. More payments sent.

PM sent. 
990  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: btc-arbs.com - Update: dead HYIP, Refund progress 17/07/2014 on: August 07, 2014, 12:06:21 AM
Hey BTC-Arb,

Can you post an update on when we can expect the 2nd round of payments? I was hoping for something like 'Round 1: x out of n investors repaid'. I think this will help us see progress and resolve some more skepticism as it seems like your making more payments than people are posting and acknowledge they've received a payment. I don't think this would take much extra work on your end as I'm sure you have some spreadsheet tracking all this and you can just post it in your payments being made soon messages.

I think this will help with transparency and allow everyone to be patient, at least it will for me.

   I think you're in for a little bit of a wait.  I sent a pm and Email on 6/8.  I haven't even been acknowledged yet, let alone a first payment or schedule.   
991  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: btc-arbs.com - Update: dead HYIP, Refund progress 17/07/2014 on: August 01, 2014, 05:01:13 PM
Yikes , A death threat?   a little harsh over stolen property...Will you atleast tell us what page u are on on pm's now? There was only 3 pages left awhile ago. Now that the price is finally fluctuating to arb. People are complaining about not getting paid back fast in incriments when the majority have not even recieved the first estimated pay date.. Give us some different news about something related to a time frame please

+1
Chilly2k, have you seen a pm,  email, or refund? I would be happy to get a blank message from him.. Just to know I'm not a illusion. I have another account that I never put on the spreadsheet because it was similar to my other name ...didnt want people thinking that is was just made up and make people loose confidence. I would give him that account if he would just respond to me Suttonh99

    Nothing from BTC-arbs.  I sent an Email and followed up with a PM on June 8th.  I actually had 7 accounts.  The Email had all of the details, the PM just said to see the Email. 

   Maybe because the details were in the Email, he ignored my PM and figured he would handle the Email when he got to those.  Maybe because it was multiple accounts he stuck it to the back of the list, either way this is all speculation, only BTC-arbs knows what he's doing. 

   Like you, a brief Email (I hate the PM system on this forum)  saying he got the PM and will reply latter, would ease my mind.   
992  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: btc-arbs.com - Update: dead HYIP, Refund progress 17/07/2014 on: July 30, 2014, 09:45:37 PM
When is the second refund coming? Now, everyone knows this is a HYIP, and the owner doesn't have enough money to pay people out, and the owner doesn't have a way to make money. The arbitrage is just a cover.

But, unless he pays 100% of everyone's money back (which he can't), he is a scammer and he should face the consequences. I think everyone shouldn't be pacified by small amounts of refunds.

At this point, we kinda don't have a choice about what's considered satisfactory. Small increments of refund is better than nothing at all.
I received .1 btc yesterday, by the way (second payment I've received). If someone wants to update the list, they're welcome to, but since btc-arbs admin doesn't use that list I don't deem it a necessity.

   I think it's still a good idea to keep the list updated.  I, for one, haven't received anything, but...   Knowing there are others in the same boat helps a little.     

I really wish he would work his way through the PM's and Emails and at least acknowledge the debt, he could just say he'll follow up when a partial refund can be expected.  Maybe tell us there are x number of people ahead of you....  Right now we're just stuck in this limbo-land.     
993  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: btc-arbs.com - Update: dead HYIP, Refund progress 17/07/2014 on: July 29, 2014, 01:45:37 PM
Guys, can you please calm down? I am seeing a lot of impatient people complaining that they haven't received any reply, but why dont you bother to read what BTC-Arbs said, you only have to send him 1 pm/email and then he will see it through, if you bombard him with pm's and emails it will only annoy him and you will be put to the bottom of the repayment queue.


I sent one email on May 30 and one PM about a month later, then sent another PM only when he asked on this thread for new BTC-e addresses from anyone that used BTC-e as the old ones were no longer valid. I have sat here and watched numerous people get contacted and some partially or totally refunded that were not in contact with him until after I was.. I have watched people with higher balances and lower balances get contacted and/or paid... I'm not bombarding anyone with PMs or emails.. Just posting on here as many others have done in hopes that maybe something will come of it and my 1.5btc will show up

   Same here,  1 Email explaining everything.  1 PM saying to see the email.  Both done 6/8.  Nothing so far.  I'm not in a rush to receive payment, but would at least like acknowledgement that he has received my claim and is looking into it, or it will be on the schedule at some point. 

   The PM system on this forum is ,to say the least, not good.  I'm worried that he didn't get the PM or it got deleted, or my Email went to his spam folder.  So many things could have gone wrong.  A one line response "got your request and I'm working on it", would help to calm people.   
994  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: btc-arbs.com - Update: dead HYIP, Refund progress 17/07/2014 on: July 28, 2014, 01:57:39 AM
I had recieved a PM from him that stated that I would recieve a payment between the 16th-20th.  [...] He had sent me another message asking for my info again and I sent that.
At least he acknowledged your existence. Not my case.

  Same here.  No acknowledgement.  But to make matters worse I sent my PM 3 days before Shock.  

BTC-Arbs are you skipping some of the PM's?  
995  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: btc-arbs.com - Update: dead HYIP, Refund progress 17/07/2014 on: July 27, 2014, 01:45:01 PM
More payments will be sent in 5 minutes.

  Nothing here.  Email and PM sent 6/8/14.  no Email no PM and No BTC. 
996  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: btc-arbs.com - Update: dead HYIP, Refund progress 17/07/2014 on: July 24, 2014, 05:30:55 PM
I had been sent a PM that said that my payments would start between the 16th-20th and I did not recieve anything in the pay out.  Be happy if you did.

Time zones, man.

I double checked this morning and still nothing deposited.  Maybe I will get lucky and be on the next round.

Everyone who was promised their initial refund by July 20th should have received it. Send me a PM with previous messages if it didn't arrive.

More refunds in 5 minutes.

I still have not recieved.  I followed his request and sent another PM to him with a copy of his previous message.  It is possible that I just fell through the crack however, I dont have a whole bunch of faith right now on what is real and what is illusion.  I am still out 2BTC.   Nothing recieved yet.

   Did BTC-ARBS send you a PM telling you to expect payment?  I believe he sent out several PM's to some people telling them to expect payment.  And his last post seems to indicate he's made a first payment to all of them. 

   I'm still waiting on the PM to say I'll see something.   
997  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: btc-arbs.com - Update: dead HYIP, Refund progress 07/07/2014 on: July 23, 2014, 03:45:33 PM
  Email and PM send June 8th.  2.21 or so due back.  Nothing to date. (refund, Email or PM).  

Any chance I can find out where I am in the queue?




Still, Nothing. 
998  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: btc-arbs.com - Update: dead HYIP, Refund progress 07/07/2014 on: July 17, 2014, 11:54:14 AM
   Email and PM send June 8th.  2.21 or so due back.  Nothing to date. (refund, Email or PM).  

Any chance I can find out where I am in the queue?


999  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: btc-arbs.com - Update: dead HYIP, Refund progress 07/07/2014 on: July 12, 2014, 10:38:51 AM
   Not sure if's he's going strictly by date or size of account, or a little of both, but I sent an email and 2 PM's on or about 6/8, still nothing.  Total of all accounts was about 2.2 BTC so that might come into play.  The suspense is killen me. 

   Using this forums PM system has got to be a pain for him too.  Seems to take me several tries to get a pm through, and then I usually have to wait the 5 mins at some point.   
1000  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Cryptsy API usage PROBLEM (help needed) on: July 08, 2014, 01:32:06 PM

    Did you ever get this working? 

   I think your problem is in the array your passing in.  If you put a var_dump for the post_data just after you build it, I think you'll see it's not what your expecting. 

I believe (without checking at all), that the array your passing in will have a key(index) of marketid and a value of 3.  not the index 0 and value "marketid => 3" your expecting.  I don't remember if you need marketid in quotes on the call or not, if yes, then maybe wrap the whole thing in single quotes, and if no, then move the double quote end, from right after marketid to after the 3. 

          Good luck  Bob   
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