So in the next 4 years we're at $1 million per BTC? I wish I were that optimistic, but people are less and less likely to stand firmly on the ground and fail to take into account that, first of all, 4 years is too little time for this to happen, and also that in a little over 3 years, the crypto president will go down in history, and I sincerely doubt that he will be succeeded by someone similar. The amount of money and demand to make his scenario come true is enormous, but everyone has the right to dream their dreams, but also dreams and wishes are one thing, and reality is something entirely different. |
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not a good trend IMO. Most Bitcoin Still Belongs to Individuals, but Institutions Are Catching Up: ResearchWhat to know:
River’s research estimates that as of Aug. 25, 2025, individuals hold about 65.9% of BTC (13.83 million coins).
Funds and ETFs control about 7.8% of supply; businesses hold 6.2% and governments control 1.5%.
River says the distribution is inferred from filings, address tagging and prior research. In other words, it is an estimate, not an on-chain census. What do you guys think would happen if the majority of the supply is held by institutions? Wouldn’t that slow down the adoption process since most of them are just into holding long-term? And does that also mean the market ends up being more manipulated by them, since they control such a big chunk of the supply? To begin with, I will say that you should be careful what you wish for, because it could come true. I want to say that since I've been on this forum (10+ years) many members have wanted exactly what has been happening for the last, say, 5 years - or just a little less than 2 years since BTC spot ETFs were approved in the US. Everything that is happening is a logical sequence of events, although it took a long time for the big ones to recognize the opportunity offered by Bitcoin, so we small ordinary people got the opportunity to invest at a price that Saylor and the other big players can't even dream of. Now the only question is at what price any of us decide to sell BTC, because they have the money to buy at $100k, but $200k or more won't be a problem for them either. Realistically, they don't literally control the market, but in some ways they can greatly affect the price of BTC if they decide to dump a large amount of BTC - which is an option at any time. Whether anyone likes it or not, they are responsible for the fact that the price of Bitcoin is over $100k today. |
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This is what other countries that made bitcoin legal tender are enjoying in their various countries, but some government don't want to allow legal tender in their country for citizens to enjoy the benefit of bitcoin legal tender...
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Name me one country where Bitcoin is legal tender? Until recently, there was only one such country in the entire world, but that is no longer the case with them either. You who are waiting for your governments to approve Bitcoin really don't get it, do you? |
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Say, I want to pay for a product or services in my country and the vendor doesn't accept Bitcoin directly, I can send Bitcoin to a bitcoin wallet the bank designated and use it to pay at will.
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For such things, there are at least two options that work - the first is payment processors that act as intermediaries between you and the seller - you send cryptocurrency, the intermediary pays the seller in fiat currency. Another option is a virtual cards that you can buy for cryptocurrencies - and with a Visa/Master card you can pay everywhere they are accepted. Of course, it will be much easier for some people if (when) banks enter this game in such a way that there will be a BTC logo at the entrance of the bank, but such people have never and will never understand that they are doing the wrong thing. Bitcoin was created as an alternative to banks, not to become dependent on them. |
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If a bill value is small, and you paid it in bitcoin on chain, you will pay very expensive on chain transaction fee. It would be especially expensive if you use centralized exchanges, platforms and submit your withdrawal from those platforms for your payment for food.
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When was the last time you made a transaction on the BTC blockchain? People who talk like you seem to live in the past, because today's on-chain transactions cost less than $0.50 (currently only $0.15).
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Have any of you ever ordered food and paid with Bitcoin? If yes, how did it feel?
I've never paid for food with BTC, but I've paid for a lot of other things like smartphones, computers, TVs, and the like - and I have to admit that it feels good to use BTC as currency, because that's what it's meant for. Unfortunately, most of the people who invest in BTC have never bought anything or paid for a service with it, but that is still a matter of choice for each individual. |
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There are only 10 minutes left for the league phase draw to begin! 
~snip~ UEFA has really become extra "transparent" since they let the computer do the drawing... Here it is more than obvious that they want to ensure that there are no surprises that are not to their liking. Since the guy from the Balkans took over UEFA, nothing can surprise me anymore.
The parlay I thought of betting on failed really hard.  Rijeka have looked really poor so far. There is no way they can turn things around from here in my opinion. Neither defending nor attacking is looking good... ~snip~ And that's a club that calls itself the champion of a country  A spoiled bunch with a coach who thinks he's the new Special One (allegedly he's already been written off). In addition, the club is for sale, and negotiations are reportedly underway. |
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People, you are on the bitcointalk forum, shouldn't you all have started valuing your privacy a little more a long time ago and stopped using that spying garbage of a browser? If for some reason you don't want to use Tor, then at least try Mozilla Firefox.
Just a quick but important heads-up for anyone using Google Chrome
If you're using wallets, trading tools or browsing exchanges via Chrome you're potentially exposed unless you're already updated
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Given that this browser is still one of the most popular and widely used, I have no doubt that whoever is behind the attack will be able to achieve good success before most people upgrade their browser. |
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Banks will do anything to make a profit, does anyone doubt that? But the real question is why would someone deposit their Bitcoin in a traditional bank if there are already what people call "crypto banks" (CEXs)?
The only proper way to own Bitcoin is to store it in a non-custodial wallet, everything else is nonsense that will sooner or later backfire on you.
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Why do you continue to believe in something that has been proven to be false?
There are many people who still think that the Earth is flat. 
Sorry for the offtop.This is unfortunately true, survey says that millions of people believe that the earth is flat. That's a stupid and meaningless belief, I'm more concerned about other things that these same people believe in, but that's for another topic.
Probably, he is not Satoshi. Initially, I never thought he could be Satoshi. But the more we wait for Satoshi to appear someday, the more I feel like Hal was Satoshi. You don't have to agree with me, but please don't impose your belief on me. There are a lot of "buts" and "if". Some of us share a lot of personal things on the internet. However, we all have different identities online, and one cannot be matched with others.
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I don't know why you conclude that I imposed something on you? A well-known person in the crypto community has done research that shows that Hal was in public places at the same time that Satoshi was communicating online with certain people. Unless you believe that a person can be in two places at the same time, or that Hal is a liar who deceived everyone - the conclusion is clear. |
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I don't think all Governments worldwide would Unite to fight against Bitcoin, I think it's too late for them now.
Why fight against something that can be monetized? Just look at how much money spot BTC ETFs have attracted in the US and everything will become clear to you. I wouldn't agree that it's ever too late for the world's most powerful governments to crack down on Bitcoin - they have the ways and means to do so at any time. What would happen if the US, EU, UK, Japan, India, Canada and some other countries agreed to declare Bitcoin illegal and ban all CEXs? They wouldn't literally kill BTC, but I suspect that within 48 hours the price would drop by 80% or even more.
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I suspect that submitting a new block via the postal services may not be the most efficient way to claim a reward. However, it is my understanding that the essential mechanism of Bitcoin is not based on the Internet.
I think that such a slow method of block confirmation would not make sense, it would completely kill the idea that BTC is a cryptocurrency. Perhaps in the future there will be some alternatives for data transfer that are not exclusively related to the internet, but I think that until then Bitcoin cannot survive without the internet, nor can most of the things we take for granted today. |
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A lot of people think Hal is Satoshi, and I am one of them. He probably just created another identity, so no one could tell he is Satoshi. But some facts suggest that Satoshi and Hal are different people. As days go by, people think he is Satoshi, and Theymos is also one of them who thinks this way. If Satoshi were alive, we would have seen some sign of his life. But he has vanished like he never existed.
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Why do you continue to believe in something that has been proven to be false? The following article contains concrete evidence that Hal and Satoshi are two different people -> Hal Finney Was Not Satoshi Nakamoto. As for Satoshi's disappearance, the man disappeared for a reason and he was more than clear about it - many people actually wanted him gone, and he just granted their wish. Additionally, for those who don't know, Hal Finney's body was frozen immediately after death and perhaps one day he will get a new chance at life. Hal Finney, Alcor member A-1436 who chose the whole-body option, was pronounced legally deceased on August 28, 2014 at 8:50 am at the age of 58, in Scottsdale, Arizona. That same day, Hal became Alcor’s 128th patient.---Defying doctors’ expectations, he didn’t draw his final breath until 38 hours later, shortly before 9:00 am on Thursday August 28. Immediately after pronouncement of legal death, Alcor’s standby team went into action, restoring circulation, ventilation, administering an array of medications, and initiating external cooling. Cryoprotective perfusion — to eliminate ice formation — has been completed and Hal is now undergoing cool down to -196 degC for long term storage where he be cared for until the day when repair and revival may be possible. |
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User : Miramax12
I think ordinals are a bit of a double edged sword when it comes to the Bitcoin ecosystem. On one hand, they bring a wave of innovation and open up new ways to use the Bitcoin blockchain beyond just financial transactions. People are experimenting with art, NFTs, and even data storage directly on chain, which some might say adds value or relevance to Bitcoin in a more creative context.
But on the other hand, this comes at a cost. Ordinals increase block space usage and drive up transaction fees, which could push out regular users who just want to send or receive BTC. It also raises concerns about Bitcoin’s original purpose some feel it’s straying too far from being a peer-to-peer cash system.
So, are they good or bad? I’d say it depends on how much you value innovation versus purity. Some see it as Bitcoin evolving, others see it as a distraction. The debate’s far from over and that’s probably a good thing. It means the community still cares deeply about where things are heading
Copyleaks : AI Content Found Percentage of text that may be AI-generated 100% GPTZero : We are highly confident this text was AI generated 100% Sapling : Fake: 99.9% Undetectable : LIKELY 62% AI Stealthwriter : About 80% of the content is likely human-written, while 20% appears AI-generated. Originality : We are 99% confident that text is original ZeroGPT : 100% is written by a human What to conclude in a case like this where half of the tool detects AI, the other half says that the content was created by humans - is it possible that the content was generated with AI and then humanized or is it something else? |
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So with those things we can assume already that they are for long term with Bitcoin. So those $1 Billion worth of Bitcoin is really possible knowing that they are aggressive on their accumulation.
If they still invest 1 BTC per day, that means they will buy around 120 BTC by the end of the year - and if BTC stays at the current price levels, then there is no chance of approaching the value of $1 billion. The only chance for their 6000+ BTC to reach that value is for the price to increase, or for them to request a loan from the IMF to buy extra BTC
Honestly seems like a slam dunk bet IMO. Already over 2/3rds of the way there and a little over 4 months left to get there. If they don't get there it'll be close as the country seems to be relying on bitcoin to save them. They're not gonna give up, they're motivated.
I don't see in which realistic scenario investing in BTC would save that country - since Bukele came to power, the debt has increased by as much as $11 billion, and if I'm not mistaken, it is now over $32 billion. $700 million or $1 billion is completely irrelevant in their case, and it wouldn't help them even if BTC became x10 more valuable overnight. |
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Interesting. I forgot about that site but I do recall teleporting my account over there at some point. Cool that they are managing to keep it afloat. From what I recall that site was made so that mixers could continue to advertise right? Maybe I should take a look over there and see how things are going. Last time I looked there were no gambling advertisers and I am not a fan of mixers, but maybe things have changed. Still, when it comes to Bitcoin, my favorite site for information is X.com.
You're wrong - that forum has been around since 2017 or 2018. It didn't have a huge community before mixers started advertising there, but even if that hadn't happened I think it would still exist. There were several gambling sites that advertised on that forum before, and I think there are still a few that are active now. |
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@mindrust, the case you mention is unfortunately just one tragedy that happened with the help of AI - I've read that there are many more, and some mean people say that children today do stupid things anyway, so we shouldn't blame AI even if something like that happens.
I won't say that AI can't help people, but they let the genie out of the bottle without thinking about what will happen in the long term. I personally don't use AI for anything (at least not consciously), but given that it has crept into every pore of society, it cannot be avoided.
I recently watched the movie Mission Impossible (the final part) and it doesn't seem like an impossible scenario at all.
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People can use AI to gain insight and ideas on certain topics which they don’t know anything about but it also has its own risks. The more people interact with AI, the more thinking AI will be doing for people. As a result, people will lose their ability to think. In a few years, there will be many people who will be asking AI’s opinion whenever they decide to do something. “Hey I am going to go get a beer from the fridge, is this a good idea? What’s the possibility of me catching a lightning bolt on the way?” You might laugh at this at the moment but it is coming. We are probably one of last generations who do the thinking themselves. Soon AI will takeover that field.
This is already happening today - and what's worst of all is that I see a lot of children who communicate with AI instead of real friends, and we've all seen that AI can sometimes (and has already done so) influence young people to do something very bad, even to take their own lives. Even those who "invented" AI are starting to seem concerned, because the direction we are heading is definitely wrong.
OP, people still plagiarize because it's easier for them, they find an article and copy it to a forum, which seems quick and easy to them. Besides, it's easier for people to detect AI content than plagiarism these days. |
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If that is the case, then what is up with this situation? Has no senior member tried making a collective report on this? If an initial group of reported accounts gets banned, that would set a precedent for the next accounts or posts to get banned or removed easier. Right?
I personally haven't noticed BG shills in the parts of the forum that I personally visit, so it's possible that they are active in some boards that are not interesting to me personally. Whenever I see someone mention that CEX, I always check that member's post history and it's not hard for me to make a report. They were a real scourge on the ATT forum, but after months of intense fighting, they were literally banished. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that those who pay them will probably realize that they are doing more harm than good. |
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Make no mistakes, i detest their shilling and i don't know why an exchange would advertise in this way, but i am basically telling you why they are breaking no forum rules, which should be easy to understand.
I would not agree that what they are doing is not against the rules of the forum, because posts in which certain members systematically shill someone or something are something that will definitely be deleted if it is reported to the moderators with concrete evidence (post history). There's no justification for this, least of all your explanation that they're staying on topic so they probably have a justification for what they're doing. They advertise this way because it costs them practically nothing except worthless tokens. It's a kind of bounty campaign, you get instructions on what to do, then you send links to a manager who counts how many times you mentioned their company. |
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When artificial intelligence first appeared, I saw many enthusiastic and naive posts in which their authors dreamed of using it to receive passive income in gambling.
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And do you admit the idea that artificial intelligence will bring you money, lol?
As some others have said, AI can probably be of help when it comes to sports betting to analyze the possible outcome of the match with the help of available data, but it is still only an analysis that anyone can do if they invest time in it. In one well-known app for tracking sports results, an option for AI analysis appeared, which of course is charged monthly, so AI definitely enters that sphere as well. Whether this will help someone generate passive income is hard to say, but I wouldn't rely too much on something like that. |
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Satoshi has a great influence in the Bitcoin space. A single negative comment by Satoshi about Bitcoin will be a big blow to the market. Apart from the coin he holds, his personality is dominant.
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I wonder why Satoshi would suddenly appear and make any negative comments about Bitcoin? It just doesn't make sense after all these years since he retreated into the shadows. Besides, for such a message to be legitimate, Satoshi would have to prove that it was really him - and given his character, it seems to me that he has burned all the bridges behind him. Actually, Satoshi doesn't matter anymore, what matters to some is his coins - although it's pretty naive to think that he will show up and try to sell those same coins. |
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