I remember your post but I don't understand why they kept the faucet if it's so unprofitable for them. They had two casinos, dplay.casino and club.riches, which Freebitco could use as a solution for their problem. They could redirect Freebitco to dplay.casino or club.riches and finally shut down their faucet business model but instead they shut down dplay.casino and club riches, so I don't understand why they did this.
They were completely giving away a good amount of BTC through the faucet. But all these issues are also related to the 25% APY of FUN tokens premium membership benefits. They have reduced it to 10% recently, but it was too late to do that. For a while, I was thinking that they would try to redirect all the users to dPlay and ClubRiches by taking some steps. But I was surprised when I heard that they were going to close both of those platforms. I also thought that Dplay and Club Riches were the final destination for Freebitco because in the last few years, casino market has significantly advanced and in order to remain competitive, Freebitco had to improve too and I thought that they decided to keep old Freebitco like Stake decided to keep old Primedice but instead Freebitco would promote a new dPlay and Club Riches, that would offer much better products and user experience. Btw the relationship between FUN token and Freebitco.in is very strange. I thought that Freebitco and FUN became one part but recently I see that FUN is on its own and Freebitco is on its own. FUN token even removed Freebitco and its related projects from their website and no longer associate themselves with Freebitco. This is also strange, especially when Freebitco still offers FUN token APY to their customers.
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As far as I know, the Casino.com domain was acquired by Gambling.com Group from Caesars Entertainment in late 2022. You can check out this wiki for a record of many premium domain sales. There is a record here that the Casino.com domain was sold in 2003 for $5.5 million, which was their last recorded public sale. So if Skel wanted to buy it now, he would be talking about multi-million dollars, probably over $14 million depending on how much revenue and branding is involved. This is very interesting information. Someone paid 5.5 million in casino.com in 2003, which was a huge money at that time. ChatGPT tells me that $5 million from 2003 is almost equal to $10 million in 2025 but I'm sure that it's not really like that because in 2003, it was very cheap to buy an apartment, everything was at least 4-5 times cheaper in my country. Btw I see that domains became cheaper this time. Chat.com is a very premium domain in 2025, I would say it's more premium than casino.com because chatting (social networks) are extremely popular today and ChatGPT is also very popular too. Connect.com was sold for $10 million in 2022, IT.com for $3.8 million in 2022. Gold.com - $8.5 million in 2024. I think that Metawin clearly has a chance to acquire the casino.com domain. It might cost 10 million USD or a maximum of 15 million, to my mind. Maybe not today, not tomorrow but I think that Skel might buy it one day.
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In carrying out our various economic activities, in most cases, we're faced with the prospect of having to wait in line. At banks, at Malls, at gas stations, including waiting in line to access health care. Think about what we lose out on when we spend time on these lines; in pure economic terms we'll say alternative forgones, or lost opportunity. The time forgone could surely be utilized somewhere, or in something else. Technology and digitalization has reduced such burdens. Online banking, Bitcoin, payment for services with barcode etc. As time goes with more technology advancement, most of these problems could be better solved.
The concern of this writer is, could we see an overcrowding in the digital space, and start to wait in line, as a result of network issues or variables like that.
Something to factor in when thinking of the next economic breakthrough!
Overcrowding in the digital space exists and people really have to get in line. There was Barcelona vs Sevilla Uefa Super Cup 2015 in my country and we all are a huge fan of Barcelona and Messi, so my whole country wated to buy ticket to see Messi in live and I remember that that day the website where tickets were sold got crasheed and later they managed to turn on a website but this time they set a queue on the website. If I amn't wrong, they were using Qmatic. The principle was that the first person who would enter the website would be the number one in the queue and everyone would get their queue number according to their rank. It was like, first-come, first-served but then you also had a few minutes given, you had to buy a ticket in 10 minutes or you would be removed from your queue and the next person would get the chance to buy it.
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You should thank God because it's just the slot, imagine what would have happened if he/she opened that picture of a topless woman sitting on a tractor.  I had the Eurotrip movie in a secret folder when I was a kid. Btw I couldn't imagine that if there would be so many posts in this thread in one day. This is a good story and I hope this kid doesn't get addicted to slot machines when he is older lmao. I was hoping that he was going to win you a ton of money or something, pity, a prodigy could habe been born hahahahhaha
This kid is doing fine, he doesn't gamble, so everyone can chill out  Probably 12 years or something like that have passed since that day. You shouldn't try to let them know that, that was a gamble.
I didn't let them know it. He was a 2-3 years old child, he had no idea what he was doing, he doesn't even remember that moment. Everything is fine guys. Consider yourself lucky, next time create a second or two to quit the browser or even shut down your laptop, kids shouldn't be toying with laptops or computers because they can press something that will nearly end the computer OS, they can also click on bad links and your PC will be compromised.
I wasn't using lock screen back then and my computer was also slow compared to modern computers, so I didn't shut down my computer. I warned my mom not to let the kid touch my computer but she forgot it. The kid wasn't playing on the computer, he was only clicking on the space bar, which he probably liked. I had opened Igrosoft's Fruit Cocktail, so he was feeling funny when he was seeing fruits and strawberries going down each time he was clicking on the space button and parents also thought that he wasn't harming computer because he wasn't clicking on mouse and didn't touch anything except the slot which parents had no idea what it was.
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I agree with you that we have to ensure that we have sufficient funds to cover our expenses for the next few months but now I look at your screens and why do you choose 20-25x leverage for your trades? You suggest 10x leverage to beginners but it's extremely risky. Everything above 2x and 3x leverage is extremely risky and ten times greater leverage is worse than gambling. With 25x leverage, every moment prices increase or decrease by 4%, your capital increases either by 100% or you get liquidated. Cryptocurrencies are so volatile that we see 4% price increase/decrease almost every day.
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In our country, this is the most common tradition or belief. While we're young, we were taught to study hard and finish schooling, and get a stable job. Because once we have already acquired a stable job, we will start earning and improve our lives. And create consistent progress, until we end up getting rich and enjoy the best things in life.
But I don't think we are getting align with it. Instead of working to earn and get rich, why are majority now end up struggling in life? Honestly, what I'm seeing right now is that we work to survive, not to make money and get rich in the process. Could this be the real possibility of life? Or we are just blinded by fantasies in life? Or is it because working alone is never sufficient enough to make riches in life, but we need various investments to achieve success and get wealthy in the long run?
I know different opinions and ideas may arise, but I'll be more willing to read and reflect each of it.
The majority of people end up struggling in life today because what was working in the 90s doesn't work today and they still stick with the old plan. A university degree doesn't mean much these days, it doesn't mean that you'll be able to land a good job. Manual labour without a degree and any skill earns more money today than those who have finished bachelor's degrees. People basically waste the best 4 years of their life in studying something where they'll barely earn any money. Also, today's world favours capitalists too much. Even the most stupid person with money can live like a king but a very smart person with no money will struggle a lot for years.
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They need to implement KYC and it will be better for their business model too because their faucet is heavily abused by bots and they have admit multiple times that it's hard for them to control it.
It's too late for that. We called them in March 2024 to offer a DAILY roll instead of a Hourly roll, but these guys didn't care even back then: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5487189.0They are not in a stage of being able to fix it now, the trust is broken completely, the only way out is "bankruptcy" or something similar. I remember your post but I don't understand why they kept the faucet if it's so unprofitable for them. They had two casinos, dplay.casino and club.riches, which Freebitco could use as a solution for their problem. They could redirect Freebitco to dplay.casino or club.riches and finally shut down their faucet business model but instead they shut down dplay.casino and club riches, so I don't understand why they did this. Nothing makes sense with Freebitco. They built Dplay and Club Riches, which was a great escape for their faucet model. They could attract lots of customers on these websites and redirect Freebitco to any of them but instead, they ruined everything. They ruin everything they touch. FUN token is the first perfect example of that.
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When I learned of bitcoin back 2014ish I was already working in finance for some time. Was discovering more and more how corrupt my industry was, and most of all how corrupt the big banks are (BOA, 90B in fraud violations since 2000, JP Morgan Chase, 40B since 2000 (most since 2006 when Jamie Dimon took over as CEO) fraud, against their own clients much of the time).
How do banks work in your country? I also have a degree in a similar field but I've never worked in a bank because their pay was very low, so I decided to stick with my computer and learnt UI/UX design. This profession pays me much more than the salaries banks are offering to graduates. I know a few people who work in banks and what I hear from them is very depressing. I know a guy, who is my friend's friend and works in problematic loans. One day we all were together, having some beer and food in a restaurant. This guy told us that his job is terrible, the bank forces him to call people who have a loan to threaten them that if they don't pay in time, they'll be left in the street, they'll do this, they'll do that. The way he threatens people is terrible but it's all forced by the bank. In a normal country, for such a threat every person would be in jail but banks have guys in the government and they are protected. That's why I hate banks and why I'll never work there. Do yourself a big favor, and read this book! One needs to understand how traditional finance and banking works to truly understand bitcoin. Nick Szabo always talks about the history of money before btc. When he does events, in his blog ( https://unenumerated.blogspot.com/ ), etc. Nick is an OG cypherpunk,created bitgold ahead of btc, coined the term Smart Contracts, a lawyer, an economist and a computer scientist..you get the point. I'm essentially echoing what he has been telling everyone to do, indirectly, for many years. This book that I'm just now reading is eye opening even to myself whos worked in finance for several decades and kept a close eye on the fraud from within. Do yourself a favor - https://www.amazon.com/Creature-Jekyll-Island-Federal-Reserve/dp/091298645XIt will hurt my eyes to read this PDF on computer, it's 608 pages. I might order a physical book. Btw would you love to share an image of a few pages from the book? I mean pages that you think are the most important texts in this book?
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It happened to me a few years ago. My relatives visited my house and they brought their kid with us. We are very close to each other and visit each other very often, so nothing new here but one day, when they came, my mother asked me to go to the supermarket to bring bread, cola and some other stuff. I was playing slots during this moment on my PC and she was in a rush, so I minimised the browser and immediately went to the supermarket. I had $10 deposited on slots, remember this. Then I come at home and I see this 2-3-year-old kid has opened my browser tab and clicks on the space button and is very happy, laughing. I immediately went to the PC and I see that this kid has opened my slots and every time he clicks on the space button, slots are spinned and it makes him very happy but my balance went down to zero  It was so funny experience that it brings me smile every time I think about this.
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I’ve always heard complaints about exchange trading comps — unfair rules, bots dominating, or hidden conditions. Decided to test it myself. Joined a small trading challenge 3 months ago and ended up winning $100. Tried again later and won $250. Not life-changing, but encouraging enough.
From this little experience, I picked up 3 lessons:
1. Don’t judge until you’ve actually tried.
2. Some comps do provide a fairer playing field.
3. Pick competitions that match your category and strength.
Curiousto know if anyone else here had similar or opposite experiences with trading comps?
What trading competition do you mean exactly? The ones that I've seen on Binance are terrible and if you are not a whale, you can't win them. Even if you win them, they are so tiny that it's not worth it. I prefer to deposit money on a random crypto casino and wager a few Bitcoins instead of competing on these trading platforms. I also don't like taking part in trading competitions because I feel rushed and when I'm rushed, I make mistakes. I trade 1-2 times a year and in the trading competition, you are forced to trade many times to increase your chances of winning the competition, this is where you make mistakes, so no, thanks, it's not for me.
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How much did Skel pay for x.com/casino? That would cost millions of dollars. It doesn't surprise me that he bought x.com/casino but what surprises me is that he bought casino.one instead of casino.com
That doesn't matter IMO, it's a domain of x. Buying the domain x.com/casino is huge and from what I can see, it's being used to promote MetaWin. It's not a different casino, at least not for now. It's just that people searching for casino on X will have that page as their top result. Casino.com has an owner, and he would probably want an exorbitant amount of money for the domain. I wonder who owns casino.com, it's such a premium domain name. Btw do you remember that we had a guy on this forum who owned poker.com? He was selling it for 14 million dollars if I amn't wrong. I wonder how much casino.com owner will sell it to Skel if Skel asks him. I wouldn't be surprised to see that happening, it's Skel Horn after all. Yes, there will be a multiplier for $CASINO alloc as Skel revealed on discord:  Wow, that's very interesting. Will I be able to gamble with $CASINO the way I gamble with Bitcoin and altcoins or Metawin? Btw NFT multiplier sounds interesting and scary at the same time. I would love to have two NFTs, but it scares me to lose my NFT but it's an interesting offer.
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Let me explain the thread title. I know a lot of us here would say we should be gambling for fun, but in reality most people don’t gamble just for fun, they do it mainly for profit. Even if they lose, they keep coming back because they hope to eventually become profitable in gambling.
But what if people stop aiming for profit and gamble only for fun, what do you think would be the impact on the gambling industry?
Will we still see it growing or will the industry shrink?
It would absolutely survive because not many people are addicted to gambling. Because of my job, I've been in touch with millions of gamblers and have had access to a huge amount of data. I've also been a Customer Support for a while. Long story short, the majority of players, especially those from rich European countries, are mostly for fun but those from poor countries are mostly for money. For example, we had a BJ table that was serving Italian players. They were all quiet, it was extremely rare to see them writing something in the chat or blaming the dealer or the provider, while tables that were serving to people from poor countries, were full of players who were threatening dealers, cursing the provider, the casino and it was clear that they had addiction problems. I would say that gambling industry would not only survive but be almost as profitable as it is even if it didn't have addicted players and every player was gambling for fun.
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Nothing is flawless and samr also applies for decentralization. Basically decentralization is good in that we are in full control but the question is can that control be used for selfish incentives? If you come to think about it, the more coins you Hodl , the bigger your influence in the general price of bitcoin or even the condition of the entire crypto market since bitcoin also in directly influences them.
Every now and then we see big firms making headlines of them selling or buying huge amounts of bitcoin and the next moment, their incentives coupled with FOMO causes the market to move in their direction. This may seem normal to some people but I see it as them taking advantage of decentralization to manipulate price to their preference.
Recently more countries are are hodling bitcoin in the form of reserves it seems like a good move for adoption but simultaneously it also means they Hodl a certain huge percentage of a high valued asset with a fixed supply cap which means they literally Hodl a decent percentage of power on the network. shared power is the backbone of decentralization and I think big firms and countries are using it to their advantage.
What do you think?
I am concerned that Bitcoin is not the same as it was years ago. In 2016-2017, you could buy a Bitcoin miner and buy Bitcoin at home with a very good ROI. Today, mining is a commercial business because it's not profitable for individuals anymore, which I think is a very bad thing because it will be more decentralised if we all can mine and the commercialisation of mining makes Bitcoin less decentralised, to my mind. Governments and big firms owning Bitcoin also make me very concerned. I've always been against holding Bitcoins because if we hold and do nothing, then the network will die but today things have changed. Today I support holding because we shouldn't let big firms, organisations and governments hold a large sum of Bitcoins if we want to keep power in our hands.
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Interesting... Would you mind to offer the source of this information? It would be very relevant for people in this thread who are expecting any good news from the administration of this casino.
Though, in my eyes, all the money people trusted to this ecosystem is pretty much gone and there is little we can do. We can only hope the dutch authorities in gambling will step in and enforce their laws against those who defrauded their investors, depositors and gamblers.
It’s from the website of the Dutch gambling authority. The decision to collect payment is from less than a month ago. https://kansspelautoriteit.nl/aanpak-misstanden/sanctiebesluiten/fbc-0/Reading through the document, it seems that the authority was not satisfied with just blocking the IP addresses. The only way for them to fully comply would probably be to impose mandatory KYC to make sure Dutch players can’t access the website. They can still appeal the decision, but I don’t see it getting reversed and it might not be worth continuing to fight it, considering the state of the site. They might just pay the fine, declare bankruptcy, and shut everything down. Freebitco recently got banned in Germany, too, as I remember. I didn't know about the Netherlands ban. Now I think that maybe wetsuit and TheQuin don't post on this forum because they want to pretend like they are no longer on this forum. We all remember that the Dutch authorities came on this forum twice, when they seized mixers. Maybe that's why Freebitco owners no longer visit this forum. At some point, I thought that they had some kind of accident or health issues, or maybe one of them died but now I think that these two bans, one from Germany and one from the Netherlands, make sense. Btw it's not hard to fix this. They need to implement KYC and it will be better for their business model too because their faucet is heavily abused by bots and they have admit multiple times that it's hard for them to control it.
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An egalitarian society is a situation in which everyone is considered equal in both economic, financial and social status.its a concept that emphasizes the importance of social equality, aiming at removing economic inequalities.its indeed a classless society where there is no rich,semi-rich or poor. If I have $1,000 for instance every other persons will have same.everbody is equal financial stable.nobody is richer to another. Do you think such society is attainable before the end of the current generations as proposed by great economist.
An egalitarian society can't be achieved. Communism is a good example of what you say, my parents grew up in communism. Almost everyone says that communism was bad because if you lived in a village, they would force you to work like a slave, while people living in cities had a better quality of life. I also know that everyone was stealing from the factory during communism, since everything was the government's property. I also know that there was a huge amount of corruption. You had to know someone to buy a TV or a car. If you had someone in the government, you wouldn't be equal to others. As I've heard, it was a very corrupt governance with a very bad quality of life in terms that you had all the money but couldn't buy anything.
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We’ve always said, especially us early adopters, that Bitcoin is decentralized money meant to cut out third parties, to give us a way to move funds freely without the government watching or banks handling every transaction. But looking at the situation now, yeah, Bitcoin has grown fast and become really valuable…
I don’t have exact numbers, but I’m pretty sure most Bitcoin is sitting in centralized exchanges or ETFs, basically the new Wall Street. And the one thing we all hated before, KYC it’s everywhere now, not just in exchanges but even on gambling sites.
Satoshi’s vision was peer-to-peer transactions, yet most of today’s activity goes through centralized platforms.
So the question is, do you think Satoshi would be happy with where Bitcoin is now? yes, it’s valuable, but the original goal doesn’t seem fully achieved.
Bitcoin is not a failure, his code works the way he wanted it to work and there are even some betterments to his code, so I don't think that he would call Bitcoin a failure but I'm sure that he wouldn't like the way we use Bitcoin today. He created it to solve real-life problems that were associated with payments and instead of using Bitcoin for payments, people use it for investment to hold them in wallet and do not touch for years but that's not the end, the worst thing that happened to Bitcoin is that centralized exchanges, organizations like BlackRock and governments are slowly acquiring Bitcoin and owning a highest portion of it. Satoshi wouldn't feel happy about this.
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Noticed how the big teams always seem to get the soft whistles or no-calls when it matters? Like Lakers for instance in the NBA (where Lebron is playing) or, even in local leagues. Sometimes it looks too obvious, like the refs just lean their way cause the league can’t afford for the stars to be out early.
In betting it shows up too, lines always tilt toward the popular teams, everybody throws money on them, then the calls on the floor somehow match up.
Hard to tell if it’s chance or the system really keeping them
Do you think refs really tilt toward the big teams, or are we just whining when things don’t go our way?
Referees have their own favorites in matches too. We are all humans and biased at some point because we all have our logic and a way of explanation. I rarely watch and place a bet on NBA, I mostly watch and place a bet on soccer. In soccer, everyone knows that when the match is on Bernaeu Stadium (Real Madrid's stadium), referees will always make decisions in favour of Real Madrid. Besides Real Madrid, it's very common for teams to try to pay money to the referee. Btw it's also clear as the sky that when there is a player like Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo on the field, referees try to not give them yellow or red card, even if they deserve it because these two are the superstars and people buy tickets to see them on the stadium playing soccer.
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👀 $CASINO's X got a new look! There's nothing on the website yet, but we can tell something is cooking 🧑🍳 How much did Skel pay for x.com/casino? That would cost millions of dollars. It doesn't surprise me that he bought x.com/casino but what surprises me is that he bought casino.one instead of casino.com I am 100% sure that Skel had some talks with casino.com owner but the deal didn't manage to happen, so Skel acquired casino.one domain. I bet I'm right  because the guy managed to buy hit.com and hit.tv Their progress, compared to what they were 2 years ago, is really huge, that's why I think that they'll succeed. I call this process inevitable because the way Skel does everything, brings Metawin huge progress. They also own premium domains like hit.com and hit.tv, there are simply too many reasons to back my argument about inevitably being in the top list.
It is definitely possible, but nothing is inevitable about any of this. So many sites with similar or greater potential than Metawin couldn't crack it into the big leagues for various reasons. Time will tell basically. Of course, I agree with you, but I hope you get the point. I wanted to congratulate what Metawin achieved and by saying that their success is inevitable, I simply wanted to express my positive emotions. I know that nothing is guaranteed and I completely agree with you but my message was a little different. That's how we say about someone's success in my country.
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Huh how is Bitfury tax free? They are established in Netherlands so any profits they make they will be liable to pay taxes on..
I don't know what taxes they pay in the Netherlands but I know that in my country, they don't get taxed. The local government created a tax free zone, exclusively for BitFury, which means that any miner or any product they import from foreign countries, doesn't get taxed, they do not pay import taxes. BitFury also doesn't pay income taxes in my country and they get a very cheap electricity rates. I don't know if they pay anything in the Netherlands when they make profit in my country but here they have a heaven. No import tax, no income tax, extremely cheap electricity and protection from the local government. I don't know why they are established in the Netherlands, their founder is a Latvian citizen, Valery Vavilov but maybe there are some other benefits that they get from this. I also want to mention that Yandex Taxi moved to the Netherlands when the war started between Russia and Ukraine. If anyone has any info on why they chose the Netherlands, I'll happily listen.
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It is known that in some U.S. states as well as in some other countries, the higher your income, the higher your taxes, while in others, the lower your income, the lower your taxes. The simple question I would like to ask you is this: which would you choose, to accept a job with high income in a where the cost of living is high and you pay high taxes, or go for a low paying job in a state where the cost of living is low and the taxes are low? After all, taxes never end.
In the end, in which case do I have the most money, when I have high income and pay high taxes or when I have low income and pay low taxes? For me, the most important thing is in which case do I have the most money and in which casino my money has the highest purchasing value. Overall, I think that high pay and high taxes result in a higher net salary in the end. Then I'll order some things online from Amazon, eBay, Aliexpress and other websites. Airpods cost $100 in the USA and in a 3rd world country too, so I'll have higher quality of life even in an expensive country if my net salary is higher in the end and purchasing value is at least the same when I spend money in groceries and bills.
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