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401  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Better you can do in times of market crash on: June 26, 2018, 10:22:33 PM
Market crash is a normal thing in bitcoin, never feel panic for its part of dealing in a cryto world. Worse comes to worse if you let negativity comes on you. Just being involve of the things that  makes you to be more productive.  
Yes it is a normal thing that expected to be happen in world of digital currency but at the moment this was a traumatic happening but of all happenings today I am very much positive that the market of cryptocurrencies will come up again and can recover from this huge downfall. I'll just hope that it would end soon.
That's what mostly people were looking for right now, and including me I also wonder this huge downfall would end as early as August this year. Hopefully all traders right now will have a certain decisions to hold their coins, so they will not regret if ever bitcoin will surpass the current challenges we've been facing nowadays. Fluctuations will always happen, and in order to survive don't panic; just remain calm and ready for the surprises to come in crypto.
402  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Will you trade Bitcoin to buy Altcoins? on: June 26, 2018, 09:28:37 PM
It's an ideal theory. We all want the highest profit. However , you have to feel lucky to not keep altcoin  as of this moment. We' re sinking into the red sea. Investing in altcoin has the potential to return big profits , but it also is a huge risk. At the present time , the market is no longer compliant. All of our investments now are human instincts

In taking risk, it was just normal to those people who had great dreams in trading. For me, if a person has enough bitcoin that hasn't moving while the price was still unpredictably pumping for higher value; maybe that's the best option to do is to buy altcoins in order to grow the profit. But make sure to purchase the good coin which could be better for longer terms, because if mistakenly that coin was a shit one probably you'll not be earning good profit or that coin will be dead.
403  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will explode! on: June 26, 2018, 08:55:50 PM
The time will just tell it all when it is going to happen, it's true that it fell from the ATH $20k last year that almost 70% plus dropped but that is not the conclusion and the basis of the bitcoin's future price,

That $20,000 peak was nothing. I find it quite shocking that so many people still keep referring to that peak as in it being something important. That peak was only good for people looking to sell their coins and not look back. I understand it might be frustrating for people that bought at such levels, but come on, move on and try to better the situation you are in. If you keep waiting without doing anything to change it you won't be moving forward. Buying at current levels allows you to tank your initial entry points, which is the first step towards recovering your on-paper losses. If you don't act now you will have to accept that it's going to be a long term journey....

Indeed, we must have definite idea for long term holding right now because if we desire to achieve that $20k again I think its hard to do since the market was still worstly bearish. It was funny to think that those frustrated people still prone to be panic, and they kept absorbing those negative rumors despite of being so aggressive to be involved with cryptocurrency. This isn't a good idea if we wanted to prosper on our goals, because we need to have strong motivations in order to keep our coins in profitable value in exact time. Not even July or August, but waiting and patience is the best solutions for now.
404  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To quit gambling is to quit yourself on: June 26, 2018, 08:51:33 AM
Base on my experience it is really hard to quit gambling specially when you are already used to it, before my parents will get mad at me becauase I forgot my responsibility as a mom also they sees me almost got broke because of being addicted in gambling. One day I realize to quit gambling and I really want to do it so by the help of my love ones and determination to change I now stop or quit in gambling .
No doubt in your saying that when someone gets used to gambling, it becomes really difficult for that person to stay away from it for the sake of good but as we all know this fact that nothing is impossible in this world, so quitting gambling for the sake of good can also be done. I know it would take a little bit more time than a normal player but he will continue.
Its an ultimate dedication for every person who has a dream for the future. Since gambling is there that moves a person to loss his/her financial at worst situations, then why suffer engaging ourselves with that kind of activity? We need to move out and quit for good, and if you're willing to do that you can do it by yourself. You will decide for the best and don't hesitate because every decisions is final and no regrets at all when it comes to self improvement. Quit from old one, and welcome the new you.
405  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Arbitao is 100% a SCAM !!! on: June 26, 2018, 03:01:17 AM
When one searches for  arbitao on Google, this thread is on first page. I have seen that they are trying to push it to next page by adding new pages on other websites.

I do not know how much of harm can this do to the project but if I was an investor and saw this thread through Google, I would have left this at the same moment. I feel bad for people who will fall for this because of other promotions.
Actually they added new bounty program.

This is only place on internet where it is mentioned arbitao is scam. I don't know what people expect to see after ICO, magically getting rich over night without doing anything? Undecided

Maybe the last thing about Arbitao was its campaign is services wasn't a good one, and it was just one week to be active in signature campaign paid with btc. There should be a proper concrete evidence for this, so that we'll have a final conclusion over this scam accusation. Actually, more people expects great profit after the success of the project.
406  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When do you know its time to Stop? on: June 25, 2018, 10:54:48 PM
I know when its time to stop if i am already losing many times and i have earned enough of money, but sometimes i could not follow it because i can't control myself in betting if i am feeling lucky or winning several times. Better control yourself when playing because you might lose a lot of money.
It's all about what you can do for yourself. It's not just the habit that you gamble all the time, it's all the things that could potentially hurt yourself and not improve. It's going to be sad because of what you are doing to yourself mentally, physically, and spiritually. It's better to control yourself, just like you said.

As a professional individuals, we need to look at the possible outcome which probably be happening after that bad habit. So in determining when is the exact time to stop, it can be done at anytime with no specific plans. All those factors that maybe affected should be controlled as well, and don't just say it but rather do it because if somebody said they should be in control; it came out that they're controlled by gambling yet self control wasn't their already.
407  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling Versus Traditional Gambling on: June 25, 2018, 10:31:31 PM
Both have same work and both can be profitable too. But there's some difference between them. I see Traditional much safer than online gambling Since I have seen many people who lose there all money in gambling but the Traditional gambling can't be risky as compared to online gambling.
You can play online gambling any time anywhere while in order to play Traditional gambling you have to visit casinos

So online gambling is much convenient than the traditional gambling so which is better?
Both are same work but not equal each has pros and cons as younsaod the traditional gambling nneda our time because we need to visit different places to play different games but in online gambling we can get all at one place but online gambling is more addictive than traditional one.

Which one is better? It depends on yourself, as it is a subjective question where people have their own preferences. Even if many people says online gambling is better because we can play it at anytime anywhere but some other people are preferring to play on real casinos because of the social aspects or about other things.

Yes it depends on us on how to think what's the good option to choose for. But for me Online gambling has a lots of advantages compared with traditional gambling, because its has a convenient ways to deal with. You can do it independently as long as you're connected to a internet web network ran by gambling virtual engine supported by their hosts. Unlike with casino in a real life gambling you need a place where the activity is performed.
408  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin might rise soon on: June 25, 2018, 08:13:11 PM
The more I read these threads, the more Im convinced we are going to 2k.

Denial is a powerful force. The more the denial, the bigger will be the panic. And thats the danger, thats why I believe we are going for a 90% fall from ATH.

A 5% rise is not a bull run. We need to be at 10k to even start considering one.
How come reading positive threads affect your force of denial ? You must have got some super natural powers to convert these positive vibes into negative ones. Don't mind but I have got to say that this just my opinion which I am sharing with all of you and I believe that sooner or later Bitcoin will bounce bank harder than it has fell down. It has been doing this since the beginning. I am not a Bitcoin fanboy or an optimistic bitboy but just stating this as per the history.

Well that's a respected statement mate, it doesn't need to be a bitcoin fanboy but in general all ideas and opinions here was certain. If you're mindset and perceptions towards bitcoin was positive, then keep it as an inspiration and hold on to that. You should bare in mind that bitcoin will soar higher in the next remaining few days this June, and well be able to experience that bull run again.
409  Economy / Speculation / Re: Did you buy bitcoin in December 2017? on: June 25, 2018, 07:39:17 PM
It is an undisputed fact that those are affected much by this sudden drop in bitcoin price are those who bought it in December last year when bitcoin was skyrocketing. I understand the emotional trauma you are going through. Nobody will be happy watching his investment losing value like that. I want to encourage you that the downfall of a man is not the end. In June 2017, nobody ever thought of bitcoin hitting $20k by December 2017 and that is the beauty of bitcoin. It takes only minutes for bitcoin price to either rise or fall. Never dump your coin out of fear. Let's keep our fingers  crossed and hope for the best. If you understand that Bitcoin is a long term investment, you wouldn't panic when the price falls within some short period of time. We will all laugh soon
I didn’t buy bitcoin in December 2017, but I missed the golden chance to sell my bitcoin in that peak time. Now I don’t know how I have to wait because I understood bitcoin is long term investment.
And at this dump I will suggest everyone don’t be panic seller, just buy bitcoin at this low price as much as you can…will be fruitful in near future.


You're not all alone mate, and with my experience also I wasn't able to sell and grab the opportunity to gain higher profit during those days that bitcoin was still high in december days of 2017. But I still stored my bitcoin on my local wallet in my country, because even if I don't purchase bitcoin during December I learned how to save. Even though the price nowadays was so tough I manage to control my emotions at first place.
410  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin might rise soon on: June 25, 2018, 09:01:44 AM
Bitcoin value will likely see the light of the day very soon, maybe in the couple of weeks or months to come. And i see this time as the best time to buy Bitcoin since its value is look reasonably cheap because of the end it will definitely bounce back to an upward direction.
Yes we are expecting that bitcoin price will very soon again get the accelerator and will reach to 20k. I think that those people who will remain patient and will hold their bitcoin for some time, i am sure that only such people will become succeeded, and will really get a good profit from bitcoin investment, because bitcoin is still very young and still it has to cover more destinations.

Agree,all of us here expecting of bitcoin price will rise again same of the previous year, all we need to do for now is to buy more bitcoin and grab this opportunity because bitcoin price is very low and remain Patience time will come you will be succeed.

Yes, that would be a good motivations mate and I just hope everybody would learn through this bright ideas shared in this forum. Moreover it remains frustrating when it comes to expectations failure, as we noticed the price was still crawling to profitable value that falls dramatically. However this was a serious challenge at all, that everyone should face over.
411  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin comes around on: June 25, 2018, 03:03:00 AM
I never thought that bitcoin will fall this low again after see some big rallies last year, its very unfortunate that the bad news keep on hitting bitcoin, bitcoin supposed to be already recover and we dont reach this low, but the market situation is really bad, it doesn't related to any history, bitcoin just had a hard time to recover with all the bad news

After all sorts of bad news more people are still thinking great about bitcoin, and this brought more demands which turns people to gain wider interest in bitcoin. The history always be a history, and yet it won't be a reference with the current fall that we've been experiencing right now. I knew this won't last long, and there may be a good sides behind this fall.
412  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin might rise soon on: June 24, 2018, 09:45:01 PM
People need to learn to have patience, it's very naive to expect a new rally just a few months we've crashed from ATH and currently sit in a bear market. Sure, a new rally might begin at any moment now, but realistically it would take 6-12 months, judging from previous patterns. Bitcoin should be treated more as a long-term investment, so it's better to plan for years rather than weeks, because the volatility is still very high in shorter time frames.
Too sad but true, that is one of the factors why bitcoin can't rise a lot because of greediness of some people which happens in the bear market. Yes,it may take those months as you mentioned but the time has been wasted if it continues the bottom effect of the value. There should be something that can help uplift bitcoin's name even if social media keeps judging it or spreading fake news on it. Soon,bitcoin will rise and forget about the negative vibes about it. Stay positive and everything follows.
413  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will you stay in crypto if BTC does not recover? on: June 24, 2018, 02:06:01 PM
Hi,

Just wondering if you guys will stay in crypto (aka hold or sell your BTC holdings) if the price does not recover.

Lets say we are still around 6k-7k by December 2018 => Will you wait it out or give up and say "OK, we had a nice ride but we are not going up again"?

What about if in 2019 price is still hovering around 6k-7k and there is no sign of recovery to 10k+ (or even a new ATH)
Possibilities on such decision would happen but no one really knows on what would happen exactly on future years to come or even on next month. We might already having some doubts that crypto would be dead but own my own view this is always been a possible thing to happen to crypto where prices can easily go dip and we are not always pumping out on price but it doesnt mean it would be dead. There are still lots of space to improve or further develop not just like on money making.
I will stay in bitcoin forever because I think that now the price is normal. I don’t think why all the people want big pumps in the price? Bitcoin will grow with the passage of time and I don’t need any big pump in the price. I also don’t believe in any predictions and decide according to market current situation and technical analyses. We should be practical and not emotional.


That's great, we shouldn't be bothered by our emotions because it may drown us to hopeless results when good profit comes. For the main time predictions was just an entertainment, but the facts along with the reality was really changing everytime as volatility could go further. Fluctuations will always be happening, because the people always wanted profit and don't think how future could be a nice results in a long run. Just believe bitcoin will recover, and also crypto shouldn't be ignored rather choose it to remain strong if you're holding a certain amount for long term trading.
414  Economy / Speculation / Re: Markets and ambitions on: June 24, 2018, 12:41:44 PM
Technical analysis doesnt work all the time. I would suggest to hold your coin when the price is low and sell it when it is high rather than depend on technical analysis because if technical analysis does not work than you have to take the burden.

Technical analysis is just a tool which people use, which is based on the past behaviour of asset prices. Your logic would work very well if people knew whether a particular price is a 'high' or a 'low'. When the price reached $7000 last month, would you have concluded that it is a high or a low? If you had concluded that it was a low, your MTM would be negative now.

Indeed, analysis always be a reference for us and not an assurance to initiate a final conclusion. When we seem to have a good price, it doesn't mean we're already aiming that high because the crash might happen at anytime. Just what had happened lately with the price which was lower that $7000, which could possibly be dipping down if traders will become hopeless and no ambitions for the future. Market will always be bearish as I've observed, so in order to prevent that stop your day trades and choose long term trading options.
415  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The best time to take profit in Trading on: June 24, 2018, 12:02:38 PM
I can say it's more than a half year ago. Right now? A BIG TRAP! You need to stay away from it and live a healthy life right away baby. Crypto is not stable now!

Yeah right! It should have been in December when all the market is in green and we are enjoying our profits but unfortunately, many people weren't able to get out during that time and now become bag holders of coins that has lost more than half of its value not knowing when they should be able to sell it at a profit. The lesson I've learned during the bear market is to always have a plan and take profit when you can because the time may come when your coin already lose 90% of its value and that's the time you would sell it because of disappointment and hopelessness.


We should stay calm all the time while bearish market was still affecting lots of traders and yet panic still accumulated, since everybody still struggles to meet the expectations of bull run. If everybody's aim is to take profit of trading, it needs a lot of dedication, determination and patience so that in the future we won't be disappointed and avoid regrets. Learning more lessons from previous wrong moves, definitely made us much more stronger on our principles on trading.
416  Economy / Speculation / Re: What kind of price movement do you want for Bitcoin? on: June 22, 2018, 08:33:19 AM
What I wanted was in 2017, where every month the price of bitcoins rose until the december. It's a great opportunity to recover all my losses and all the blame for not holding bitcoins. So if this happens again, I will not miss it anymore. And I keep buying bitcoins.

If that's the progress we wanted for bitcoin, therefore we need to have more patience in waiting for the exact moment we will be able to achieve that price same as 2017 did. In recovering that loss we had, everybody should develop a principle of not letting go of their bitcoin holdings and learning to be more patient in times of uncertainties. When there's an option to save more of those bitcoins, then go on and always stay calm and chill.
417  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Huge potential earnings in bitcoin, still not interesting for others on: June 22, 2018, 06:54:39 AM
For the people who are not interested in crypto,they hear a stereotype of crypto by government,they said that it used to illegal activities like money laundering and drugs.That's why people don't want to involve themselves to something troublesome.
Exactly.People always hear bitcoin as a scam and is used in some illegal activities so they tend to lost their interest somehow.And the fact that they are not knowledgeable about bitcoin,only depends on heresays,will make them more ignorant whats the truth about bitcoin and how it works knowing its still full of potentials.
Such news cannot effect the image of bitcoin too much. Actually not only bitcoin but all round every currency may be use for illegal activities, but these cannot stop people from using it, bitcoin has now become part of our daily life, and in every instant its important is increasing, therefore bitcoin popularity will continue increasing, and people will like to continue using bitcoin and do investment there.
In that case, I agree that bitcoin has become more prominent even though some were linked to illegal activities. But I don't believe that those using bitcoin for illegal activities wasn't subjected by authority sanctions on law. If those were victims of a person who scam people that's interested with bitcoin, then it means that many of them engaged with bitcoin in a wrong ways of handling their funds, entrusting it with strangers or swindlers.
418  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why gambling is portrayed negatively almost everywhere? on: June 21, 2018, 10:31:38 PM
Gambling is portrayed negatively because it can affect someone's life in a bad way like putting all your time in gambling instead of spending it with your family and you will also spend your hard earned money in gambling until you go broke. These characters are the effects when you get addicted in gambling.
I totally agree with you. Most of the gamblers lose almost everything in gambling and they do not think of their family future. They rein their lives and finally they go in debts. Other bad thing is that a gambler has no respect in society. These are the factors that gambling is treated negatively in the world and nobody is in favor of regular gambling.

This is one of the reasons that due to greed they do not even realize how amount they have being losing in the bets and still they will keep gambling looking at others they have won so sometime even they will won it. Thus few countries have this banned and do not encourage it.

That greed for more makes them gambling addict first and after that destroys their lives and force them to beg to fulfill their basic necessities of life. One solution which I have in my mind with which I think they can easily leave gambling for good is that to sit with the people who have tons of experiences in gambling because they will guide them better.

Hopefully it will guide the people for future improvements on their lives, and thinking that better results might change their bad habits. Why am I saying its a bad habit? Its because it involves the financial status which most of us needed to establish, specially when you're having a family to feed in order to live. That's how worst gambling was turning negative to most of the people everywhere, due to more families has been ruined by this gambling activities and being addicted is the most common reason.
419  Economy / Speculation / Re: Does bitcoin will double its value by the end of the year? on: June 21, 2018, 08:17:17 PM
Despite recent price woes, experts are predicting that Bitcoin will double in value by the end of the year.
https://www.newsbtc.com/2018/06/07/experts-predict-bitcoin-will-double-in-value-by-the-end-of-the-year/

Do you think this will happen? If this will happen I will invest most of my money in this bitcoin.
This is more likely to happen. But we don't really know because everyone thought bitcoin will get back on its track but it just went down again and people is starting to think bitcoin will fall for good. If you want to risk it then do it because bitcoin's rate is good in all about risks. But don't expect this year. It might go out next year for bitcoin because the rate right now is just so bad.

Bitcoin price has no limit, it could spike to highest price when demand will increase sophisticatedly and being a decentralized currency it will soar up higher. Doubling its value will always depends on how the people demanded fo it, and this year all I am hoping for was bitcoin will be leaving the bearish market. When it happens that bull run will come, I think the value will be double or tripled by the end of this year.
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