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981  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CFC2]Coffeecoin | MANDATORY UPDATE to Version 2.0.1 on: July 13, 2014, 03:15:12 PM
Oh man, I didn't make the deadline to swap my CFC1 into CFC2, crap ... is there any way now?

Are my CFC1 coins permanently decaffeinated now  ... forever?
982  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PoS+PoW] eXocoin [EXO]-gen 2.0- dev. from scratch! Give-Away | Open Beta on: July 10, 2014, 11:01:46 AM
Can you run eXo through TOR?
983  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: July 05, 2014, 01:20:52 PM
Please stop derailing this thread with childish fights and bashing on nxt. These won't take us nowhere.

Yeah OK...  like letting these TROLLS shit all over the thread will...   Roll Eyes

Are you sure it's not some prominent Nxt folks doing the bashing???   Undecided

Be civil always to everyone who posts and counter fud with reasoned arguments and facts. It takes discipline and emotional intelligence, but it is worth the effort.


Sometimes its better to lose a few people who really are NXT fans with no real desire for Qora to succeed.

Just stop abusing people, that's my point. Calling any dissenting voice a troll is incredibly immature, and it damages Qora. I like NXT, but I'm more invested in Qora now, and I just wish this community had a few reasonable voices to balance all the juvenile attack dogs. NXT has about 6-8 level headed guys who never resort to abuse, no matter what. Qora has so many high posting trash mouthed babies it's depressing.


So you got 1% yeah. Stakeholder?

No I bought in, and right now it feels like my worst play in crypto investing to date. I hope Qora dev lets his feeling be known. Qora supporters should behave professionally, or lurk.
984  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: July 05, 2014, 01:15:19 PM
I own 1% of Qora, and your behaviour in this thread is appalling, and I'm sick of you. You know nothing about business, and use this forum as a play thing when others take this coin seriously. That makes you one of the prime reasons my investment is doing badly. Abuse doesn't hide the truth from reasonable people.

Why don't you pledge some of your precious QORA for bounties like I have and STFU then...  you are siding with TROLLS that are shitting all over your investment since Day 1 and you have the nerve to ask me to counter fud with reasoned arguments and facts[/i]!?!?!   Shocked

That's exactly what I'm saying - counter fud with reasoned argument and facts, and under no circumstances resort to personal abuse. It makes you look like a thug, and that makes anything you say worth less to an impartial reader. If you don't understand this stuff then you should post a lot less in this thread. Qora is a serious coin, so act seriously. Stay cool and level headed.

Things did get better after gorillajam retired, but they're still bad IMO. Defend Qora all you want, but do it with facts and arguments, and leave the abuse and other antics out. This thread isn't for getting your ego off.
985  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: July 05, 2014, 01:06:55 PM
Please stop derailing this thread with childish fights and bashing on nxt. These won't take us nowhere.

Yeah OK...  like letting these TROLLS shit all over the thread will...   Roll Eyes

Are you sure it's not some prominent Nxt folks doing the bashing???   Undecided

Be civil always to everyone who posts and counter fud with reasoned arguments and facts. It takes discipline and emotional intelligence, but it is worth the effort.


Sometimes its better to lose a few people who really are NXT fans with no real desire for Qora to succeed.

Just stop abusing people, that's my point. Calling any dissenting voice a troll is incredibly immature, and it damages Qora. I like NXT, but I'm more invested in Qora now, and I just wish this community had a few reasonable voices to balance all the juvenile attack dogs. NXT has about 6-8 level headed guys who never resort to abuse, no matter what. Qora has so many high posting trash mouthed babies it's depressing.
986  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: July 05, 2014, 12:59:00 PM
Predictable, and very sad. At least the Kora guys are giving the Qora dev 1% stake in their coin. With guys like smaragda handicapping this thread Qora looks doomed.

Kora this...   Nxt that...   TROLL HARDER or GTFO!!!   Kiss

I own 1% of Qora, and your behaviour in this thread is appalling, and I'm sick of you. You know nothing about business, and use this forum as a play thing when others take this coin seriously. That makes you one of the prime reasons my investment is doing badly. Abuse doesn't hide the truth from reasonable people.
987  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: July 05, 2014, 12:53:33 PM
Please stop derailing this thread with childish fights and bashing on nxt. These won't take us nowhere.

Yeah OK...  like letting these TROLLS shit all over the thread will...   Roll Eyes

Are you sure it's not some prominent Nxt folks doing the bashing???   Undecided

Be civil always to everyone who posts and counter fud with reasoned arguments and facts. It takes discipline and emotional intelligence, but it is worth the effort.
988  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: July 05, 2014, 12:50:05 PM
I agree, Qora is dying, and this thread is a real turn off for possible investors. If you want to be taken seriously drop the juvenile abuse and ignore list crap.

Kora is looking better than Qora at the moment. Time to shape up or ship out!

Welcome to my Ignore List!   Grin

Predictable, and very sad. At least the Kora guys are giving the Qora dev 1% stake in their coin. With guys like smaragda handicapping this thread, Qora looks doomed.
989  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: July 05, 2014, 12:45:30 PM


The last pages are the reason why nobody is buying Qora. Guys like smaragda just suck.
Qora should transfer this thread in a moderated one, cause this will never stop.


I agree, Qora is dying, and this thread is a real turn off for possible investors. If you want to be taken seriously drop the juvenile abuse and ignore list crap.

Kora is looking better than Qora at the moment. Time to shape up or ship out!

edit: seriously close this thread and start a moderated one with rules
990  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MNT] MountCoin on: June 20, 2014, 07:13:23 AM
How can two versions of this blockchain exist at the same time? this 'new'  MountCoin & HorizonCoin (formerly MountCoin).

Aren't they the same thing? I had coins with the original MountCoin (dev presidentcoin) - which blockchain has those coins?

HorizonCoin doesn't exist, but MountCoin has new life and your coins are still valid. EldinHadizc/presidentcoin is gone and a new developer has stepped in and taken it over.
This is the new thread. Download the newest version 2.0.2 and you'll be good.

Cool, thanks for that info! MountCoin could be a good coin after all.

Maybe submit to https://cryptonote.org/coins.php once things are stable
991  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MNT] MountCoin on: June 20, 2014, 05:20:44 AM
How can two versions of this blockchain exist at the same time? this 'new'  MountCoin & HorizonCoin (formerly MountCoin).

Aren't they the same thing? I had coins with the original MountCoin (dev presidentcoin) - which blockchain has those coins?
992  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [MCN] MonetaVerde Exchange on: June 20, 2014, 03:19:30 AM
WTB MCN @ 0.000125 - (8k = 1bitcoin)
993  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: 【NTX】Trading thread| First Anon coin based NXT on: June 13, 2014, 03:35:09 AM
WTB 12 Million NTX. send PM with offers

WTB @ 30 satoshi, up to 30 Million NTX
994  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: 【NTX】Trading thread| First Anon coin based NXT on: June 12, 2014, 09:14:30 AM
WTB 12 Million NTX. send PM with offers
995  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FairCoin (FAC) - NEW DEVELOPMENT TEAM - Innovation - Promoting Equality - on: June 01, 2014, 03:16:57 AM
Why not add anonymity capabilities and take FAC to da moon?
996  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Kora::100% POS|Qora Clone|Free & Fair ~3k users|issued NXT AE asap on: May 23, 2014, 10:20:22 AM
I like this idea. Have you considered just using the NEM stakeholder list? You would have 3k users now if you did that!
997  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Qora trading thread and OTC xchg (bid 41 ask 45 last 42) escrow available on: May 20, 2014, 12:08:36 AM
WTB
35 / 60,000,000 Qora / 21 - you send first or escrow
998  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Trading Thread of Qora :: Second Generation Coin on: May 18, 2014, 09:08:23 AM

Correct, at first no one saw NXTs potential.
But this is not NXT. Currently Qora is not in a good state, it is fresh and barely functional. It has a lot of competition out there, which NXT didn't have.

Qora is now one amongst many second generation coins. It's running late and far behind, while NXT is speeding up as we speak.

And the reason NXT does so are people who bought in cheap early.

There is no mentionable activity from the IPO investors. The guys that run the show now joined in early for a good price. A lot of developers did so and they move the coin forward now.

And as for your statement that Qora was probably made by BCNEXT:

Don't go there. BCNEXT is far more math guy than coder. He is good with the logic, but the real NXT work came from Come-From-Beyond. That guy is a brilliant coder.
Qora is definitely not BCNEXT. Completly different style going on here.

So, having a ten fold return on the initial investment in the early days is necessary to get people on board. You will get more with time, nobody says you got to sell everything. The big return comes later íf the current holders sell part of their coins for only ten fold (haha... only Tongue ) return. Keep it high and this whole thing will collapse.

Exactly! So many key NXT people were not founders, but bought in early & cheap, and those guys made NXT great. Without attracting fresh blood Qora will get flattened by 3000 NEM warriors, hundreds of eXocoin miners and many more IPO stakeholders, then there's all the rest - mastercoin, Counterparty, etherium blah blah blah It's a doge eat doge world out there in crypto land, and Qora getting to a marketcap of 45 million is a long way off.

So what motivates the new guys to join this community? Developer bounties, no way, it's a cheap buy in price. I'm not a dev but I'll run a website and/or newsletter - who's gonna pay for that. Nobody should, I should do it to increase MY investment.

It;s nothing to do with 'fair' or scam accusations. It's about getting people to commit to Qora like wesley & jl777 and uniquorn ,opticalcharacter, anon136 etc etc etc etc etc.

When will the source code be released for peer review? You better have more than 137 by that date.
999  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Trading Thread of Qora :: Second Generation Coin on: May 18, 2014, 08:36:49 AM
+1

Righteous post! Remember the three D's

distribution
distribution
distribution

No need for a marketing fund yet, the best marketing right now is a decent price that doesn't make the founders look like greedy pricks.

1 bitcoin in the IPO got about 85 Million coins

85 Million @ 100 satoshi is 85 bitcoins - x85 return

Buyers market for sure

Can you discuss distribution and other stuff somewhere else? It's a trading post, not discussing post.

You want to buy — post you price and wait for offers. You don't want to buy — don't post anything.

sorry, trading is price related. just ignore if you don't like it Smiley
1000  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Trading Thread of Qora :: Second Generation Coin on: May 18, 2014, 08:35:44 AM

Of course the Qora IPO guys have been mentally processing the idea that maybe this is a repeat of NXT, and so you're all going to get rich. Well for that to happen you need ~1500 people to buy into Qora in the next 10-14 days.

I don't buy your logic here at all. You arbitrarily assume that if the qora community doesn't grow to 1500 in 10-14 day it will die on the vine?? Simply spurious. If you want to buy post your offer. Someone will sell.

Qora is not NXT. There are thousands of people aware of the possibilities and willing to pay more to get in. Why not assume the qora community will grow to 2000 in 2 weeks selling for 70-100 sat? Maybe it will!



I get his argument.

100 sat starting price gives the founders approx x85 return

For someone buying today @100, for a x10 return they need Qora  to get to a marketcap of 45 Million

45 Million is high for a new coin.

137 founders isn't enough community, so if buyers don't 'panic buy' some sellers will eventually drop their price.

25 sats would give the IPO investor a x20 return, so without a panic buy, that's where we're heading, that's an impressive return

makes sense. without a community of users you don't have a coin

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