This guy is from Germany. I asked him for Pick up. Several Post before. No answer.
This Guy seems to be a trickster...
You all guys have lost Money :/
First off you did not buy with escrow. you asked him here. Were are you from?
Maybe pickup?
Best Regards
Second I have all the purchase funds right here https://blockchain.info/address/1EZtz9gFMpXu7YkFCFgWUCw2SNDxVBfrBVthe amount at risk is here. https://blockchain.info/address/1Ep4UdBBaLNLJ7xdqQKHknYWrxgFkDAzYg0.0762788 BTC - 0.007 = 0.0692788 BTC which is about 267 usd. With this I ask coindiggers a very simple question when do we get the tracking numbers? Note to buyers: I have also matched the shipping funds sent and made a deposit to the escrow funds in the same amount . https://blockchain.info/tx/31afeb39b7cfc289025d1629e8e6b8fdf4e93ce374f314fd8a29dff49814655fSo if the deal dies and coindiggers runs out I will refund you the shipping fees. You will be fully protected for purchase fee and shipping fees. You will have to pay escrow fee and tx fee. Which is why you did the escrow fee to protect you. So your cost would only be the escrow fee paid in. Which is normal when a deal dies. Once again @ coindiggers the coins are in place if you are legit Once again @ buyers the coins are in place if the deal dies. so the only loser in a dead deal is me as I am paying the shipping from the escrow fees. I think most people here don't understand escrow is a tough job. Once escrow fee is paid it belongs to the escrow agent so it does not get refunded. I have options to lower it or reduce it to smooth out deals my primary duty is to protect the buyers first in this case but to also protect the seller. this was about a 18,000 dollar deal. 1.5 % = 270 in fees for me. which matches the shipping almost perfectly. Even though I mentioned to buyers more then one time they were at risk for shipping I won't leave them hanging. So their cost will be the escrow fees. Which is normal on dead deals or good deals. I will end up wasting a few hours and coindiggers would score 270 or so which would be my escrow fees. Of course coindiggers could simply give tracking and ship the gear which would be ideal. Seriously man, I don't envy you. Seems like a royal PITA. I'm glad folks like you are willing to do this but it sure ain't no "easy money"! |
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Seems like a pretty smart idea Scott. Have you done this before?
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$6,000.00 for a unit that makes $18.00 a day?!??!?! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Yeah sure, I'll take 100's LMAO!! |
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Wow, two days before my order was scheduled to ship... Bitmain confirmed my payment, marked my order as valid, fedex says it'll be arriving day after tomorrow.
Bitmain really came through! Amazing. Now if the product works as described when I get it, I'm happy.
I was trying to figure out if it's worth going through the old posts wishing death and destruction upon Bitmain and editing them, but wow there's a lot and they're really buried in these 100+ pages. So I'm going to leave them, figuring if someone cared enough to read those other posts, they'll find this one too and that will clarify.
Yeah, just like we told you, you whiny little bitch. Maybe now we won't have to watch you cry and whine like a pussy all over the forum. Douche bag. |
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eBay has scam list and scam buyer correct but they are one the best place to find out market price my inbox full of low baller included 5 L3+ for $6000 I just check nice hash for L3 $31.14 at kWh 10c mos place has much less price per kWh. it is $1200 a month 5 months ROI (for cheapper kWh this is faster ) why people are trying to say overpriced or wrong info here I already shipped 9 machines 3 of them already transcation ended with good feedback i m not typing here to sell those just trying clear up why people are paying those prices and please stop asking 5 L3+ for $6000 screenshot of nice hash L3+ income https://imgur.com/a/EQGqjlink for nicehash L3+ income https://www.nicehash.com/profitability-calculator/bitmain-antminer-l3The only thing I can guarantee you is, those numbers WILL GO DOWN. Stop using TODAY's profit to justify this garbage. The next batch of L3+ goes out tomorrow and so on and so on. You're taking advantage of stupid people. Just admit it and move on. Anyone paying over $2,000-$2500 for a L3+ is an idiot. I'm glad there are stupid people like this running around. They will be selling these units for pennies on the dollar in the near future. One man's poison is another's nectar. |
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lol. I think that guy think about long way in this scryt world.
look back 3 months ago about antminer s9. the profit is only $200 for a month but people still buy it and now look what happen. they have the fund back in 3 months and profit is $400/month now.
I think we can not do short way in this scryt world. Have to do long way, but for me order then wait and resell to make profit is best way to make money hahaha no greedy
I don't think comparing SHA 256 protocols to Scrypt and or X11 makes any sense. Neither volume nor depth of application of the latter two, even holds a candle to BTC. In short, it is much safer to bet on SHA 256 for future earnings than Scrypt or X11 etc etc. This is exactly the point. People are losing their minds and paying ridiculous multiples for these untested servers. If you buy the server at decent prices you can survive the downturns and be in it for "the long run". If you pay $6,000.00 for a Scrypt miner that will likely only make $250.00-$300.00 per month by Jan 2018, you're fucking sucking the south side of a north bound cow. |
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Ebay listings are not a good measure of price. Most listings are scams, most don't sell. Daily LTC profit TODAY = 21.00. That's 9-10 months to recoup hardware cost. That number is about to get worse. Another batch coming out tomorrow.
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Hello guys, I'm new in Litecoin... I've purchased 2 Antminer L3+ 504mhz and I already got them. I'd like to know in which pool I must put them... Hopefully you can help me, thank you.
Nicehash or Prohash. Use a switching pool. you will maximize your bottom line. |
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in hand sep 5 8 L3+ and 12 s9  and i still searching for a colo or rental basement etc ? prices are good but i dont want to sell Litecoin Difficulty today is 776k. At .08 Kw the L3+ produces $13.38 per day or $400.00 per month. I'm sure you will find some ignorant sucker to dump your machines on, but you better take the money and run. I predicted this very scenario back in June and everyone laughed or got all butthurt. Now it's reality. BTW, that's "today's" numbers. They are GAURANTEED to get worse. The last sheep are almost in the pen. The farmer is sharpening his knife. |
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 sold 2 for 8700  only 1 left guys. It's not hard to find idiots in the Crypto world. Whoever the genius that bought those is, it will take 10 months to pay each one off. That's at TODAY's returns. Those will no doubt worsen. Good for you man. Thank goodness for suckers huh? |
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Hey guys, I'm new to all this but have a D3 and an L3+ on the way. Can anyone tell me if running these two in a 12'x12' room without ventilation would cause the room to heat up beyond a sustainable temperature? The ambient room temperature is usually around 65 F since it's in the basement.
Dear God....this has to be a joke. |
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It seems like the days of scalping a L3+ for huge profits sort of hit a brick wall It makes sense though, Bitmain cranked them out like fidget spinners and now the daily return on one of these isn't that great. To be fair though OP, they're still going for around your asking price on e-bay. I'd try to knock it out before the next 10 batches are released and buyers start doing the math... The L3+ is paying lower than BTC per machine now. It's $13.83 cents per day right now and that's at .08 KW/h. Parties over for the big markups. |
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If you'd have accepted escrow from the start you probably would have sold them by now instead of waiting.
No escrow is a BIG turn-off for most members on here. You build your trust by using escrow, so people trust you.
After a bunch of items bought and sold with no issues and a high trade count/feedback you can ask for no escrow trust. That's how I did it.
Well I'm not refusing escrow, I'm just offering a nice discount to any buyer that would opt to not use it. That's your option, but then you might want to rethink your price. People on this forum know the prices and markets, they are also wary of all the scams and BS that goes on here un-regulated. Using escrow at a realistic price would be a plus for YOU, so you can sell the item quick. Upping the price way high just so you give a sense of security to a potential buyer and trying to give a 'deal' without escrow is a huge red-flag on here. It's a typical scam offer. Just trying to give you advice on here, don't take it in a negative manner, but you should learn from it. IF you have nothing to hide why not give the discount price with escrow? In all the time you already wasted not selling the product and making things complicated with and without escrow and discount, you are driving away people and wasting your own time. That's true. $4300 with escrow is the new flat price for these. Man I sure don't want to piss on your Cheerios but take a look at what's going on in Litecoin. These machines only make $13.83 a day now with .08 KW/h. That's over 10 months to pay off the hardware at your price. I wish you luck but Bitmain pulled the rug out on these guys with flooding the market with L3+'s. |
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Fuck man.....What L3+ Miner is this...... Worst.... Hardware..... Its Damage very fast..... My 1st Hashing board was stop working theni repair tickets and send it to Bitmain with DHL Courier, After this on my L3+ was running on 3 Hashing board, Its working fine and from 3 days i getting error in one hashing board, on today few Hours ago, HW error showing board, getting xxx on asic status. Like this -> oooooooo oooooooo oooooooo oooooooo oooooooo oooooooo oooooooo oooooooo ooooxxxx near by 1 week ago i sent my 1st hashing board to.... Bitmain warranty. And now another board getting Problem.  Hardware is not proper, bitmain sucks monkey, I pray for everyone L3+ miner should get any problems. Because Bitmain warranty, systems also not proper takes soo much time, over 1 months. I was in soo much tension, miner is only 20 days old, getting soo much problems, ROI not recovered, Guys if You want to invest money, You can think this all before buy...... Its luck by chance...  What were your chip temps? Chip temps usually run 5 degrees higher so that shouldn't have been the problem. Sorry to hear this man. That definitely sucks. My board temperature is 60 to 64 |
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Fuck man.....What L3+ Miner is this...... Worst.... Hardware..... Its Damage very fast..... My 1st Hashing board was stop working theni repair tickets and send it to Bitmain with DHL Courier, After this on my L3+ was running on 3 Hashing board, Its working fine and from 3 days i getting error in one hashing board, on today few Hours ago, HW error showing board, getting xxx on asic status. Like this -> oooooooo oooooooo oooooooo oooooooo oooooooo oooooooo oooooooo oooooooo ooooxxxx near by 1 week ago i sent my 1st hashing board to.... Bitmain warranty. And now another board getting Problem. Hardware is not proper, bitmain sucks monkey, I pray for everyone L3+ miner should get any problems. Because Bitmain warranty, systems also not proper takes soo much time, over 1 months. I was in soo much tension, miner is only 20 days old, getting soo much problems, ROI not recovered, Guys if You want to invest money, You can think this all before buy...... Its luck by chance... What were your chip temps? |
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Yes resale value is VERY VERY good. Mine before the next batch and ship it = max profit.
Well of course assuming you are in the early batches. Not true, even the later batches which technically is now are selling very well. The snippet you taken above was in reference to you saying your impression was that ASIC's resale values are very poor. Machines that are less than 50% the power of the l3+ are pulling over £2400+ at the moment and they are well over 1 year old. That is great news. Thanks. I pay very low KW/h so the older units are a great option for me. Sometimes you can find hobby miners that are dumping their servers because they can't make money at their rates. A friend of mine bought a truck load of S7's, (A pick-up truck ) for a song. $286.00 per unit. Smokin deal! |
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Yes resale value is VERY VERY good. Mine before the next batch and ship it = max profit.
Well of course assuming you are in the early batches. |
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Is it possible to run 4 x L3+ in the same room using 4 "different" outlets?
The question is not about outlets, but about circuits. Depending on where you live in the world, you have different power capabilities per circuit. In the US, a typical circuit is 110V @ 15A, or 1.6KW. Given that a single L3+ is rated at over 800W at the wall, trying to run 2 rigs on a single circuit is not recommended. First, determine what your wattage is at the outlet in question. Second, determine if that wattage is shared with anything else on the same circuit (a single circuit typically contains multiple outlets). Divide the available wattage available on that circuit by the rated wall wattage and round down. That will tell you how many rigs you can run on the circuit. I'm actually getting nervous now that some people are going to die in a house fire as a result of messing with these servers without knowledge.......I hope they read your post and take it seriously. The way things are designed, the breaker should simply trip long before any issue with fire arises. If you overload a circuit it will get hot, but long before it get's too hot (for a fire to occur) the breaker should trip and cut power to the affected circuit. It's one way to know if you have too many rigs on a circuit, if the breaker trips... I understand this but there is another devil in the details. These units run constantly and can heat older wires beyond limits. Those wires can and DO catch fire before tripping breakers. That obviously happens inside a wall where it will not be detected until it's too late. Many older structures have tired and stressed wiring. |
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The global supply for this batch seems so small. If you want to buy l3+, PM me.
I wouldn't even pay $2,280.00 for a unit that will not even ship until after many 1000's of others have shipped and slammed the network. If you want to sell it for what it's worth by December I'll buy it. That would be $1,272.00. PM me. People that are flocking to buy these for $2,280.00 are smoking crack. I don't understand where your overly dramatic difficulty predictions come from. Do you just say that to try and get a cheaper price on the miners? There's no way anyone is selling you their L3+ for $2280, let alone your ludicrous asking price of $1272. Look at the difficulty since the end of August when people started receiving and firing up their miners from the August/September batch that people had to pre-order back in June - which was a huge batch iirc. The difficulty didn't even double! There has only been one large batch since then, and two smaller ones. Worst - extremely worst - case scenario is that the difficult doubles from where it's at now, in which case mining with the L3+ would still be insanely profitable relative to any traditional sense of investing. Us miners are spoiled with insane ROI numbers. We shoot for 30% ROI per month when any other form of investment doesn't even see 30% per year. LTC difficulty is now at 633k. I know that you know that previous to this batch, 3 days ago, Bitmain sold 18k units. All you need to do is look at BTC and you can easily extrapolate the future scenario for Alt Coin mining. Sometime in the near future, you will make $300.00 p/machine per month. Just look at the types of people posting in here. They don't have the slightest clue what they are doing. I spent 30 years trading and constructing institutional hedge strategies in the financial markets for JP Morgan, Merril Lynch, Goldman Sachs, Credit Suisse etc etc. I have a little experience with this type of herd mentality. I was paid very large amounts of money to extract risk from these firm's portfolios. This is like any other business. When all the sheep come pouring in for the "easy money" it portends at least corrective changes. $1,272.00 ludicrous? That's what I paid for the batch I'm currently running. Not "ludicrous" at all. Last month I skipped the D3 batch that went for $2,595.00 and bought into the very next one for $1,600.00. It's all about cost. It's all about value and it's all about being rational. Paying $2,280.00 for the L3+ in the current dynamic, is none of those things. Lastly, this is a high risk business. There is MUCH more in play here than just those ROI calculators everyone relies so heavily on. In trading, we have a term called "edge". If you have the "edge", you can survive. If you give up the "edge" you are just meat for those that have it. Buying L3+ for $2,280.00 is absolutely giving up ANY edge. Just trying to help. Take it for what it's worth. Just help me understand, because for whatever reason I can't. You say you spent 30 years in the finance industry, but I don't understand how $300 profit/machine per month sometime in the near future is bad? $300 profit per month from a $2,280 investment is only just over a 7 month ROI, and that's your worst case scenario when you factor in the fact that you'll be able to get a lot of money back from selling your machines when you upgrade. $300 per month, worst case scenario. I don't at all understand how you would have to be smoking crack to invest in that! Especially if you believe in the future of cryptocurrency, who knows what the best case scenario could be! You come from the financial world, surely you know that a 7 month ROI in any traditional sense of investing is unheard of, no? I got my October batch for $1,650 each which of course now looks like a good deal compared to the $2,280, but if I wouldn't have gotten my hands on that batch, I would have easily spent $2,280 per machine for this recent batch. Of course all of this is under the assumption that this is the highest risk business that you could probably ever invest in, but I think the "edge" that we have against all of the risk we're taking is what the future of cryptocurrency could be, and where it could go. Everyone is different, but I will gladly accept all of the risks that come with investing in mining for the potential profits. I appreciate your opinion, especially if you have all of that experience in finance, I just don't believe you would have to be smoking crack like you say to spend a few hundred more dollars to get in on this, which only equates to another few weeks of ROI, in the worst case scenario. I look forward to hearing more of what you think on the topic, I'm just not buying into the doomsday scenario is all! I think the issue is that ROI calculations depend on speculation of future difficulty (and hence earnings) over time. While you may see $300/month right now, that could change tomorrow, or the next day, etc... There is no way to predict exact ROI, only estimate it. Most estimates I have seen include a percentage difficulty increase over time, as is done on the BitcoinWisdom site, but again that only applies to LTC and BTC, as they don't have other coin calculators. Keep in mind also that the ROI is also dependent on future estimate of coin value, which (while typically climbing of late) can vary up or down. This is the nature of RISK. It's cannot be accurately predicted, only estimated. Any decisions you make should be based on your assumption of RISK. That's true, but we're not seeing $300/mo right now. Right now, we're seeing over $800/mo. The difficulty could double and we'd still see more than $300/mo, and that worst case scenario is assuming the price of Bitcoin or Litecoin doesn't rise, which is unlikely. That worst case scenario also doesn't factor in the fact that you can sell your miners when you decide to upgrade for a decent amount of money. Like I said, I'm not buying into the doomsday scenario, I may be blind for say so, but it's just how I feel about crypto in general. Of course like you say this is the nature of risk, and we cannot accurately predict what will happen 3 months, 6 months, or 12 months from now. How I see it though, I will gladly accept all the potential risks associated for all the potential profits associated. I'm not seeing he value in an obsolete ASIC's unit. That is actually the major difference from the GPU. Application specific means more or less a one trick pony. Unless you find a buyer with free electricity and even then you'll not get much for them. My impression is they don't have much "resale" value. Is that wrong? |
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